If you don't have LeBron as the best player in the league, you should get banned

[k0kakw0rld]

Why? I don't really know what sport you are watching but it's certainly not basketball. Which means you do not understan a thing.

ONE - It does not mean because you score more that you are a better player.

If you pretend to know anything about basketball, you will understand if not, what are you doing in a basketball forum? :confusedshrug:

Look, Kawhi defends but no way I will rely on him to be my first offensive option.

Durant probably the best scorer in the game today but he does not control the pace of a game like a Bron. He can't create out of his ass like LeBron does. He can not impact the game on both ends like LeBron does. His lenght gives us the impression that he is an average defender but he is in fact a below average defender.

[dubnation]

Umm, healthy Curry? :facepalm

I'd pencil it Bron at #2 though. Amazing what he's still capable of 13 years into his career. The career stats in a few years will be mind-boggling.

[Showtime2001]

Curry is better get over it.

[TheMarkMadsen]

He doesn't even lead his team in the bran Stan criteria of

PER
W/S 48
Efficiency
Efg
Scoring

[CeltsGarlic]

Absolutely agree. Its fvcking disgusting that these people are allowed to post between us normals.

[Dresta]

Yeah, Brans defense has been first rate this season :facepalm

[ScalsFan21]

Why? I don't really know what sport you are watching but it's certainly not basketball. Which means you do not understan a thing.

ONE - It does not mean because you score more that you are a better player.

If you pretend to know anything about basketball, you will understand if not, what are you doing in a basketball forum? :confusedshrug:

Look, Kawhi defends but no way I will rely on him to be my first offensive option.

Durant probably the best scorer in the game today but he does not control the pace of a game like a Bron. He can't create out of his ass like LeBron does. He can not impact the game on both ends like LeBron does. His lenght gives us the impression that he is an average defender but he is in fact a below average defender.

Best scorer is between Curry and KD, edge to Curry.

Greatest positive offensive impact? Yeah... it's probably still LeBeast James (although I get the argument for Curry who is amazing) and that's the only area of the game where potential unanimous MVP Steph can even compete with him.

[Lebronxrings]

majority of people who don't have him as best player as either trolls or kobetards. Most real, objective fans still have him as number 1. Go to somewhere like realgm and many still say Lebron is the best player in the world.

[dubnation]

Yeah, Brans defense has been first rate this season :facepalm

It actually has been really good... Definitely showed a lot more effort on D this year compared to the last few. Obviously not on Kawhi's level, but he rated as the #2 small forward on D according to +/-.

[Lebronxrings]

He doesn't even lead his team in the bran Stan criteria of

PER
W/S 48
Efficiency
Efg
Scoring
how about you let the playoffs end before saying this crap? :facepalm

[fiddy]

Curry
Kawhi
Westbrook
KD









Bran

He barely scratches top5 tbh

[Im Still Ballin]

Yeah, Brans defense has been first rate this season :facepalm
You're usually a smart guy Dresta, but this was dumb. Check the stats amigo.

[SpaceJam]

If you support more than 5 NBA teams you should be banned tbh

[Born Sinner]

Give me curry or kd over him any day of the week.
curry wpn mvp and will win another title this summer. Maybe even a finals mvp.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Anyone that takes KD over LeBron is a drooling r.etard

[Im Still Ballin]

The usual field goal percent of the shooter that the player is defending

LeBron - 44.8%
Kawhi - 44.9%

Defense Dashboard
2pt FGs - Players shot 8.2% worse than their average when defended by LeBron

2pt FGs - Players shot 7.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi

3pt FGs - Players shots 2.7% worse than their average when defended by LeBron

3pt FGs - Players shot 1.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi

Overall - Players shot 7.4% worse than their average when defended by LeBron on 8.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Overall - Players shot 5.7% worse than their average

when defended by Kawhi on 9.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Play type

When they were the closest isolation defender
LeBron - 69 possessions, .59 points per possession allowed, 28.8% eFG

Kawhi - 61 possessions, .69 points per possession allowed, 31% eFG

When they were the closest defender to the PnR ball handler
LeBron - 144 possessions, .66 ppp allowed, 37.1 eFG

Kawhi - 243 possessions, .65 ppp allowed, 35.8 eFG

When they were the roll man defender
LeBron - 10 possessions, .7 ppp, 38.9 eFG

Kawhi - 30 possessions, .5 ppp, 27.8 eFG

Post defense
LeBron - 43 possessions, .77 ppp, 40 eFG

Kawhi - 31 possessions, .77 ppp, 41.7 eFG

On spot up shooters
LeBron - 210 possessions, .8 ppp, 41.6 eFG

Kawhi - 200 possessions, .88 ppp, 43.6 eFG

Hand-offs
LeBron - 43 possessions, .49 ppp, 33.9 eFG

Leonard - 58 possessions, .72 ppp, 39.5 eFG

Off screens
LeBron - 78 possessions, .74 ppp, 40.8 eFG

Kawhi - 96 possessions, 1.05 ppp, 51.2 eFG

[FreezingTsmoove]

Im the type of man who decides who the best player is based on how they do in the finals tbh, not a couple games against the Hawks and Pistons

[jimmy77x]

Curry's the best player in the world now, stans will just have to deal with it. Years of media brainwashing has these bran fanboys shook.

[Disaprine]

He doesn't even lead his team in the bran Stan criteria of

PER
W/S 48
Efficiency
Efg
Scoring
thread/

[leMVP]

Until we say Curry can turn any team into instant contenders, LeBeast will still be the best in the world!

[ballinhun8]

Curry's the best player in the world now, stans will just have to deal with it. Years of media brainwashing has these bran fanboys shook.



THIS.


Plain and simple.

[34-24 Footwork]

Curry's the best player in the world now, stans will just have to deal with it. Years of media brainwashing has these bran fanboys shook.

This. Flopping, traveling, broken jumpshot, no footwork and fading athleticism/first step.

We thought his 2011 finals drop off was bad....dude is one injury away from 6th man production.

[Papaya Petee]

This. Flopping, traveling, broken jumpshot, no footwork and fading athleticism/first step.

We thought his 2011 finals drop off was bad....dude is one injury away from 6th man production.
:roll: 25\8\7 on 51% FG is one drop away from 6th man production? KYS

[livinglegend]

The usual field goal percent of the shooter that the player is defending

LeBron - 44.8%
Kawhi - 44.9%

Defense Dashboard
2pt FGs - Players shot 8.2% worse than their average when defended by LeBron

2pt FGs - Players shot 7.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi

3pt FGs - Players shots 2.7% worse than their average when defended by LeBron

3pt FGs - Players shot 1.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi

Overall - Players shot 7.4% worse than their average when defended by LeBron on 8.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Overall - Players shot 5.7% worse than their average

when defended by Kawhi on 9.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Play type

When they were the closest isolation defender
LeBron - 69 possessions, .59 points per possession allowed, 28.8% eFG

Kawhi - 61 possessions, .69 points per possession allowed, 31% eFG

When they were the closest defender to the PnR ball handler
LeBron - 144 possessions, .66 ppp allowed, 37.1 eFG

Kawhi - 243 possessions, .65 ppp allowed, 35.8 eFG

When they were the roll man defender
LeBron - 10 possessions, .7 ppp, 38.9 eFG

Kawhi - 30 possessions, .5 ppp, 27.8 eFG

Post defense
LeBron - 43 possessions, .77 ppp, 40 eFG

Kawhi - 31 possessions, .77 ppp, 41.7 eFG

On spot up shooters
LeBron - 210 possessions, .8 ppp, 41.6 eFG

Kawhi - 200 possessions, .88 ppp, 43.6 eFG

Hand-offs
LeBron - 43 possessions, .49 ppp, 33.9 eFG

Leonard - 58 possessions, .72 ppp, 39.5 eFG

Off screens
LeBron - 78 possessions, .74 ppp, 40.8 eFG

Kawhi - 96 possessions, 1.05 ppp, 51.2 eFG

DAMN

[k0kakw0rld]

Umm, healthy Curry? :facepalm

I'd pencil it Bron at #2 though. Amazing what he's still capable of 13 years into his career. The career stats in a few years will be mind-boggling.
Get rid of the moving screens and get back to me after. Call me when Draymond green is not on his team or when he can impact the game on both ends of the floor. Most feared offensive player does not equal best player, I'm sorry.

[DukeDelonte13]

Im the type of man who decides who the best player is based on how they do in the finals tbh, not a couple games against the Hawks and Pistons


What about the 2015 finals where Lebron got more consideration for FMVP than Curry despite playing for the losing team?

[Steven Kerry]

OP should be banned for not having back to back MVP as the current best player.

[stalkerforlife]

Funny thing is...I am often banned for the sentiment expressed. I was permanently banned on RealGM for not buying into the fraudulent hype.

The ONLY way Bran is elevated is by the silencing of his high basketball IQ detractors.

Branvestites HATE competition just like their hero.

[Klay 3D]

Hold your horses. Kyrie has a better PER (Lebron stat) than Lebron in the post-season.

[hold this L]

http://replygif.net/i/759.gif
It's going to be ok. :pimp:

[Straight_Ballin]

Lebron is certainly not the best player in the league. That's like saying kobe was the best player in the league from 2010-2016 :lol

Kids and then men they stan.....

I can't wait till 2/7 happens.

I wonder how long it will take after this years finals for these bran stans to start changing their avatars to GSW and Curry.:roll:

[SwayDizzle]

LJs reign is over. he was the best player until last year.

[theaussieguy]

i dont get whats so hard about understanding this. If the MVP was actually defined by what it describes, as the most 'valuable' to a teams success, it would be Lebron.

However the MVP describes the 'best'. In that regard it is no doubt Curry. It doesn't matter that he can't carry a team like Lebron, it doesn't matter that hes not as good on defense as he is on offense. All that matters is that he has an asset that elevates his team above and beyond every other. What good is it being able to carry a team like Lebron when at the end of the day basketball comes down to getting shots at a crucial point in time and in the finals more times than not his spotty offensive game doesnt cut it. This is what Steph Curry does, this is why he is the best. His team lays the groundwork, and he puts the cherry on top.

[TheMarkMadsen]

how about you let the playoffs end before saying this crap? :facepalm


So he can make the ecf while not even leading his team in any of your fans bases go to stats AND YET you still have the nerve to act like he's the best in the game. :roll: :roll:

According to your own idiotic logic he's been carried to the ecf.

[tmacattack33]

Lebron's been great this post-season. KD was underperforming before last night's big game.

And nobody knows what Curry will look like when he comes back.

[k0kakw0rld]

If you support more than 5 NBA teams you should be banned tbh
It does not apply to me I'm sorry. Can you name them? :confusedshrug:
You seem a lot about me. A lot more than I do myself LOL rent free

[k0kakw0rld]

Lebron is certainly not the best player in the league. That's like saying kobe was the best player in the league from 2010-2016 :lol

Kids and then men they stan.....

I can't wait till 2/7 happens.

I wonder how long it will take after this years finals for these bran stans to start changing their avatars to GSW and Curry.:roll:
2/7 or 2/8 does not change the fact that he could carry 30 teams out of 30 teams to a playoff spot in any conference if asked.

[TheMarkMadsen]

2/7 or 2/8 does not change the fact that he could carry 30 teams out of 30 teams to a playoff spot in any conference if asked.


:roll: :roll:

[Old Man River]

Well I think Cleveland wins this year with healthy Love against injured Curry.

[Keno]

it's clear as day lebron is still the best player in the league. his impact on and off the court, even at the old age of 31, is still the best in nba history.

[Inferno]

Curry's better.

[raprap]

This. Flopping, traveling, broken jumpshot, no footwork and fading athleticism/first step.

We thought his 2011 finals drop off was bad....dude is one injury away from 6th man production.
Another gem from this retard. :oldlol:

[3ball]

.
Lebron's stats are lower in these playoffs because he's playing more off-ball, which allows Love and Kyrie to play to full capacity.. But his off-ball play also sacrifices his OWN production because he isn't a good enough off-ball player to get 30 ppg, LIKE JORDAN DID.

With Jordan-led teams, EVERYONE played to full capacity because he could get 30 ppg playing off-ball.. But with Lebron, it's one or the other (either Lebron plays to full capacity, OR his teammates do... never both)... That's why Jordan's teams were way better.

[Magic 32]

Ohh the bluster of May.

Every year :facepalm

Get it all out losers.

[oarabbus]

Anyone that takes KD over LeBron is a drooling r.etard

Not even KDs mom takes him over LeBron as the best player in the league

[Chokefree]

it's clear as day lebron is still the best player in the league. his impact on and off the court, even at the old age of 31, is still the best in nba history.
ok kid calm down, you forgot to finish cleaning my toilets

[AintNoSunshine]

Curry
Kawhi
Westbrook
KD









Bran

He barely scratches top5 tbh

:oldlol: :oldlol: KD and Westbrook combined can't even hold the King's jock

Kawhi is nice but is an all star but in no way a superstar

Curry is better at scoring the ball but no overall better.

King remains the King.

#3 All-Time as of today.

[Ca$H]

:oldlol: :oldlol: KD and Westbrook combined can't even hold the King's jock

Kawhi is nice but is an all star but in no way a superstar

Curry is better at scoring the ball but no overall better.

King remains the King.

#3 All-Time as of today.

Curry is the reigning, defending undisputed champion/MVP/Best Player. In order be the man you have to beat the man.

[The Iron Fist]

Somewhere, op is crying.

[uber]

Somewhere, op is crying.

since he's a fan of nearly every team in the league it doesn't matter

[SpaceJam]

Gtfo.

[Klayup]

Op snorting that k0ka

[PickernRoller]

Ban OP.

[Steven Kerry]

Can the OP be banned now? :roll:

Curry keeps winning.

[bobopenguin]

op is now officially out of dwill family.

[SexSymbol]

Curry
Leonard
then lebron KD and westbrook are interchangeable

[Kiddlovesnets]

Lebron is the 3rd best player in NBA right now, below Curry and Leonard.

[knicksman]

since he's a fan of nearly every team in the league it doesn't matter

Op stans almost anyone and still the combined players he stanned cant beat steph. Definition of an ultimate loser:lol

[knicksman]

:oldlol: :oldlol: KD and Westbrook combined can't even hold the King's jock

Kawhi is nice but is an all star but in no way a superstar

Curry is better at scoring the ball but no overall better.

King remains the King.

#3 All-Time as of today.

KD just destroyed the spurs while spurs constantly shits on bran:lol

[Gileraracer]

Bran: overrated defender, cannot shoot, travels a lot, chokes, needs DWade to win championships.

Best player in the world :roll: what a weak era

[Blue&Orange]

Why? I don't really know what sport you are watching but it's certainly not basketball. Which means you do not understan a thing.

ONE - It does not mean because you score more that you are a better player.

If you pretend to know anything about basketball, you will understand if not, what are you doing in a basketball forum? :confusedshrug:

Look, Kawhi defends but no way I will rely on him to be my first offensive option.

Durant probably the best scorer in the game today but he does not control the pace of a game like a Bron. He can't create out of his ass like LeBron does. He can not impact the game on both ends like LeBron does. His lenght gives us the impression that he is an average defender but he is in fact a below average defender.

You are confusing statpadder with basketball player.

Passing the ball to Jr that makes a contested 3, isn't creating out of his ass, Lebron creates shit.

[k0kakw0rld]

You are confusing statpadder with basketball player.

Passing the ball to Jr that makes a contested 3, isn't creating out of his ass, Lebron creates shit.
That is one example out of many many plays, buddy.
The man literally plays quarterback, reads defenses better than your average PG. He can score when needed and become magic when needed also. The most complete player the world has ever seen.

[Ca$H]

That is one example out of many many plays, buddy.
The man literally plays quarterback, reads defenses better than your average PG. He can score when needed and become magic when needed also. The most complete player the world has ever seen.

There isn't a single aspect of basketball than Bran is the best ever at. Curry- best shooter ever. Magic- best floor general/ passer ever. Jordan- best scorer ever. Bran is above average at everything but jumpshots but being well rounded doesn't equate to being the best.

[warriorfan]

There isn't a single aspect of basketball than Bran is the best ever at. Curry- best shooter ever. Magic- best floor general/ passer ever. Jordan- best scorer ever. Bran is above average at everything but jumpshots but being well rounded doesn't equate to being the best.

lebron is just an athletic ball handler with good passing

[Ca$H]

lebron is just an athletic ball handler with good passing

Basically a rich man's Lamar Odom.

[Mr. Jabbar]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[chazzy]

Unanimous








3rd place

[warriorfan]

Basically a rich man's Lamar Odom.

Pretty much, Odom had better defense though, especially when compared to current Lebron