Shouldnt Wade be ranked higher than Dirk?

[nathanjizzle]

people argue dirk is somewhere 10-20 which is laughable. and people argue wade is somewhere between 20-30 which is laughable. Let me know what you guys think and whats laughable and whats not laughable. thanks.

[Steven Kerry]

I don't think it is very clear cut. An argument could be made either way. Dirk has more longevity and carried 2 teams to the Finals as easily the main guy, with 1 championship. The one in which Wade won as the man he had a more stacked team and the refs on his side. Dirk has gotten through more good teams in the playoffs by himself. Also, Dirk has an MVP.

[stalkerforlife]

Both are top 20 all time.

[ScalsFan21]

people argue dirk is somewhere 10-20 which is laughable. and people argue wade is somewhere between 20-30 which is laughable. Let me know what you guys think and whats laughable and whats not laughable. thanks.

I'm taking Wade over Dirk all-time. I love Dirk but I have Wade at least a few spots above him. Offensively comparable, though I probably give the nod to Nowitzki's more ageless game. Defensively there is no comparison, and really the only thing Dirk has that Wade doesn't is the one MVP.

They deserve to be similarly-tiered either in or around the top 20, and it's impossible to intelligently justify putting them any lower. I've never seen anyone put Dirk anywhere near the top 10 ever though.

[pastis]

well, at least we can all agree that both Dirk and Wade are 10x better than the best version of debrick rose.

[tpols]

there about the same level, I personally would give Dirk slight nod for career because he did it for much longer but thats about it.

[SuperCereal]

Dirk>Wade>Butler>Rose

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

If Lebron never pissed himself in 2011, he would be surefire.

Not only that, but a relatively healthy Wade was as good as Kobe too.

[pastis]

Dirk>Wade>Butler>Rose

add kemba walker and jeremy lin as better than Rose

[ClipperRevival]

If Lebron never pissed himself in 2011, he would be surefire.

Not only that, but a relatively healthy Wade was as good as Kobe too.

Yup. Bron laying an egg in 2011 opened up the door for Dirk to even be in this discussion. What a beta. Like Lowry now, he wanted nothing to do with the outcome. Lights were too bright.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lebron-james-of-the-miami-heat-posts-up-against-jose-juan-barea-of-picture-id116762778

[SuperCereal]

add kemba walker and jeremy lin as better than Rose

Dirk>Wade>Butler>Kemba>Asian guy>Austin Rivers>Rose

[stalkerforlife]

Yup. Bron laying an egg in 2011 opened up the door for Dirk to even be in this discussion. What a beta. Like Lowry now, he wanted nothing to do with the outcome. Lights were too bright.

http://http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lebron-james-of-the-miami-heat-posts-up-against-jose-juan-barea-of-picture-id116762778

He looks literally twice the size of that midget. :roll:

[pastis]

Yup. Bron laying an egg in 2011 opened up the door for Dirk to even be in this discussion. What a beta. Like Lowry now, he wanted nothing to do with the outcome. Lights were too bright.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lebron-james-of-the-miami-heat-posts-up-against-jose-juan-barea-of-picture-id116762778

but without lebron wade wouldnt got the the finals 2011,2012,2013,2014.

even as a hater you should admit it.

[ScalsFan21]

If Lebron never pissed himself in 2011, he would be surefire.

I see where you're coming from, since a Heat win in 2011 would have led to a second FMVP for Wade to really close the book on D-Wade/Dirk in terms of accolades, but I mean... I don't know. I just don't think that one tweak to Wade's achievements is enough to say it would end the comparisons. To say that another player's bad performance might change which of these guys is better all-time, to me is kind of unfair.

I'm more about positive on-court impact and context than just rings/awards on their own. I do agree that Wade's peak has a case for top 2 all time at his position though.

[pastis]

Dirk>Wade>Butler>Kemba>Asian guy>Austin Rivers>Rose

this

[JohnnySic]

Both top 30. Dirk slightly higher.

[PP34Deuce]

I think they are both around 20-25 and in my list, 23 and 24.

Dirk has stats, wins, longevity, and international fame on his side.

[derb2k2]

Top 15-20 for sure.

3 championships, which is more than many of the guys in the aforementioned range.

Some of you are just hating. Wade is greatness! :bowdown:

[sportjames23]

Yup. Bron laying an egg in 2011 opened up the door for Dirk to even be in this discussion. What a beta. Like Lowry now, he wanted nothing to do with the outcome. Lights were too bright.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lebron-james-of-the-miami-heat-posts-up-against-jose-juan-barea-of-picture-id116762778


Bron got checked by a dude a foot shorter than him wearing Converse. :facepalm

[SilkkTheShocker]

Anyone taking Wade over Dirk all-time is on crack.

[ArbitraryWater]

Anyone taking Wade over Dirk all-time is on crack.

this smh... current 37 year old Dirk is better than freakin Wade, still :facepalm

this board is a mess

you wouldnt see this shit elsewhere... (Dirk outside the top 20)

[Bankaii]

If Lebron never pissed himself in 2011, he would be surefire.

Not only that, but a relatively healthy Wade was as good as Kobe too.
They wouldn't have even made the Finals of it wasn't for Lebron, dipshit.

[aj1987]

this smh... current 37 year old Dirk is better than freakin Wade, still :facepalm

this board is a mess

you wouldnt see this shit elsewhere... (Dirk outside the top 20)
FOH, dumbshit. Was was a significantly better scorer and passer this season and it was pretty much a wash scoring wise.

:roll: :roll: @ Dirk being better than Wade this season.

What one 1 ring (which he got because of an ATG choke) does to your career. :facepalm

[Klay 3D]

Peak Season
Wade = 30/8/5/2.2/1.3 57TS% 30.4PER
Dirk = 26/10/3/0.7/1 59TS% 28.1PER

Best 10 straight years
Wade = 25/6/5/1.7/0.9 57TS% 25.6PER
Dirk = 24/9/3/0.9/1 58TS% 24.5PER

Dirk Accolades
NBA champion
NBA Finals MVP
NBA Most Valuable Player
[COLOR="Red"]13

[Dresta]

this smh... current 37 year old Dirk is better than freakin Wade, still :facepalm

this board is a mess

you wouldnt see this shit elsewhere... (Dirk outside the top 20)
No he isn't you imbecile. And while we're at it, Wade was better than Dirk in the series that redeemed his career, and without which, he would not be regarded as a top-25 player by almost any one.

They are both around top 20 for me; but shut up with that nonsense already. For all the talk about longevity, Wade will very likely pass Dirk in playoff scoring this season. And it's well known that bigs have it easier as they age; to be doing what Wade is as a 34 year old guard is pretty damn rare.

[bizil]

GOAT wise they are around the same level. But due to Wade's injury issues, I think Dirk ended up going ahead of him slightly. I think Dirk's longevity, place on scoring charts, MVP, being the greatest Euro player ever in the NBA, and redefining the PF position lean things slightly Dirk's way. But I wouldn't argue with anybody choosing Wade because it's a close call.

[FreezingTsmoove]

but without lebron wade wouldnt got the the finals 2011,2012,2013,2014.

even as a hater you should admit it.

How? Surely Wade and Bosh led teams could make the finals. Add in another great player in place of Lebrons contract and its a wrap. We all know how good Riley is at putting together teams, he would have gotten Wade the best help possible

[feyki]

17 - Elgin
18 - Pettit
19 - Hondo
20 - Dirk
21 - Barkley
22 - Karl
23 - Wade
24 - KG
25 - Admiral

[KelticForce1349]

[QUOTE=Klay 3D]Peak Season
Wade = 30/8/5/2.2/1.3 57TS% 30.4PER
Dirk = 26/10/3/0.7/1 59TS% 28.1PER

Best 10 straight years
Wade = 25/6/5/1.7/0.9 57TS% 25.6PER
Dirk = 24/9/3/0.9/1 58TS% 24.5PER

Dirk Accolades
NBA champion
NBA Finals MVP
NBA Most Valuable Player
[COLOR="Red"]13

[HiphopRelated]

Wade is expected to play another 3 to 5 years? :confusedshrug:
yeah, I think he retires at 38

[Klay 3D]

Wade is expected to play another 3 to 5 years? :confusedshrug:
I said 2 is expected. For the way he's been playing this year, there's really no argument here.

3-5 if the Heat continue making deep playoff runs and as long as he's healthy. Of course he wouldn't be a #1 option anymore but still effective in spurts.

[ArbitraryWater]

FOH, dumbshit. Was was a significantly better scorer and passer this season and it was pretty much a wash scoring wise.

:roll: :roll: @ Dirk being better than Wade this season.

What one 1 ring (which he got because of an ATG choke) does to your career. :facepalm

Dont think Ive seen anyone rank Wade higher than Dirk this year outside of Heat turds

[SchrOEder]

i have both in the Barkley/KG/Malone/Robertson tier.

[Dresta]

Dont think Ive seen anyone rank Wade higher than Dirk this year outside of Heat turds
:biggums:

Then you're either blind or deluding yourself, because plenty of non-Heat fans have, and this thread was made by a non-Heat fan.

[aj1987]

Dont think Ive seen anyone rank Wade higher than Dirk this year outside of Heat turds
Heat "turds"? :oldlol:

That's rich, coming from you, AutisticWater. Now run away from this thread like the little bitch you are.

[Draz]

I think Wade/Dirk ranking is the hardest to rank. Both amazing, phenomenal players. I won't say who's the better player. However, I'd say Dirk had a harder team to play with, winning less, but Wade having the better cast, winning more.

All in all, 1a/1b TBH. Dirks longevity is something we should all pay tribute to.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

They wouldn't have even made the Finals of it wasn't for Lebron, dipshit.

Thank you captain obvious.

That still has nothing to do with what I said.

[Cap'n Obvious]

Thank you captain obvious.


This is my first post in this thread.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

This is my first post in this thread.

:oldlol

Waddup bro ...

[Pointguard]

[QUOTE=Klay 3D]Peak Season
Wade = 30/8/5/2.2/1.3 57TS% 30.4PER
Dirk = 26/10/3/0.7/1 59TS% 28.1PER

Best 10 straight years
Wade = 25/6/5/1.7/0.9 57TS% 25.6PER
Dirk = 24/9/3/0.9/1 58TS% 24.5PER

Dirk Accolades
NBA champion
NBA Finals MVP
NBA Most Valuable Player
[COLOR="Red"]13

[masonanddixon]

Good work. This pretty much covers it. A healthy Wade is unquestionably a better player. He out scored Dirk by 14ppg in Dirks prime in the four critical games of the FINALs. Nash the MVP was averaging about that same amount 14ppg that year. But Dirks health has been great and his has more good years.

lol you can't help yourself from being a racist clown, can you?

Hey guess who outscored who in the 4th quarter of the 2011 NBA Finals, chump?

[LilEddyCurry]

3>1.

[NBAGOAT]

Stats will underrate the impact Dirk has on offense with his spacing etc. No doubt Wade's peak is better but I argue Dirk's still has an edge on offense impact wise for his career to make up Wade's edge on defense. and had some insane years carrying only decent Mavs teams pretty well. Wade can pass him with a few more years but I have an edge for Dirk now.

[ImKobe]

Dirk had a better career as the leader...Making the Playoffs in the West almost every year with terrible supporting casts, beating Lebron and Wade in the Finals with Tyson Chandler as his 2nd best player..

Has a regular season MVP to his name, which Wade doesn't. Led teams to multiple 60-win seasons, which Wade didn't. Better scoring numbers for his PO career, more Playoff runs.

Wade hasn't even made it to the Conference Finals without Lebron or Shaq and he's 34..

Dirk's championship run > Wade's.

[DMAVS41]

Good work. This pretty much covers it. A healthy Wade is unquestionably a better player. He out scored Dirk by 14ppg in Dirks prime in the four critical games of the FINALs. Nash the MVP was averaging about that same amount 14ppg that year. But Dirks health has been great and his has more good years.

I don't think it's unquestionable that Wade was better at all.

I do lean towards a peak Wade as being better, but it's far closer than you are painting.

But yes, that isn't why Dirk is firmly ahead all time on most lists...Dirk has had some of the best longevity, consistency, and durability of all time...while Wade's is seriously lacking.

Even with that though.......I don't see any issue with someone ranking Wade higher than Dirk. Wade was a monster and tends to get under-rated here.

[stephanieg]

When he started out Dirk's game was considered soft or a gimmick. Now jump shooting bigs are all the rage and more and more teams want to go small and have shooters at all positions. Wade's mediocre three point game is more of a throwback to the past. For where the league is going, Dirk seems more valuable.

[Done_And_Done]

Yup. Bron laying an egg in 2011 opened up the door for Dirk to even be in this discussion. What a beta. Like Lowry now, he wanted nothing to do with the outcome. Lights were too bright.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lebron-james-of-the-miami-heat-posts-up-against-jose-juan-barea-of-picture-id116762778

In defense of Kyle, he's not exactly shying away from the moment, he's just plainly sucking ass...

[LAZERUSS]

Dirk.

Been the main man his entire career.

[brain drain]

LOL.

Put Dirk in the east, give him 3 years with a still-pretty-damn-good Shaq and 3 years with prime Lebron and some backcourt player roughly as good as Bosh and watch what happens.

Alternatively, look at how much success Wade had in the years where he didn't have an All-NBA teamate.

Not even close.

[LAZERUSS]

LOL.

Put Dirk in the east, give him 3 years with a still-pretty-damn-good Shaq and 3 years with prime Lebron and some backcourt player roughly as good as Bosh and watch what happens.

Alternatively, look at how much success Wade had in the years where he didn't have an All-NBA teamate.

Not even close.

Excellent point. Dirk certainly did more with considerably less.

[PJR]

It's not Wade's fault that he's so great that Shaq and LeBron CHOSE to go play with him. :confusedshrug:

Wade is a draw to other players that Dirk simply never was.

[tpols]

It's not Wade's fault that he's so great that Shaq and LeBron CHOSE to go play with him. :confusedshrug:

Wade is a draw to other players that Dirk simply never was.


nice bullshit way of putting things ..

[k0kakw0rld]

people argue dirk is somewhere 10-20 which is laughable. and people argue wade is somewhere between 20-30 which is laughable. Let me know what you guys think and whats laughable and whats not laughable. thanks.

Season MVP
Dirk Nowitzki 1
Dwyane Wade 0
Finals MVP
Dirk Nowitzki 1
Dwyane Wade 1

All-NBA First Team
Dirk Nowitzki 4
Dwyane Wade 2

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)
Dirk Nowitzki 12
Dwyane Wade 8



NBA Regular Season Stats
Stats Per Game
Points Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 22.0

Dwyane Wade 23.7


Rebounds Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 7.9

Dwyane Wade 4.8


Assists Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 2.5

Dwyane Wade 5.8


Steals Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 0.8

Dwyane Wade 1.7


Blocks Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 0.9

Dwyane Wade 0.9

Total Points
Dirk Nowitzki 29,491

Dwyane Wade 20,221


I think we are done here :cheers:

[LAZERUSS]

Season MVP
Dirk Nowitzki 1
Dwyane Wade 0
Finals MVP
Dirk Nowitzki 1
Dwyane Wade 1

All-NBA First Team
Dirk Nowitzki 4
Dwyane Wade 2

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)
Dirk Nowitzki 12
Dwyane Wade 8



NBA Regular Season Stats
Stats Per Game
Points Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 22.0

Dwyane Wade 23.7


Rebounds Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 7.9

Dwyane Wade 4.8


Assists Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 2.5

Dwyane Wade 5.8


Steals Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 0.8

Dwyane Wade 1.7


Blocks Per Game
Dirk Nowitzki 0.9

Dwyane Wade 0.9

Total Points
Dirk Nowitzki 29,491

Dwyane Wade 20,221


I think we are done here :cheers:

Dirk has also been ranked considerably higher in the MVP voting in their careers, as well.

Wade is somewhere around a top-30 player, and Dirk has a case for top-20.

[Replay32]

this smh... current 37 year old Dirk is better than freakin Wade, still :facepalm

this board is a mess

you wouldnt see this shit elsewhere... (Dirk outside the top 20)

This is BS. :facepalm

IMO, Wade is a better two way player than Dirk. Dirk may be Ranked a bit higher at this point. No way to truly judge until both has finished playing IMO. I also don't like comparing players that play totally different positions.

[Wade's Rings]

Has a regular season MVP to his name, which Wade doesn't.

I don't really see the point of saying this? You could easily argue '09 Wade > '07 Dirk, one guy just had the way better team.


Led teams to multiple 60-win seasons, which Wade didn't. Better scoring numbers for his PO career, more Playoff runs.

Wade finished 1 win shy of this in '05, didn't have the casts from '06-'10 to do this and in '11 the Heat didn't have any chemistry to start the Season and finished a few wins shy of 60.

What's a Playoff run for you, at least the 2nd round? Conference Finals? If it's the 2nd round then Dirk has 7 to Wade's 8. Conference Finals? Dirk has 3 to Wade's 6 and this could potentially be 7 for Wade in a week.

Wade's numbers are down because he was a 2nd option for 3 of his runs. Wade averaged 27.3 ppg from '05-'11 while Dirk averaged 26.2 from '02--'12. Wade is 8 points away from passing Dirk in total Playoff points.


Wade hasn't even made it to the Conference Finals without Lebron or Shaq and he's 34..

I never understand why Kobe stans of all people use this logic. Kobe's never made it out of the 1st round without Shaq or Gasol.

:confusedshrug:


Dirk's championship run > Wade's.

Debatable.

[PJR]

nice bullshit way of putting things ..

Thanks. It's a Kobe Stan speciality.

You also can't refute it.

Titles and success came rolling into Miami after Wade got drafted. It's as simple as that. Debate your mother.

[Just2McFly]

Thanks. It's a Kobe Stan speciality.

You also can't refute it.

Titles and success came rolling into Miami after Wade got drafted. It's as simple as that. Debate your mother.
Talk to him!

[colts19]

I pick Dirk. If Bron had jumped to Dallas instead of Miami for 4 years they would have won at least 3 Titles maybe 4.

[Dray n Klay]

Wade has never been relevant as a 1st option




I think that says enough...

[aj1987]

I don't think it's unquestionable that Wade was better at all.

I do lean towards a peak Wade as being better, but it's far closer than you are painting.

But yes, that isn't why Dirk is firmly ahead all time on most lists...Dirk has had some of the best longevity, consistency, and durability of all time...while Wade's is seriously lacking.

Even with that though.......I don't see any issue with someone ranking Wade higher than Dirk. Wade was a monster and tends to get under-rated here.
This time a 183927492837. Wade and Dirk are basically one the same level.

[LAZERUSS]

I pick Dirk. If Bron had jumped to Dallas instead of Miami for 4 years they would have won at least 3 Titles maybe 4.

This.

[aj1987]

This.
Wonder what Dirk would've done with a 30 PPG player, who averaged 40 PPG in a Finals series.

[tpols]

I pick Dirk. If Bron had jumped to Dallas instead of Miami for 4 years they would have won at least 3 Titles maybe 4.

nope .. Wade is better at teaming up with MVP candidates. Its his best talent.

is what it is.

[LAZERUSS]

Wonder what Dirk would've done with a 30 PPG player, who averaged 40 PPG in a Finals series.

You mean Rick Barry?

The same Barry who had his ass handed to him by a 17.5 ppg Chamberlain in that Finals?

[tpols]

Thanks. It's a Kobe Stan speciality.

You also can't refute it.

Titles and success came rolling into Miami after Wade got drafted. It's as simple as that. Debate your mother.

nah.. you can thank Riley for all that.

[Wade's Rings]

Wonder what Dirk would've done with a 30 PPG player, who averaged 40 PPG in a Finals series.

Shoot 4-13 from the line in a 2 point Game 7 loss?

[aj1987]

You mean Rick Barry?

The same Barry who had his ass handed to him by a 17.5 ppg Chamberlain in that Finals?
'69 Finals, bitch. 18 PPG in the Finals. 5th leading scorer on his own team and still won a ring. :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

Shoot 4-13 from the line in a 2 point Game 7 loss?

Don't forget 7-8 from the field Einstein.

We are not talking about Wade puking all over the floor in a clinching Finals losses, here...but rather...

'69 game seven TS%...

Russell... .333

Wilt's "replacement" Mel Counts... .321
Baylor... .408
West... .553

Wilt... .621.

To go along with 27 rebounds.

[rmt]

I'd pick Dirk. He's been a workhorse for a much longer time in a much stronger conference.

Wade is too fragile - shoulda taken lessons on falling down from Parker.

[LAZERUSS]

'69 Finals, bitch. 18 PPG in the Finals. 5th leading scorer on his own team and still won a ring. :roll:

Do some real research and get back to me.

BTW...Wilt's COACH...

"When we pass the ball into Wilt, he will score. But it is an ugly offense to watch."

He quit right after that game seven coaching debacle, and before he was about to be fired.

Of course, Chamberlain would lead the Lakers to a 69-13 record a couple of years later, and a dominating world title...en route to a FMVP.

[Smoke117]

Yes, he should.

[Jacks3]

Wade had a sightly better peak...that's pretty much it. Dirk craps all over him in terms of superstar longevity/overall sustained excellence. He really has no case over Dirk all-time.

[LAZERUSS]

Wade had a sightly better peak...that's pretty much it. Dirk craps all over him in terms of superstar longevity/overall sustained excellence. He really has no case over Dirk all-time.

This.

These Wade fanatics are something else. Be thankful he was gifted one ring by the refs, and two more by Lebron.

And because of that...he is somewhere around a Top-30 player all-time.

Asking anything more is laughable.

Hell, he has been broken down in half of his career.

[eliteballer]

Dirk is not a "great" player. Very good yes, but great players can do more than one thing at an elite level.

[Jacks3]

Dirk is not a "great" player. Very good yes, but great players can do more than one thing at an elite level.

One of the dumbest posts ever. Dirk is one of the twenty best players in history.

[eliteballer]

One of the dumbest posts ever. Dirk is one of the twenty best players in history.

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

[tpols]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

you're a joke.

[Jacks3]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

Wow. You're an idiot.

[Dresta]

This.

These Wade fanatics are something else. Be thankful he was gifted one ring by the refs, and two more by Lebron.

And because of that...he is somewhere around a Top-30 player all-time.

Asking anything more is laughable.

Hell, he has been broken down in half of his career.
And yet he has more playoff points than Wilt :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Wade had a sightly better peak...that's pretty much it. Dirk craps all over him in terms of superstar longevity/overall sustained excellence. He really has no case over Dirk all-time.

:cheers:

[Wade's Rings]

2 shit posters in Arbitrary and Jacks agreeing. :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

2 shit posters in Arbitrary and Jacks agreeing. :oldlol:

Pretty lame ad hominem, thought you were better than that. Then again, you get hot quick when your boy is on the losing end.

If you get upset on someone calling Dirk better than Wade, you have some sorry emotions/biases.

[Wade's Rings]

Pretty lame ad hominem, thought you were better than that. Then again, you get hot quick when your boy is on the losing end.

:oldlol:

I was in this thread before the Heat even played and the Heat losing today has nothing to do with how I'm posting. Please link multiple posts of mine where I'm clearly heated because the Heat loss that day or night.


If you get upset on someone calling Dirk better than Wade, you have some sorry emotions/biases.

Both of you guys are just shit posters.

[WadeStan]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

:biggums:

[Smoke117]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

:biggums:

[LAZERUSS]

And yet he has more playoff points than Wilt :lol

And nowhere near the IMPACT.

Just ask a PEAK Kareem, who couldn't hit a shot in the last four games of the '72 WCF's, and watched helplessly as Chamberlain pounded him down the stretch of the clinching game six win and in Milwaukee.

Virtually EVERYONE who watched that series, including the MILWAUKEE PRESS claimed that Wilt outplayed Kareem in that series. TIME Magazine went so far as to claim that Wilt DECISIVELY OUTPLAYED the 25 year old Kareem.

All in a series in which Chamberlain averaged 11 ppg.

THAT is just one of the MANY examples of Wilt's post-season DOMINATION.

[impulze]

Dirk, my most favourite player. The skills, the team commitment together with him being humble is soooo nice. :bowdown:
I like Wade though but if I would ever have to opportunity to build a franchise, Dirk would probably be my first pick. Maybe not now where he's close to retirement but I'd think about it.

[rmt]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

I respectfully disagree. You are breaking things down by skill. Skill has to result in accomplishments/winning - especially in ranking players. The bottom 5 do not come near to Dirk. Even Curry - I'll give him peak over Dirk but not on GOAT ranking - just hasn't done it for long enough. Dirk has carried a perennial playoff team in the brutal West for well over a decade.

[IGOTGAME]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis

Davis?? lets be serious

[Lebron23]

Yes, He's ranked higher than Dirk.

[BlakFrankWhite]

No, the glorified sidekick ain't better than Dirk all time

[ArbitraryWater]

:oldlol:

I was in this thread before the Heat even played and the Heat losing today has nothing to do with how I'm posting. Please link multiple posts of mine where I'm clearly heated because the Heat loss that day or night.

I'm talking about him losing this comparison you moron :oldlol:


Both of you guys are just shit posters.

I'm gonna take that VERY seriously from "WADE'S RINGS" in a WADE/DIRK thread where I agreed that DIRK > WADE.....

:oldlol:

[Collie]

He might have had a higher peak, but Dirk was not far behind, and his longevity is much greater.

Wade is in his 13th season, still a good player, but a shell of what he once was. Dirk won his championship in his 13th season, while averaging 28/8/3.

[LAZERUSS]

He might have had a higher peak, but Dirk was not far behind, and his longevity is much greater.

Wade is in his 13th season, still a good player, but a shell of what he once was. Dirk won his championship in his 13th season, while averaging 28/8/3.

In 13 seasons, Wade has never played 80 games...ever. In seven of them, he has played in 69 games, or less (that includes the strike season of 66 games, in which he played in 49.) And in four, he has played in 54 or games, or less.

And in his four years with Lebron, the Heat went 47-18 in the games he missed.

Broken down bus rider.

[Wade's Rings]

I'm talking about him losing this comparison you moron :oldlol:

Losing this comparison? Plenty of people have Wade ranked higher and I don't really care if people have Dirk higher, I've just said that when people say it's not close is straight up just stupid.


I'm gonna take that VERY seriously from "WADE'S RINGS" in a WADE/DIRK thread where I agreed that DIRK > WADE.....

:oldlol:

Like I've said in this thread, you're both 2 shit posters. You don't think there's a reason people are calling you autisticwater now? :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

There's 7 players in the NBA RIGHT NOW who are better than Dirk ever was, forget history.

Curry
LeBron
Leonard
Durant
Westbrook
CP3
Davis
What in the hell?

[ArbitraryWater]

Losing this comparison? Plenty of people have Wade ranked higher and I don't really care if people have Dirk higher, I've just said that when people say it's not close is straight up just stupid.



Like I've said in this thread, you're both 2 shit posters. You don't think there's a reason people are calling you autisticwater now? :oldlol:

Bruh.. this high school in your head?

"you shit!"
"they calling you shit, too!"

cringe :oldlol:

[Wade's Rings]

Bruh.. this high school in your head?

"you shit!"
"they calling you shit, too!"

cringe :oldlol:

:biggums:

You seriously think that's the only reason I think you're a shit poster? :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

:biggums:

You seriously think that's the only reason I think you're a shit poster? :oldlol:

Bruh, just the fact you've repeated "shitposter" about 5 times now tells me how petty and high school ish your shit is.. :oldlol:

want this to extend this to something more... like, I dont me... me calling you a shit poster? Wouldnt we be going places huh.. you = cringe :facepalm

[Wade's Rings]

Bruh, just the fact you've repeated "shitposter" about 5 times now tells me how petty and high school ish your shit is.. :oldlol:

want this to extend this to something more... like, I dont me... me calling you a shit poster? Wouldnt we be going places huh.. you = cringe :facepalm

Now because I've called you a "shit poster" 5 times, it's some high school level shit. :oldlol:

Autisticwater couldn't be more fitting.

[ArbitraryWater]

Now because I've called you a "shit poster" 5 times, it's some high school level shit. :oldlol:

Autisticwater couldn't be more fitting.

You don't even know Autism is, yikes

[Wade's Rings]

You don't even know Autism is, yikes

Ok.

[StephHamann]

As a fellow member of the LEBRON FAM, i must say, Dirk is WAY HIGHER than Wade all time.

[Wade's Rings]

No, the glorified sidekick ain't better than Dirk all time

Isn't this a Westbrook stan? :lol

[nathanjizzle]

to me, wade is more of a game changer. If he continues to play well tonight, and on top of that beat the cavs next series, then its pretty much cement this guy is beyond dirk.

[eliteballer]

I respectfully disagree. You are breaking things down by skill. Skill has to result in accomplishments/winning - especially in ranking players. The bottom 5 do not come near to Dirk. Even Curry - I'll give him peak over Dirk but not on GOAT ranking - just hasn't done it for long enough. Dirk has carried a perennial playoff team in the brutal West for well over a decade.

His teams have consistently been stocked with talent thanks to Cuban's pocketbook and he was also the star player on the team that lost in two of the biggest playoff flops of all time(06 and 07)

[Wade's Rings]

to me, wade is more of a game changer. If he continues to play well tonight, and on top of that beat the cavs next series, then its pretty much cement this guy is beyond dirk.

:coleman: