the REAL top players

[swagga]

This is about players that are REALLY in at the top of the game in impact, not necessarily great stats (which are many times misleading), but they bring the Ws in the playoffs, and that's what it's all about. This list is about competitors and true contributors.

1-5 (no order):
lebron
durant
curry
leonard
paul george

5-10 (no order):
cp3
davis
green
westbrook
lillard

10-15:
klay thompson, jimmy butler, LA, dirk, KAT.

Outside of top 15:
talented losers and team cancers -> harden, cousins, howard, melo, griffin
overrated statpadders -> lowry, derozan, wiltside, drummond
old guys on limited minutes or performing once in a blue moon -> wade, duncan

[SAKOTXA]

Westbrook easily over George

[Boogey]

This is about players that are REALLY in at the top of the game in impact, not necessarily great stats (which are many times misleading), but they bring the Ws in the playoffs, and that's what it's all about. This list is about competitors and true contributors.

1-5 (no order):
lebron
durant
curry
leonard
paul george

5-10 (no order):
cp3
davis
green
westbrook
lillard

10-15:
klay thompson, jimmy butler, LA, dirk, KAT.

Outside of top 15:
talented losers and team cancers -> harden, cousins, howard, melo, griffin
overrated statpadders -> lowry, derozan, wiltside, drummond
old guys on limited minutes or performing once in a blue moon -> wade, duncanaint really mad at that list. But PG the wouldn't put himself in the top 5

[aj1987]

This is about players that are REALLY in at the top of the game in impact, not necessarily great stats (which are many times misleading), but they bring the Ws in the playoffs, and that's what it's all about. This list is about competitors and true contributors.

1-5 (no order):
lebron
durant
curry
leonard
paul george

5-10 (no order):
cp3
davis
green
westbrook
lillard

10-15:
klay thompson, jimmy butler, LA, dirk, KAT.

Outside of top 15:
talented losers and team cancers -> harden, cousins, howard, melo, griffin
overrated statpadders -> lowry, derozan, wiltside, drummond
old guys on limited minutes or performing once in a blue moon -> wade, duncan
:biggums: :biggums:

[ArbitraryWater]

:biggums: :biggums:

whaa?

[Cleverness]

Westbrook easily over George

Overall good list. Even though I don't like Westbrook, he's looking bad right now after one blowout road game by a great team. Paul George would be crushed too if he was playing the Spurs and not the Raptors

[aj1987]

whaa?
Dirk and KAT didn't have more impact than Wade. If you're watching the PO's, you'd see how much impact Wade has.

[sd3035]

Decent list but Chris Paul belongs in the losers category

[bobopenguin]

lol paul george at top 5? pass whatever sh*t u are smoking!

[Nikola_]

says no order

still puts them in order

[Bankaii]

People acting like PG13 isn't putting up ridiculous numbers and is tied in a series against a 2 seed with the worse supporting cast in the PO. Plus he actually plays defense.

Westbrook puts up nice numbers but his impact isn't as high as his numbers would suggest.

[swagga]

People acting like PG13 isn't putting up ridiculous numbers and is tied in a series against a 2 seed with the worse supporting cast in the PO. Plus he actually plays defense.

Westbrook puts up nice numbers but his impact isn't as high as his numbers would suggest.

that's why I rate him highly too, his defense is really underrated here.



Decent list but Chris Paul belongs in the losers category
that's not right tbh. Cp3 is an asshole but he is competitive as they come and he does everything to win. All his life he has been stuck with subpar teams (not names, but teams).



says no order
still puts them in order

i put them into tiers. If you want order I have lebron, durant, curry, leonard, paul george as the best in the NBA, in this order. I don't care about the fancy shit, that's the order I take if I have to pick ONE guy to help me win a ring. Sure, depending on the team you're using said player on, the order can change.
Why do I have curry so low? Because he needs refs on his side much more than the others. Without crazy illegal screens curry can be locked down in a physical playoff series. He is also the most fragile out of the bunch. Nothing personal, but lebron and durant just provide more (defense, rebounds, toughness, leadership, lineup flexibility..so on) and any sane GM would make the same pick.


:biggums: :biggums:
The problem with wade is that he has big games and small games, he isn't constant because he is old, so I can't justify puting him over someone who is bringing it every night. On a good night wade is a top 10 player no questions asked. Dirk for example is much more reliable, less variance in his game, and thus he can carry a team more through his consistency. Wade is more of a big game player in this stage of his career :he'll have one monster game and 2-3-4 so-so games. So I'd take dirk for an entire playoff run but wade for a single finals game.


Westbrook easily over George
regular season yes, playoffs no. Westbrook's not mentally strong enough to control a playoff game. Veteran teams like the spurs exploit this (time and time again), you see it in pace setting easily. I also appreciate George defense much more in a playoff setting. Westbrook isn't a lockdown defender. George also gives you a flexible lineup with him as a stretch four, which is critical for playoff adjustments. With George you get a more poised player with more value in size&flexibility.

[AngelEyes]

Dirk and KAT didn't have more impact than Wade. If you're watching the PO's, you'd see how much impact Wade has.

KAT is going to soar up that list very soon so you may just as well have him there.

[Duggrr]

Replace Davis with Aldridge. Extremely overrated defender if you actually watch the ****ing games

[Gileraracer]

List is OK, but Lebron is the 3rd option on his team so I'd replace him with CP3

[swagga]

Replace Davis with Aldridge. Extremely overrated defender if you actually watch the ****ing games

His roster is horrible, he is forced into jumping on everything as their perimeter defense is never there. Besides being prone to fakes his defensive impact is excellent, as he can switch the pnr exceptionally. As a spurs fan you should have noticed that he always gives you fits.
Aldridge is a top 20 player and a good fit on the spurs, but he can't carry a team like davis. No shame in that, davis is just an athletic freak.

[ArbitraryWater]

The problem with wade is that he has big games and small games, he isn't constant because he is old, so I can't justify puting him over someone who is bringing it every night. On a good night wade is a top 10 player no questions asked. Dirk for example is much more reliable, less variance in his game, and thus he can carry a team more through his consistency. Wade is more of a big game player in this stage of his career :he'll have one monster game and 2-3-4 so-so games. So I'd take dirk for an entire playoff run but wade for a single finals game.

bingo.. waited for a Heat fan to say it himself :cheers:

[swagga]

List is OK, but Lebron is the 3rd option on his team so I'd replace him with CP3

I sometimes wonder if lebron has gay porn pics with all the executives in the league, for a guy so untalented and unskilled the execs always kill themselves to sign him. One time they even gave him a televised show, so he could annouce his next team live, so he must have something on the league too... going at this rate he might be next obama!

[imdaman99]

regular season yes, playoffs no. Westbrook's not mentally strong enough to control a playoff game. Veteran teams like the spurs exploit this (time and time again), you see it in pace setting easily. I also appreciate George defense much more in a playoff setting. Westbrook isn't a lockdown defender. George also gives you a flexible lineup with him as a stretch four, which is critical for playoff adjustments. With George you get a more poised player with more value in size&flexibility.
:roll: Yeah, God forbid the Spurs best defense in the league makes someone look bad for a game or 2. Paul George is some sort of playoff superstar? Say what? He is the same guy giving daps to Lebron after dunking on his entire team. Yeah, sorry. George is locking up who? Derozan? Because Derozan turns into a scrub in the playoffs. And Paul George isn't even in the 2nd round, yet you're putting him at top 5. GTFO.

Supposed Knick fan that slurps Lebron and George. Keep it up. I'm sure you had all of Michael Jordan's jerseys in the 90s and even bought a Reggie Miller or Tim Hardaway jersey as well :oldlol:

[swagga]

bingo.. waited for a Heat fan to say it himself :cheers:
knicks fan son :(

[swagga]

:roll: Yeah, God forbid the Spurs best defense in the league makes someone look bad for a game or 2. Paul George is some sort of playoff superstar? Say what? He is the same guy giving daps to Lebron after dunking on his entire team. Yeah, sorry. George is locking up who? Derozan? Because Derozan turns into a scrub in the playoffs. And Paul George isn't even in the 2nd round, yet you're putting him at top 5. GTFO.

Supposed Knick fan that slurps Lebron and George. Keep it up. I'm sure you had all of Michael Jordan's jerseys in the 90s and even bought a Reggie Miller or Tim Hardaway jersey as well :oldlol:

1. westbrook has a long history of boneheaded plays and chucking which cost the thunder dearly. It isn't about this series (whose outcome should be obvious to any basketball fan)

2. paul george is taking a 56 win 2nd seed to a 7-th game, with nothing but hot trash. When he was healthy he went against the big 3 heat matching up with either lebron or wade ... tough shit. I don't think there is a player in this league who hasn't bowed down to lebron, so that's not much of an argument.

why are you so salty son? Everybody I know owns a jordan jersey, it don't mean jordan isn't an asshole and knicks killer. I don't care for reggie or tim hardaway enough to get their jerseys. Im a knicks and basketball fan not a stan, get this salty shit outta here.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Westbrook puts up nice numbers but his impact isn't as high as his numbers would suggest.
Agreed.

[imdaman99]

Everybody I know owns a jordan jersey, it don't mean jordan isn't an asshole and knicks killer.
Well if you're a Knicks fan and openly rooted for MJ, than I can't have a conversation with you anymore :lol

Fk MJ, the only pleasure I get in the Heat winning a playoff series is seeing Jordan put to rest.

[swagga]

Well if you're a Knicks fan and openly rooted for MJ, than I can't have a conversation with you anymore :lol

Fk MJ, the only pleasure I get in the Heat winning a playoff series is seeing Jordan put to rest.

cmon son, how can you be a basketball fan and not have a jersey of the goat? I don't care if he's an asshole, that jersey reps what he did on the court. :bowdown:

[Rocketswin2013]

paul george?

[Boogey]

if klay continues to play like this, and get better off the dribble, uhh ohh

[swagga]

if klay continues to play like this, and get better off the dribble, uhh ohh

klay has a tendency to not show up against tough defense. Blazers are in no way a true playoff test for them. I'll wait to see klay thompson against the spurs and the cavs.

[aj1987]

The problem with wade is that he has big games and small games, he isn't constant because he is old, so I can't justify puting him over someone who is bringing it every night. On a good night wade is a top 10 player no questions asked. Dirk for example is much more reliable, less variance in his game, and thus he can carry a team more through his consistency. Wade is more of a big game player in this stage of his career :he'll have one monster game and 2-3-4 so-so games. So I'd take dirk for an entire playoff run but wade for a single finals game.
KAT and Dirk were "bringing it" every night? :oldlol:

You really haven't watched the Mavs this season, have you? This Heat team basically goes as far as Wade takes them, unless someone gets hot. That's been the story the whole season. If Wade has an off night, it's pretty much a loss for the Heat. The Mavs won a bunch of games even when he was completely off and scored under 10 points a game.

[tpols]

Tier 1
Curry
Lebron

Tier 2
Chris Paul
Kawhi
Paul George
Westbrook
Durant

Tier 3
Harden
Davis
Cousins