Wade never got out of the 1st round as a 1st option...

[Dray n Klay]

2004- Caron Butler/ Odom

2005-2006- Shaq

2011-2014- LeBron

2016- Dragic/Deng



Discuss

[ShawkFactory]

How is this enjoyable to you?

[navy]

2011

[brownmamba00]

OP is a fakkit

[Papaya Petee]

:roll:

u fakkit

[GrapeApe]

Wade is obviously the first option. He was the team's leader in scoring, fg attempts, and fg's made. That is basically the definition of a first option.

Oh and he was his team's leading playoff scorer in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2011.

Another massive fail by OP.

[aj1987]

2004- Caron Butler/ Odom

2005-2006- Shaq

2011-2014- LeBron

2016- Dragic/Deng



Discuss
LeBron never did as well.

2006 - Hughes
2007 - Hughes
2008 - Z
2009 - Mo
2010 - Mo
2011 - Wade
2012 - Wade
2013 - Allen
2014 - Wade
2015 - Irving
2016 - Irving

Lets discuss this as well. :cheers:

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron never did as well.

2006 - Hughes
2007 - Hughes
2008 - Z
2009 - Mo
2010 - Mo
2011 - Wade
2012 - Wade
2013 - Allen
2014 - Wade
2015 - Irving
2016 - Irving

Lets discuss this as well. :cheers:

Lol u dumbass :roll: :roll: :roll:



This is why everyone thinks Heat fans are retards :facepalm

[Papaya Petee]

Lol u dumbass :roll: :roll: :roll:



This is why everyone thinks Heat fans are retards :facepalm
Not really, there was a lot of ESPN articles in 2009 and 2010 about Mo's back injuries due to carrying LeBron.

[Nilocon165]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ZucpMoYuuqn9C/giphy.gif

[aj1987]

Lol im a dumbass :roll: :roll: :roll:



This is why everyone thinks lebum fans are retards :facepalm

Agreed, kid. :cheers:

[BasketballLove]

Hi guys first post here :)

I don't feel like you can judge Wade by this metric, he's a really good hustle player that isn't very selfish on the court. He has a great FG% and very good assist numbers for a SG, I think its also very unique for him as a SG to only have one season above 20 attempts per game and he had a 50 FG% that year also.

I don't think he is the perfect player though he does have some flaws. He's injury prone, I don't like his FT% and not a good 3pt threat which really hurt his game. I honestly think he would of been a better fit as a SF.

[LAZERUSS]

Hi guys first post here :)

I don't feel like you can judge Wade by this metric, he's a really good hustle player that isn't very selfish on the court. He has a great FG% and very good assist numbers for a SG, I think its also very unique for him as a SG to only have one season above 20 attempts per game and he had a 50 FG% that year also.

I don't think he is the perfect player though he does have some flaws. He's injury prone, I don't like his FT% and not a good 3pt threat which really hurt his game. I honestly think he would of been a better fit as a SF.

Basically a career loser without Lechoke.

[Steven Kerry]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[aj1987]

Basically a career loser without Lechoke.
So "Lechoke" teamed up with a career loser and the career loser has a better win percentage than Ilt?

That's it. Ilt is borderline top 30 all time now.

[warriorfan]

op never got out of 1st grade

[LAZERUSS]

So "Lechoke" teamed up with a career loser and the career loser has a better win percentage than Ilt?

That's it. Ilt is borderline top 30 all time now.

No, the career loser is a bus-rider who lost the '11 Finals with a horrific choke job in the clinching game six loss, and was a bus-rider in their '13 Finals, and contributed nothing in their '14 blowout series loss.

Take away Lechoke, and Wade is...a career loser.

[aj1987]

No, the career loser is a bus-rider who lost the '11 Finals with a horrific choke job in the clinching game six loss, and was a bus-rider in their '13 Finals, and contributed nothing in their '14 blowout series loss.
3/5 >>>>>>>>>>>> 2/7

Deal with that, Chokerlain lover.


Take away Lechoke, and Wade is...a career loser.
Cool. 3/5 still destroys Ilt's 2/7.

[Nilocon165]

3/5 >>>>>>>>>>>> 2/7

Deal with that, Chokerlain lover.


Cool. 3/5 still destroys Ilt's 2/7.
Who's better Kobe or lebron? You seem to hate them both

[LAZERUSS]

3/5 >>>>>>>>>>>> 2/7

Deal with that, Chokerlain lover.


Cool. 3/5 still destroys Ilt's 2/7.

Wade...never considered the best player in his own era, and in fact, was often an afterthought. Wilt...by far, the best player of his era.

Oh, and the Record Book confirms just who the GOAT really was.

BTW, what was MJ without Pippen?
Kareem without Magic?
Lebron without Laurel and Hardy?

[GrapeApe]

No, the career loser is a bus-rider who lost the '11 Finals with a horrific choke job in the clinching game six loss, and was a bus-rider in their '13 Finals, and contributed nothing in their '14 blowout series loss.

Take away Lechoke, and Wade is...a career loser.

A career loser who won a championship and FMVP in his 3rd season?

Wade averaged 27/7/5/2/2 on 55% in the 2011 finals and was obviously great up until the game 5 injury. The Heat probably sweep that series if Lebron didn't inexplicably vanish.

In 2013 that "bus-rider" averaged 20/5/4/2/1 on 48% in the finals including 24/6/5/2/2 in games 4-7 and 23/10 on 52% in game 7.

In 2014 he sucked, but it wouldn't have made a difference if he didn't.

[PJR]

D.Wade :applause:

Too easy passing up that closet fa990t Wilt

[LAZERUSS]

A career loser who won a championship and FMVP in his 3rd season?

Wade averaged 27/7/5/2/2 on 55% in the 2011 finals and was obviously great up until the game 5 injury. The Heat probably sweep that series if Lebron didn't inexplicably vanish.

In 2013 that "bus-rider" averaged 20/5/4/2/1 on 48% in the finals including 24/6/5/2/2 in games 4-7 and 23/10 on 52% in game 7.

In 2014 he sucked, but it wouldn't have mattered if he didn't.

Wade vanished in the clinching game six in '11. If other greats get ripped for doing far more, than he most certainly should.

He shot horribly in game six of the '13 Finals. In fact, had Allen not hit that shot, he and Lechoke would be minus a ring.

And again, contributed nothing in the '14 Finals (or post-season for that matter.) How important was Wade to the Heat when Lebron was there? The Heat went 47-18 in the games he missed.

I'll give him '06.

[Smoke117]

...A wilt stan talking about another player being a career loser...

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/dwyane-wade.gif

[Wade's Rings]

A career loser who won a championship and FMVP in his 3rd season?

Wade averaged 27/7/5/2/2 on 55% in the 2011 finals and was obviously great up until the game 5 injury. The Heat probably sweep that series if Lebron didn't inexplicably vanish.

In 2013 that "bus-rider" averaged 20/5/4/2/1 on 48% in the finals including 24/6/5/2/2 in games 4-7 and 23/10 on 52% in game 7.

In 2014 he sucked, but it wouldn't have made a difference if he didn't.

Lazzeruss is bias and stupid. He just says what he wants to fit his argument and when he's wrong he'll just deflect or cherry pick stats. Also, has 0 context in his posts.

[aj1987]

Wade...never considered the best player in his own era, and in fact, was often an afterthought. Wilt...by far, the best player of his era.
3/5 >>>>>>>>> 2/7

Ilt Chokerlain... :roll:


Oh, and the Record Book confirms just who the GOAT really was.
Almost literally everyone considers that era to be a joke. No one even bothers with stats from that era though.

Oh, and another Ilt record. 30 in the RS, 22 in the PO's, and 18 in the Finals. GOAT Choker.


BTW, what was MJ without Pippen?
Won 6. Ilt with a shit ton of HOF'ers = 2/7.


Kareem without Magic?
Won 6. Ilt with a shit ton of HOF'ers = 2/7.


Lebron without Laurel and Hardy?
LeBron didn't play with Ilt doe.

[GrapeApe]

Wade vanished in the clinching game six in '11. If other greats get ripped for doing far more, than he most certainly should.

He shot horribly in game six of the '13 Finals. In fact, had Allen not hit that shot, he and Lechoke would be minus a ring.

And again, contributed nothing in the '14 Finals (or post-season for that matter.) How important was Wade to the Heat when Lebron was there? The Heat went 47-18 in the games he missed.

I'll give him '06.

Wade was clearly not 100% in game 6 of 2011. If you want to hold the durability issues against him, fine, but he played well enough overall in that series to win. He was up and down at times in the 2013 finals, but his game 4 performance saved the series and he came up big in game 7. In the 2014 ECF he averaged 20/5/4 on 55%. He was really good in that series, which admittedly makes his finals even more disappointing. I still believe that the "maintenance plan" was the primary culprit. He looked gassed in the finals.

BTW, I've never once claimed or even suggested that Wade is better than Wilt. I have Wilt in the "big 4" along with Jordan, Kareem, and Russell.

[sd3035]

Ilt choked so bad during one Finals that he had a teammate who won FMVP and still couldn't get a ring :lol

[Lebronxrings]

huge wade fan but this is sort of true.

[Wade's Rings]

Ilt choked so bad during one Finals that he had a teammate who won FMVP and still couldn't get a ring :lol

He was the 5th leading scorer in his 1967 Title and the 3rd in his 1972 Title :oldlol:

[BasketballLove]

Basically a career loser without Lechoke.

I think thats a little too harsh, in 13 years in the league he has only 2 seasons where his team was under .500, he's also been a starter on that team since he was drafted.

I think he deserves props for riding it out with Miami all these years, up or down he's stuck it out. Its hard to expect a team to always be good :)

[tpols]

Lazzeruss is bias and stupid. He just says what he wants to fit his argument and when he's wrong he'll just deflect or cherry pick stats. Also, has 0 context in his posts.

i mean.. hes right that wilt is > wade in pretty much every aspect (peak, prime, career), but you guys somehow disagree?

[greatest-ever]

Op i think you need to worry about Curry's health.

[plowking]

How are you not the 1st option if you take the most shots and score the most points, both in the playoffs so far, and for the entire season?

Dragic is the 6th best player on the team. You can't be a 1st option if you're the 6th best player.

[Wade's Rings]

i mean.. hes right that wilt is > wade in pretty much every aspect (peak, prime, career), but you guys somehow disagree?

Did you not read his last post to grapeape?

He said Wade vanished in Game 6 of the '11 Finals, completely ignoring that Wade was hurt and completely ignoring his great play through the 1st 5 Games.

He said Wade shot horribly in Game 6 of the '13 Finals, what about Game 4? Game 5? Game 7? nah just game 6.

He said Wade contributed nothing in the '14 Finals (not fully true), and nothing in the '14 Playoffs. Let's ignore the fact that he put up 19/4/4 on 52% throught the 1st 3 rounds.

Then he says Wade wasn't valuable to the Heat because they went 47-18 without him with 0 context. Shaq's 90s teams went 56-31 without him was he not valuable to them? Kobe had a poor record sans Shaq during their time together was he not valuable?

[Dresta]

No, the career loser is a bus-rider who lost the '11 Finals with a horrific choke job in the clinching game six loss, and was a bus-rider in their '13 Finals, and contributed nothing in their '14 blowout series loss.

Take away Lechoke, and Wade is...a career loser.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306130SAS.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306200MIA.html

Yeah, "bus-rider" :rolleyes:

Now **** off, and go watch and fap to grainy videos of your long dead hero (PEDs) choking at the ft line and clanking away with one robotic post move after another.

[Wade's Rings]

How are you not the 1st option if you take the most shots and score the most points, both in the playoffs so far, and for the entire season?

Dragic is the 6th best player on the team. You can't be a 1st option if you're the 6th best player.

He's also their best playmaker and passer.

[Mean Joe Bean]

Shaq was not the #1 option ever in his Heat years. Look at who lead the team in scoring, minutes, field goal attempts, it's Wade and not even close. So moronic.

[plowking]

He's also their best playmaker and passer.

True. Dragic is actually one of the worst passers at the point guard position.

[Dray n Klay]

True. Dragic is actually one of the worst passers at the point guard position.


Umm, have you ever seen Kyrie play??

[tpols]

Did you not read his last post to grapeape?

He said Wade vanished in Game 6 of the '11 Finals, completely ignoring that Wade was hurt and completely ignoring his great play through the 1st 5 Games.

He said Wade shot horribly in Game 6 of the '13 Finals, what about Game 4? Game 5? Game 7? nah just game 6.

He said Wade contributed nothing in the '14 Finals (not fully true), and nothing in the '14 Playoffs. Let's ignore the fact that he put up 19/4/4 on 52% throught the 1st 3 rounds.

Then he says Wade wasn't valuable to the Heat because they went 47-18 without him with 0 context. Shaq's 90s teams went 56-31 without him was he not valuable to them? Kobe had a poor record sans Shaq during their time together was he not valuable?

and look at all the arguments being levied against wilt.. theyre just as exagerrated.

[G-train]

Why is OP allowed to post threads?

[LAZERUSS]

Wade was clearly not 100% in game 6 of 2011. If you want to hold the durability issues against him, fine, but he played well enough overall in that series to win. He was up and down at times in the 2013 finals, but his game 4 performance saved the series and he came up big in game 7. In the 2014 ECF he averaged 20/5/4 on 55%. He was really good in that series, which admittedly makes his finals even more disappointing. I still believe that the "maintenance plan" was the primary culprit. He looked gassed in the finals.

BTW, I've never once claimed or even suggested that Wade is better than Wilt. I have Wilt in the "big 4" along with Jordan, Kareem, and Russell.

Wade has been a great player. If there are those that rank him #27, I have no problem with it.

But, there are also those that go over-board with his career as well.

'06 Finals. Arguably even more controversial than the '02 WCF's. Why? Because the '02 series was not fixed for either team, but rather, to go to seven games. The officiating in the '06 Finals has been ripped ad nauseum for years. In any case, I have given Wade his "due" in that series.

'11. Forget the game six meltdown. The real problem...Wade couldn't carry the Heat as the first option. Lebron gets blamed, but as anyone that watched that entire season unfold would know...the team didn't have a true leader. Ultimately, Lebron didn't know his role, and Wade couldn't get it done. Riley addressed it right after the season, and Lebron was put in the role of the leader. From that point on, it was Lebron's team...and it paid off well, with two rings in the next three seasons.

'12. Clearly Lebron carried this team. Granted, Wade played well for the most part, but make no mistake, it was LBJ that led that team.

'13. Wade's play was nothing sensational. Granted, he was nowhere near his prime, either. But what is often overlooked is just how much he choked in that game six. He was awful...at both ends. Again, had Allen not hit that shot, and both Wade and Lebron have one less ring. BUT, just like Lebron was roasted in '11, it would have been Wade getting ripped in '13.

'14. Just awful...at both ends. But even Lebron's stats, which were arguably the best Finals of his career in terms of stats...were meaningless. The Spurs controlled that series at both ends, and it honestly looked like the Heat were statues on the defensive end. NO one played well defensively. But again, Wade was pathetic.

'15. Well, we saw what we knew we had seen. That the Heat, without Lebron, were a lousy team. Think about this...since Lebron left, the Heat basically replaced him with Deng, Dragic, and Whiteside...and still had a losing team (and only 28-34 with Wade.) Geezus...Whiteside was a HUGE upgrade over the clowns that Lebron had in Miami. Then, this year they added Joe Johnson...and the result...a 48-34 team. Which has been considerably worse than the 54-28 team that went to the Finals in Lebron's last year in Miami. Granted...injuries have played a role, but interestingly...what I call the "Bosh Effect"...teams play better without Bosh, than with him. This year was no exception.

And one more time...in Lebron's four years in Miami...the Heat went 47-18 in the games Wade missed.

[LAZERUSS]

I think thats a little too harsh, in 13 years in the league he has only 2 seasons where his team was under .500, he's also been a starter on that team since he was drafted.

I think he deserves props for riding it out with Miami all these years, up or down he's stuck it out. Its hard to expect a team to always be good :)

Agreed,

See my post above.

[sportjames23]

2004- Caron Butler/ Odom

2005-2006- Shaq

2011-2014- LeBron

2016- Dragic/Deng



Discuss

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[Wade's Rings]

'11. Forget the game six meltdown. The real problem...Wade couldn't carry the Heat as the first option. Lebron gets blamed, but as anyone that watched that entire season unfold would know...the team didn't have a true leader. Ultimately, Lebron didn't know his role, and Wade couldn't get it done. Riley addressed it right after the season, and Lebron was put in the role of the leader. From that point on, it was Lebron's team...and it paid off well, with two rings in the next three seasons.

You're a troll but I'll take the bait. If Wade couldn't carry the Heat as a 1st option why did they win the 1st round and 2nd round vs Philly and Boston when he was the teams best player? Also, you're quick to throw Wilt's teammates under the bus ignore Bron's pathetic 3 ppg on 33% shooting in the 4th quarters throughout the series, also since Wade "melted down" in Game 6 why didn't Bron step up and win us the Game? He "carried" the Heat in the coming years but with the Title on the line he couldn't do it? :oldlol:


'13. Wade's play was nothing sensational. Granted, he was nowhere near his prime, either. But what is often overlooked is just how much he choked in that game six. He was awful...at both ends. Again, had Allen not hit that shot, and both Wade and Lebron have one less ring. BUT, just like Lebron was roasted in '11, it would have been Wade getting ripped in '13.

With the series tied 2-2 and a chance to go up 3-2, Wade drops 25/4/10 on 45%, where was the guy who "carried" him then? How about game 4 with the Heat down 2-1? He drops 32/6/4/6 on 56%.


'15. Well, we saw what we knew we had seen. That the Heat, without Lebron, were a lousy team. Think about this...since Lebron left, the Heat basically replaced him with Deng, Dragic, and Whiteside...and still had a losing team. Geezus...Whiteside was a HUGE upgrade over the clowns that Lebron had in Miami. Then, this year they added Joe Johnson...and the result...a 48-34 team. Which has been considerably worse than the 54-28 team that went to the Finals in Lebron's last year in Miami. Granted...injuries have played a role, but interestingly...what I call the "Bosh Effect"...teams play better without Bosh, than with him. This year was no exception.

Deng didn't play great at all last year, Dragic was added in after the All-Star break, Whiteside wasn't even part of the rotation till mid/late January and he didn't even play starters minutes until after the All-Star break and still missed games due to injury/suspension. Bron's replacements played mostly after the All-Star break. :oldlol:

Joe Johnson was added February 27th, he really turned us into a 48 win team. :oldlol:


And one more time...in Lebron's four years in Miami...the Heat went 47-18 in the games Wade missed.

In the Games Wade played without Bron he faced 50+ and 60+ win teams, what's Bron's record vs these teams?

[SouBeachTalents]

Basically a career loser without Lechoke.

Wade won a title & Finals MVP his third season in the league, a feat many of the greatest players of all time like Malone, Barkley, Baylor etc failed to accomplish during their entire careers. To call a player with the playoff resume of Wade a "career loser" is truly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this site. Especially considering he won a title without LeBron, while LeBron has failed to do the same without Wade

[riseagainst]

2011 and 2016. OP got rekt.

:roll:

[LilEddyCurry]

2011 and 2016. OP got rekt.

:roll:
Actually LeBron was the first option in 2011 except in the finals. Wade made it past the first time twice with Shaq and Wade was the first option during those times.

[golden24boy]

OP never was and never will be girls 1st option :no:

[Chokefree]

OP never was and never will be girls 1st option :no:
Or even their last option.....I bet they'd rather use their fingers instead...:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

OP is the punching bag if ISH :roll:

[Gileraracer]

Actually LeBron was the first option in 2011 except in the finals. Wade made it past the first time twice with Shaq and Wade was the first option during those times.

Everyone wants a first option like that

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/2011-nba-final-miami-heat-dallas-mavericks-lebron-james.jpg

[Paul George 24]

Basically a career loser without Lechoke.
LECHOKE NO RING WITHOUT WADE

[HiphopRelated]

And one more time...in Lebron's four years in Miami...the Heat went 47-18 in the games Wade missed.
They rested Wade vs shit squads a lot of the time

[ballinhun8]

Best player from the 2003 class.


No one really comes close.

[miggyme1]

wade's career IMO will go down as one of the most underated or overrated depending on who you talk to.


people have him as the 3rd greatest sg of all time behind mj and kobe.

top 20 all time in playoff scoring

3 rings potentially one more before its all said and done yet......idk.....a lot of people outside of Miami don't feel like wade was or is one of the greatest to ever do it.

just seems like he had one of the shortest primes in nba history WITHOUT a major injury. It was like one season he was on Lebrons/mj level and the next he was just a really good player but nothing he did WOW'D YOU. strange career indeed

[Dresta]

wade's career IMO will go down as one of the most underated or overrated depending on who you talk to.


people have him as the 3rd greatest sg of all time behind mj and kobe.

top 20 all time in playoff scoring

3 rings potentially one more before its all said and done yet......idk.....a lot of people outside of Miami don't feel like wade was or is one of the greatest to ever do it.

just seems like he had one of the shortest primes in nba history WITHOUT a major injury. It was like one season he was on Lebrons/mj level and the next he was just a really good player but nothing he did WOW'D YOU. strange career indeed
He hasn't had a meniscus in one of his knees since he first entered the league, and basically lost two seasons of his prime to injury (06-07 and 07-08); he lost another two seasons of his prime (competing wise) playing for a team unwilling to sign anyone so they could hit the home run in 2010 free agency, which ended up with 2 titles and 4 finals appearances, and yet mindless trolls and morons like that Wilt ********** over there, still hold his not advancing in the playoffs those years against him (09 and 10).

[miggyme1]

He hasn't had a meniscus in one of his knees since he first entered the league, and basically lost two seasons of his prime to injury (06-07 and 07-08); he lost another two seasons of his prime (competing wise) playing for a team unwilling to sign anyone so they could hit the home run in 2010 free agency, which ended up with 2 titles and 4 finals appearances, and yet mindless trolls and morons like that Wilt ********** over there, still hold his not advancing in the playoffs those years against him (09 and 10).


true to an extent but the heat completely failed in the 08 draft. That would have been the beginning of the end of wades career. Thank God he is good friends with LeBron. lol

[jrong]

Actually LeBron was the first option in 2011 except in the finals.

False. By definition, neither were ever "first options" in 2011. Whichever one had it going in a game would lead the team in that game.

If you are defining "first option" as best performer, then it was LeBron against the Sixers, Wade against the Celtics, LeBron against the Bulls and Wade against the Mavs.

.... This is a total troll thread, but for the record, Wade has been the alpha on five playoff teams that have advanced beyond the first round: 04, 05, 06, 11 (co-alpha) and 16.

[Jacks3]

lol @ Wade being the current alpha on this Heat team. He wasn't even one of their two best players in the first round.

Wade: 19/5/5/1 on crappy efficiency (51% TS/105 ORTG)
Deng: 19/7/2 on incredible efficiency (69% TS/129 ORTG)
Whiteside: 13/11 on incredible efficiency (69% TS/130 ORTG)

"Alpha". Get the **** outta here. :oldlol:

[jrong]

lol @ Wade being the current alpha on this Heat team. He wasn't even one of their two best players in the first round.

Wade: 19/5/5/1 on crappy efficiency (51% TS/105 ORTG)
Deng: 19/7/2 on incredible efficiency (69% TS/129 ORTG)
Whiteside: 13/11 on incredible efficiency (69% TS/130 ORTG)

"Alpha". Get the **** outta here. :oldlol:

Game 6.

* Drops mic *

[Wade's Rings]

lol @ Wade being the current alpha on this Heat team. He wasn't even one of their two best players in the first round.

Wade: 19/5/5/1 on crappy efficiency (51% TS/105 ORTG)
Deng: 19/7/2 on incredible efficiency (69% TS/129 ORTG)
Whiteside: 13/11 on incredible efficiency (69% TS/130 ORTG)

"Alpha". Get the **** outta here. :oldlol:

Let's ignore the fact that he didn't have to play much minutes because 3 of the games were blowouts, he created a lot of the offense for his teammates and especially a guy like Hassan, and his clutch performance in Game 6 to avoid elimination. You just keep embarrassing yourself now. :oldlol: