Kyrie Irving 110 - 91 Lebron James

[coined]

Final score of the series. Lebron overrated

[Fudge]

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[inclinerator]

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[Dray n Klay]

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[Im Still Ballin]

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[navy]

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Fudge with another one. :roll:

[Bankaii]

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[Cocaine80s]

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[warriorfan]

LeSecond Option

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LeSecond Option

Kyrie stepped up in a MAJOR WAY. Dude put the team on his back from the beginning of this series. Hopefully he can keep it up and gets the touches that he deserves to maintain this production.

Dude is phenomenal to watch.

[Bankaii]

LeSecond Option
The Warriors are essentially winning this series without Curry.
2nd option>0 option

[Stringer Bell]

Great series from Irving.

[francesco totti]

Kyrie been the top scorer, but Lebron was the best player in the series. Factoring in defence, playmaking, making your teammates better..


Irving: 27.5 ppg 47.1 %shooting, 4.8 assist per game, 2.3 rebound per game, 1.3 steal per game , 0.3 block per game. . When on court entire series +6.

Lebron: 22.8 ppg, 48.7 % shooting, 9.0 rebound per game, 6.8 assist per game, 1.8 steal per game, 0.8 block per game. When on court entire series +50 .

Love: 18.8 ppg, 41 % shooting, 12 rebound per game, 1.8 assist per game, 0.5 steal per game, no blocks.. when on court entire series +17.

[3ball]

Love shooting 41%... hmmm

[3ball]

Great series from Irving.
he's always had a prime time player mentality

he'd never shy away from the spotlight

[3ball]

Kyrie been the top scorer, but Lebron was the best player in the series.


It's a sad state of affairs when the Cavs' best chemistry is with Lebron NOT scoring the most.

Lebron is playing off-ball a lot more now, which has helped the Cavs' chemistry - but he simply isn't a good enough off-ball player to achieve his previous scoring production while playing off-ball.. Eventually, the series will get tougher and Lebron will resort to ball-domination again, which will cause his team's chemistry and brand of basketball to go down the toobers

Otoh, Jordan was a phenomenal off-ball player, so he averaged 40 ppg in many playoff series - he didn't need to dominate the ball to achieve great stats, so his team's chemistry was never in danger.. And consider this: no all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers - except Jordan, who led the Bulls in scoring BY AT LEAST 10 PPG for every playoff series.. Let that sink in - Jordan was on another level.

In addition to leading his team in scoring by goat margins, Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49) AND was the best defender ever at his position.. That's the biggest load of any player ever..
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[plowking]

It's a sad state of affairs when the Cavs' best chemistry is with Lebron NOT scoring the most.

Lebron is playing off-ball a lot more now, which has helped the Cavs' chemistry - but he simply isn't a good enough off-ball player to achieve his previous scoring production while playing off-ball.. Eventually, the series will get tougher and Lebron will resort to ball-domination again, which will cause his team's chemistry and brand of basketball to go down the toobers


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This here, is quite literally the perfect contradiction. You're so into your own bullshit, you still probably can't see it. You have 100% contradicted yourself in the same damn paragraph. :oldlol:

[SexSymbol]

This here, is quite literally the perfect contradiction. You're so into your own bullshit, you still probably can't see it. You have 100% contradicted yourself in the same damn paragraph. :oldlol:
how did he contradict himself?

[3ball]

This here, is quite literally the perfect contradiction. You're so into your own bullshit, you still probably can't see it. You have 100% contradicted yourself in the same damn paragraph.


Nah, I didn't contradict shit - your reading comprehension and understanding of the game is just piss poor

[plowking]

Nah, I didn't contradict shit - your reading comprehension and understanding of the game is just piss poor

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[3ball]

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You can't explain how I contradicted myself

All you can do is be passive aggressive to avoid any debate on your point..
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[SexSymbol]

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he really didn't contradict himself, read it again.
You're just making yourself look worse

[plowking]

he really didn't contradict himself, read it again.
You're just making yourself look worse

He says winning was achieved by doing something, but when doing that something against a harder team and it results in winning then it will not be done. :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

He says winning was achieved by doing something, but when doing that something against a harder team and it results in winning then it will not be done. :oldlol:


Dude is not smart.

[3ball]

He says winning was achieved by doing something, but when doing that something against a harder team and it results in winning then it will not be done. :oldlol:
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[SexSymbol]

He says winning was achieved by doing something, but when doing that something against a harder team and it results in winning then it will not be done. :oldlol:
so he's saying that a certain tactic can work against a lesser team but can fail against a better team?
Man, what a contradiction.

[plowking]

so he's saying that a certain tactic can work against a lesser team but can fail against a better team?
Man, what a contradiction.

So his entire tirade against Bron is a contradiction then. :oldlol:

Apparently Bron has the best team and best teammates, and way more help than Jordan.

[3ball]

So his entire tirade against Bron is a contradiction then. :oldlol:

Apparently Bron has the best team and best teammates, and way more help than Jordan.
Still can't get specific eh?

You speak in vague to avoid being proven wrong.. It's soooper weak

[Gileraracer]

wow most stacked team in over a decade of bball for sure

[GimmeThat]

so when Irving starts scoring less while Lebron scores a bit more and grabs a few additional rebounds as Love's FG% go up, it will be LeBron who's making his teammates worse

[GimmeThat]

Eventually, the series will get tougher and Lebron will resort to ball-domination again, which will cause his team's chemistry and brand of basketball to go down the toobers


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how many practices prior to games where Lebron will have to remind his teammates to be sharp on making 3 point shots. determines how many 45+ 10+ assist games he will be having.

This is a post that fits the thread.

[stalkerforlife]

I actually kind of think Irving has a little Kobe in him...he may not relinquish taking over games late.

Time will tell, but I can see this dude Kyrie telling Bran to get the phuck out of the way.

[3ball]

The Cavs don't have optimal chemistry with Lebron being the top scorer because the only way he can be the top scorer is to dominate the ball.. Currently, the Cavs are finding better chemistry with Lebron playing off-ball, but he isn't a good enough off-ball player to be the top scorer in that capacity.

So will he sustain his off-ball play throughout the playoffs??.. Or will he eventually resort to ball-domination again, thus tanking the team's chemistry and devolving the team into an unsophisticated style of play?.. My guess is that when the going gets tough, he will resort to ball-domination and doom his team's chances against the better teams.. Otoh, if he DOES sustain his off-ball play, then he won't be as productive, and won't get credit for carrying the same load as past greats.. Basically, he's ****ed either way.

Otoh, Jordan didn't need to dominate the ball to achieve great stats, so his team's chemistry was never in danger - he was a phenomenal off-ball player and averaged 40 ppg in many playoff series.. And consider this: no all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers - except Jordan, who led the Bulls in scoring BY AT LEAST 10 PPG for every playoff series.. Let that sink in - Jordan was on another level.

In addition to leading his team in scoring by goat margins, Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49) AND was the best defender ever at his position.. That's the biggest load of any player ever..

[Real14]

he's always had a prime time player mentality

he'd never shy away from the spotlight
LeEther:applause:

[GimmeThat]

My guess is that when the going gets tough, he will resort to ball-domination and doom his team's chances against the better teams..

his teammates can pass

[PP34Deuce]

The Cavs don't have optimal chemistry with Lebron being the top scorer because the only way he can be the top scorer is to dominate the ball.. Currently, the Cavs are finding better chemistry with Lebron playing off-ball, but he isn't a good enough off-ball player to be the top scorer in that capacity.

So will he sustain his off-ball play throughout the playoffs??.. Or will he eventually resort to ball-domination again, thus tanking the team's chemistry and devolving the team into an unsophisticated style of play?.. My guess is that when the going gets tough, he will resort to ball-domination and doom his team's chances against the better teams.. Otoh, if he DOES sustain his off-ball play, then he won't be as productive, and won't get credit for carrying the same load as past greats.. Basically, he's ****ed either way.

Otoh, Jordan didn't need to dominate the ball to achieve great stats, so his team's chemistry was never in danger - he was a phenomenal off-ball player and averaged 40 ppg in many playoff series.. And consider this: no all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers - except Jordan, who led the Bulls in scoring BY AT LEAST 10 PPG for every playoff series.. Let that sink in - Jordan was on another level.

In addition to leading his team in scoring by goat margins, Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49) AND was the best defender ever at his position.. That's the biggest load of any player ever..

I think its a mighty compliment of you to even use comparison stats with Lebron and Jordan. Speaks volumes to the deep down respect you have for Lebron James. No one would throw this many stats to bring a player down if they didn't secretly like, fear, or respect said player. I don't think you can compare Jordan and Lebrons off ball. Jordan was 6'6 215 slithering off people while Lebron is 6'8 260 power player setting picks(great picks) and rolling to the basket. He may be dared to shoot outside but defenders still collapse and respect in the paint. TNT showed a couple of plays where he literally 3 guys in the paint taking away his shot but then he was able find the open man and it resulted in a 3.

I think this Lebron is different in that he knows he can't win championships on his own against teams out West. I've seen Kyrie call for the ball and Lebron pass it to him. Lebrons impact is huge in the game without being the leading scorer. He just wants to win. I believe Lebron Ball will not come back unless someone gets injured.

Jordan was a scorer with that mentality. Lebron has been a guy scoring 25-30 PPG taking less shots. For a guy that doesn't look to score, he's that talented in doing it. We could do what if's and say he's in a free space era, but if he were in the physical era, he's still 6'8 260 and more athletic than 90% of those older players. Lebron is era proof just like Jordan.

[Showtime2001]

Cavs are stacked no excuses.

[TemporaMutantur]

Can we just appreciate the fact that the big 3 are actually playing well collectively and independently? Let's see if they can keep it up. But Irving looks awesome. Guess he brushed his ex girlfriend's remnants off his shoulder.