Better leader: Kobe or James Harden?

[Dray n Klay]

This is a tough one, could go either way.
Who do you got?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Ya moms

[Mike smith]

Well Kobe led a team to 5 championships so I don't know why this is even a thread

[FKAri]

Ya moms
His mom certainly is a great head for any team.

[Dray n Klay]

Well Kobe led a team to 5 championships so I don't know why this is even a thread


Did Kobe actually 'lead"? Or was he a spectator to the dominance of Shaq and Gasol?

[Steven Kerry]

Phil Jackson

[Klay 3D]

Kobe is better than both James and Harden

[JT123]

Considering Kobe might be the worst "leader" in the history of sports I'll have to go with Harden. Let's look at the evidence

Kobe with Dwight and Gasol = lottery
Harden with Dwight and scrubs = WCF

Hmmmmmmm

[Dray n Klay]

Considering Kobe might be the worst "leader" in the history of sports I'll have to go with Harden. Let's look at the evidence

Kobe with Dwight and Gasol = lottery
Harden with Dwight and scrubs = WCF

Hmmmmmmm


Hmmm. solid point, never thought about it that way.

[ImKobe]

horrible poster..

[Levity]

Considering Kobe might be the worst "leader" in the history of sports I'll have to go with Harden. Let's look at the evidence

Kobe with Dwight and Gasol = lottery
Harden with Dwight and scrubs = WCF

Hmmmmmmm

so you needed to log on to your alt to show us the reason you came up with this thread in the first place?

thats the equivalent of telling a joke to someone then having to explain it right after.

[JT123]

so you needed to log on to your alt to show us the reason you came up with this thread in the first place?

thats the equivalent of telling a joke to someone then having to explain it right after.
Lame. JT is not my alt, and this is my only account

[KiiiiNG]

horrible poster..
Rent free you irrelevant loser.:oldlol:

Get a job, and maybe even a life.

I'm taking harden btw... he actually has the ability to create friendships with teammates. Kobes the most anti-social player ever and was never the actual leader of the Lakers.

[Levity]

Lame. JT is not my alt, and this is my only account

:lol

:cheers:

[choppermagic]

This thread is terrible.

5 Championships.

Spectator? Dude scored over 28ppg when Gasol hit 18ppg and crapped his pants in Boston. Only haters will claim an inconsistent 18ppg dominated the leading scorer for both teams by 10ppg. Kobe showed up on the road too. It's not like Gasol was winning rings as the franchise player before getting traded.

[Dray n Klay]

Rent free you irrelevant loser.:oldlol:

Get a job, and maybe even a life.

I'm taking harden btw... he actually has the ability to create friendships with teammates. Kobes the most anti-social player ever and was never the actual leader of the Lakers.

Got him


:lol :roll: :roll:

[Dr Hawk]

Rent free you irrelevant loser.:oldlol:

Get a job, and maybe even a life.

I'm taking harden btw... he actually has the ability to create friendships with teammates. Kobes the most anti-social player ever and was never the actual leader of the Lakers.

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[JT123]

This thread is terrible.

5 Championships.

Spectator? Dude scored over 28ppg when Gasol hit 18ppg and crapped his pants in Boston. Only haters will claim an inconsistent 18ppg dominated the leading scorer for both teams by 10ppg. Kobe showed up on the road too. It's not like Gasol was winning rings as the franchise player before getting traded.
Can you read? This thread is about LEADERSHIP dummy, not ppg. :hammerhead:

Kobe was never a real leader, his teams always relied on Fisher and Phil for that. You think it's a coincidence that as soon as Fisher left that Lakers become the biggest laughingstock in sports?

[KiiiiNG]

Can you read? This thread is about LEADERSHIP dummy, not ppg. :hammerhead:

Kobe was never a real leader, his teams always relied on Fisher and Phil for that. You think it's a coincidence that as soon as Fisher left that Lakers become the biggest laughingstock in sports?
Slayed.

[Dray n Klay]

Can you read? This thread is about LEADERSHIP dummy, not ppg. :hammerhead:

Kobe was never a real leader, his teams always relied on Fisher and Phil for that. You think it's a coincidence that as soon as Fisher left that Lakers become the biggest laughingstock in sports?

ether

[imdaman99]

Kobe is better than both James and Harden
Underrated and solid post :applause:

[riseagainst]

Lame. JT is not my alt, and this is my only account


:biggums:

Is there another JT? Wrong account bruh.

:roll:

[choppermagic]

Can you read? This thread is about LEADERSHIP dummy, not ppg. :hammerhead:

Kobe was never a real leader, his teams always relied on Fisher and Phil for that. You think it's a coincidence that as soon as Fisher left that Lakers become the biggest laughingstock in sports?


LOL you're the dunce. Fisher? The guy who got ousted from NY for hitting on his teammates' girls?

Kobe was the leader of the Lakers bro. He called his own shots when he thought it prudent and he also directed players on the floor. Just because Fisher finally left when he was waaay past washed up doesn't mean causation.

Also, you Kobe haters always say he was uncoachable, and then flip flop saying Phil was pulling all the strings. Laughable. Kobe was the Lakers leader by far ever since Shaq left. You denying it doesn't make it true.

Your argument is as weak as saying Jordan wasn't the leader of the Bulls because he lad Phil and Pippen with him at the same time too. Lame.

[Dray n Klay]

:biggums:

Is there another JT? Wrong account bruh.

:roll:


rent free :roll:

[Magic 32]

I don't know why this is even a thread

Because Dray n Klay feels all alone.

When we respond he feels less lonely.

I feel like I'm doing charity when I call him a loser.

[ErhnamDjinn]

as much as I hate Kobe, Harden will never be on the level Kobe is/was or ever will be, Harden's a no defense chucker. They shouldnt even be in the same sentence.

[Dray n Klay]

as much as I hate Kobe, Harden will never be on the level Kobe is/was or ever will be, Harden's a no defense chucker. They shouldnt even be in the same sentence.


So what exactly's the difference??

[Lebronxrings]

the guy who doesn't chase away the superior players so he can remain the alpha.

[ImKobe]

the guy who doesn't chase away the superior players so he can remain the alpha.

lol.

Harden broke up a dynasty over 5 million...

[Lebronxrings]

lol.

Harden broke up a dynasty over 5 million...
Harden wanted to be his own person because he felt he could become a star which he is now so its justified.

Kobe ran shaq out of town, then dwight, then gasol.

[Disaprine]

both are better than lebron since he colluded to the heat, than colluded back to the cavs. :(

[ImKobe]

Harden wanted to be his own person because he felt he could become a star which he is now so its justified.

Kobe ran shaq out of town, then dwight, then gasol.

Jerry Buss traded Shaq in favor of keeping Kobe, Shaq wanted 30 mil/yr despite not being the best player on the team

Dwight is a cancer and did the Lakers a favor by leaving, Pau left because of D'Antoni trying to use him as a stretch 4 which led to his injuries

I guess by your logic Harden also ran Dwight out of Houston because he's leaving this summer...

[SwayDizzle]

Considering Kobe might be the worst "leader" in the history of sports I'll have to go with Harden. Let's look at the evidence

Kobe with Dwight and Gasol = lottery
Harden with Dwight and scrubs = WCF

Hmmmmmmm
y r u so simple?