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G0ATbe
04-24-2016, 08:16 PM
3 straight finals losing streak. Will be tied for longest losing streak in NBA history! (with Jerry West, Larry Foust, Elgin Baylor)

Hop on board boys! :rockon:

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Dray n Klay
04-24-2016, 08:16 PM
But it already happened..





Kobe 1.5* FMVPs in 7 Finals







0.5* split with Gasol for FMVP in 2010

3ball
04-24-2016, 08:31 PM
Cavs had no chance in 2015 Finals


The Cavs had a chance, but Lebron only shot 39% while allowing a 7 ppg role player (Iggy) to be > Curry.. Iggy averaged 17 ppg, so that's a 10 point swing.

But even WITH Lebron shooting 39% and allowing Iggy an extra 10 ppg, the Cavs were still competitive and won 2 games - clearly, if he holds Iggy to 7 ppg and shoots 50%, the Cavs win easily.






Not much Lebron could've done in 2007 Finals


Many guys played better against the same Spurs team:



Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



The reason for Lebron's worse efficiency was JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:



....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3




Everyone shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - the so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.






Cavs had no chance in 2007 Finals


Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.






Lebron had no chance in 2014 Finals


Not true - Lebron's defense was very good the first 2 games against Kawhi (9 ppg on 43%), and not surprisingly, the Heat were tied 1-1... They were competitive with the Spurs, just like OKC and Dallas were, who held Kawhi to 12 ppg on 45%.

But then Lebron gave up in Game 3, because he's weak with no perseverance - Kawhi proceeded to run roughshod the last 3 games for 24 ppg on 69% - this is the biggest reason the series changed - that's a 15 point swing.

Better defense on Kawhi would've kept the games closer, and the Heat could've WON the series if Lebron coupled his better defense on Kawhi with more offensive aggression - he only averaged 17 shot attempts, which was HALF his attempts in 2015 Finals that won 2 games with a worse supporting cast (the injured Cavs) against a better team (Warriors)..

Obviously, if Lebron plays good defense on Kawhi AND doubles his shot attempts to 33 per game like the 2015 Finals, the Heat would've won.

fourkicks44
04-24-2016, 08:35 PM
The Cavs had a chance, but Lebron only shot 39% while allowing a 7 ppg role player (Iggy) to be > Curry.. Iggy averaged 17 ppg, so that's a 10 point swing.

But even WITH Lebron shooting 39% and allowing Iggy an extra 10 ppg, the Cavs were still competitive and won 2 games - clearly, if he holds Iggy to 7 ppg and shoots 50%, the Cavs win easily.




Many guys played better against the same Spurs team:



Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



The reason for Lebron's worse efficiency was JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:



....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3




Everyone shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - the so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.




Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.




Not true - Lebron's defense was very good the first 2 games against Kawhi (9 ppg on 43%), and not surprisingly, the Heat were tied 1-1... They were competitive with the Spurs, just like OKC and Dallas were, who held Kawhi to 12 ppg on 45%.

But then Lebron gave up in Game 3, because he's weak with no perseverance - Kawhi proceeded to run roughshod the last 3 games for 24 ppg on 69% - this is the biggest reason the series changed - that's a 15 point swing.

Better defense on Kawhi would've kept the games closer, and the Heat could've WON the series if Lebron coupled his better defense on Kawhi with more offensive aggression - he only averaged 17 shot attempts, which was HALF his attempts in 2015 Finals that won 2 games with a worse supporting cast (the injured Cavs) against a better team (Warriors)..

Obviously, if Lebron plays good defense on Kawhi AND doubles his shot attempts to 33 per game like the 2015 Finals, the Heat would've won.

:oldlol: outta no where 3ball hits it outta the park.

Cocaine80s
04-24-2016, 08:35 PM
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This nikka done quoted my posts from a different thread :biggums:

Pushxx
04-24-2016, 10:14 PM
Shitshow of a thread. 3ball's appearance sealed it.

Gileraracer
04-25-2016, 05:56 AM
Greatest Looser of all time - GLOAT

sportjames23
04-25-2016, 06:08 AM
The Cavs had a chance, but Lebron only shot 39% while allowing a 7 ppg role player (Iggy) to be > Curry.. Iggy averaged 17 ppg, so that's a 10 point swing.

But even WITH Lebron shooting 39% and allowing Iggy an extra 10 ppg, the Cavs were still competitive and won 2 games - clearly, if he holds Iggy to 7 ppg and shoots 50%, the Cavs win easily.




Many guys played better against the same Spurs team:



Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



The reason for Lebron's worse efficiency was JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:



....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3




Everyone shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - the so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.




Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.




Not true - Lebron's defense was very good the first 2 games against Kawhi (9 ppg on 43%), and not surprisingly, the Heat were tied 1-1... They were competitive with the Spurs, just like OKC and Dallas were, who held Kawhi to 12 ppg on 45%.

But then Lebron gave up in Game 3, because he's weak with no perseverance - Kawhi proceeded to run roughshod the last 3 games for 24 ppg on 69% - this is the biggest reason the series changed - that's a 15 point swing.

Better defense on Kawhi would've kept the games closer, and the Heat could've WON the series if Lebron coupled his better defense on Kawhi with more offensive aggression - he only averaged 17 shot attempts, which was HALF his attempts in 2015 Finals that won 2 games with a worse supporting cast (the injured Cavs) against a better team (Warriors)..

Obviously, if Lebron plays good defense on Kawhi AND doubles his shot attempts to 33 per game like the 2015 Finals, the Heat would've won.


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Dr Hawk
04-25-2016, 06:51 AM
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

stalkerforlife
04-25-2016, 06:52 AM
The Cavs had a chance, but Lebron only shot 39% while allowing a 7 ppg role player (Iggy) to be > Curry.. Iggy averaged 17 ppg, so that's a 10 point swing.

But even WITH Lebron shooting 39% and allowing Iggy an extra 10 ppg, the Cavs were still competitive and won 2 games - clearly, if he holds Iggy to 7 ppg and shoots 50%, the Cavs win easily.




Many guys played better against the same Spurs team:



Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



The reason for Lebron's worse efficiency was JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:



....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3




Everyone shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - the so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.




Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.




Not true - Lebron's defense was very good the first 2 games against Kawhi (9 ppg on 43%), and not surprisingly, the Heat were tied 1-1... They were competitive with the Spurs, just like OKC and Dallas were, who held Kawhi to 12 ppg on 45%.

But then Lebron gave up in Game 3, because he's weak with no perseverance - Kawhi proceeded to run roughshod the last 3 games for 24 ppg on 69% - this is the biggest reason the series changed - that's a 15 point swing.

Better defense on Kawhi would've kept the games closer, and the Heat could've WON the series if Lebron coupled his better defense on Kawhi with more offensive aggression - he only averaged 17 shot attempts, which was HALF his attempts in 2015 Finals that won 2 games with a worse supporting cast (the injured Cavs) against a better team (Warriors)..

Obviously, if Lebron plays good defense on Kawhi AND doubles his shot attempts to 33 per game like the 2015 Finals, the Heat would've won.

https://media.giphy.com/media/QXfi9L4qA5HoI/giphy.gif

Smoke117
04-25-2016, 06:55 AM
Only on ISH is it a bad thing to go to the finals six straight times. (if the Cavs go this year which is very likely) :facepalm No wonder all the other boards think we're all idiots...

stalkerforlife
04-25-2016, 06:58 AM
Only on ISH is it a bad thing to go to the finals six straight times. (if the Cavs go this year which is very likely) :facepalm No wonder all the other boards think we're all idiots...

Why pretend that Bran hasn't colluded and absolutely eliminated even the possibility of any real competition in the east?

What do you get out of it?

Real14
04-25-2016, 07:03 AM
Why pretend that Bran hasn't colluded and absolutely eliminated even the possibility of any real competition in the east?

What do you get out of it?
His team having 2 asterisks with LeFawn.

stalkerforlife
04-25-2016, 07:07 AM
His team having 2 asterisks with LeFawn.

If he's even a real Heat fan.

3ball
04-25-2016, 07:13 AM
LeFawn... that's a good one

3ball
04-25-2016, 07:16 AM
Only on ISH is it a bad thing to go to the finals six straight times.


Who said it was a BAD thing?

But since Lebron defeated one third of the 50-win teams as Jordan and Kobe while making those Finals, it only makes sense to view his Finals appearances as less impressive than Jordan's and Kobe's.

It's pretty straightforward and obvious - his Finals appearances are less impressive than Jordan and Kobe's due to facing much worse competition

Real14
04-25-2016, 07:16 AM
LeFawn... that's a good one
Thanks my brother:cheers:

Real14
04-25-2016, 07:17 AM
If he's even a real Heat fan.
That's definitely true.

LBJFTW
04-25-2016, 09:04 AM
Greatest Looser of all time - GLOAT

It would be one thing if he was losing on a team that he had stuck with, but this perennial loser is losing through collusion!

WHAT

A

FAILURE

His stans as you will notice embody the same
principles:

"Fail at life and rely on others to solve your problems."

Both he and his stans stay losing while the rest of us that can actually comprehend life and the sport of basketball stay WINNIG!!:rockon: :cheers:

Showtime2001
04-25-2016, 09:48 AM
It would be one thing if he was losing on a team that he had stuck with, but this perennial loser is losing through collusion!

WHAT

A

FAILURE

His stans as you will notice embody the same
principles:

"Fail at life and rely on others to solve your problems."

Both he and his stans stay losing while the rest of us that can actually comprehend life and the sport of basketball stay WINNIG!!:rockon: :cheers:
:applause: :applause: :applause:

G0ATbe
05-30-2016, 11:27 PM
bump. This is going to be a slaughter:rockon:

PickernRoller
05-30-2016, 11:33 PM
Dem 3's raining down from everywhere....what will Lebron do if not shat his pants?

Tmuston Beltics
06-22-2016, 07:17 PM
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AirBonner
06-22-2016, 07:20 PM
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perfect gif for all kobetard threads :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

InsanityKills
06-22-2016, 07:21 PM
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:roll: :roll: :roll:

Megabox!
06-22-2016, 07:21 PM
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:applause: :lol

Megabox!
06-22-2016, 07:23 PM
It would be one thing if he was losing on a team that he had stuck with, but this perennial loser is losing through collusion!

WHAT

A

FAILURE

His stans as you will notice embody the same
principles:

"Fail at life and rely on others to solve your problems."

Both he and his stans stay losing while the rest of us that can actually comprehend life and the sport of basketball stay WINNIG!!:rockon: :cheers:
The cringe saga continues 🐸☕️