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G0ATbe
05-01-2016, 12:41 AM
And will be battling to further the gap for years to come

Steph
1x Champion
Greatest shooter of all time
Scoring title
73 wins


Kawhi
1x Champion
2x DPOY
1x FMVP
Thoroughly outplayed LeBald in back to back finals. Took a Ray Allen miracle to stop him from being back to back FMVP.

LeBald
1.5*x Champion
1.5* FMVP
Superteam rings
Lost in the finals 5.5 times
Greatest choker ever

LilEddyCurry
05-01-2016, 12:57 AM
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3ball
05-01-2016, 01:51 AM
Curry > Jordan


Jordan simply DID MORE than Curry - he was involved in MORE POSSESSIONS for his team (usage), while producing more PER-possession (ORtg):



1991 vs. 2016:



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 32.9% usage.. 125 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 32.6% usage.. 125 ORtg




Career



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg

JORDAN PLAYOFFS:. 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 PLAYOFFS:4 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg






Curry is better on offense because he's more efficient


Curry is more efficient on a per SHOT basis.

However, Jordan was more efficient on a per POSSESSION basis (ortg), which is more important - his higher per possession efficiency was due primarily to lower turnovers, but also because his superior midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) efficiency partially offset Curry's 3-point efficiency.

Ultimately, Jordan simply DID MORE - he was involved in more possessions (usage) at higher efficiency per-possession (ORtg) - Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (efficiency).






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Curry spaces the floor


Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see isiah thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.

kamil
05-01-2016, 01:53 AM
Jordan simply DID MORE than Curry - he was involved in MORE POSSESSIONS for his team (usage), while producing more PER-possession (ORtg):



1991 vs. 2016:



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 32.9% usage.. 125 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 32.6% usage.. 125 ORtg




Career



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg

JORDAN PLAYOFFS:. 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 PLAYOFFS:4 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg




Curry is more efficient on a per SHOT basis.

However, Jordan was more efficient on a per POSSESSION basis (ortg), which is more important - his higher per possession efficiency was due primarily to lower turnovers, but also because his superior midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) efficiency partially offset Curry's 3-point efficiency.

Ultimately, Jordan simply DID MORE - he was involved in more possessions (usage) at higher per-possession efficiency (ORtg) - Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (efficiency).



Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see isiah thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.

How did you quote Jameer when he aint even in this thread?

diamenz
05-01-2016, 06:41 AM
jordan > 3ball.

Spurs m8
05-01-2016, 06:44 AM
Great thread already hahah

ArbitraryWater
05-01-2016, 06:45 AM
How did you quote Jameer when he aint even in this thread?

:roll: :roll:

luckylucy
05-01-2016, 07:53 AM
What the hell is 3ball doing here? :biggums:

Smoke117
05-01-2016, 07:58 AM
Meltdown

Prime_Shaq
05-01-2016, 08:50 AM
Pretty sure Danny Green would've won Finals MVP had Spurs won in 2013

hiphopfan777
05-01-2016, 10:18 AM
kawhi leonard > michael jordan

SpaceJam
05-01-2016, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=LilEddyCurry]2

r0drig0lac
05-01-2016, 10:28 AM
Jordan simply DID MORE than Curry - he was involved in MORE POSSESSIONS for his team (usage), while producing more PER-possession (ORtg):



1991 vs. 2016:



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 32.9% usage.. 125 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 32.6% usage.. 125 ORtg




Career



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg

JORDAN PLAYOFFS:. 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 PLAYOFFS:4 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg




Curry is more efficient on a per SHOT basis.

However, Jordan was more efficient on a per POSSESSION basis (ortg), which is more important - his higher per possession efficiency was due primarily to lower turnovers, but also because his superior midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) efficiency partially offset Curry's 3-point efficiency.

Ultimately, Jordan simply DID MORE - he was involved in more possessions (usage) at higher efficiency per-possession (ORtg) - Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (efficiency).



Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see isiah thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man. dafuq

sportjames23
05-01-2016, 10:29 AM
kawhi leonard > michael jordan

https://media.giphy.com/media/ZucpMoYuuqn9C/giphy.gif

Bigsmoke
05-01-2016, 10:38 AM
Someone tell this dumbass op that LBJ gotta scoring title too

Optimus Prime
05-01-2016, 11:47 AM
[QUOTE=LilEddyCurry]2

k0kakw0rld
05-01-2016, 12:02 PM
And will be battling to further the gap for years to come

Steph
1x Champion
Greatest shooter of all time
Scoring title
73 wins


Kawhi
1x Champion
2x DPOY
1x FMVP
Thoroughly outplayed LeBald in back to back finals. Took a Ray Allen miracle to stop him from being back to back FMVP.

LeBald
1.5*x Champion
1.5* FMVP
Superteam rings
Lost in the finals 5.5 times
Greatest choker ever
Cringe