George Karl Comments on DeMarcus Cousins and Tenure with Sacramento Kings

[Im Still Ballin]

Over the last two years, perhaps no coach in basketball has undergone more turmoil than George Karl. He was hired amid controversy at last year's All-Star break, nearly fired after just 30 games and faced constant rumors about his job status before finally being let go in April.

At the center of most of the controversy was Karl's relationship (or lack thereof) with star DeMarcus Cousins. In a wide-ranging interview with Ailene Voisin of the Sacramento Bee, Karl admitted he never clicked with Cousins and took part of the blame.

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Karl says part of the reason is the Kings front office isn't committed to building a well-rounded team around Cousins:

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This is what happens when you treat a Dennis Rodman personality as a franchise player/superstar

This is what happens when you treat a career loser as a superstar

[Edgar Friendly]

That Cousins, what a monkey

[Foster5k]

Why is this news? We all knew it was a bad hire from the start. The writing was on the wall.

[JohnMax]

This is what happens when you treat a Dennis Rodman personality as a franchise player/superstar

The best description of Demarcus Cousins that I have ever seen.

[90sgoat]

Pathetic short sighted money grabbing ownership ruin teams.

These owners have no idea of how to run a basketball club they see it as entertainment, as a circus show, they don't care about how the locker room works or to build a culture of winning, they just care that they have flashy guys on the court to put ass in the seats and sell commercials.

They don't realize there are more ways to sell tickets, people like to see underdogs putting it all on the line every night, people like to see young players trying to win against the odds, they want to see effort and fight, they want to see teammates coming together as a group and playing one for all, all for one.

[nathanjizzle]

cousins is a chimp

[Done_And_Done]

This is what happens when you crown a bonifide baby and fail to surround him with vets and managerial figures who can nurture that child. It's truly a shame that somebody with so much God given talent can't get out of their own damn way. Cousins is an entitled infant who found himself in the worst situation possible.

The problem is, (as mentioned above) he's just so God damn talented that it's made it extremely difficult for anyone in charge to part ways with him.

[Thunderfan86]

What's with all the racism? :confusedshrug:

[GINOBILI!]

I'm on Karl's side. Kings giving into Cousins being a baby is the main reason that organization has been trash. Cousins having the power will not be a playoff team. He can be on a playoff team, but the coach has to be the leader, not Cousins.

[billbrasky87]

Cousins is talanted, but you probably will never win with a guy like him. Just like James Harden.

[Done_And_Done]

Cousins is talanted, but you probably will never win with a guy like him. Just like James Harden.

I disagree to an extent.

I'm of the belief that you could win with him if he's surrounded by a number of character guys (take no shit vets) and a coach/GM who won't placate to his infantile shtick.

[Duderonomy]

The best description of Demarcus Cousins that I have ever seen.
Rodman cared about winning and fit into the team concept he just needed a strong coach that could teach him and keep him in line. Daly was a father figure to Dennis and he respected Phil who was a bit of eccentric himself. I can't say Demarcus will ever have to potential to be a multiple time champion unless he goes to Miami Heat type organization. Letting the inmates run the asylum will keep the Queen's in the lottery for years to come. Karl was put in a losing situation.

[HurricaneKid]

cousins is a chimp



That Cousins, what a monkey


This is why this site is a considered a joke.

Just because you CAN say anything, doesn't mean you SHOULD say anything. And these types of comments should be instantly get posters banned from any site with a modicum of moderation.

Until this site makes it clear there are at least SOME boundaries, I'll just keep on expanding my really really long ignore list.

Edgar is just an alias. But I expected more from you Nathan.

[hold this L]

What's with all the racism? :confusedshrug:
I think they are probably addressing his monkey rant. Chinese New Year this year was Monkey, and they started selling year of the monkey shirts on the first of Feb. Cousins then complained and called it racism because apparently monkey can only be used as a racist insult for black people. :facepalm The organization then proceeded to pull all the shirts because Cousins is a fcking moron.

[miggyme1]

This is what happens when you treat a Dennis Rodman personality as a franchise player/superstar

This is what happens when you treat a career loser as a superstar


dennis rodman????? that's a horrible comparison


dennis was quiet and shy in Detroit.....got traded to the spurs and was a little wild but never got into any trouble there

Went to Chicago and that was his "wild years" but he was never a detriment to the bulls....helped them 3peat.



get your facts straight. if you wanna compare cousins to somebody try derrick coleman.

[Im Still Ballin]

Rodman cared about winning and fit into the team concept he just needed a strong coach that could teach him and keep him in line. Daly was a father figure to Dennis and he respected Phil who was a bit of eccentric himself. I can't say Demarcus will ever have to potential to be a multiple time champion unless he goes to Miami Heat type organization. Letting the inmates run the asylum will keep the Queen's in the lottery for years to come. Karl was put in a losing situation.
I mean it as more of an erratic off center personality like Rodman, being the number one option which is naturally the leader of the team. The problem I see is Cousins isn't a leader, but is in that position of the team. He's thus held the franchise and Vivek hostage, being catered to like he's Lebron, when his resume and results suggest anything otherwise. Closer to Derrick Coleman honestly.

[Born Sinner]

Queens. Sacremento is full of career losers

[Im Still Ballin]

dennis rodman????? that's a horrible comparison


dennis was quiet and shy in Detroit.....got traded to the spurs and was a little wild but never got into any trouble there

Went to Chicago and that was his "wild years" but he was never a detriment to the bulls....helped them 3peat.



get your facts straight. if you wanna compare cousins to somebody try derrick coleman.
Are you a Kings fan? Do you follow the team and Demarcus every day like I do?

That wild shit would be a detriment if he was the leader of the team. But he wasn't. Because those types of personalities aren't leaders. That's the point. Cousins is not a leader. His personality is not compatible.

[Im Still Ballin]

The leader sets the culture for the team. Cousins sucks the air out of a team as a leader. The same would be said if Rodman were the leader of his team... That wild shit would set the standard and culture, the rest would follow suite. Use whatever erratic personality comparison you want. The point is those types are not leaders. You can't have them leading and setting the culture. Cousins is a ticking time bomb every day of the year and can go off at any time. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. He can't handle the adversity... And EVERY team faces it through the season. Even the 73-9 Warriors.

[Tarik One]

This is why this site is a considered a joke.

Just because you CAN say anything, doesn't mean you SHOULD say anything. And these types of comments should be instantly get posters banned from any site with a modicum of moderation.

Until this site makes it clear there are at least SOME boundaries, I'll just keep on expanding my really really long ignore list.

Edgar is just an alias. But I expected more from you Nathan.
There is nothing racist about referring to someone as a chimp. Ever heard the saying: "chimp with a machine gun?". That's probably what he was alluding to....and that's a perfect description of Cousins.

[Edgar Friendly]

What's with all the racism?

This is why this site is a considered a joke.

Just because you CAN say anything, doesn't mean you SHOULD say anything. And these types of comments should be instantly get posters banned from any site with a modicum of moderation.

Until this site makes it clear there are at least SOME boundaries, I'll just keep on expanding my really really long ignore list.

Edgar is just an alias. But I expected more from you Nathan.

Damn you people are stupid. :oldlol:

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Deal with it!

[LukeWalton]

it would be funny if they got rid of both Karl and Cousins.
like Orlando firing SVG because of Dwight, then losing Dwight right after

[miggyme1]

Are you a Kings fan? Do you follow the team and Demarcus every day like I do?

That wild shit would be a detriment if he was the leader of the team. But he wasn't. Because those types of personalities aren't leaders. That's the point. Cousins is not a leader. His personality is not compatible.


AGAIN.................cousins/rodman is a HORRIBLE comparison...I don't care if you live with divac or if you are married to cousins. Did you follow rodman throughout his whole career???? EXACTLY


the comparison you are looking for is cousins/derrick coleman. Now go do your research before you want compare two totally different people.

RODMAN WAS NEVER A DETRIMENT TO HIS TEAMS.....HE WAS JUST A DIFFERENT DUDE

[billbrasky87]

I disagree to an extent.

I'm of the belief that you could win with him if he's surrounded by a number of character guys (take no shit vets) and a coach/GM who won't placate to his infantile shtick.

Other than San Antonio what team really has that though? Players have too much leeway now and players like Cousins don't get put in their place anymore. Just look at Houston. They fired McHale after like 12 games. The Spurs have that veteran leadership and coach and GM, but I can't think of another team that has that. Miami kind of does but thats two teams out of 30. LAC?

I understand that Cousins probably put up the stats he currently does and win if put in the right situation, but now a days that just doesn't happen to stars anymore.

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AGAIN.................cousins/rodman is a HORRIBLE comparison...I don't care if you live with divac or if you are married to cousins. Did you follow rodman throughout his whole career???? EXACTLY


the comparison you are looking for is cousins/derrick coleman. Now go do your research before you want compare two totally different people.

RODMAN WAS NEVER A DETRIMENT TO HIS TEAMS.....HE WAS JUST A DIFFERENT DUDE
It's not about the specific comparison moron

How would you know how Rodman would act like in Cousins' position

How would you know how Cousins would act like in Rodman's position

Answer: You don't

I don't

Because Dennis has never been in the position of a team leader, a first option... And vice versa for Demarcus

But I do know the word "erratic" and Dennis Rodman goes hand in hand

And that word also happens to go hand in hand with Demarcus Cousins

Cousins is an erratic personality in a leaders position

That's the point, and that's the problem

Put Rodman in that same leaders position, you'd probably find we'd be talking about how big of a cancer he is just like we are now with Cousins

Owned

[Tarik One]

Other than San Antonio what team really has that though? Players have too much leeway now and players like Cousins don't get put in their place anymore. Just look at Houston. They fired McHale after like 12 games. The Spurs have that veteran leadership and coach and GM, but I can't think of another team that has that. Miami kind of does but thats two teams out of 30. LAC?

I understand that Cousins probably put up the stats he currently does and win if put in the right situation, but now a days that just doesn't happen to stars anymore.
Until Cousins "gets it", there will never be a right situation. Spurs leadership and culture is not going to rub off on him and get him to make some miraculous change. A knucklehead remains a knucklehead unless he himself decides to change.

[Steven Kerry]

Karl deserves better. Kings are a mess.

[Steven Kerry]

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I love the user name :lol

[miggyme1]

It's not about the specific comparison moron

How would you know how Rodman would act like in Cousins' position

How would you know how Cousins would act like in Rodman's position

Answer: You don't

I don't

Because Dennis has never been in the position of a team leader, a first option... And vice versa for Demarcus

But I do know the word "erratic" and Dennis Rodman goes hand in hand

And that word also happens to go hand in hand with Demarcus Cousins

Cousins is an erratic personality in a leaders position

That's the point, and that's the problem

Put Rodman in that same leaders position, you'd probably find we'd be talking about how big of a cancer he is just like we are now with Cousins

Owned


FOR THE LAST TIME......

cousins/rodman is a TERRIBLE comparison. of course you are too dumb to realize that and will blindly believe what you say/think makes sense. Dennis won rings or came close to winning rings at just about every team he played for and is in the hall of fame. Demarcus cousins has accomplished NOTHING at this point in his career. Dennis already had two rings.


The comparison your dumb azz is looking for is like I said........COUSINS/DERRICK COLEMAN




OWNED.

[Im Still Ballin]

What does his career have anything to do with this? Besides, that still supports my conclusion

Was Rodman ever in DMC's position? No

Erratic personalities are tolerated when they are below other players on their team

At no point in Rodman's career was he the lead dog of his team

That's the whole point I'm trying to ram through your skull

Demarcus is an example of what happens when you have someone of erratic personality (Like Dennis Rodman) as lead dog/1st option/leader

Sure their individual talents are different, but they both hail from the same mold of erratic temperaments

Hence: Neither are fit to be leaders of a team

I WIN.

[aarondk88]

everyone knows george karl got a raw deal. honestly he was foolish to even take the position.

[Im Still Ballin]

I imagine they probably promised him a lot more control then they eventually gave him

I mean, that's the type of respect you should show a hall of fame coach who has a 90% playoffs qualify rate over nearly 30 seasons

[Draz]

Coaches should have full power. That franchise is pathetic.

[miggyme1]

What does his career have anything to do with this? Besides, that still supports my conclusion

Was Rodman ever in DMC's position? No

Erratic personalities are tolerated when they are below other players on their team

At no point in Rodman's career was he the lead dog of his team

That's the whole point I'm trying to ram through your skull

Demarcus is an example of what happens when you have someone of erratic personality (Like Dennis Rodman) as lead dog/1st option/leader

Sure their individual talents are different, but they both hail from the same mold of erratic temperaments

Hence: Neither are fit to be leaders of a team

I WIN.

WAS RODMAN EVER PROJECTED TO BE A TOP DOG/SAVIOR OF A FRANCHISE???? NO DUMMY


AGAIN......FOR THE FOURTH TIME


THE COMPARISON YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS COUSINS/DERRICK COLEMAN

YOU STILL LOSING


ILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER DUMB COMPARISON POST. CONTINUE

[Im Still Ballin]

WAS RODMAN EVER PROJECTED TO BE A TOP DOG/SAVIOR OF A FRANCHISE???? NO DUMMY


AGAIN......FOR THE FOURTH TIME


THE COMPARISON YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS COUSINS/DERRICK COLEMAN

YOU STILL LOSING


ILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER DUMB COMPARISON POST. CONTINUE
YO HOMIE

THAT'S THE POINT OF THE HYPOTHETICAL

I'M SAYING DEMARCUS AS THE LEADER OF THE KINGS IS LIKE IF DENNIS RODMAN WERE THE LEADER OF HIS TEAM... THEY ARE DIFFERENT PLAYERS, BUT THEY BOTH HAVE ERRATIC PERSONALITIES THAT DO NOT FIT THE MOLD OF A LEADER

I WIN BROSEPH

NOT TO MENTION I LITERALLY MENTIONED DERRICK COLEMAN ESSENTIALLY AS YOU FIRST POSTED IN THIS THREAD... AND I QUOTE MYSELF FROM POST 19 IN THIS THREAD;

I mean it as more of an erratic off center personality like Rodman, being the number one option which is naturally the leader of the team. The problem I see is Cousins isn't a leader, but is in that position of the team. He's thus held the franchise and Vivek hostage, being catered to like he's Lebron, when his resume and results suggest anything otherwise. Closer to Derrick Coleman honestly.

STEP DOWN UCE'

I WIN

[miggyme1]

YO HOMIE

THAT'S THE POINT OF THE HYPOTHETICAL

I'M SAYING DEMARCUS AS THE LEADER OF THE KINGS IS LIKE IF DENNIS RODMAN WERE THE LEADER OF HIS TEAM... THEY ARE DIFFERENT PLAYERS, BUT THEY BOTH HAVE ERRATIC PERSONALITIES THAT DO NOT FIT THE MOLD OF A LEADER

I WIN BROSEPH

NOT TO MENTION I LITERALLY MENTIONED DERRICK COLEMAN ESSENTIALLY AS YOU FIRST POSTED IN THIS THREAD... AND I QUOTE MYSELF FROM POST 19 IN THIS THREAD;


STEP DOWN UCE'

I WIN


AGAIN.....RODMAN AND COUSINS ARE NOTHING ALIKE. IM NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND LET YOU LIE JUST TO FIT YOUR NARRATIVE.

THEY WERE COMPLETELY TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON AND OFF THE COURT.

AGAIN......FOR THE FIFTH TIME......THE COMPARISON YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS COUSINS/DERRICK COLEMAN

IM WAITING FOR ANOTHER IDIOTIC COMPARISON POST

[Im Still Ballin]

WAS RODMAN EVER PROJECTED TO BE A TOP DOG/SAVIOR OF A FRANCHISE???? NO DUMMY


AGAIN......FOR THE FOURTH TIME


THE COMPARISON YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS COUSINS/DERRICK COLEMAN

YOU STILL LOSING


ILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER DUMB COMPARISON POST. CONTINUE
YO HOMIE

THAT'S THE POINT OF THE HYPOTHETICAL

I'M SAYING DEMARCUS AS THE LEADER OF THE KINGS IS LIKE IF DENNIS RODMAN WERE THE LEADER OF HIS TEAM... THEY ARE DIFFERENT PLAYERS, BUT THEY BOTH HAVE ERRATIC PERSONALITIES THAT DO NOT FIT THE MOLD OF A LEADER

I WIN BROSEPH

NOT TO MENTION I LITERALLY MENTIONED DERRICK COLEMAN ESSENTIALLY AS YOU FIRST POSTED IN THIS THREAD... AND I QUOTE MYSELF FROM POST 19 IN THIS THREAD;

I mean it as more of an erratic off center personality like Rodman, being the number one option which is naturally the leader of the team. The problem I see is Cousins isn't a leader, but is in that position of the team. He's thus held the franchise and Vivek hostage, being catered to like he's Lebron, when his resume and results suggest anything otherwise. Closer to Derrick Coleman honestly.

STEP DOWN UCE'

I WIN

[warriorfan]

I think they are probably addressing his monkey rant. Chinese New Year this year was Monkey, and they started selling year of the monkey shirts on the first of Feb. Cousins then complained and called it racism because apparently monkey can only be used as a racist insult for black people. :facepalm The organization then proceeded to pull all the shirts because Cousins is a fcking moron.

Purple Monkeys during Black History Month

if you dont see how this is fucced up then you are straight autistic

[Edgar Friendly]

Purple Monkeys during Black History Month

if you dont see how this is fucced up then you are straight autistic

We are well into the 21st century and some people are still offended by a monkey image. :facepalm


People catching feelings over stupid stuff hold this L. :hammerhead:

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[Duderonomy]

dennis rodman????? that's a horrible comparison


dennis was quiet and shy in Detroit.....got traded to the spurs and was a little wild but never got into any trouble there

Went to Chicago and that was his "wild years" but he was never a detriment to the bulls....helped them 3peat.



get your facts straight. if you wanna compare cousins to somebody try derrick coleman.
Derrick Coleman is a great example. I was thinking Glen Rice but you are right. Just like Coleman he will be irrelevant and never come close to contenting if that's who you build the team around and never say no to.

Ewing could be a good mentor but I also agree with Karl's assessment on the glut of SG. Seth Curry after being in the Kings locker room. http://gifcrap.com/g2data/albums/TV/Fresh%20Prince%20-%20Carlton%20crawls%20across%20the%20floor.gif

[WeGetRing2012]

Karl came in with his nose in the air and with a strong distaste for Cousins. I highly doubt he tried to connect with him at all. And he threw so many players under the bus this year. Karl felt he was more important than Cousins and repeatedly tried to get him traded.

[FreezingTsmoove]

ISB getting slayed hard :lol

That was cringe bro