LeBron's 2007 Finals...

[stalkerforlife]

35%, 20%, 69%. 27 assists, 23 turnovers.

Swept.

Absolutely the worst finals I have ever witnessed from a competitive standpoint and an individual standpoint.

After that finals, and the colluding to form multiple super teams by leaving his own team, it'll be hard to ever recognize him as a top 10 GOAT.

[RRR3]

Prime Kobe finals numbers

[stalkerforlife]

Prime Kobe finals numbers

No.

[Lebronxrings]

right because everyone expected him to beat an all time great spurs team with a d league supporting cast. :rolleyes:

[RRR3]

Meltdown.

[SouBeachTalents]

He deserves a lot more criticism for 2011 imo. And Kobe's '04 Finals were basically just as bad

[Bankaii]

Your idol put up worse stats in 2 different finals.
Even worse is that Shaq still won the series in spite of Kobe shitting the bed.

[stalkerforlife]

right because everyone expected him to beat an all time great spurs team with a d league supporting cast. :rolleyes:

Cue the excuses. Branvestites live by them.

He didn't have to win the series...but losing 0-4 while playing that bad is inexcusable.

Continue on.

[stalkerforlife]

Your idol put up worse stats in 2 different finals.
Even worse is that Shaq still won the series in spite of Kobe shitting the bed.

No.

Kobe was deliberately injured by Jalen Rose in 2000.

Other than that, Kobe's never had a worse finals.

And you can't have a worse series when you win.

[stalkerforlife]

He deserves a lot more criticism for 2011 imo. And Kobe's '04 Finals were basically just as bad

But they weren't.

He shot better, had less turnovers, and actually won a game against an all time great team.

[r15mohd]

35%, 20%, 69%. 27 assists, 23 turnovers.

Swept.

Absolutely the worst finals I have ever witnessed from a competitive standpoint and an individual standpoint.

After that finals, and the colluding to form multiple super teams by leaving his own team, it'll be hard to ever recognize him as a top 10 GOAT.


expecting you to recognize anything has, and will always be, a hopeless case :rolleyes:

http://www.troll.me/images/crazy-eyes/crazy-eyes.jpg

[Lebronxrings]

Cue the excuses. Branvestites live by them.

He didn't have to win the series...but losing 0-4 while playing that bad is inexcusable.

Continue on.
no other player in history would have won a game with lockdown defense on them and a shitty team you fcking imbecile.

[RRR3]

OP wakes up every morning, realizes LeBron is far better than his loverboy Kobe is, and starts throwing his daily tantrum. He then attempts to make himself feel better by making a retarded thread on ISH.



wash, rinse, repeat

[stalkerforlife]

expecting you to recognize anything has, and will always be, a hopeless case :rolleyes:

http://www.troll.me/images/crazy-eyes/crazy-eyes.jpg

"Bran's failures don't count because I say so."

[Dray n Klay]

Justin's 2007 battery charge....

[Bankaii]

No.

Kobe was deliberately injured by Jalen Rose in 2000.

Other than that, Kobe's never had a worse finals.

And you can't have a worse series when you win.
He was injured yet played 30 minutes for the series and continued to chuck up bricks?
Kobe was just shit, cut the excuses. He put up 14 points on 46% before he got hurt and the lakers still won by 17.

And 2004 was just as shit.

Your last statement shows just how stupid you are

[RRR3]

He was injured yet played 30 minutes for the series and continued to chuck up bricks?
Kobe was just shit, cut the excuses. He put up 14 points on 46% before he got hurt and the lakers still won by 17.

And 2004 was just as shit.

Your last statement shows just how stupid you are
Ironic how that idiot whines about "Branvestites" (hurr durr ain dat clevah doe?) making excuses when he has a litany of excuses prepared for his gawd

[inclinerator]

wasnt that the closest finals ever?

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol. Interesting. The same posters who seemed rather "happy" when Curry went down with the injury are denying that Kobe was intentionally injured in the 2000 Finals :lol

[RRR3]

Lol. Interesting. The same posters who seemed rather "happy" when Curry went down with the injury are denying that Kobe was intentionally injured in the 2000 Finals :lol
Was he really? I'm not trolling BTw If so, scumbag move by Rose.

[34-24 Footwork]

35%, 20%, 69%. 27 assists, 23 turnovers.

Swept.

Absolutely the worst finals I have ever witnessed from a competitive standpoint and an individual standpoint.

After that finals, and the colluding to form multiple super teams by leaving his own team, it'll be hard to ever recognize him as a top 10 GOAT.


Those turnovers :eek: :eek: :eek:

Lebron James was the beta version of James Harden:

No Eurostep, dribbling skills or freethrows.

[34-24 Footwork]

Was he really? I'm not trolling BTw If so, scumbag move by Rose.

Jalen Rose admitted this about 10 years ago. It's common knowledge. Remove your emotions from reality and you learn a lot :cheers:

[RRR3]

Jalen Rose admitted this about 10 years ago. It's common knowledge. Remove your emotions from reality and you learn a lot :cheers:
Not being emotional dude I was 8 in 2000 :lol

I was just curious

[34-24 Footwork]

Not being emotional dude I was 8 in 2000 :lol

I was just curious

I was 10, but I remember shit like that :lol

Horry/Nash
Dahntey Jones/Kobe
Raja Bell/Kobe
Lebron James/Stevenson

[RRR3]

Wtf happened to Raja Bell anyways. He can't be that old

[34-24 Footwork]

Wtf happened to Raja Bell anyways. He can't be that old

Run of the mill 3 & D player. He was the epitome of it...even in his Sixers days.

[Quickening]

Kobe bryant same age in his first finals... 15.6 ppg on 36 percent shooting.

Given not earnt

[Steven Kerry]

Prime Kobe finals numbers
Prime Kobe missed the finals completely.

[stalkerforlife]

Jalen Rose admitted this about 10 years ago. It's common knowledge. Remove your emotions from reality and you learn a lot :cheers:

How can you be a real fan of the game and not know Rose admitted this long ago? :lol

[Steven Kerry]

Run of the mill 3 & D player. He was the epitome of it...even in his Sixers days.
He had a splash of Matt Barnes bully mentality to him as well. Remember when the refs didn't fall for his flop so he threw Kobe to the ground to express how frustrated he was?

[riseagainst]

Prime Kobe missed the finals completely.

he made 3 consecutive finals in his prime. Never watched basketball have you?

:lol

[stalkerforlife]

lol @ the Branvestite mod that continues to change the title of my thread.

[Bankaii]

Ironic how that idiot whines about "Branvestites" (hurr durr ain dat clevah doe?) making excuses when he has a litany of excuses prepared for his gawd
It's the Kobetard way. There's also some excuse for Kobe, but with Lebron it's always "no excuses".
Lebron was injured in the 2015 Finals and lost his 2 best players but gets nothing but hate.

[34-24 Footwork]

He had a splash of Matt Barnes bully mentality to him as well. Remember when the refs didn't fall for his flop so he threw Kobe to the ground to express how frustrated he was?

Yes....but I remember Kobe tormenting his soul in 2001, as well. Raja Bell was much more of a b1tch than Barnes ever could've been. Dude started playing dirty in the middle of his athletic prime :lol

[stalkerforlife]

It's the Kobetard way. There's also some excuse for Kobe, but with Lebron it's always "no excuses".
Lebron was injured in the 2015 Finals and lost his 2 best players but gets nothing but hate.

From excuses to lies.

[34-24 Footwork]

How can you be a real fan of the game and not know Rose admitted this long ago? :lol

NO PHUCKIN CLUE

[34-24 Footwork]

From excuses to lies.

Dude's created an alternate reality in his head, Some of these stans are horrendous and I'm very skeptical if any of them actually WATCH BASKETBALL.

[stalkerforlife]

Dude's created an alternate reality in his head, Some of these stans are horrendous and I'm very skeptical if any of them actually WATCH BASKETBALL.

They don't watch and if they do, they have the same understanding of the game that the voters who voted for Bran as FMVP do.

[Bankaii]

From excuses to lies.
Lebron was dealing with ankle and back injuries the entire playoffs.
If you actually watched the games instead of highlights you would have heard them discuss it.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lebron was dealing with ankle and back injuries the entire playoffs.
If you actually watched the games instead of highlights you would have heard them discuss it.

Curry has dealt with that his whole Career. Next excuse.

[stephanieg]

After 2007 I remember a minor media/fan backlash about how LeBron couldn't shoot, use screens, work off ball, or post up. Sounds familiar.

[Showtime2001]

I wake up every morning and realize Kobe is far better than my loverboy LeBron is, and I start throwing my daily tantrum. I then attempt to make myself feel better by making retarded posts on ISH.



wash, rinse, repeat

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Nilocon165]

Stalker making stupid, irreverent threads. What's new?

[Bankaii]

Curry has dealt with that his whole Career. Next excuse.
Curry didn't have reoccurring ankle issues in 2015 dipshit, he was 100% healthy.
Lebron had back problem throughout the entire season and injured his ankle in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Now responding to my posts. You proved you're too stupid to have a logical debate with a while ago.

[34-24 Footwork]

Curry didn't have reoccurring ankle issues in 2015 dipshit, he was 100% healthy.
Lebron had back problem throughout the entire season and injured his ankle in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Now responding to my posts. You proved you're too stupid to have a logical debate with a while ago.

Curry has dealt with chronic ankle sprains literally his WHOLE career. Very well documented. But the more excuses the better :-)

[Steven Kerry]

he made 3 consecutive finals in his prime. Never watched basketball have you?

:lol
And his missed the playoffs when he was in his prime as well. Only that time, he didn't have Shaq or Pau to assist him.

[Steven Kerry]

Yes....but I remember Kobe tormenting his soul in 2001, as well. Raja Bell was much more of a b1tch than Barnes ever could've been. Dude started playing dirty in the middle of his athletic prime :lol
I agree that Barnes had a better career and was a thug pretty much his whole career.

[Steven Kerry]

Lebron was injured in the 2015 Finals
:coleman:

[tpols]

:coleman:

dudes straight fabricating shit now :lol


Lebron was also injured in 2014 Finals.. the trauma caused by the cramps in game 1 gave him a tummy ache that lasted for over a week

[Bankaii]

dudes straight fabricating shit now :lol


Lebron was also injured in 2014 Finals.. the trauma caused by the cramps in game 1 gave him a tummy ache that lasted for over a week
http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/1035/injury-list-the-aches-pains-of-lebron-james
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/10/8582479/lebron-james-injury-ankle-cavaliers-bulls-video

Seriously Kobetards will disregard all facts for their agenda.
Watch the games and you wouldn't look so dumb.

[tpols]

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/1035/injury-list-the-aches-pains-of-lebron-james
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/10/8582479/lebron-james-injury-ankle-cavaliers-bulls-video

Seriously Kobetards will disregard all facts for their agenda.
Watch the games and you wouldn't look so dumb.


you just like digging yourself into holes huh ?

[Showtime2001]

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-cavaliers/post/_/id/1035/injury-list-the-aches-pains-of-lebron-james
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/10/8582479/lebron-james-injury-ankle-cavaliers-bulls-video

Seriously Kobetards will disregard all facts for their agenda.
Watch the games and you wouldn't look so dumb.
Kobe led his team to a championship with a broken index finger and a drained knee.

By all means keep crying and making excuses you LeTard.

[Velocirap31]

Kobe led his team to a championship with a broken index finger and a drained knee.

By all means keep crying and making excuses you LeTard.

6/24 in a game 7. They won despite him not because of him.

[Showtime2001]

6/24 in a game 7. They won despite him not because of him.
Grabbed 15 rebounds and the whole team played like shit.

[Dr Hawk]

6/24 in a game 7. They won despite him not because of him.

Kobe Bryant's offensive rebounds: 4
Kevin Garnett's total rebounds: 3

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kobe-youre-welcome.gif

[Nilocon165]

Kobe Bryant's offensive rebounds: 4
Kevin Garnett's total rebounds: 3

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kobe-youre-welcome.gif
https://45.media.tumblr.com/5e5173ef83c944b19b2326ddab0ba898/tumblr_nm2gcxrE7g1qznj8ho1_400.gif

[Quickening]

Kobe Bryant's offensive rebounds: 4
Kevin Garnett's total rebounds: 3

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kobe-youre-welcome.gif

rebounds suddenly matter when Shaq and Gasol arent dominating

[AirBonner]

rebounds suddenly matter when Shaq and Gasol arent dominating
isn't that ironic? :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

bankaii with more nerdy bs, next thing you know he is going to be lecturing us again about how Derek Fisher is better than Kobe Bryant because of Ortg's....lmao cat does not know ball

[AirBonner]

bankaii with more nerdy bs, next thing you know he is going to be lecturing us again about how Derek Fisher is better than Kobe Bryant because of Ortg's....lmao cat does not know ball
You literally never contribute anything of substance. I wouldn't be talking if I were you.

[r15mohd]

Kobe Bryant's offensive rebounds: 4
Kevin Garnett's total rebounds: 3

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kobe-youre-welcome.gif


Grabbed 15 rebounds and the whole team played like shit.


so let's get this swaying of the wind rebuttal straight - Lebron grabs rebounds, and they're considered statpadding. Kobe grabs rebounds and it overshadows his garbage game 7? Am i right? :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

You literally never contribute anything of substance. I wouldn't be talking if I were you.

ive forgotten more basketball then you will ever know about the game lets just put it that way

[WindmiLL]

so let's get this swaying of the wind rebuttal straight - Lebron grabs rebounds, and they're considered statpadding. Kobe grabs rebounds and it overshadows his garbage game 7? Am i right? :confusedshrug:


Nothing new, many times Lebron has a bad shooting game it's considered huge failure even though most of the times he's near to a triple double. But hey, he shot badly and other stats are just ''statpadding'' and don't matter. When we talk about Kobe lets sing different song though.

[ImKobe]

right because everyone expected him to beat an all time great spurs team with a d league supporting cast. :rolleyes:

He played like trash, had no business even being in the Finals in the first place. And it's not like they got blown out every game, if he played up to his regular season averages its a close series..

[Bankaii]

Kobe led his team to a championship with a broken index finger and a drained knee.

By all means keep crying and making excuses you LeTard.
If by carried you mean having one of the worst game 7 performances of all time while getting bailed out by his front court then sure.

[Showtime2001]

If by carried you mean having one of the worst game 7 performances of all time while getting bailed out by his front court then sure.
meltdown.

[r15mohd]

He played like trash, had no business even being in the Finals in the first place. And it's not like they got blown out every game, if he played up to his regular season averages its a close series..

i guess larry hughes' 15ppg, the Cavs 2nd best threat that season, and being injured in the Finals (and ending of the ECF, as well) didn't mean anything :confusedshrug:

[Bankaii]

so let's get this swaying of the wind rebuttal straight - Lebron grabs rebounds, and they're considered statpadding. Kobe grabs rebounds and it overshadows his garbage game 7? Am i right? :confusedshrug:
That's how it works, Kobetards are a walking double standard.
Like how supposedly Lebron's stats don't matter cause the "east is weak" yet Kobe has even worse stats against the east.

[Bankaii]

meltdown.
That's what most Kobetards say when hit with facts they have no logical response for.

[Showtime2001]

That's what most Kobetards say when hit with facts they have no logical response for.
Coming from a LeTard oh the hypocrisy... :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

bankaii with more nerdy bs, next thing you know he is going to be lecturing us again about how Derek Fisher is better than Kobe Bryant because of Ortg's....lmao cat does not know ball
Lapdog back at it again with insults instead of contributing posts.

[Bankaii]

Coming from a LeTard oh the hypocrisy... :oldlol:
Another insult rather than proving me wrong:confusedshrug:

[Showtime2001]

Another insult rather than proving me wrong:confusedshrug:
You've been proven wrong numerous times clearly you are retarded if you think otherwise.

[Bankaii]

You've been proven wrong numerous times clearly you are retarded if you think otherwise.
Where? Point it out to me.

I said Lebron was injured in 2015 and posted evidence to support it.
I said Kobe played poorly the year you posted his injuries and that wasn't proved wrong.
I said Kobe played like shit in 2000 and Shaq still carried them to victory and that hasn't been proven wrong.

What exactly have you proved besides the fact you're incapable of making a good post?

[Steven Kerry]

rebounds suddenly matter when Shaq and Gasol arent dominating
:roll: :roll:

[warriorfan]

Where? Point it out to me.

I said Lebron was injured in 2015 and posted evidence to support it.
I said Kobe played poorly the year you posted his injuries and that wasn't proved wrong.
I said Kobe played like shit in 2000 and Shaq still carried them to victory and that hasn't been proven wrong.

What exactly have you proved besides the fact you're incapable of making a good post?

shut up jameer

[Bankaii]

woof woof
Sit lapdog. Quiet down and I might give you a treat.

[warriorfan]

Sit lapdog. Quiet down and I might give you a treat.

jameer stfu with your stat nerd takes about Ortg and Derek Fisher being better than Kobe, take that shit to realGM they will be feeling that over there, over here we know ball

[raprap]

jameer stfu with your stat nerd takes about Ortg and Derek Fisher being better than Kobe, take that shit to realGM they will be feeling that over there, over here we know ball
Meltdown

[Bankaii]

woof woof woof
One more bark out of you and you're going outside, lapdog.

[Gileraracer]

ALmost sounds like his 2015 finals :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What are his fanbois even debating right now?

LeBron played like dogshit. The best deflection in the world won't change that. :oldlol:

[3ball]

LeBron played like dogshit.



Exactly - many guys played better against the same Spurs team:



Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



Lebron's bad efficiency was due exclusively to his JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:



....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3




Everyone else shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.

Even 9 years later in 2016, his efficiency is among the worst in NBA outside the paint... Lebron simply CAN'T SHOOT.. When a player can't shoot, there are tons of guys that can play better than him.





The Cavs had no chance in 2007 Finals


Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.
.

[Gileraracer]

3ball spitting words of wisdom. Lebron stans already looking for some knife to cut themselves

[knicksman]

bankaii with more nerdy bs, next thing you know he is going to be lecturing us again about how Derek Fisher is better than Kobe Bryant because of Ortg's....lmao cat does not know ball

:oldlol: bankaii, a fan of the shittiest anime of all time and also a fan of the most overrated player of all tome. The guy clearly has low iq or he wouldnt be this gullible being fooled by a cover of a book

[stalkerforlife]

Exactly - many guys played better against the same Spurs team:



Lebron vs. Spurs in 2007 Finals: 22 ppg on 35%

Melo vs. Spurs in 2007 1st Rd: 27 ppg on 48%

Dirk vs. Spurs in 2007.. WCF: 27 ppg on 53%

Kobe vs. Spurs in 2008.. WCF: 29 ppg on 53%



Lebron's bad efficiency was due exclusively to his JUMPSHOOTING EFFICIENCY:



....................... midrange jumpshot FG%..... 3-point jumpshot FG%..... Jumpshot proportion of offense

Lebron 2007 Finals (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4) .............14.8........................... 20.0............................... 52.2
Dirk 2006 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/1717/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) ..................41.3........................... 50.0 .............................. 61.2
Melo 2007 1st Rd (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2546/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=1) ...............37.5........................... 50.0 .............................. 59.1
Kobe 2008 WCF (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=3) .................50.0........................... 33.3............................... 63.3




Everyone else shot well on jumpers against the Spurs, EXCEPT Lebron - so the Spurs jumpshooting defense clearly wasn't prohibitive - Lebron just can't shoot.

Even 9 years later in 2016, his efficiency is among the worst in NBA outside the paint... Lebron simply CAN'T SHOOT.. When a player can't shoot, there are tons of guys that can play better than him.



Not true - despite Lebron's 22 ppg on 35%, all 4 games were single-digit affairs, including 1-possession nail-biters in Games 3 and 4.. (edit: Game 1 was 11 pt game)

The Cavs had a great defense, but just needed a consistent volume scorer to win.
.

Does it get anymore clear than this?

3ball does it AGAIN.

[knicksman]

Does it get anymore clear than this?

3ball does it AGAIN.

But.. But.. But the way you score doesnt matter. Jumpshot is just as good as layup. What matters is stats.


But 2/6 is a stat too.

[Nilocon165]

Does it get anymore clear than this?

3ball does it AGAIN.
You do realize that nobody actually cares right? Get a job

[stalkerforlife]

You do realize that nobody actually cares right? Get a job

Being a stay at home Dad is the most important job in the world.

Don't be a sexist.

My kids are going places.

[eliteballer]

Goodness.

[eliteballer]

35 FG%, 20% on 3's, 69% FT