Angela Merkel sinks to a new low

[Dresta]

And arranges for the prosecution of a German citizen because he said something that "offended" the Turkish tyrant Erdogan. Erdogan demanded she have him prosecuted, and Merkel obliged. He could face a sentence of 5 years:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/angela-merkel-agrees-prosecution-comedian-erdogan-poem

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/17/angela-merkel-is-now-silencing-german-satirists-to-please-erdoga/

Unbelievable :facepalm

How long before Germany is basically a police state? UK needs to get out of the EU real quick, pity that chumps like Obama are going around and threatening the UK electorate with what amounts to economic warfare if they do decide to live under their own laws.

edit: Douglas Murray starting an "insult Erdogan" competition (also more detail on the affair):

[QUOTE]At the end of last month, during a late-night comedy programme, a young German comedian called Jan B

[fiddy]

:facepalm

[TheMan]

This is my contribution...

Erdogan is a fggot

:bowdown:

[Dresta]

A goat-****ing fggot.

[sd3035]

Erdogan prefers the company of men

[NumberSix]

East Germany

[D. Toretto]

Crazy thing is, its german law that its a criminal act if you insult the head of state of another country. Belongs into the Middle Age if you ask me

[senelcoolidge]

Germany has tried hard to rid their past nazi history only to go where their going now...shame..:facepalm

[nathanjizzle]

And arranges for the prosecution of a German citizen because he said something that "offended" the Turkish tyrant Erdogan. Erdogan demanded she have him prosecuted, and Merkel obliged. He could face a sentence of 5 years:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/angela-merkel-agrees-prosecution-comedian-erdogan-poem

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/17/angela-merkel-is-now-silencing-german-satirists-to-please-erdoga/

Unbelievable :facepalm

How long before Germany is basically a police state? UK needs to get out of the EU real quick, pity that chumps like Obama are going around and threatening the UK electorate with what amounts to economic warfare if they do decide to live under their own laws.

edit: Douglas Murray starting an "insult Erdogan" competition (also more detail on the affair):



http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/introducing-the-president-erdogan-offensive-poetry-competition/

nobody cares what you think especially someone in the position of Angela Merkel. you are just a nobody who thinks your opinion matters and is valid. youre a loser and completely irrelevant.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

"And the parable of an evil word is like an evil tree torn out of the Earth and has no stability."

14:26

[fiddy]

nobody cares what you think especially someone in the position of Angela Merkel. you are just a nobody who thinks your opinion matters and is valid. youre a loser and completely irrelevant.
Look who is talking :roll:

[TheMan]

Germany has tried hard to rid their past nazi history only to go where their going now...shame..:facepalm
Quite embarrassing, to say the least.

Serious question...which is worse, this beta ass SJW try hards Germany now is, or the alpha af nation that persecuted millions of Jews, Gypsies, fggots, gimps and other undesirables on a whim :confusedshrug:

Seems like they need to be somewhere in the middle rather than on the extreme.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Quite embarrassing, to say the least.

Serious question...which is worse, this beta ass SJW try hards Germany now is, or the alpha af nation that persecuted millions of Jews, Gypsies, fggots, gimps and other undesirables on a whim :confusedshrug:

Seems like they need to be somewhere in the middle rather than on the extreme.

Usted sabe que la calle media.

No mas derecha, no mas izquierda.

Media. Pregunta Dio.

En la vida de gente, las palabras malas devuelvan para ataqa gente luego. Es el poder del Dio. La Lengua puede hablar verdad o hablar mal. Es no media. Verdad o mal.

[Dresta]

nobody cares what you think especially someone in the position of Angela Merkel. you are just a nobody who thinks your opinion matters and is valid. youre a loser and completely irrelevant.
:roll:


What? Try to stay at least somewhat relevant. What on earth does this have to do with me? You're acting like some kind of obsessional stalker. All I did was post a story of the German head of state bowing to the demands of foreign despots, prosecuting her own citizens at the behest of the Islamist tyrant Erdogan, and you completely lose your shit, and just hurl a bunch of irrelevant ad hominems in my direction. You must be off your meds or something.

And evidently my opinion is relevant when it comes to winding up mindless dolts like yourself; relevant and effective. Not to mention that it's not simply my opinion: the vast majority of Americans would view this as a complete disgrace also.

[BasedTom]

:( :( :(

[Dresta]

Quite embarrassing, to say the least.

Serious question...which is worse, this beta ass SJW try hards Germany now is, or the alpha af nation that persecuted millions of Jews, Gypsies, fggots, gimps and other undesirables on a whim :confusedshrug:

Seems like they need to be somewhere in the middle rather than on the extreme.
Have you been to Germany? They can't help but follow rules and directives with fanatical zeal. Makes perfect sense that they'd go from one extreme to another.

Such an ordered and regimented and bureaucratic country.

[NumberSix]

Have you been to Germany? They can't help but follow rules and directives with fanatical zeal. Makes perfect sense that they'd go from one extreme to another.

Such an ordered and regimented and bureaucratic country.
Germans are part robot.

[ArbitraryWater]

Germans are part robot.

lol

its really not like that

Merkel doesnt even like Erdogan's prosecution begging.. she's for free spech, she's following rules, but its still dumb, its satire... so part blame her.

[TheMan]

Germans are part robot.
:no:

I had a German gf back when I was single and I can attest to her being 100% human female :rockon:

She was a foreign exchange student and studied in Mexico for a year and I met many other Germans through her. Very nice and friendly people, and very smart too. Most of them know at least two languages (my ex spoke three, German, English and Spanish) whereas most Americans barely know English :facepalm

[aj1987]

Germans are part robot.
Explains AW's posts.

[ArbitraryWater]

Explains AW's posts.

so perfect you think im a robot :biggums: thx breh

[aj1987]

so perfect you think im a robot :biggums: thx breh
Programed to put out repetitive BS.

Our bet still stands, thanks to Dragic in G7 and Wade in G6, BTW. :cheers:

[Brunch@Five]

at the same time that she allowed for the prosecution, she also decided that she would introduce a bill that would abolish that very law. It was a diplomatic move inspired by pragmatic foreign policy interests.
Erdogan is also suing B

[Nick Young]

Germans are part robot.
They are essentially the Chinese/Japanese of Europe.

They are all about the greater good and following orders and rules unquestioningly.


And to think, Libtards of ISH were saying we should be more like Germany and Sweden.

Yes libtards, state censored media would be great for the United States.

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]at the same time that she allowed for the prosecution, she also decided that she would introduce a bill that would abolish that very law. It was a diplomatic move inspired by pragmatic foreign policy interests.
Erdogan is also suing B

[tomtucker]

Quite embarrassing, to say the least.

Serious question...which is worse, this beta ass SJW try hards Germany now is, or the alpha af nation that persecuted millions of Jews, Gypsies, fggots, gimps and other undesirables on a whim :confusedshrug:

Seems like they need to be somewhere in the middle rather than on the extreme.
spot on post.......no matter what they do, they have to fukk up the rest of europe :biggums:

[gigantes]

And arranges for the prosecution of a German citizen because he said something that "offended" the Turkish tyrant Erdogan. Erdogan demanded she have him prosecuted, and Merkel obliged. He could face a sentence of 5 years:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/15/angela-merkel-agrees-prosecution-comedian-erdogan-poem

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/17/angela-merkel-is-now-silencing-german-satirists-to-please-erdoga/

Unbelievable :facepalm

How long before Germany is basically a police state? UK needs to get out of the EU real quick, pity that chumps like Obama are going around and threatening the UK electorate with what amounts to economic warfare if they do decide to live under their own laws.

edit: Douglas Murray starting an "insult Erdogan" competition (also more detail on the affair):



http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/introducing-the-president-erdogan-offensive-poetry-competition/
i wouldn't be surprised in the least to find out that this is yet another attack against merkel ultimately orchestrated by putin (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21697236-germanys-establishment-once-believed-conciliation-russia-no-longer-fool-me-once?spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709).

[Nick Young]

i wouldn't be surprised in the least to find out that this is yet another attack against merkel ultimately orchestrated by putin (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21697236-germanys-establishment-once-believed-conciliation-russia-no-longer-fool-me-once?spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709).
:hammerhead:
http://i34.tinypic.com/nywrdf.jpg

[gigantes]

:hammerhead:
http://i34.tinypic.com/nywrdf.jpg
hah, has anybody ever told you that you have a remarkable gift for imitating ancient humans... i mean, the ones who haven't discovered language yet?


but speaking on behalf of all of ISH-- i pledge that we WON'T REST until you learn how to form coherent, reasonably informed, and rational sentences! :djparty

[Dresta]

i wouldn't be surprised in the least to find out that this is yet another attack against merkel ultimately orchestrated by putin (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21697236-germanys-establishment-once-believed-conciliation-russia-no-longer-fool-me-once?spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709).
Sorry, but the Economist is wholly subject to the neocon/globalist/corporate/regime change agenda, and I wouldn't take anything it has to say about geopolitics remotely seriously. Their senior editor, Edward Lucas, is brazenly pro-NATO and an unwavering apologist for American imperialism, so much so that he went as far as to say that Edward Snowden was a Russian spy (get it: everything is a dirty Russian plot, the West is always good, and the East is always bad).

The Economist was also (unsurprisingly) a cheerleader for the Libyan intervention, and also for American arming of imaginary "moderates" in Syria and even direct intervention and personal removal of Assad. Here is there latest:

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21693208-russian-daring-and-american-weakness-have-changed-course-warfor-worse-peril

subheading:

[QUOTE]Russian daring and American weakness have changed the course of the war

[Dresta]

More gems from that article:


If Mr Assad and Russia succeed in turning the war into a choice between the regime and the worst jihadists, it would be a disaster. Most Syrians are Sunni and many of them will never be reconciled to Mr Assad. If mainstream groups are crushed, they will be driven either into Europe or into the arms of the jihadists. Non-jihadist Sunnis therefore need support.

The tragedy of Mr Obama’s feebleness is that actions that were once feasible—establishing a no-fly zone or creating safe areas—now carry the risk of a clash with Russia. Undeclared humanitarian zones may still be possible. Mr Obama’s best response would be to take his own policy seriously: create a moderate force to push back the caliphate in eastern Syria. This would involve Sunni states; it would give moderate rebels a hinterland from which to establish the nucleus of an alternative government under existing American air cover; and it would call Russia’s bluff about fighting the jihadists.

The West will have to press Russia, starting with the renewal of EU sanctions this summer. Mr Putin has made canny use of force. The West’s response need not be limited to Syria.

:roll:

Utterly delusional or wholly disingenuous. The two major forces fighting Assad are ISIS and Al-Nusra (Al-Qaeda), and the supposedly moderate FSA is a strong ally of the latter. The only moderates still fighting in this war are those who fight for the Syrian army, who are being butchered and beheaded by groups aided by NATO powers. They not only kill Syrian army members, they send pictures of their severed heads to their parents and relatives; these are the sorts of people the shills at the Economist are empowering, whether they realise it or not. 'Non-Jihadist Sunnis' are fighting predominantly for the Syrian army, which is majority Sunni.

But yeah, the final line is a fine summation of the dogma of these liberal utopianists: make perpetual war to secure perpetual peace; don't just take on Russia in Syria, stir up more unrest elsewhere! (like in Ukraine, perhaps, which is something they already did, and with more needless bloodshed and war resulting).

edit: many of those fighting for Al-Nusra and similar groups are Syrians who took part in the insurgency against US forces in Iraq. This shit is like 1984.

[Nick Young]

Turkey and the Saudis are our true enemies. Get back to me when we start going after them. Those are pretty much the only two US wars I would support, other than defending ourselves from a foreign invasion, or delivering "freedom" to North Korea.

[gigantes]

Sorry, but the Economist is wholly subject to the neocon/globalist/corporate/regime change agenda, and I wouldn't take anything it has to say about geopolitics remotely seriously. Their senior editor, Edward Lucas, is brazenly pro-NATO and an unwavering apologist for American imperialism, so much so that he went as far as to say that Edward Snowden was a Russian spy (get it: everything is a dirty Russian plot, the West is always good, and the East is always bad).

The Economist was also (unsurprisingly) a cheerleader for the Libyan intervention, and also for American arming of imaginary "moderates" in Syria and even direct intervention and personal removal of Assad. Here is there latest:

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21693208-russian-daring-and-american-weakness-have-changed-course-warfor-worse-peril

subheading:




Sound at all familiar? Because to me it sounds just like the Republican warmongers in Congress. Not to mention its mind-numbing ignorance: for instance, their belief that rebels in Syria haven't already been provided with anti-aircraft weaponry (anyone who has followed the war knows that a number of Syrian jets have been shot down, and that many rebel factions have been supplied with MANPADS--capable of shooting down civilian airliners btw, and that these weapons are openly made for sale in Libya, due to our idiotic intervention in that country).

Also, the idea that Putin should need to divide Erdogan from his "NATO allies" (as the article asserts) is patently ludicrous considering the heaps of evidence that the Turks have been aiding the Islamic State, and blackmailing its "allies" regarding the migrant crisis. Ties should long have been cut with that tyrant if western powers were in any way consistent in their condemnations of foreign despots (Erdogan and Saudis = ok, Putin and Assad=evil incarnate). Give me a break: a child should be able to see through such sophistry.
aha. well, i can't pretend that those theatres are ones that i'm particularly knowledgeable about. china and japan are moreso my specialties.

anyway, one of the first things that popped out to me (re: linked article) was putin's hand in matters. that seems entirely consistent with everything i know so far about the SOP of that mofo.

there's probably a good online discussion on the germany - russia rift. if possible i'll take a look and compare it to your notes on the economist. that could be interesting.