Debate over. NBA admits missing call for SPURS.

[imnew09]

SAN ANTONIO — In a written statement, lead referee Ken Mauer admitted missing what should have been an offensive foul against the Thunder on a controversial play at the end of OKC’s 98-97 win over the Spurs on Monday night.
Question: Can you explain what the referees saw on the in-bounds play with 13.5 seconds remaining when Dion Waiters appeared to make contact with Manu Ginobili?
Ken Mauer, lead referee: On the floor we did not see a foul on the play. However, upon review we realize and we agree we should have had an offensive foul on the play. It’s a play we’ve never seen before, ever. We should have had an offensive foul on the play.
Question: Had an offensive call been made on Waiters what rule would have applied to a foul committed before throw-in?
Ken Mauer: An offensive foul. Possession Spurs.


Source (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2016/05/03/referees-admit-missing-call-for-spurs/)


These late admitting foul calls just making NBA stupid. Like wtf is the point. Last week, they had the same mistake, but what has changed?

[Mike smith]

It doesn't really matter in the end the Spurs got the ball back and had a 3-1 and just missed the shot

[Bless Mathews]

Make a change.

Go to referee school.

Get in shape.

Ref hella high school games.

Don't make many mistakes.

Then make it to college games.

Be excellent there.

Then make it to the NBA.

And don't miss ANY calls.

Go. Go ahead. NBA refs make good money.

More than flippin burgers.

[kamil]

Manu's foot being on the line voids that call anyway.

HOWEVER...

Refs need to be held accountable. Any stupid blown calls and they should face suspensions or some kind of penalty. Perhaps no rigging for the next 5 games. Oh wait... nevermind.

[Nick Young]

What is stopping the league from doing this right away so the right thing can happen and the final seconds can be replayed?


There is absolutely nothing stopping them from having an official in the sky box who phones in and lets the refs know when they ****ed up and what the right call should be.

I'm sick of shitty refs going in to business for themselves and ruining the end of games.

[LongLiveTheKing]

His foot was on the line

[imnew09]

It doesn't really matter in the end the Spurs got the ball back and had a 3-1 and just missed the shot


So an offensive foul to gain a possession on the last 14 secs when the game is on the line doesn't matter... Okay :facepalm

[G-train]

What is stopping the league from doing this right away so the right thing can happen and the final seconds can be replayed?


There is absolutely nothing stopping them from having an official in the sky box who phones in and lets the refs know when they ****ed up and what the right call should be.

I'm sick of shitty refs going in to business for themselves and ruining the end of games.

Missed calls at any time affect the game.

[Mike smith]

So an offensive foul to gain a possession on the last 14 secs when the game is on the line doesn't matter... Okay :facepalm
The Spurs ended up getting the turnover and had a 3-1 break they could have called there timeout then or done what they did, they just missed the shot. No point in crying about it, when Manu foot was also out of bounds which in the rule book should give them a tech

[navy]

Ginobli flopped

[G-train]

So an offensive foul to gain a possession on the last 14 secs when the game is on the line doesn't matter... Okay :facepalm

It was an error, but the best kind in that it most likely benefited the Spurs.
It happens. Wade didn't get a call on a foul that could have sent game to overtime and Miami could have won series in 6.
This was Game 1 and they still got the ball.
AND
It should have been a violation on Manu prior.

[poido123]

A convenient mistake to keep the series going longer than 4 :oldlol:

[poido123]

Ginobli flopped


The elbow came through. That was clearly a foul.

[imdaman99]

Foot on line but sure let's act like that never happened :lol

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Dudes want us to fail so hard. Makes it so much sweeter when we silence all critics and get #6.

:pimp:

[aj1987]

The elbow came through. That was clearly a foul.
Manu flopped on that play and he was basically on top on Dion.

:roll: :roll: @ the NBA saying that this is a foul and not the one at the end of G5. "Not enough contact". :roll:




http://s32.postimg.org/6npsf6jyt/dwyane_wade_fouled_refs_blow_call.png

[bobopenguin]

Manu flopped on that play and he was basically on top on Dion.

:roll: :roll: @ the NBA saying that this is a foul and not the one at the end of G5. "Not enough contact". :roll:




http://s32.postimg.org/6npsf6jyt/dwyane_wade_fouled_refs_blow_call.png

why dont u post some of bullshit calls on dwhistle from 2006?

[aj1987]

why dont u post some of bullshit calls on dwhistle from 2006?
Sure, retard.


Right here:

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? :rolleyes:

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls committed by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls committed by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything.

Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting team, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.

Quick facts:
--Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
--In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
--Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

[aj1987]

Cont...


Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade_395.jpg

That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:

http://s32.postimg.org/d0iy9vtp1/qr98_Ae1.gif
Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.

http://i6.tinypic.com/14vo5n7.jpg

Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1121/nba_g_wade_600.jpg

Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win. No controversy here

Wade had the best Finals performance in NBA History... Putting the team on his back in the Final 4 games (all wins) and scored over 35 pts per game in each one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-1

^ GREATEST Finals Performance EVER !!

[aj1987]

Cont...

[quote=ImKobe]
The opposing team couldn't stop Wade without fouling, so he exploited that and won his team the game?

They changed the rules to get the scoring back up after the 04 season, handchecking was made illegal. It's why guys like Kobe,Lebron and AI had huge gains in the PPG department in 05-06, they learned how to exploit the new rules that favored the offensive player.

Here's a good post
[quote]From his Blog Maverick weblog, Mark Cuban's article 'If It

[Uncle Drew]

Adam Silver's a real hero, admitting mistakes afterwards when the damage has already been done.

[sportjames23]

Ginobli flopped

And stepped on the line.

Habitually. He's an habitual line-stepper.

[Akhenaten]

It's surreal watching virtually everyone pretend that ginobli wasn't clearly out of bounds prior to anything else happening on that play smh

[ScalsFan21]

Spurs in 5 has been the most obvious thing since we found out this series would be a thing. Some people have to chill about this... bad calls and missed calls happen all the time. If you're in a position where a missed call could cost you a game, you should have played better.

I don't know if Manu's foot was on the line, and yeah it was a clear offensive foul, but the fact that the team DIDN'T call a timeout directly after the steal (which would have set up the exact same scenario that people are saying the Spurs were unfairly robbed of) is indicative of the fact that in that moment, Pop and his players thought playing out a 2 on 1 mini-fast break was the smarter choice, it just didn't work out.

Green's pass in to Mills was a little off, maybe because the defender's height threw him off. But it's not as if the Spurs didn't have a chance after the steal to set up the exact same situation everyone is (rightfully) saying they should have been in.

Bad call, but overreaction and ultimately meaningless since this is the last game the Thunder are getting all series.

[Akhenaten]

I don't know if Manu's foot was on the line

:biggums:

[ScalsFan21]

:biggums:

I didn't re-watch the play nor does it matter in the end.

[CeltsGarlic]

Make a change.

Go to referee school.

Get in shape.

Ref hella high school games.

make one mistake

get beat up hard after the game

rethink life

never make it to the NBA.

stay flippin burgers.

real life scenario

[Mike smith]

Spurs in 5 has been the most obvious thing since we found out this series would be a thing. Some people have to chill about this... bad calls and missed calls happen all the time. If you're in a position where a missed call could cost you a game, you should have played better.

I don't know if Manu's foot was on the line, and yeah it was a clear offensive foul, but the fact that the team DIDN'T call a timeout directly after the steal (which would have set up the exact same scenario that people are saying the Spurs were unfairly robbed of) is indicative of the fact that in that moment, Pop and his players thought playing out a 2 on 1 mini-fast break was the smarter choice, it just didn't work out.

Green's pass in to Mills was a little off, maybe because the defender's height threw him off. But it's not as if the Spurs didn't have a chance after the steal to set up the exact same situation everyone is (rightfully) saying they should have been in.

Bad call, but overreaction and ultimately meaningless since this is the last game the Thunder are getting all series.
Okc is winning at least one at home, maybe even 2

[Steven Kerry]

[QUOTE=imnew09]SAN ANTONIO

[BlazerRed]

What is stopping the league from doing this right away so the right thing can happen and the final seconds can be replayed?


There is absolutely nothing stopping them from having an official in the sky box who phones in and lets the refs know when they ****ed up and what the right call should be.

I'm sick of shitty refs going in to business for themselves and ruining the end of games.

So a technical free throw for Gino putting his foot on the line or throwing his arms over? That's what you mean right? :confusedshrug: Also of course there's something ****ing stopping it. Do you want these kinds of things replayed every game AFTER THE FACT? Big time shit happens and you just want to go "SORRY GUYS THE DUDE IN THE BUS CALLED ME WE'RE DOING THAT ALL AGAIN!". **** outta here.

[hiphopfan777]

What i dont get is why didnt popovoch call a tims out. Thunder turned it over after that push. Spurs had 1 timeout left .

[Akhenaten]

In situations like this, the Spurs should get a chance to replay the play.

I agree, tech on manu, okc gets a ft and possession, get it done silver!

[BlazerRed]

I agree, tech on manu, okc gets a ft and possession, get it done silver!
:rockon:

[returnofthemack]

The elbow came through. That was clearly a foul.

Clearly it was a foul. The only problem with this logic is that it completely ignores the fact that Manu committed the tech by being out of bounds before waiters elbow. Refs completely swallowed their whistles on the last play. They didn't call atleast 5 obvious fouls. Spurs have no rights to complain. Manu committed the tech first, can't miss that if your a ref. The whole thing was a cluster **** but it wuld have been far more of a travesty if OKC had lost the game because the ref missed the Manu tech.

OKC should have shot a free throw and gotten possession. Instead Spurs got the ball and had a chance to win.

[BlazerRed]

Clearly it was a foul. The only problem with this logic is that it completely ignores the fact that Manu committed the tech by being out of bounds before waiters elbow. Refs completely swallowed their whistles on the last play. They didn't call atleast 5 obvious fouls. Spurs have no rights to complain. Manu committed the tech first, can't miss that if your a ref. The whole thing was a cluster **** but it wuld have been far more of a travesty if OKC had lost the game because the ref missed the Manu tech.

OKC should have shot a free throw and gotten possession. Instead Spurs got the ball and had a chance to win.
:applause:

[sd3035]

refs tried to gift wrap that game for SA but the Spurs choked :applause: :applause:

[Hey Yo]

How the thread title should read

"NBA only admits missing 1 out of 5 non-calls."

[HoopSuperstar]

when people start questioning calls, to really know who should've won its necessary to review the whole game, and not just one or two calls.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Why the hell is a kobe stan rooting for the Spurs??

:biggums: :biggums:

[HurricaneKid]

Clearly it was a foul. The only problem with this logic is that it completely ignores the fact that Manu committed the tech by being out of bounds before waiters elbow. Refs completely swallowed their whistles on the last play. They didn't call atleast 5 obvious fouls. Spurs have no rights to complain. Manu committed the tech first, can't miss that if your a ref. The whole thing was a cluster **** but it wuld have been far more of a travesty if OKC had lost the game because the ref missed the Manu tech.

OKC should have shot a free throw and gotten possession. Instead Spurs got the ball and had a chance to win.

Manu was 1 inch over the line. I don't think I have EVER seen that called. Had they called that the world would have blown up. That would have been worse than calling a late lane violation 3 seconds after a shooter missed. And when Waiters made contact it was 2 feet inbounds.

And that much contact during a dead ball is EASILY called a tech.

I do think the fact that the Spurs got the ball a second later negates a lot of the complaining. If they wanted a dead ball they should have called a TO, they did have one left.

No one is talking about the insane foul Ibaka put on LMA when Adams blocked the shot. Ibaka was literally IN LMAs jersey when LMA clearly had the rebound.

[greymatter]

The NBA's "office of official review" is "officially" Bush-league.

Kawhi holding Westbrook, Waiters shoving Ginobili --those in the end are variable in interpretation of whether a foul should be called or not. There are certain types of violations which are 100% non-subjective with regards to how they are to be called when they occur. Out of bounds situations leave ZERO room for (re)interpretation.

If you step on the line while handling the ball, you're out of bounds and it's a turnover.

If you step on the line while trying to pressure the person inbounding the ball, it's an automatic technical FT awarded to the offensive team and they get to inbound again.

[greymatter]

Manu was 1 inch over the line. I don't think I have EVER seen that called. Had they called that the world would have blown up. That would have been worse than calling a late lane violation 3 seconds after a shooter missed. And when Waiters made contact it was 2 feet inbounds.

And that much contact during a dead ball is EASILY called a tech.

His foot was well over an inch. The tip actually completely cleared the gray-colored sideline. It wasn't even close.

[HurricaneKid]

If you step on the line while trying to pressure the person inbounding the ball, it's an automatic technical FT awarded to the offensive team and they get to inbound again.

What % of the time do you believe this is called? Have you EVER seen this called?

Because defenders touch the line all the time. And demanding a tech because Manu tried to take an angle 5 feet from the inbounder shows a blatant disregard for reality.

[theaussieguy]

the sad thing is most of you schmucks don't even realize the NBA are only beginning to admit such things because it makes you the average person less susceptible to thinking the league is somewhat rigged. "Oh they admitted their mistake, SURELY they aren't influencing games" :|

shmucks

[livinglegend]

Waiters wouldn't have pushed GInobli if ginobli didn't break the rules in the first place. He had no business being to close on waiters.
And Spurs got the ball anyways.
Spurs fans are the biggest bitches in here. :facepalm

[greymatter]

What % of the time do you believe this is called? Have you EVER seen this called?

All the time. It was done literally EVERY time back in the 90s in games decided by 3 pts or less on the final possession. The reason for it being that the defensive team got to see what the offensive team drew up when they went in motion prior to the ball going in. Take the delay of game, then the defensive team's coach would make adjustments.

They stopped doing it now because of the rule change, bolded for emphasis.


Page 39, Rule No. 12, Section II, #5

(5) A defender crossing the boundary line prior to the ball being released on a throw-in.
PENALTY: The first offense is a warning. A technical foul shall be assessed with each successive offense and charged to the team. An announcement will be made by the public address announcer. The 24-second clock shall remain the same or reset to 14, whichever is greater, if the violation is assessed against the defensive team. The offensive team shall be awarded a new 8 seconds to advance the ball if it is in the backcourt. There is no change in timing status if any of these violations are assessed against the offensive team. If repeated acts become a travesty, the head coach shall be notified that he is being held responsible.
EXCEPTION (5): In the last two minutes of the fourth period and last two minutes of any overtime period, a technical foul will be assessed if the defender crosses or breaks the plane of the boundary line when an offensive player is in a position to inbound and prior to the ball being released on a throw-in.


Originally it would have been just a delay of game the first time, then tech free throws after. Not anymore.

[Im Still Ballin]

Oh come on

It wasn't even conclusive

Barely 1 cm on the line

[imdaman99]

What i dont get is why didnt popovoch call a tims out. Thunder turned it over after that push. Spurs had 1 timeout left .
I play in a league and a teammate called a timeout on a fastbreak for us when we were down 3 with 20 seconds left and everyone wanted to beat the shit out of him :lol Pop is obviously a brilliant guy, but the Spurs had so many open looks on that fastbreak that they could have gone to 2-3 different guys for wide open shots. Pop decided to go with it.

[HurricaneKid]

[/b]
Originally it would have been just a delay of game the first time, then tech free throws after. Not anymore.

So your answer is "No" you haven't ever seen it called a tech before?

[greymatter]

Oh come on

It wasn't even conclusive

Barely 1 cm on the line

Your vision sucks. Gino's foot completely cleared the (gray) line --which is far wider than 1cm.

[Im Still Ballin]

Post the picture kid

[greymatter]

So your answer is "No" you haven't ever seen it called a tech before?

Making stupid inferences doesn't enhance whatever silly argument you're trying to make.

I've seen it many times before called a tech. That was because the player had completely forgotten that they already had a delay of game called on them earlier in the game.

The point is is that teams don't deliberately step out of bounds on those plays anymore because the rules punish them for it.

[Im Still Ballin]

Just saw the manu pic

Sorry but inconclusive

That wouldn't hold up

Refs decision

Good calll

[greymatter]

Post the picture kid

Or....

You could go look again at the numerous pics posted in the other threads and not be a lazy bum?

[Im Still Ballin]

But you're my bitch

[greymatter]

Just saw the manu pic

Sorry but inconclusive

That wouldn't hold up

Refs decision

Good calll

So we're back to your vision either being useless or you're just a Spurs fan/OKC hater.

[greymatter]

But you're my bitch

Right. So now we're officially at "you've got nothing" and you're just another retard in the same mold as Nick Young, 9erempire.

Life must suck having an odd number of chromosomes. Now if only you'd do the world a favor and eliminate yourself from the gene pool.

[Im Still Ballin]

Sorry dude but that's not enough to warrant an overuling

It would never be called

Inconclusive

Refs call

[ArbitraryWater]

Sorry dude but that's not enough to warrant an overuling

It would never be called

Inconclusive

Refs call

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChijT7DUUAAYqX7.jpg

you got nothing, hombre

[HurricaneKid]

No one has mentioned the LOLs at OKC using Waiters to inbound the ball. If that's your best decision maker with the game on the line...

That's not a good sign.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChiyCCnWIAADWq8.jpg


I'm sure the Spurs would have gotten something better out of a set up play than a 3 on 1 transition break :lol

[bdreason]

They should admit the missed foul against Westbrook and Durant on the play as well. They should admit the violation by Ginobili, which contributed to the contact.

I don't see how or why the NBA thinks it's a good idea to retroactively officiate games.

[kshutts1]

My thoughts from what I saw at the end of the game, and what I've seen in this thread...

1) There were likely (I didn't watch the whole game) a lot of missed calls through the entire game. Each missed, or bad, call affects the outcome.

2) The Spurs got the ball anyway, in a better situation than they would have.

3) Manu stepped over the line first.

4) Refs are not perfect; players are not perfect. When players commit a turnover, or miss a shot, we don't fine them. They get coached up on how to correct the situation. Refs should be coached up on their mistakes, not fined.

5) Going back to point 1, if the NBA wants to be open about their officiating, then they should do so throughout the entire game, and not focus on just the last two minutes. Lebron was spot on with his criticisms of this approach.

[KiiiiNG]

Here's my take...: Spurs choked. Series tied 1-1 going back to OKC (away from the hicks in San antonio)

Could've called three different things against the Spurs, and yet they still choked away the game winner

Nobody to blame but themselves. OKC beat the **** out of the Spurs and handed them their 1st home loss of the playoffs. Just goes to show what you do in the regular season means nothing. OKC is now in a very good position to make possibly the greatest upset in history, due in large part because Durant is top 10 all-time ... spurs don't have an answer; not even the back 2 back reigning DPOY can stop KD.

[HurricaneKid]

People need to just stop with the Manu stepped on the line. It literally has happened 10,000 times since the last time it was called.

Its the swallowing altogether. Letting Kawhi hogtie Westbrook, an inbounder go onto the floor (its a travel too) to push a defender away, Ibaka literally tackling LMA after the Mills miss. Those were all WAY over the line.

[kshutts1]

People need to just stop with the Manu stepped on the line. It literally has happened 10,000 times since the last time it was called.

Its the swallowing altogether. Letting Kawhi hogtie Westbrook, an inbounder go onto the floor (its a travel too) to push a defender away, Ibaka literally tackling LMA after the Mills miss. Those were all WAY over the line.
This line of thinking is why so many players travel nowadays.

Not saying you're incorrect, but rather that's a bad argument, and a slippery slope.

[HurricaneKid]

This line of thinking is why so many players travel nowadays.

Not saying you're incorrect, but rather that's a bad argument, and a slippery slope.

I don't disagree. Its about to be what happens when the league outlaws the Hack a Deandre/Drummond too. Its going to be a tech to foul someone off the ball. You think they are going to make a lot of those calls?

Same thing goes with lane violations for FTs, etc.

There were some EGREGIOUS fouls at the end of that game. The Manu toe on the line was about 6th on the list of things that HAD to be called.

[34-24 Footwork]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtVQv4uc-H8&itct=CCMQpDAYAyITCJetr4HLvswCFVLnfgodRJsO9FIWU3B1c nMgZmFuIHN0ZXZlbiBhZGFtcw%3D%3D&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en

That also happened. Spurs fans are idiots and there should be something done about this as well.

And Dion saw that the refs aren't make the correct call for Manu stepping over the line so he took matters into his own hands. Also if that would've been called as a violation/foul, they would've went to the replay and saw that Manu stepped over the line which would've resulted in a free throw for the Thunder or a double tech at worst.

Thunder ball again. Spurs fans should be thrilled. Last night looked hella rigged.

[kshutts1]

I don't disagree. Its about to be what happens when the league outlaws the Hack a Deandre/Drummond too. Its going to be a tech to foul someone off the ball. You think they are going to make a lot of those calls?

Same thing goes with lane violations for FTs, etc.

There were some EGREGIOUS fouls at the end of that game. The Manu toe on the line was about 6th on the list of things that HAD to be called.
Without having watched the end of the game, I will agree with this point. With the exception being that it was a very "black or white" call, in that there's no room for personal judgement.

That said, again, it was arguably the most minor and least "effecting" foul/call that could have been made.

[34-24 Footwork]

I don't disagree. Its about to be what happens when the league outlaws the Hack a Deandre/Drummond too. Its going to be a tech to foul someone off the ball. You think they are going to make a lot of those calls?

Same thing goes with lane violations for FTs, etc.

There were some EGREGIOUS fouls at the end of that game. The Manu toe on the line was about 6th on the list of things that HAD to be called.

Red doesn't make it out the arena alive if he made that call. Dion took matters into his own hands though. Can't blame him.

[Lamar Odumbb]

The last play had mulitple infractions by the Spurs. The thing is which rule supercedes the other, meaning do the refs whistle the foul before the inbounds since the Spurs players were mugging the OKC players, which would result in a free throw pus the ball for OKC or do the refs whistle the delay of game warning on Manu.

I think Manu was intentionally trying to get a delay of game because the Spurs wanted to see what inbounds play OKC was running. The NBA said Hardens pushoff on his game winner wasnt an offensive foul so how could an inbound passer doing the same result in an offensive foul. The NBA officials are a joke.

[AT9]

Who cares, Spurs lost when they went 2/16 on easy shots to start the game.

And unless they can repeat game 1 or something close to it, they'll probably be down 3-1 coming back to SA. OKC has all the momentum, the home crowd, and the home refs for the next two games.

[WorldWarriors]

J.A. Adande Verified account 
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NBA says Manu stepped on line, Waiters fouled Manu, Mills fouled Adams, Kawhi fouled Russ and Ibaka fouled Aldridge. Got all that?



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NBA says Manu stepped on line, Waiters fouled Manu, Mills fouled Adams, Kawhi fouled Russ and Ibaka fouled Aldridge. Got all that?



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Mills fouled Adams? That's the only surprise to me. The others seemed pretty obvious.

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Mills fouled Adams? That's the only surprise to me. The others seemed pretty obvious.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/05/L2M-OKC-SAS-5-2-16.pdf

Two minute report. :oldlol:

They even provide video. It was brief. LOL He was holding onto Adams like a Chihuahua in heat.