Jordan got 3 times as many dunks as Westbrook

[3ball]

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Westbrook got 48 dunks in 2015, compared to Jordan's 158 in 1988, as the stats show here:


http://oi58.tinypic.com/2lb0whh.jpg



Year..... Shots..... Dunks....Shots Per Dunk

1988..... 165,439..... 5,727..... 28.89 <------ harder to dunk
1989..... 182,375..... 6,475..... 28.17
1990..... 192,942..... 7,011..... 27.52
1991..... 193,050..... 7,241..... 26.66
1992..... 193,401..... 8,122..... 23.81
1993..... 190,296..... 8,252..... 23.06
1994..... 186,948..... 8,515..... 21.96
1995..... 180,414..... 8,645..... 20.87
1996..... 190,675..... 8,468..... 22.52
1997..... 188,587..... 8,460..... 22.29
1998..... 189,544..... 9,318..... 20.34 <------ easier to dunk
1999..... 113,390..... 4,681..... 24.22
2000..... 195,228..... 8,325..... 23.45
2001..... 191,661..... 7,319..... 26.19 <------ harder to dunk
2002..... 193,256..... 8,439..... 22.90
2003..... 192,096..... 8,265..... 23.24
2004..... 189,805..... 8,120..... 23.38
2005..... 197,640..... 9,150..... 21.60
2006..... 194,310..... 8,640..... 22.49
2007..... 196,080..... 8,310..... 23.60
2008..... 200,490..... 9,270..... 21.63
2009..... 199,050..... 9,360..... 21.27
2010..... 201,000..... 8,790..... 22.87
2011......199,800..... 8,910..... 22.42
2012..... 161,220..... 7,320..... 22.02
2013..... 201,600..... 9,540..... 21.13
2014..... 204,180..... 9,030..... 22.61 <------ easier to dunk
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SG's and SF's with 1 or more seasons of 100+ Dunks


1988 - 1996......................2001 - 2014

Michael Jordan.................. Kevin Durant
Dominique Wilkins............. Lebron James
Clyde Drexler.................... Dwayne Wade
Scottie Pippen................... Carmelo Anthony
Penny Hardaway................ Kobe Bryant
Grant Hill.......................... Tracy McGrady
Ron Harper ...................... Andre Iguodala
Richard Dumas.................. Rudy Gay
Stacy Augmon................... Shawn Marion
Michael Finley.................... Richard Jefferson
Jerry Stackhouse
Cedric Ceballos
Derrick McKey
Roy Hinson
Chris Morris



DUNK STATS FROM OTHER YEARS:

Total Number of Dunks for Each Player in Various Seasons (retrieved from 76er's Media Guides)

1988... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lb0whh&s=8#.U_0tH_ldX2U
1989... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ra47s3&s=8#.U_0qN_ldX2U
1990... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29aw57s&s=8#.U_0sDPldX2U
1991... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qpikcz&s=8#.U_0tS_ldX2V
1992... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=iwox8i&s=8#.VI_7OSvF_Ck
1993... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6i9zef&s=8#.U_02XvldX2U

1995... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=316rspc&s=8#.VI_53SvF_Ck
1996... http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=j82vl1&s=8#.VI_5qyvF_Ck

Harvey Pollack's Statistical Guide.. Cumulative Dunks 87'-05 (page 10)... http://www.nba.com/media/sixers/05-06SIX_p1-50.pdf
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[Uncle Drew]

I hope you step on a Lego.

[SpaceJam]

I've seen enough

Jordan>>>Westbrook

[3ball]

I hope you step on a Lego.
We've found 80's and 90's dunk stats from the old Philadelphia 76'er Media Guides (link are at the bottom of the OP) - they show that for the 6 seasons between 1988 and 1993, Jordan had 746 dunks, or an average of about 130 dunks per season.. His high was 158 (1988), and his low was 95 (1993).

By comparison, Kobe averaged 65 dunks per season in his prime (2002-2009), which was half of Jordan's totals... Westbrook only gets about 50 dunks per season, or barely 1/3 of Jordan's.. Tracy McGrady averaged 75 dunks from 2001 to 2005 (his athletic prime and highest volume period)... Vince Carter (in his prime) and Paul George only get about 50 dunks per season.

Keep in mind, the league's dunks-per-shot was lower in Jordan's era.
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[LAZERUSS]

I've seen enough

Jordan>>>Westbrook

Jordan.....


















Westbrick.

[Uncle Drew]

We've found 80's and 90's dunk stats from the old Philadelphia 76'er Media Guides (link are at the bottom of the OP) - they show that for the 6 seasons between 1988 and 1993, Jordan had 746 dunks, or an average of about 130 dunks per season.. His high was 158 (1988), and his low was 95 (1993).

By comparison, Kobe averaged 65 dunks per season in his prime (2002-2009), which was half of Jordan's totals... Westbrook only gets about 50 dunks per season, or barely 1/3 of Jordan's.. Tracy McGrady averaged 75 dunks from 2001 to 2005 (his athletic prime and highest volume period)... Vince Carter (in his prime) and Paul George only get about 50 dunks per season.
I hope you slip in the shower.

[Dray n Klay]

Pippen was 3 times as large as MJ

[3ball]

I hope you slip in the shower.
Keep in mind, the league's dunks-per-shot was lower in Jordan's era - without 3-point shooting, the paint was always packed - far less wide open dunks that guys were posting in the other thread of westbrook blowing by kawhi and then facing ZERO at-rim protection

[LAZERUSS]

With a fully healthy roster...

Westbrick would be the Warriors 5th guard...

behind GAC, Klay, Shaun, and Iggy.

[Uncle Drew]

Keep in mind, the league's dunks-per-shot was lower in Jordan's era - without 3-point shooting, the paint was always packed - far less wide open dunks that guys were posting in the other thread of westbrook blowing by kawhi and then facing ZERO at-rim protection
I hope you get a very bad cold.

[Poetry]

Stockton's lone dunk is listed there :D

[bigkingsfan]

Barkley > Jordan
confirmed

[3ball]

...NBA.COM'S STATS ON
"MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
..(all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)



.......................Midrange Efficiency .

M Jordan. 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 48.9%.. 588/1202
M Jordan. 1998 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 43.2%.. 476/1101

Westbrook 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201566/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):. 36.9%.. 164/445
Westbrook 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201566/stats/shooting/):. 42.4%.. 129/304

D Wade.. 2006 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2548/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):... 38.4%.. 174/403
D Wade.. 2012 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2548/stats/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):... 39.5%.. 115/291
D Wade.. 2013 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2548/stats/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):... 38.9%.. 144/370
D Wade.. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2548/stats/shooting/):... 36.4%.. 143/393

Derozan. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201942/stats/shooting/):... 37.5%.. 183/488

Butler. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202710/stats/shooting/):....... 35.9%.. 113/315

Lebron.. 2004 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 33.2%.. 183/551
Lebron.. 2005 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.0%.. 217/602
Lebron.. 2006 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.4%.. 242/630
Lebron.. 2007 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 35.1%.. 204/581
Lebron.. 2008 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.4%.. 185/508
Lebron.. 2009 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 36.8%.. 193/525
Lebron.. 2010 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.8%.. 188/444
Lebron.. 2011 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 44.6%.. 217/487
Lebron.. 2012 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 42.3%.. 188/444
Lebron.. 2013 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 43.2%.. 174/403
Lebron.. 2014 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 38.5%.. 126/327
Lebron.. 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 37.0%.. 127/343
Lebron.. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.... 37.1%.. 96/259

[3ball]

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^^^^ The stats in the previous post show that Jordan's 1997 season ranks #1 on the midrange shooting list by a full 5 percentage points, and his volume is 3 times more than anyone else's.. His 1998 ranks 3rd on the list, despite playing through a severe finger injury where he couldn't straighten his finger.

Otoh, Lebron's midrange efficiency is below 40% for 10 of his 13 seasons, while his 3-point percentage is below 35% for 8 of 13 seasons.. The reality is that Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler all have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency for most of their careers, yet they're still the top wing scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he had documented (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) goat midrange efficiency, which would put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gave him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrook and company..



............................5-9 feet............... 10-14 feet............. 15-19 feet.........Overall Midrange

M Jordan. 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 49.2%.. 62/126...... 51.5%... 240/466..... 49.5%.. 294/594..... 48.9%.. 588/1202

Westbrook 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201566/stats/shooting/):. 46.1%.. 47/102...... 41.9%.... 88/210..... 40.9%.... 72/176..... 42.4%... 129/304

D Wade.. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2548/stats/shooting/):... 40.0%.. 82/205...... 33.7%.... 57/169..... 34.8%.. 116/307..... 37.4%... 174/465

Derozan. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201942/stats/shooting/):... 41.8%.. 71/170...... 42.5%.... 96/226...... 38.9%.. 129/332..... 38.0%... 211/555

Butler. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202710/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):...... 36.7%... 29/79....... 36.9%.... 41/111...... 37.9%... 78/206...... 36.8%... 138/375

Lebron.. 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.....38.1%.. 43/113...... 33.3%..... 33/99...... 42.4%.... 64/151...... 35.1%... 118/357
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[3ball]

Westbrick



Westbrook isn't the only wing that can't shoot..

The midrange stats from nba.com that were posted in the last 2 posts show that Lebron, Wade, Derozan, Westbrook and Butler have ALL had sub-par 3-point and midrange for most of their careers - but they're still the top wing scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allow easier access to the rim than ever before.

Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ the same way, except he had documented (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) goat midrange efficiency, which put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gave him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrook and company..
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[BlakFrankWhite]

Jordan.....


















Westbrick



















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Ftfy

[MJ(Mean John)]

We've found 80's and 90's dunk stats from the old Philadelphia 76'er Media Guides (link are at the bottom of the OP) - they show that for the 6 seasons between 1988 and 1993, Jordan had 746 dunks, or an average of about 130 dunks per season.. His high was 158 (1988), and his low was 95 (1993).

By comparison, Kobe averaged 65 dunks per season in his prime (2002-2009), which was half of Jordan's totals... Westbrook only gets about 50 dunks per season, or barely 1/3 of Jordan's.. Tracy McGrady averaged 75 dunks from 2001 to 2005 (his athletic prime and highest volume period)... Vince Carter (in his prime) and Paul George only get about 50 dunks per season.

Keep in mind, the league's dunks-per-shot was lower in Jordan's era.
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What's your point?

[3ball]

What's your point?
I'm showing how much more of a physical force the 6'6" Jordan was than Westbrook.

Westbrook's league-leading scoring (in 2015) and top 3 status in the league shows that Jordan would easily be the best player today, just like he was in previous eras.

This is especially true considering Jordan was a goat midrange shooter, while Westbrook can't shoot, just like many of the league's top wings - the nba.com stats on the previous page (post #13 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12352968&postcount=13)) show that Lebron, Wade, Derozan, Westbrook and Butler have ALL had sub-par 3-point and midrange for most of their careers, but they're still the top wing scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allow easier access to the rim than ever before.

Today's spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ the same way, except he had documented (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) goat midrange efficiency, which put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gave him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrook and company..

[Flashback]

Hello guys.

Unfortunately the images with some informations about the dunks of Michael Jordan by any NBA season is not more available... can you help me to find those stats?

Total Dunks of Michael Jordan during each NBA regular season plus playoffs:

1984/85 - ???
1985/86 - ???
1986/87 - ???
1987/88 - 158 + ???
1988/89 - ???
1989/90 - ???
1990/91 - ???
1991/92 - ???
1992/93 - 95 + ???
1994/95 - ???
1995/96 - 98 + 7: 105/100 (1.05)
1996/97 - 50 + 19: 69/101 (0.68)* On basketball-reference.com is indicated 49 + 18 but I find a video on YouTube with 69 total dunks! Is also indicated that: "Shot type and location data quality from the 1990s is inconsistent. Esp. 1996-97."
1997/98 - 89 + 14: 103/103 (1.00)
2001/02 - 20: 20/60 (0.33)
2002/03 - 21: 21/82 (0.26)

Thanks in advance for any help!

P.S.: There is a chance to find those old copies of the Harvey Pollack Statistical Yearbook???

[tontoz]

Hello guys.

Unfortunately the images with some informations about the dunks of Michael Jordan by any NBA season is not more available... can you help me to find those stats?

Total Dunks of Michael Jordan during each NBA regular season plus playoffs:

1984/85 - ???
1985/86 - ???
1986/87 - ???
1987/88 - 158 + ???
1988/89 - ???
1989/90 - ???
1990/91 - ???
1991/92 - ???
1992/93 - 95 + ???
1994/95 - ???
1995/96 - 98 + 7: 105/100 (1.05)
1996/97 - 50 + 19: 69/101 (0.68)* On basketball-reference.com is indicated 49 + 18 but I find a video on YouTube with 69 total dunks! Is also indicated that: "Shot type and location data quality from the 1990s is inconsistent. Esp. 1996-97."
1997/98 - 89 + 14: 103/103 (1.00)
2001/02 - 20: 20/60 (0.33)
2002/03 - 21: 21/82 (0.26)

Thanks in advance for any help!


You created an alt to bump a 5 year old thread?

:facepalm

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/MK4qbwGH/russ-over-mike.jpg

[3ba11]

https://i.postimg.cc/MK4qbwGH/russ-over-mike.jpg


Kobe only played old MJ

[Mr. Woke]

Paint defenses were putrid in the 80s and 90s.

[Flashback]

You created an alt to bump a 5 year old thread?

:facepalm

Sorry for create a problem on the forum with my previous post...:(