I hate to say it: the weakest NBA champions were

[Duderonomy]

The 2008 Boston Celtics

The 8th seed Hawks took them to 7 games.

A weaker Lebron lead crew took them to 7 games

Beat the Pistons in 6 games (the last conference finals appearance for them, bounces in first round the next season)

Beat the Lakers in 6. The Lakers were without Bynum (then their 3rd or 4th option) and blew a yughhhh game 4 lead. Not to mention Kobe had an injuried finger that post season he played through.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Kobe had an injuried finger that post season he played through.

I like how Kobe/Laker fans always bring up injuries, but ignore them for other teams/players.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I like how Kobe/Laker fans always bring up injuries, but ignore them for other teams/players.

OP is a Detroit fan, nice try though.

[AirBonner]

The 2008 Boston Celtics

The 8th seed Hawks took them to 7 games.

A weaker Lebron lead crew took them to 7 games

Beat the Pistons in 6 games (the last conference finals appearance for them, bounces in first round the next season)

Beat the Lakers in 6. The Lakers were without Bynum (then their 3rd or 4th option) and blew a yughhhh game 4 lead. Not to mention Kobe had an injuried finger that post season he played through.
Celtics had an injured Perkins in 2009. Two can play this game fgt.

[Smoke117]

The Celtics were pushed in those first two series because they didn't take the Hawks seriously and then Ray Allen was complete garbage in the Cavs series because he was distracted by his kid being ill. They were even better in 2009 and would have repeated if not for Big Kev going down with the knee. They had the best record in the league (in a season where the Lakers won 65 games) before he did go down.

[Nick Young]

If Bynum and Ariza are healthy, that "Big 3" Celtics team doesn't sniff a single title. It only went to 7 games in 2010 because Kobe and Bynum were both playing on one knee and Kobe had about 4 broken fingers.


The 08 Celtics are the most overrated NBA team in the modern era.

[Smoke117]

If Bynum and Ariza are healthy, that "Big 3" Celtics team doesn't sniff a single title. It only went to 7 games in 2010 because Kobe and Bynum were both playing on one knee and Kobe had about 4 broken fingers.

lol...the Celtics would destroyed the Lakers in 09 if not for Kevin Garnett hurting his knee. The Magic needed 7 games just to beat them without their best player.

[Bosnian Sajo]

^
No they wouldn't, for sure they wouldn't have "destroyed" the Lakers. They lost in 2010, just a year after, can you explain that?


Celtics had an injured Perkins in 2009. Two can play this game fgt.


PERKINS???? YOU WANNA BRING UP PERKINS??? :roll: :roll: :roll:



I didn't realize dude averaged a double double and was an allstar/all nba player, wow :facepalm

[Nick Young]

lol...the Celtics would destroyed the Lakers in 09 if not for Kevin Garnett hurting his knee. The Magic needed 7 games just to beat them without their best player.
Not with healthy Ariza. Celtics would have gotten raped.

Most overrated team in the modern NBA.

[Nick Young]

Celtics had an injured Perkins in 2009. Two can play this game fgt.
Healthy Bynum always shit on Perkins. Perkins was and is a Robert Sacre level scrub and always has been.

[Smoke117]

PERKINS???? YOU WANNA BRING UP PERKINS??? :roll: :roll: :roll:



I didn't realize dude averaged a double double and was an allstar/all nba player, wow :facepalm

Actually, Perkins was a big loss for them as they needed his rebounding. Lakers had that thug Bynum take him out for game 7.

[AirBonner]

^
No they wouldn't, for sure they wouldn't have "destroyed" the Lakers. They lost in 2010, just a year after, can you explain that?




PERKINS???? YOU WANNA BRING UP PERKINS??? :roll: :roll: :roll:



I didn't realize dude averaged a double double and was an allstar/all nba player, wow :facepalm
Anyone who actually watched the games knew that he brought good defense.

[Uncle Drew]

PERKINS???? YOU WANNA BRING UP PERKINS??? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Perkins was actually decent and valuable in those years.

Hold this L.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Actually, Perkins was a big loss for them as they needed his rebounding. Lakers had that thug Bynum take him out for game 7.


Kendrick Perkins should of been the finals mvp in 2008 in that case, he's what pushes them over the hump and made them a championship team.



He had 1 game with at least 10 rebounds, the rest were all below 7 rebounds. 0 blocks in the entire series, only 2 games where he scored more than 7 points. What a beast :bowdown:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Anyone who actually watched the games knew that he brought good defense.


Ohhh yes, his defense!! All 0 blocks and the 1 steal he had in game 1 of the series, how could I forget!



Rasheed Wallace filled in just fine for him, please stop acting like Perkins being out for game 7 changed the outcome of the series.


Andrew Bynum had 2 points in game 7, Perkins historic defense was not needed.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Ohhh yes, his defense!! All 0 blocks and the 1 steal he had in game 1 of the series, how could I forget!

You're really only judging defense on blocks and steals? You can't be serious, can you?

:wtf:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Perkins was actually decent and valuable in those years.

Hold this L.


Oh, ABSOLUTELY. He really proved that once he moved to OKC, right? Or is that the exact moment when he stopped being valuable? You know, cause KG wasn't his front court partner anymore?



I'll praise Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG all day for being great Celtics players and bringing it to my Lakers, one of the best NBA series I've witnessed and am thankful to have had my own taste of LA vs. Boston blood.


But to even begin arguing that the Celtics would have WON THE SERIES only had Perkins been in the game? Get the **** out my face, dude is on the same level of greatness as Joel Anthony.

[Bosnian Sajo]

You're really only judging defense on blocks and steals? You can't be serious, can you?

:wtf:

Gasol shot 38% and Bynum shot 20% in game 7 even though the defensive juggernaut Perkins was MIA.


Explain how that is possible, and what Perkins would have added to that.


Give me some vids of this great Kendrick Perkins defense. NOT KG vids mind you, I wanna see the great Kendrick Perkins.

[Smoke117]

Kendrick Perkins should of been the finals mvp in 2008 in that case, he's what pushes them over the hump and made them a championship team.



He had 1 game with at least 10 rebounds, the rest were all below 7 rebounds. 0 blocks in the entire series, only 2 games where he scored more than 7 points. What a beast :bowdown:

It's not just about the rebounds he grabbed, but him just being there and boxing out too.

[Bosnian Sajo]

It's not just about the rebounds he grabbed, but him just being there and boxing out too.

aha


Actually, Perkins was a big loss for them as they needed his rebounding. Lakers had that thug Bynum take him out for game 7.


Let's just not count this Lakers championship, add it to the Celtics record. Perkins most definitely should be named new FMVP, bringing Kobe's count to 1 fmvp and 4 championships.


Good debate, guys. Learned a lot, I didn't realize at the time that I was watching the wrong series.

[Uncle Drew]

Oh, ABSOLUTELY. He really proved that once he moved to OKC, right? Or is that the exact moment when he stopped being valuable? You know, cause KG wasn't his front court partner anymore?



I'll praise Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG all day for being great Celtics players and bringing it to my Lakers, one of the best NBA series I've witnessed and am thankful to have had my own taste of LA vs. Boston blood.


But to even begin arguing that the Celtics would have WON THE SERIES only had Perkins been in the game? Get the **** out my face, dude is on the same level of greatness as Joel Anthony.
Those years.

Can you read?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Those years.

Can you read?

Literally only 6 months separates this finals series we are discussing and the Perkins trade.

Can you think?

[Bosnian Sajo]

A decline can appear real quick.

Look at Kobe for instance.


Now he's comparing 25 year old (at the time) Perkins to Kobe :lol




Insidehoops.

[Uncle Drew]

Now he's comparing 25 year old (at the time) Perkins to Kobe :lol




Insidehoops.
I'm not comparing anyone.

I'm giving you an example of a quick decline.

[AirBonner]

Literally only half a year separates this finals series we are discussing and the Perkins trade.

Can you think?
they won in 2008. He was traded in 2011 after he had a tore knee ligament. stfu.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I'm not comparing anyone.

I'm giving you an example of a quick decline.

Am I your English teacher now, as well? Do I need to define what a comparison is?


The act of looking at things to see how they are similar or different.

The act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category.


You guys are a bunch of ****ing idiots, straight up. "I'm not comparing bro"

[Uncle Drew]

they won in 2008. He was traded in 2011 after he had a tore knee ligament. stfu.
He even had to undergo surgery.

But that doesn't count, because agenda.

[Bosnian Sajo]

He even had to undergo surgery.

But that doesn't count, because agenda.

Bynum had like 3 knee injuries and multiple surgeries before his career ever really got going, after all those surgeries he had his best season in 2012 averaging 19/12. All it took to off Perk was 1 surgery?


You hear that, Drose? Livingston? Blake Griffin? 1 knee surgery and you are OUT.


Perk had the great opportunity to play with the big 3, which definitely made him look better than he was. There is a reason why this dude is a laughing stock now, setting screens on ghosts.

[thefatmiral]

Thought you were gonna say 2013 heat

[Uncle Drew]

Bynum had like 3 knee injuries and multiple surgeries before his career ever really got going, after all those surgeries he had his best season in 2012 averaging 19/12. All it took to off Perk was 1 surgery?


You hear that, Drose? Livingston? Blake Griffin? 1 knee surgery and you are OUT.
Yes, because the outcome and severity of and every knee surgery ever is the exact same.

Dear Lord, that logic. :bowdown:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Yes, because the outcome and severity of and every knee surgery ever is the exact same.

Dear Lord, that logic. :bowdown:

The guys I mentioned all had worse knee injuries, especially Livingston. The guys I mentioned had MULTIPLE surgeries.


Perk most of really ****ED his knee up to completely change the direction of his career like that. He was out for what, 5 months? Damn, I can't even compare Rose/Griff who were out a year each or Livingston who missed 2 years.


Wanna keep losing this argument? Or just stop posting, your call.

[Uncle Drew]

The guys I mentioned all had worse knee injuries, especially Livingston. The guys I mentioned had MULTIPLE surgeries.


Perk most of really ****ED his knee up to completely change the direction of his career like that. He was out for what, 5 months? Damn, I can't even compare Rose/Griff who were out a year each or Livingston who missed 2 years.
Doesn't matter. You could undergo knee surgery, rehab for one week and still come off worse. Do you know how recovery from surgery works? Hint: it isn't the same for everyone.

[AirBonner]

The guys I mentioned all had worse knee injuries, especially Livingston. The guys I mentioned had MULTIPLE surgeries.


Perk most of really ****ED his knee up to completely change the direction of his career like that. He was out for what, 5 months? Damn, I can't even compare Rose/Griff who were out a year each or Livingston who missed 2 years.


Wanna keep losing this argument? Or just stop posting, your call.
How about you come back with a valid argument then we can all talk.

[Uncle Drew]

How about you come back with a valid argument then we can all talk.
Man just said surgery is the same for everyone.

[Bosnian Sajo]

How about you come back with a valid argument then we can all talk.

Why are you acting like I was responding to you? Are you and uncle drew the same person?

[AirBonner]

Man just said surgery is the same for everyone.
This guy must be around the Operating Room and Rehab centers all the time to know what he is talking about :lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

Man just said surgery is the same for everyone.


Where did I say that? Quote me.

[Uncle Drew]

Where did I say that? Quote me.

Bynum had like 3 knee injuries and multiple surgeries before his career ever really got going, after all those surgeries he had his best season in 2012 averaging 19/12. All it took to off Perk was 1 surgery?


You hear that, Drose? Livingston? Blake Griffin? 1 knee surgery and you are OUT.

Now jet from this thread.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Now jet from this thread.


Nowhere in that quote did I even hint that all surgeries are the same though...

[Uncle Drew]

Nowhere in that quote did I even hint that all surgeries are the same though...
You compared Perkins' to others. Am I your English teacher now?

[Bosnian Sajo]

You compared Perkins' to others. Am I your English teacher now?


Comparing something isn't saying ALL situations are the same................



I taught you earlier what compare means. The act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category. both had knee surgeries.....so it is comparable....didn't say it was the same, your dumbass said that.

[Uncle Drew]

Comparing something isn't saying ALL situations are the same................



I taught you earlier what compare means. The act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category.
Just adding another twist, just to make it fit in your agenda.

We're done here.

[Bosnian Sajo]

We've been done lmao, suck my dick. The second you mentioned Perk as the reason why the Celtics didn't win the argument was over and the L was handed over to you.

[AirBonner]

Comparing something isn't saying ALL situations are the same................



I taught you earlier what compare means. The act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category.
You were using the COMPARISON to support your ARGUMENT. Seeing how the SITUATIONS are different you have no LEG to stand on.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Airbonner = http://bitethebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/4slika.jpg



You're a lucky guy, uncle drew :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

We've been done lmao, suck my dick. The second you mentioned Perk as the reason why the Celtics didn't win the argument was over and the L was handed over to you.
Meltdown.

[AirBonner]

Airbonner = http://bitethebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/4slika.jpg



You're a lucky guy, uncle drew :applause:
Finally a decent post. Nice view :cheers:

[EllEffEll]

Although it always tastes of fecal matter for me to even utter 'Boston Celtics', I'm just going to say it; they were easily the best team in the league in 2008. They deserved to win that title.

Even though the Lakers played well enough to make it to the finals that year, I still feel like they were mentally not ready to win it all. It took being embarrassed in 2008 to instill the mental toughness necessary for them to persevere in 2009 and 2010.

Crying about injuries is for p*****s. Right up there with crying about the referees. It's part of the game. Put your big boy pants on and battle until you can battle no more. Let the 'chips' fall where they may.

[Wally450]

Although it always tastes of fecal matter for me to even utter 'Boston Celtics', I'm just going to say it; they were easily the best team in the league in 2008. They deserved to win that title.

Even though the Lakers played well enough to make it to the finals that year, I still feel like they were mentally not ready to win it all. It took being embarrassed in 2008 to instill the mental toughness necessary for them to persevere in 2009 and 2010.

Crying about injuries is for p*****s. Right up there with crying about the referees. It's part of the game. Put your big boy pants on and battle until you can battle no more. Let the 'chips' fall where they may.

Respect. :applause:

[keep-itreal]

That Celtics team was awesome to watch. Could've 3peat if KG didn't go down in 09 and Perkins didn't get injured in 10

[MiseryCityTexas]

The 2008 Boston Celtics

The 8th seed Hawks took them to 7 games.

A weaker Lebron lead crew took them to 7 games

Beat the Pistons in 6 games (the last conference finals appearance for them, bounces in first round the next season)

Beat the Lakers in 6. The Lakers were without Bynum (then their 3rd or 4th option) and blew a yughhhh game 4 lead. Not to mention Kobe had an injuried finger that post season he played through.

Lol I remember when Zaza Pachulia checked the shit out of KG in that one
play-off game.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Healthy Bynum always shit on Perkins. Perkins was and is a Robert Sacre level scrub and always has been.


Perkins was a solid role playing center in the late 2000s.

[Real14]

2012 Heat are definitely top 5.

[I know you are]

2009 and 2010 Lakers. 2009 Lakers got by Houston simply because of Yao's injury, then matched up against the Magic who got to pass by an imploding Cavs and an injured Celtics. Duncan was not himself and Spurs were looking done out west, while the Suns had unraveled. The Hornets were sadly one of the best west teams that year. Lakers were the only contender with prime players that weren't injured. 2010 Lakers were not much different.

[Real14]

2009 and 2010 Lakers. 2009 Lakers got by Houston simply because of Yao's injury, then matched up against the Magic who got to pass by an imploding Cavs and an injured Celtics. Duncan was not himself and Spurs were looking done out west, while the Suns had unraveled. The Hornets were sadly one of the best west teams that year. Lakers were the only contender with prime players that weren't injured. 2010 Lakers were not much different.
:facepalm

[Derka]

Although it always tastes of fecal matter for me to even utter 'Boston Celtics', I'm just going to say it; they were easily the best team in the league in 2008. They deserved to win that title.

Even though the Lakers played well enough to make it to the finals that year, I still feel like they were mentally not ready to win it all. It took being embarrassed in 2008 to instill the mental toughness necessary for them to persevere in 2009 and 2010.

Crying about injuries is for p*****s. Right up there with crying about the referees. It's part of the game. Put your big boy pants on and battle until you can battle no more. Let the 'chips' fall where they may.
Would rep if I could. :cheers:

[JBSptfn]

The 00-02 Lakers have to be in this discussion. They dominated a flawed league. They benefited from chokers in the Blazers and Kings, the East was very weak, and they only had two players and a collection of stiffs.

When SA had their 2002-03 re-boot, and when they ran into the 313 in the 2004 finals, their little run was over.

[AirBonner]

2009 lakers had a the easiest path ever to a championship. Right up there is golden state last year

[Real14]

2009 lakers had a the easiest path ever to a championship. Right up there is golden state last year
Just stop. Please just stop.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Crying about injuries is for p*****s. Right up there with crying about the referees. It's part of the game. Put your big boy pants on and battle until you can battle no more. Let the 'chips' fall where they may.


Some Celtics fans just stay salty about that 2010 loss, even though we as Lakers fans give credit to Boston for their 2008 win.

[AirBonner]

Some Celtics fans just stay salty about that 2010 loss, even though we as Lakers fans give credit to Boston for their 2008 win.
You are a troll not a fan.

[Derka]

Some Celtics fans just stay salty about that 2010 loss, even though we as Lakers fans give credit to Boston for their 2008 win.
Not around here we don't and I say that with absolute certainty. We're salty about the loss because who the hell wouldn't be salty about losing a title when you're 12 minutes away from one?? But no one here thinks we deserved to win it that year. No one. Not one real Celtic fan on this board. That was an epic chokejob and Celtics had no one to blame but themselves for it and we've pretty much accepted that.

Kobe haters, not Celtics fans, are the only ones I've seen come in here spouting off nonsense about officiating in game 7 because that's what they do...hate on everything Kobe does.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Not around here we don't and I say that with absolute certainty. We're salty about the loss because who the hell wouldn't be salty about losing a title when you're 12 minutes away from one?? But no one here thinks we deserved to win it that year. No one. Not one real Celtic fan on this board. That was an epic chokejob and Celtics had no one to blame but themselves for it and we've pretty much accepted that.

Kobe haters, not Celtics fans, are the only ones I've seen come in here spouting off nonsense about officiating in game 7 because that's what they do...hate on everything Kobe does.


Bro, quit typing all that out and read earlier posts in this thread. Your fellow Celtics fans were saying that if Perkins was healthy in 2010, the Lakers stood no chance. Your boys said the same thing for KG in 09, that the Lakers would of lost.

Idk if drew is a Celtics fan or not but boner over here has Stevens and a Celtics logo as his avy.

Thanks for keeping it real though :cheers:

[Legends66NBA7]

From this century forward or post MJ era, 2004 Pistons or 2006 Heat were probably weaker.

[Bandito]

2011 Mavericks


They just benefitted from Lebron frozen corpse.