One thing I like about Obama...he has deported a record number of people

[9erempiree]

This is probably the only thing I like about him.

Obama has deported a record number of immigrants and his approval rating is pretty high because of this.

The American public wants this to continue and Trump will continue and finish what Obama has started. Only thing Trump can learn from Obama and that is to keep quiet about deportations from the public.

Lets unite and make this country stronger and better than ever.

[NumberSix]

This is probably the only thing I like about him.

Obama has deported a record number of immigrants and his approval rating is pretty high because of this.

The American public wants this to continue and Trump will continue and finish what Obama has started. Only thing Trump can learn from Obama and that is to keep quiet about deportations from the public.

Lets unite and make this country stronger and better than ever.
He actually hasn't. He just changed what the legal definition of "deportation" is. Not a joke. This is actually reality under Obama. Now, people that aren't let in in the first place are counted as "deportations".

[nathanjizzle]

obama is one of the greats, it would be a damn shame if the likes of trump follows up his 8 year tenure.

[UK2K]

He actually hasn't. He just changed what the legal definition of "deportation" is. Not a joke. This is actually reality under Obama. Now, people that aren't let in in the first place are counted as "deportations".
Absolutely false.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/05/Deportations-Plummet-As-ICE-Recieves-More-Resources-Chart.png

Numbers don't lie.

[9erempiree]

obama is one of the greats, it would be a damn shame if the likes of trump follows up his 8 year tenure.


He created Trump.

Obama is pretty good in immigration.

[Nick Young]

There is a reason Latinos call him the Deporter in Chief.

[senelcoolidge]

Has he brought in record numbers of muslims in the meanwhile?

[TheMan]

There is a reason Latinos call him the Deporter in Chief.
You're quite the racist cosidering you're a Jew.

I've never heard anyone refer to Obama that way and thanks for stereotyping all illegal immigrants as Latinos :applause: Great job Jude schwul :cheers:

[9erempiree]

You're quite the racist cosidering you're a Jew.

I've never heard anyone refer to Obama that way and thanks for stereotyping all illegal immigrants as Latinos :applause: Great job Jude schwul :cheers:

He is great on immigration and yes, they call him that.

I have no problems with that name but i like it and i hope he deports more. His favorability rating is high due to it.

[NumberSix]

You're quite the racist cosidering you're a Jew.

I've never heard anyone refer to Obama that way and thanks for stereotyping all illegal immigrants as Latinos :applause: Great job Jude schwul :cheers:
You've NEVER heard Obama referred to as "deporter in chief" by Latino groups? You've never heard that before?

:wtf:

[DonDadda59]

He actually hasn't. He just changed what the legal definition of "deportation" is. Not a joke. This is actually reality under Obama. Now, people that aren't let in in the first place are counted as "deportations".

This is a half truth at best. The majority of the deportations are occurring at the border (60-65%) and of the remaining, the majority of those are people with criminal records. People who are settled and working (and paying taxes) are seeing 40% less deportations under Obama.

[9erempiree]

Obama is a beast on immigrants and praised for it.

Wait till you see Trump.

[Long Duck Dong]

You're quite the racist cosidering you're a Jew.

I've never heard anyone refer to Obama that way and thanks for stereotyping all illegal immigrants as Latinos :applause: Great job Jude schwul :cheers:

Poor guy taking Ls left and right :roll:

http://www.notonemoredeportation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/phx-daca-all-456x300.jpg

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-03-10-oOBAMAPROTESTSCALIFORNIA570.jpg

[Nick Young]

You're quite the racist cosidering you're a Jew.

I've never heard anyone refer to Obama that way and thanks for stereotyping all illegal immigrants as Latinos :applause: Great job Jude schwul :cheers:
Latino isn't a race. It is impossible to be racist to a cultural group consisting of French, Italian, Spanish, Portugese and Romanian Europeans, not to mention Central and South Americans.

There are many latinos who refer to Obama as the Deporter in Chief. This is a known fact.

Please educate yourself on the subject.

Here is an article to aid your education bro :cheers:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20160108-story.html

The only person stereotyping ALL latinos and ALL Jews is you, bro. Check your privilege and please refrain from logical fallacy in future posts. Thanks, have a happy Mothers Day :)

[9erempiree]

Latino isn't a race. It is impossible to be racist to a cultural group consisting of French, Italian, Spanish, Portugese and Romanian Europeans, not to mention Central and South Americans.

There are many latinos who refer to Obama as the Deporter in Chief. This is a known fact.

Please educate yourself on the subject.

Here is an article to aid your education bro :cheers:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20160108-story.html

The only person stereotyping ALL latinos and ALL Jews is you, bro. Check your privilege and please refrain from logical fallacy in future posts. Thanks, have a happy Mothers Day :)

GOAT eulogy.

[TheMan]

You've NEVER heard Obama referred to as "deporter in chief" by Latino groups? You've never heard that before?

:wtf:
No, honestly I didn't know it was a "thing".

Guess what, not all Latinos watch Spanish TV (where I suppose that's where it will get the most play). I also don't watch mainstream news and quite frankly, illegal immigration just doesn't interest me at all. Of all the things I oppose Trump on, his stance on illegal immigration is really low in importance to me :confusedshrug:

I don't have illegal immigrant family nor friends, so I give zero fvcks on the issue.

The only thing I've ever said was that Trump can build a wall all he wants, but he's a moron if he thinks Mexico is gonna pay for it.

[DonDadda59]

ICE statistics for Obama's tenure:

https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/images/fy2015removalStatsFig1a.png

https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/images/fy2015removalStatsFig1.png



2015 Stats

*ICE conducted 235,413 removals.

*ICE conducted 69,478 removals of individuals apprehended by ICE officers (i.e., interior removals) (Figure 2).

*63,539 (91%) of all interior removals were previously convicted of a crime.

*ICE conducted 165,935 removals of individuals apprehended at or near the border or ports of entry.3

*59% of all ICE removals, or 139,368, were previously convicted of a crime.

*ICE conducted 63,539 interior criminal removals.

* ICE removed 75,829 criminals apprehended at or near the border or ports of entry.

* 98 percent of all ICE FY 2015 removals, or 230,715, met one or more of ICE’s stated civil immigration enforcement priorities.

*Of the 96,045 individuals removed who had no criminal conviction, 94 percent, or 90,106, were apprehended at or near the border or ports of entry.

* The leading countries of origin for removals were Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.

*1,040 individuals removed by ICE were classified as suspected or confirmed gang members.

Getting rid of the criminals and gang members, keeping the productive law-abiding, hard-working tax payers (http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/16/Study-Finds-Illegal-Immigrants-Pay-118B-Taxes). :bowdown:

[9erempiree]

No, honestly I didn't know it was a "thing".

Guess what, not all Latinos watch Spanish TV (where I suppose that's where it will get the most play). I also don't watch mainstream news and quite frankly, illegal immigration just doesn't interest me at all. Of all the things I oppose Trump on, his stance on illegal immigration is really low in importance to me :confusedshrug:

I don't have illegal immigrant family nor friends, so I give zero fvcks on the issue.

The only thing I've ever said was that Trump can build a wall all he wants, but he's a moron if he thinks Mexico is gonna pay for it.

This isn't about Trump although I hope he continues on with what Obama is doing.

This is about Obama's great immigration policy.

Don't know how Obama missed you though. You've explained it many times before that you are real close to the border and that you are a Mexican who intends to move back to Mexico. Unless you have dual citizenship that makes you Mexican-American -or- you are just trolling and really an American.

[9erempiree]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]ICE statistics for Obama's tenure:

https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/images/fy2015removalStatsFig1a.png

https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/images/fy2015removalStatsFig1.png

[INDENT]
2015 Stats

*ICE conducted 235,413 removals.

*ICE conducted 69,478 removals of individuals apprehended by ICE officers (i.e., interior removals) (Figure 2).

*63,539 (91%) of all interior removals were previously convicted of a crime.

*ICE conducted 165,935 removals of individuals apprehended at or near the border or ports of entry.3

*59% of all ICE removals, or 139,368, were previously convicted of a crime.

*ICE conducted 63,539 interior criminal removals.

* ICE removed 75,829 criminals apprehended at or near the border or ports of entry.

* 98 percent of all ICE FY 2015 removals, or 230,715, met one or more of ICE

[TheMan]

This isn't about Trump although I hope he continues on with what Obama is doing.

This is about Obama's great immigration policy.

Don't know how Obama missed you though. You've explained it many times before that you are real close to the border and that you are a Mexican who intends to move back to Mexico. Unless you have dual citizenship that makes you Mexican-American -or- you are just trolling and really an American.
Obama didn't miss me you retard, I'm a US citizen living in San Antonio, TX.

I'm not surprised that you don't know shit since you are a very ignorant person and the opposite of worldly but did you know that US citizens move to other countries all the time (like that British Jew Nick Young) and can do so freely and return to the US if they ever choose to? I'm moving to Mexico because I'm choosing to live there, is it really that complicated :confusedshrug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ETmvxLf7s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[9erempiree]

Obama didn't miss me you retard, I'm a US citizen living in San Antonio, TX.

I'm not surprised that you don't know shit since you are a very ignorant person and the opposite of worldly but did you know that US citizens move to other countries and can do so freely and return to the US if they ever choose to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ETmvxLf7s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I read correctly.

You told people you were Mexican and proud of it and you also said you intend to move back there, your own words, to be with your family again....it wasn't till recently you started saying you were an American.:hammerhead:

I really don't care where you have your citizenship but one thing we can agree on is that our country needs to deport more people.

[DonDadda59]

Obama is a beast on immigration.

Can Trump replicate this or do better?

We're all hoping he can do what Obama is doing. Probably better since Trump's goals are 11 million and Obama is close to 3 million.

Virtually all economists agree that Drumpf's plan would lead the U.S. into a deep recession or a depression.


Economists savage Trump's economic agenda

...said Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics and an adviser to John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign. “But if Trump’s policies were enacted it would be some form of disaster for the economy. If you force 11 million undocumented immigrants to leave in a year, you would be looking at a depression. It would not help the people he is talking to, they would be the first to go down.”

The reasons for this are simple, economists say. The economy is close to reaching “full employment," adding another 292,000 jobs in December. The jobless rate remained at 5 percent.

If 11 million immigrants were rounded up and removed from the country, many of the jobs they do — including restaurant, hotel and low-end construction work — could go largely unfilled, economists say. That would create a large and immediate hit to gross domestic product growth and the effects would ripple out to companies that supply goods and services to all those businesses. There would also be 11 million fewer people consuming goods and services, further driving down economic activity.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-economy-217496

Donald Trump's Economic Plans Would Destroy the U.S. Economy
Make America have a recession again.

The problem begins with his outspoken approach to Mexican immigration. His “plan” to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants would shrink the economy by about 2 percent, according to American Action Forum (AAF), a conservative and pro-business think tank. The sudden subtraction of 7 million workers would cause an immediate shock to thousands of businesses, triggering a GDP collapse ranging from $400 billion to $600 billion in production, AAF’s analysis found, with the worst of the slump occurring in industries like construction and hospitality. "The things Donald Trump has said are utterly unworkable," Douglas Holtz-Eakin, an economic adviser to Senator John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign and the forum's president, told Reuters.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/

The Biggest, Greatest, Most Terrific Recession
A Donald Trump presidency would cause the U.S. economy to collapse.


Third and last, we turn to Trump’s brand of immigration reform, which wouldn’t help the economy either. Economists have found little negative effect on Americans’ wages from immigration. On the other hand, mass deportation and a blockade against immigrants trying to come into the country could have serious negative consequences, knocking $1.6 trillion off of our gross domestic product. Immigrants are projected to provide nearly all growth in the labor force for the next 40 years, but deporting them would shrink it by 6.4 percent over 20 years.

Of course, it would also cost a lot of money to deport so many people—about $400 billion to $600 billion. Overall, Trump’s prescriptions are pretty pricy: Added altogether, the conservative Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget found that his policies would add between $11.7 trillion and $15.1 trillion to the national debt, including interest payments.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/03/donald_trump_s_presidency_would_create_a_deep_rece ssion.html

Wise up, son. Let's keep America great, not sink it into another GOP led recession or even depression. :cheers:

[TheMan]

I read correctly.

You told people you were Mexican and proud of it and you also said you intend to move back there, your own words, to be with your family again....it wasn't till recently you started saying you were an American.:hammerhead:

I really don't care where you have your citizenship but one thing we can agree on is that our country needs to deport more people.
I've always mentioned the fact that my family on my dad's side were Texans before it became part of the US :confusedshrug: In other words, we aren't recent arrivals. Some of my family have been in the US since the 1850s and some have never left Mexico and some go back and forth legally (dual citizenship).

[Nick Young]

No, honestly I didn't know it was a "thing".

Guess what, not all Latinos watch Spanish TV (where I suppose that's where it will get the most play). I also don't watch mainstream news and quite frankly, illegal immigration just doesn't interest me at all. Of all the things I oppose Trump on, his stance on illegal immigration is really low in importance to me :confusedshrug:

I don't have illegal immigrant family nor friends, so I give zero fvcks on the issue.

The only thing I've ever said was that Trump can build a wall all he wants, but he's a moron if he thinks Mexico is gonna pay for it.
Some Latinos don't watch Spanish TV, but talk to each other. That is how the nickname "Deporter in Chief" gathered enough grass roots support for it to be mentioned on mainstream television.


Please refrain from generalizing all Latinos in the future. It is unfair to judge an entire culture of people based on broadly painted generalities built only on your own personal anecdotal evidence.

The Latinos are a beautiful and vibrantly diverse culture, and deserve to be held to the same standards and treated the same as every other cultural group on the planet.

Technically I myself am a Latino due to my Spanish ancestry from 100 years ago. I relate to your plight.

Thank you friend, and en espagnol, gracias amigo.

Feliz d

[Long Duck Dong]

The only thing I've ever said was that Trump can build a wall all he wants, but he's a moron if he thinks Mexico is gonna pay for it.

If he charges a border entrance fee or taxes money transfers into Latin American, they will absolutely 100% pay for everything, whether they like it or not. It's only fair as we have to pay a huge sum of money because of Mexican human traffic into the US.

[TheMan]

If he charges a border entrance fee or taxes money transfers into Latin American, they will absolutely 100% pay for everything, whether they like it or not. It's only fair as we have to pay a huge sum of money because of Mexican human traffic into the US.
Or instead of building an expensive ass wall and the cost of maintenance that'll go with it, how about really cracking down on businesses that knowingly hire illegal and CHEAP labor :confusedshrug:

That's all it would really take but rich businessmen (Republicans) really don't want that and that's what the Trump yokels don't really understand.

[TheMan]

[QUOTE=Nick Young]Some Latinos don't watch Spanish TV, but talk to each other. That is how the nickname "Deporter in Chief" gathered enough grass roots support for it to be mentioned on mainstream television.


Please refrain from generalizing all Latinos in the future. It is unfair to judge an entire culture of people based on broadly painted generalities built only on your own personal anecdotal evidence.

The Latinos are a beautiful and vibrantly diverse culture, and deserve to be held to the same standards and treated the same as every other cultural group on the planet.

Technically I myself am a Latino due to my Spanish ancestry from 100 years ago. I relate to your plight.

Thank you friend, and en espagnol, gracias amigo.

Feliz d

[Nick Young]

Please, Jews aren't real Spaniards :no:

That's why y'all got expelled from La Madre Patria along with the Gypsies and Moors.

relajarse, amigo.

The Spanish comes from the Catholic side of my Father's family, not my Jewish mother's side.

They left Galicia on their own free will to settle on an isla that Americans might know by the name of Cuba. Today, there is still a town in Galicia named after my family's name.

I am indeed a Latino, just like you. We are latino hermanos, you and I.:cheers:

It is very possible that you were in the United States before my father's family was, meaning that you have more gringo in you than I do. Imagine that!

There is no need to be so furioso, hombre.

We Latinos need to stick together.:cheers:

Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera are two examples of Latino Jews that you might have heard about.

Latinos are a beautiful and vibrant culture found all around the world, represented by many races who follow many different creeds, that are all equally hermosa in their own way.

Viva la raza.

Paz en la tierra!

[Nick Young]

If he charges a border entrance fee or taxes money transfers into Latin American, they will absolutely 100% pay for everything, whether they like it or not. It's only fair as we have to pay a huge sum of money because of Mexican human traffic into the US.
Yes. It seems like this is going to be the case.

The Mexican government needs to protect its people from being illegally human trafficked across the border and turned in to drug mules.

Clamping down on illegal immigration will hopefully help curb the human traffic epidemic that has been plaguing Mexico for decades.

If the Mexican government isn't going to protect it's own people, it is time for us to protect our Mexican neighbors.

[FillJackson]

There are no longer statistics for "deportations." Haven't been since the 90's.

"Deportations" are now categorized as either a removal or a return. Removals are more formal, you go before a judge, you are barred from entered the US for any reason for 5 to 20 years.

Returns meant you were you were returned to your country. This was sometimes criticized as "Catch and Release."

Under Obama Removals are way up and Returns are way down. Also a greater percentage of Removals are people with a criminal record.

Usually illegal border crossing resulted in a return, not it's likely to result in a removal.

Also illegal immigration has been negative for several years under Obama. That is more illegal immigrants headed back to Mexico than crossed into the US. This was mainly due to the financial crisis. So this probably affects statistics as well.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/16/the-numbers-ted-cruz-cited-on-past-deportations-during-the-cnn-debate-were-way-off/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/

[9erempiree]

No worries.

Trump will do the same.

[NumberSix]

That's all it would really take but rich businessmen (Republicans) really don't want that and that's what the Trump yokels don't really understand.
Actually, his supporters understand that completely. That's the entire reason they back Trump who blatantly isn't a conservative. They know all too well that the republican establishment has no intention whatsoever on cracking down on illegal hiring and they understand that the reason is that big business doesn't want it cracked down on because they want the cheap labor.

You really just show that you've never spoke to any of these people and have never made a single effort to learn what they think. At least conservatives make an attempt to understand what the other sides views are. The left don't even know what the hell the other sides position is. They just plug their ears and tell themselves "nothing to see here. They're just racist. No need to listen to these people".