After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....

[Straight_Ballin]

...I've finally seen him.

Steph Curry, 1/10th the player MJ was but the best offensive player since MJ.

[inclinerator]

steven curry is better than mj on offense, mj wins overral because of the total package

[IGOTGAME]

Steph is a better offensive player than MJ. I'm starting to see it, he is doing this stuff too routinely

[nba_55]

Curry is way better than Jordan offensively

[Bobcats2013]

lets just speak facts okay

Steph is the greatest offensive player of all time.

[Straight_Ballin]

Curry may be 1/10th the player MJ was offensively, but he's the best offensive player I've seen since MJ.

[oh the horror]

Boy some of you need to calm down. Jesus

[nba_55]

Curry may be 1/10th the player MJ was offensively, but he's the best offensive player I've seen since MJ.
Curry is way better than Jordan offensively


1-9

[Bankaii]

Curry makes Ordan look like prime playoffs Demar Derozan.

[Bobcats2013]

Boy some of you need to calm down. Jesus

my nikka, just spread them cheeks and accept this greatness.

[nba_55]

Curry makes Ordan look like prime playoffs Demar Derozan.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Inferno]

steven curry is better than mj on offense, mj wins overral because of the total package

Going with this

[100grandman]

Half of you probably never saw MJ play. That has got to be the reason i'm seeing so many dumb ass posts.

[Straight_Ballin]

Curry is way better than Jordan offensively

Nope, only MJ being the GOAT offensive player did not know how to lose in the finals 6 times for 6 attempts. Curry must show that he can win 6/7 to get his 6 FMVP and then he will be 1/2 the player MJ was due to MJ's superior defense.

[nba_55]

Nope, only MJ being the GOAT offensive player did not know how to lose in the finals 6 times for 6 attempts. Curry must show that he can win 6/7 to get his 6 FMVP and then he will be 1/2 the player MJ was due to MJ's superior defense.

And he also did not know how to win a playoffs series without Pippen as shown with his 1-9 record in the playoffs without Pippen.

Curry is way better than Jordan offensively. Accept it and move on if you want to live your last few days happily.

[jstern]

It's funny, being prisoner of the moment. I mean, Jordan dropped 40 and 50 points on a regular bases. More often than Curry. Right? Yet, if Curry score 40 points, since it just happened, then he's the greatest offensive player of all time. If things were in reverse. If Curry played 25 years ago with the Current rules, and Jordan scored a typical 40 points last night with the old rules, then people would not be saying that about Curry.

[ClipperRevival]

:hammertime:

Jordan family recognizes Curry's greatness. He can sit in the same table as MJ. LeBron is not invited.

[Cali Syndicate]

It's funny, being prisoner of the moment. I mean, Jordan dropped 40 and 50 points on a regular bases. More often than Curry. Right? Yet, if Curry score 40 points, since it just happened, then he's the greatest offensive player of all time. If things were in reverse. If Curry played 25 years ago with the Current rules, and Jordan scored a typical 40 points last night with the old rules, then people would not be saying that about Curry.

And MJ was putting up Godly numbers on bad, good and great teams. Gotta go with MJ. Curry does things so effortlessly though that it just shines harder.

[100grandman]

It's funny, being prisoner of the moment. I mean, Jordan dropped 40 and 50 points on a regular bases. More often than Curry. Right? Yet, if Curry score 40 points, since it just happened, then he's the greatest offensive player of all time. If things were in reverse. If Curry played 25 years ago with the Current rules, and Jordan scored a typical 40 points last night with the old rules, then people would not be saying that about Curry.


Well said.

[Straight_Ballin]

:hammertime:

Jordan family recognizes Curry's greatness. He can sit in the same table as MJ. LeBron is not invited.

Indeed. You need to be at least 1/10th of what MJ was to sit at the table and Curry is allowed to sit at the big boy table, but there is no room at the table for 2/6 losers.

[ClipperRevival]

Indeed. You need to be at least 1/10th of what MJ was to sit at the table and Curry is allowed to sit at the big boy table, but there is no room at the table for 2/6 losers.

Nope. 2/6 losers get no love from the MJ family.

[Cali Syndicate]

:hammertime:

Jordan family recognizes Curry's greatness. He can sit in the same table as MJ. LeBron is not invited.

Curry Lebron and Kobe all sat at MJ's table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gA3h5p08wY

[hateraid]

OP going full meltard. He's now 1/10th the poster 3ball is

[Cold soul]

Wow some of these replies are bad Curry is amazing offensively still take about 10-15 players over him on offense people are jumping gun as usual after brillant 4th quarter and OT by Curry.

[ClipperRevival]

Curry Lebron and Kobe all sat at MJ's table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gA3h5p08wY

And got checked by the GOAT. :roll:

[Straight_Ballin]

Curry Lebron and Kobe all sat at MJ's table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gA3h5p08wY

But they only invited bron just that one time to make fun of his career.....:lol

He hasn't been invited back since!

[konex]

Boy some of you need to calm down. Jesus

It's really crazy. The guy is amazing but is on a stacked team and can't be doubled. Not sure how that makes him a better offensive player than guys that scored just as much with defenses all over them...

[Cold soul]

It's really crazy. The guy is amazing but is on a stacked team and can't be doubled. Not sure how that makes him a better offensive player than guys that scored just as much with defenses all over them...

Yeah and scoring in more ways like driving and finishing at rim dunking over players its impressive for how small Curry is and only being average athlete at best while being this dominate.

[Straight_Ballin]

Yeah and scoring in more ways like driving and finishing at rim dunking over players its impressive for how small Curry is and only being average athlete at best while being this dominate.

It's not hard to be dominant when you can't play defense on the 3 point shooters unlike past eras where you can play defense.

Can we imagine MJ in today's game where no ones allowed to touch him? He'd average 60 points in the playoffs and 70 in the finals! :lol

[Cold soul]

It's not hard to be dominant when you can't play defense on the 3 point shooters unlike past eras where you can play defense.

Can we imagine MJ in today's game where no ones allowed to touch him? He'd average 60 points in the playoffs and 70 in the finals! :lol

Phil Jackson did say Jordan could average 40 points a game in this era I wouldn't doubt it. Jordan 91-93 is best most compete player I have ever seen play. Curry isn't even half the player prime Jordan was.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Wow some of these replies are bad Curry is amazing offensively still take about 10-15 players over him on offense people are jumping gun as usual after brillant 4th quarter and OT by Curry.


10-15 people you would take offensively over Curry??

No way.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Curry makes Ordan look like prime playoffs Demar Derozan.
He makes Lebron _ames look like Porkins.

[ninephive]

You must have missed Duncan. Has 5/6th Jordan's rings and never had a losing record like Jordan did for a third of his career.

[ninephive]

It's funny, being prisoner of the moment. I mean, Jordan dropped 40 and 50 points on a regular bases. More often than Curry. Right? Yet, if Curry score 40 points, since it just happened, then he's the greatest offensive player of all time. If things were in reverse. If Curry played 25 years ago with the Current rules, and Jordan scored a typical 40 points last night with the old rules, then people would not be saying that about Curry.
Perspective is a hard thing to find on this forum.

[riseagainst]

steven curry is better than mj on offense, mj wins overral because of the total package

this.

Curry is the greatest offensive player the game has every seen.

[konex]

Yeah and scoring in more ways like driving and finishing at rim dunking over players its impressive for how small Curry is and only being average athlete at best while being this dominate.

The vast majority of his shots are also wide open due to his teammates. To be fair, a lot are deep 3s but still.

[3ball]

The vast majority of his shots are also wide open due to his teammates. To be fair, a lot are deep 3s but still.


Each stat is linked to NBA.COM:

Over 80% of today's 3-point attempts are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "very open" (6+ feet) - as described by NBA.com:



........................................0-2 ft (very tight).... 2-4 ft (tight)..... 4-6 ft (open).... 6+ ft (very open)

LEAGUE-AVERAGE
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME ............0.4 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=0-2%20Feet%20-%20Very%20Tight).................... 4.1 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=2-4%20Feet%20-%20Tight)..................9.9 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=4-6%20Feet%20-%20Open)..................9.4 (http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sort=FG3A&dir=1&ShotDistRange=&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) <-- nba.com

PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS .................1.7%................17.2%........ .....41.6%.............39.5%




Over 70% of Curry's 3-point attempts are either "open" (4-6 ft) or "very open" (6+ ft).. However, the league average is 80%, as shown above.



........................................0-2 ft (very tight).... 2-4 ft (tight)..... 4-6 ft (open).... 6+ ft (very open)

STEPH CURRY'S.
3-PT ATTEMPTS PER GAME ............0.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season).................... 2.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................5.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..................2.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/tracking/shots/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) <-- nba.com

PERCENTAGE OF
TOTAL 3-PT ATTEMPTS .................0.4%................ 26.1%.............45.9%.............24.3%

[To4]

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/R-p8CjwCu9NLE6Q3DV6JsWJz4ro=/800x0/filters:no_upscale%28%29/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6464289/paul.0.gif

[3ball]

.
NBA.com's stats in the post above shows that most of today's 3-pointers (including Curry's) are wide open, which makes sense - today's drive-and-kick offenses require 3-4 players standing behind the line on every play (spacing), so the defense is stretched out and can't make timely rotations most of the time.

Jordan would benefit immensely from this spacing dynamic.. He has the same goat athleticism as Lebron/Westbrook, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12338297&postcount=47), and Jordan could - he had goat efficiency, better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43), which puts him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gives him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron and Westbrook.

[Da_Realist]

Great performance. I don't see how anyone will beat him. Same feeling as when MJ played. :applause:

[sekachu]

Boy some of you need to calm down. Jesus



it's been 16 years since MJ retired in 1998. Some people might forget how good MJ's offensively since they are watching curry at this moment

[3ball]

it's been 16 years since MJ retired in 1998. Some people might forget how good MJ's offensively since they are watching curry at this moment


Also, unlike today's 3-point-happy league, Jordan didn't have teammates spreading the floor for him - teams only attempted 5 threes per game when Jordan won his first ring in 1991, compared to 25 attempts per game for today's teams.

So today's player benefits from teammates that space the floor and cause defenders to cover more ground - three-point shooters benefit the most from scrambling defenders, which is why 80% of today's 3-pointers (including Curry's) are "open" or "very open", as described on NBA.com's stats page (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12360926&postcount=37).

Otoh, Jordan achieved his stats WITHOUT teammates spreading the floor.. In today's spaced-out game, his stats would explode because he has the same (better) athleticism as Lebron/Westbrook, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12338297&postcount=47), and Jordan could - he had goat midrange efficiency, better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43), which puts him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gives him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron and Westbrook.
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[sportjames23]

You must have missed Duncan. Has 5/6th Jordan's rings and never had a losing record like Jordan did for a third of his career.


MJ never lost a Finals like Duncan did doe. :rockon:

[TommyGriffin]

oh horror is lowkey one of the saltiest on the board about AMC.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Sarcastic]

And he also did not know how to win a playoffs series without Pippen as shown with his 1-9 record in the playoffs without Pippen.

Curry is way better than Jordan offensively. Accept it and move on if you want to live your last few days happily.


Curry didn't even know what the playoffs was for his first 3 years. Isn't it better to make the playoffs and lose, than not make it all?

[Cold soul]

10-15 people you would take offensively over Curry??

No way.

In NBA history yes well maybe 10 not 15.

[Cold soul]

The vast majority of his shots are also wide open due to his teammates. To be fair, a lot are deep 3s but still.

I agree this team is super loaded still what Curry can do is very impressive his handles along with his shooting ability is rare.

[nba_55]

MJ never lost a Finals like Duncan did doe. :rockon:

We can also cherry pick stats. He never won a series without Pippen.

[nba_55]

I agree this team is super loaded still what Curry can do is very impressive his handles along with his shooting ability is rare.

Bulls were even more loaded. They were contenders when they replaced Jordan with a D-League type of talent.

[Sarcastic]

We can also cherry pick stats. He never won a series without Pippen.


And Duncan never repeated. We can go on and on with every player's flaws.

When looking at careers in totality, MJ's career surpasses everyone from both an individual and team perspective.

[Dro]

Half of you probably never saw MJ play. That has got to be the reason i'm seeing so many dumb ass posts.
They're trolling, this is ish...

[nba_55]

And Duncan never repeated. We can go on and on with every player's flaws.

When looking at careers in totality, MJ's career surpasses everyone from both an individual and team perspective.

No he doesn't. Russell surpasses from team perspective. Wilt surpasses him from individual perspective.

[Dro]

it's been 16 years since MJ retired in 1998. Some people might forget how good MJ's offensively since they are watching curry at this moment
Well, lets keep bumping the Legend of the Greatest thread to remind them....

[ClipperRevival]

No he doesn't. Russell surpasses from team perspective. Wilt surpasses him from individual perspective.

How the f*ck does Ilt surpass MJ in the individual department?

[nba_55]

How the f*ck does Ilt surpass MJ in the individual department?

Better stats. Jordan is never touching 50 ppg and 25 rbs.

[Sarcastic]

No he doesn't. Russell surpasses from team perspective. Wilt surpasses him from individual perspective.


Key word: TOTALITY


MJ has the better personal stats than Russell, and better team achievements than Wilt.

[nba_55]

Key word: TOTALITY


MJ has the better personal stats than Russell, and better team achievements than Wilt.

Well, goat list is subjective. Not everyone that has the same criterias as you. Some advantages winning a lot ( in that case Russell would be goat). Others emphasize the individual productions ( in that case it would be wilt).

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

How the f*ck does Ilt surpass MJ in the individual department?

He doesn't.

If games were only played in the regular-season, Wilt would be the unanimous GOAT. Unfortunately for him the NBA has a postseason and finals, where MJ simply played on another level.

[ClipperRevival]

Better stats. Jordan is never touching 50 ppg and 25 rbs.

In terms of sheer peak numbers without considering context, Ilt is probably the GOAT. But peak numbers isn't the be all, end all.

MJ is the all time leader in PPG and PER for both regular season and playoffs.

MJ won 5 regular seasons mvp while Ilt won 4.

MJ has 6 fmvp while Ilt has 1.

MJ's career playoff scoring average is 33.4 while Ilt's is 22.5

MJ's career playoff PER is 28.6 while Ilt's is 22.7.

MJ won 10 scoring titles while Ilt won 7.

I can go on and on.

[ClipperRevival]

The simple fact is that no player was as CONSISTENTLY DOMINANT like MJ. Some might've peaked a tad higher or some had better longevity but no one maintained a level like MJ for as long. The proof is in the numbers.

[nba_55]

In terms of sheer peak numbers without considering context, Ilt is probably the GOAT. But peak numbers isn't the be all, end all.

MJ is the all time leader in PPG and PER for both regular season and playoffs.

MJ won 5 regular seasons mvp while Ilt won 4.

MJ has 6 fmvp while Ilt has 1.

MJ's career playoff scoring average is 33.4 while Ilt's is 22.5

MJ's career playoff PER is 28.6 while Ilt's is 22.7.

MJ won 10 scoring titles while Ilt won 7.

I can go on and on.
I will let Lazeruss respond to this. I don't have time for this shit.

[ClipperRevival]

He doesn't.

If games were only played in the regular-season, Wilt would be the unanimous GOAT. Unfortunately for him the NBA has a postseason and finals, where MJ simply played on another level.

Yeah, that little thing called the playoffs and clutch and showing up when it matters most, etc. Not that important. I'd rather lose and put up empty stats and blame everyone else for coming up short.

[Black Magic]

The simple fact is that no player was as CONSISTENTLY DOMINANT like MJ. Some might've peaked a tad higher or some had better longevity but no one maintained a level like MJ for as long. The proof is in the numbers.

who peaked higher

[ClipperRevival]

who peaked higher

You can argue Wilt if you are looking at the raw numbers without context.

[Sarcastic]

who peaked higher


Ted Williams didn't peak as high as Babe Ruth. That doesn't diminish his greatness in hitting.

[f0und]

curry is th e*uckin man, but this is a bit of an overreaction. from the moment jordan stepped foot on the nba hardwood all the way to his retirement in '98, he was putting up 40 point playoff games on the regular. the league threw everything they could at him. he went through the toughest and roughest defenses. they developed specialized defensive schemes to stop him. he could not be stopped by any of this.

but now we're supposed to think that because curry put up one 40 point game, he's now all of a sudden a better scorer than jordan? when curry goes through as many wars as jordan did while putting up several 40-50 point games, then we can talk.

[Bankaii]

He makes Lebron _ames look like Porkins.
He makes CP3 and KD look like ringless losers.
Oh wait, everyone does that.

[miggyme1]

1/10 of Jordan?

my god Jordan is the greatest to ever do it but geez lets get of his nuts so they can breathe for a day or two.

1/10???? Might as well not even make the comparison if you gonna say someone is 10 percent someone else. Its like a chick telling me I can fucc but I can only use 10 percent of my dick. Whats the point????

[sd3035]

Steph unanimous MVP, better season than any of Ordan's :applause: :applause: :applause:

[RRR3]

Wait so Jordan isn't just the GOAT he's 10x better than the next closest guy?

Are you retarded?


Every player in the NBA is at least 10% as good as Jordan **** outta here. He isn't God.

[bond10]

Steph unanimous MVP, better season than any of Ordan's :applause: :applause: :applause:

This is a stupid argument. It only means this season was weak in terms of MVP caliber players.....and it's further more the case when you only really have like 2-3 teams capable of winning the ring....whereas the 90s had more star players and 4-6 teams that can possibly win in any given year...

[ShawkFactory]

Jordan was 10x the player curry is right now? Wow

[Klayup]

The simple fact is that no player QUIT IN THEIR PRIME like MJ. Some might've peaked a tad higher or some had better longevity but no one maintained a level like MJ for as long. The proof is in the numbers.

Well...most guys would stick around to defend their title rather than quit when they knew it was over.

[inclinerator]

jordan averaged 300 ppg in his prime and shut entire teams down alone

[NBAGOAT]

basically wat op's saying is the difference between Jordan and Kareem is bigger than the difference between Kareem and Dion Waiters :oldlol:

[greymatter]

It's funny seeing these Jordan-stans get all indignant every time another player comes along and does something that the so-called GOAT couldn't ever dream of doing.

They are butthurt that Lebron can guard most 4s in the game while Jordan wouldn't dream of it.

They are butthurt that Lebron made it to a Finals as a 21 y/o with Larry Hughes and Zydrunas Ilgauskas as his 2 best teammates and Mike Brown as his coach.

They're butthurt that Steph Curry not only scores more easily, but also more effortlessly than Jordan could ever dream of. Jordan had to work much harder for his points via hard slashes to the rim and post ups. Curry can juke a man out of his shoes with his handles or just run him off a screen or two before jacking up a 0.3s off-the-dribble shot from 30ft and swish it at a 45% rate.

They are butthurt that Curry draws double teams from 30ft out and that he gets a lot more off-ball attention, creating far better spacing for his teammates than their GOAT's 31% career 3pt shooting percentage was ever able to dictate.

Jordan stans are perpetually butthurt because they go apeshit like that crazy World of Warcraft kid on youtube every time someone comes along and exhibits some skill(s) or ability(ies) which put Jordan's to shame.

[PP34Deuce]

And he also did not know how to win a playoffs series without Pippen as shown with his 1-9 record in the playoffs without Pippen.

Curry is way better than Jordan offensively. Accept it and move on if you want to live your last few days happily.

I'd have to see curry on a team with no klay or draymond. I believe he gets single covered on isolated plays.

[inclinerator]

I'd have to see curry on a team with no klay or draymond. I believe he gets single covered on isolated plays.
we already seen that years ago when he was like 25, didnt turn out too well

[oh the horror]

It's funny seeing these Jordan-stans get all indignant every time another player comes along and does something that the so-called GOAT couldn't ever dream of doing.

They are butthurt that Lebron can guard most 4s in the game while Jordan wouldn't dream of it.

They are butthurt that Lebron made it to a Finals as a 21 y/o with Larry Hughes and Zydrunas Ilgauskas as his 2 best teammates and Mike Brown as his coach.

They're butthurt that Steph Curry not only scores more easily, but also more effortlessly than Jordan could ever dream of. Jordan had to work much harder for his points via hard slashes to the rim and post ups. Curry can juke a man out of his shoes with his handles or just run him off a screen or two before jacking up a 0.3s off-the-dribble shot from 30ft and swish it at a 45% rate.

They are butthurt that Curry draws double teams from 30ft out and that he gets a lot more off-ball attention, creating far better spacing for his teammates than their GOAT's 31% career 3pt shooting percentage was ever able to dictate.

Jordan stans are perpetually butthurt because they go apeshit like that crazy World of Warcraft kid on youtube every time someone comes along and exhibits some skill(s) or ability(ies) which put Jordan's to shame.




You're trying to clown them but you're the dude typing out the essay.


Relax dude.

[Straight_Ballin]

Why hasn't anyone been able to shut down MJ in the finals the way Lebron was shut down by players like Iggy and Kawhi? They played such good defense on him that they won the FMVP. No one could do that to MJ in the finals. I attribute it to MJ going up against Pippen in practice everyday, who was a superior defender to both kawhi and Iggy. Also take into account that despite being able to hand check, they still couldn't stop MJ. Iggy and kawhi weren't even allowed to hand check lebron, and they still stopped him. That's how inferior Lebron's offensive game was in comparison to MJ. We saw a bench player last year in Delly shut down Curry in 2 games. I don't recall MJ ever being shut down 2 games in a finals series, and that's with being able to hand check the shit out of him and be 10x more physical than what is allowed in today's game.

Any superstar of today can watch a guy's moves from 15+ years ago and improve on them. Is that suppose to be an impressive feat? It's to be expected, and yet despite having every advantage that MJ didn't have back then, no one can replicate or outdo what he did in his 6 finals combined. He was that good.

[PP34Deuce]

Why hasn't anyone been able to shut down MJ in the finals the way Lebron was shut down by players like Iggy and Kawhi? They played such good defense on him that they won the FMVP. No one could do that to MJ in the finals. I attribute it to MJ going up against Pippen in practice everyday, who was a superior defender to both kawhi and Iggy. Also take into account that despite being able to hand check, they still couldn't stop MJ. Iggy and kawhi weren't even allowed to hand check lebron, and they still stopped him. That's how inferior Lebron's offensive game was in comparison to MJ. We saw a bench player last year in Delly shut down Curry in 2 games. I don't recall MJ ever being shut down 2 games in a finals series, and that's with being able to hand check the shit out of him and be 10x more physical than what is allowed in today's game.

Michael had the ultimate athletic advantage along with skills. He didn't face kawhi and Iggy defenses one on one. Short stocky guards gave Jordan more issues I believe.

[Straight_Ballin]

Michael had the ultimate athletic advantage along with skills. He didn't face kawhi and Iggy defenses one on one. Short stocky guards gave Jordan more issues I believe.

He faced the ultimate defender in Pippen every day in practice, so came game time it didn't matter who was covering him. He was gonna win if it was a finals series and he proved it by going 6/6 with the 6 FMVP. No one has done it since.

[tmacattack33]

I'd have to see curry on a team with no klay or draymond. I believe he gets single covered on isolated plays.

That's because his isolation plays are 26 feet away from the basket. Nobody is going to double team that, i don't care who his teammates are. That just makes it way too easy for someone in the paint to be open.

[Dragonyeuw]

Well...most guys would stick around to defend their title rather than quit when they knew it was over.

MJ had just come off a finals series averaging 43 a game. 94 Pippen and Grant were the best versions of those players. BJ had become a dependable backcourt mate. Kukoc came on-board. Paxson and Cartwright started to give way to younger versions in Kerr and Longley. And, as the detractors love to point out, a Jordan-less team won 55 games. Now throw a still prime MJ on top of that. That team very easily could have been the best of the Bulls title teams.

What about that says 'over' to you? The Bulls would have been HEAVY favorites for the 94 season.

[Straight_Ballin]

Until someone 3 peats, leaves the game of basketball, comes back, and then 3 peats again......you haven't see shit. Real talk.