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Keno
05-01-2016, 04:17 PM
with the 'mvp' of the league and team going down, you'd expect them to lose, or at least a few games right? wrong, gsw surprisingly looks better without curry and are blowing teams out left right and center.

if lebron were to go down last series, the pistons would've probably won even with kyrie having his best series of his career.

this is why lebron is and will always be the mvp of the league, regardless of whoever gets the trophy.

LakersForlife
05-01-2016, 04:18 PM
with the 'mvp' of the league and team going down, you'd expect them to lose, or at least a few games right? wrong, gsw surprisingly looks better without curry and are blowing teams out left right and center.

if lebron were to go down last series, the pistons would've probably won even with kyrie having his best series of his career.

this is why lebron is and will always be the mvp of the league, regardless of whoever gets the trophy.
le Eastern james

TheMarkMadsen
05-01-2016, 04:21 PM
Without Curry they lose to a healthy Clips in 6, or lose to the Spurs in 5 in the WCF (if they play play the Blazers instead of Clippers)

With Curry they are the greatest team of all time

warriorfan
05-01-2016, 04:23 PM
Without Curry they lose to a healthy Clips in 6, or lose to the Spurs in 5 in the WCF (if they play play the Blazers instead of Clippers)

With Curry they are the greatest team of all time

This.


People are overreacting because the Rockets are an awful team, shouldn't of made playoffs...And now Blazers got in here because of a fluke injury to two superstars

LakersForlife
05-01-2016, 04:23 PM
Without Curry they lose to a healthy Clips in 6, or lose to the Spurs in 5 in the WCF (if they play play the Blazers instead of Clippers)

With Curry they are the greatest team of all time
ffs they lost to ****ing houston rockets the worst playoff team in history

Steven Kerry
05-01-2016, 04:25 PM
Just because he has a good roster who is playing against a team with no business being in the 2nd round does not mean Curry has low impact.

Atlantis
05-01-2016, 04:44 PM
Without Curry, the Warriors are the second best team in the league. With him, they are the best team in history. So even though the Warriors are not struggling in the playoffs without him, it doesn't mean that he's not as impactful as Lebron is. It just means that they're really stacked.

Dray n Klay
05-01-2016, 04:44 PM
Agreed

Keno
05-01-2016, 05:14 PM
Agreed

:cheers:

scuzzy
05-01-2016, 05:20 PM
without a doubt, 100% true OP

Spurs5Rings2014
05-01-2016, 05:23 PM
Never seen a more STACKED team. Everyone knows how I feel about Bran here, but Curry is clearly less valuable to his team than LeBaldo.

:confusedshrug:

3ball
05-01-2016, 05:30 PM
Agreed


Lebron has a positive impact on offense AND defense, whereas Curry only has a positive impact on offense.

However, both have inferior impact to the GOAT's goat impact (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12337427&postcount=10).

Bosnian Sajo
05-01-2016, 05:31 PM
lmaoo, this reminds me of how people used to say the Lakers are better when Kobe is on the bench (circa 05-12, the "24" era). :oldlol:

Bosnian Sajo
05-01-2016, 05:32 PM
Never seen a more STACKED team. Everyone knows how I feel about Bran here, but Curry is clearly less valuable to his team than LeBaldo.

:confusedshrug:


#howboutkawhi2016

Magic 32
05-01-2016, 05:35 PM
That's because Lebron always imposes a self-centered stat-accumulating non-system that leaves his teammates debilitated without him on the floor.

A system is always there to help the lesser players, but Lebron will never allow that on his teams.

Blue&Orange
05-01-2016, 05:38 PM
Lebronball doesn't work without Lebron. This has been explained to death.

The only time Lebron played something close to team concept was with the Heat, and it was because Wade and Riley didn't allow Spoelstra to be fired like Lebron wanted.

Magic 32
05-01-2016, 05:39 PM
Lebronball doesn't work without Lebron. This has been explained to death.

The only time Lebron played something close to team concept was with the Heat, and it was because Wade and Riley didn't allow Spoelstra to be fired like Lebron wanted.

There it is.

WorldWarriors
05-01-2016, 05:40 PM
with the 'mvp' of the league and team going down, you'd expect them to lose, or at least a few games right? wrong, gsw surprisingly looks better without curry and are blowing teams out left right and center.

if lebron were to go down last series, the pistons would've probably won even with kyrie having his best series of his career.

this is why lebron is and will always be the mvp of the league, regardless of whoever gets the trophy.

A good system in place that the team buys into goes a long way.

SwayDizzle
05-01-2016, 05:44 PM
it's not that this gsw team is super stacked, there are better individual players in other teams. it's that each and every player on this gsw squad knows their role to perfection and is selfless. they play as a unit and thrive on playing so. they took what the spurs have been doing and perfected it to another level. like other posters have said, without curry, gsw will not beat the upper echelon teams in the league, and most certainly not the spurs. gsw needs a healthy and locked in curry to advance to the finals.

Klayup
05-01-2016, 05:45 PM
ffs they lost to ****ing houston rockets the worst playoff team in history
86 Bulls broski.

3ball
05-01-2016, 05:48 PM
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The GOAT impact on a DECENT team



The Bulls went from 3-peat dynasty to 2nd Round team, back to 3-peat dynasty... Nuff said.



The GOAT impact on a LOTTERY team



In 1989, the 47-win Bulls would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without Jordan's 33/8/8.. So heading into the 1990 season without Jordan, they were a lottery roster and headed nowhere - but WITH Jordan, they were ECF veterans and 1 season away from starting a 6-peat dynasty.


Btw, Jordan carried his 1989 lottery roster to 6 games with the champs just like Lebron did in 2015 - except Jordan led that lottery roster all season, while Lebron only led a lottery roster beginning in the Finals when everyone was hurt.. Pretty massive difference.



Also, Jordan faced EVERY POSSESSION double-teaming in 1989 Playoffs, especially against the Pistons' "Jordan Rules" in ECF.. Here's an example from Game 6, starting at the 9 minute mark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4W_0I82B18&t=1h21m11s) of 4th quarter - MJ is double-teamed 10 of 13 times he touched the ball to finish out the game.. All 10 double-teams shown are shown in gifs here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11703590&postcount=88).

In comparison to Jordan being double-teamed 10+ times per QUARTER, Lebron was double-teamed a total of 18 times in the ENTIRE 2015 Finals:




"When James was double-teamed, the Cavaliers scored 5 points on 2-of-18 shooting".

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106718/iguodala-heads-all-playoff-defensive-team

SwayDizzle
05-01-2016, 05:51 PM
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The GOAT impact on a DECENT team



The Bulls went from 3-peat dynasty to 2nd Round team, back to 3-peat dynasty... Nuff said.



The GOAT impact on a LOTTERY team



In 1989, the 47-win Bulls would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without Jordan's 33/8/8.. So heading into the 1990 season without Jordan, they were a lottery roster and headed nowhere - but WITH Jordan, they were ECF veterans and 1 season away from starting a 6-peat dynasty.


Btw, Jordan carried his 1989 lottery roster to 6 games with the champs just like Lebron did in 2015 - except Jordan led that lottery roster all season, while Lebron only led a lottery roster beginning in the Finals when everyone was hurt.. Pretty massive difference.



Also, Jordan faced EVERY POSSESSION double-teaming in 1989 Playoffs, especially against the Pistons' "Jordan Rules" in ECF.. Here's an example from Game 6, starting at the 9 minute mark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4W_0I82B18&t=1h21m11s) of 4th quarter - MJ is double-teamed 10 of 13 times he touched the ball to finish out the game.. All 10 double-teams shown are shown in gifs here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11703590&postcount=88).

In comparison to Jordan being double-teamed 10+ times per QUARTER, Lebron was double-teamed a total of 18 times in the ENTIRE 2015 Finals:




"When James was double-teamed, the Cavaliers scored 5 points on 2-of-18 shooting".

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106718/iguodala-heads-all-playoff-defensive-team
you're off topic

Lebronxrings
05-01-2016, 05:54 PM
curry is a better shooter than lebron but thats it. Lebron is better than curry at everything else.

GrapeApe
05-01-2016, 05:56 PM
it's not that this gsw team is super stacked, there are better individual players in other teams. it's that each and every player on this gsw squad knows their role to perfection and is selfless. they play as a unit and thrive on playing so. they took what the spurs have been doing and perfected it to another level. like other posters have said, without curry, gsw will not beat the upper echelon teams in the league, and most certainly not the spurs. gsw needs a healthy and locked in curry to advance to the finals.

Absolutely. The Warriors are a good team without Curry but they're a historically good team with him. That's a big difference. It's kind of like when people point to the 1994 Bulls without Jordan. They were a good team but Jordan made them a 6x championship team.

A team being able to win games without their star doesn't tell the whole story. The goal is to win championships. The Warriors aren't sniffing a title without Curry. That's where his impact is most obvious.

aj1987
05-01-2016, 06:00 PM
Lebron has a positive impact on offense AND defense, whereas Curry only has a positive impact on offense.

However, both have inferior impact to the GOAT's goat impact (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12337427&postcount=10).
Probably the only time you'll ever say anything positive about LeBron. Still finished your post with you insecurity though.

Curry >>>>>> MJ, BTW.