Lol at the Kobe and Jordan stans trying to name drop them with Curry

[KingPush]

Stop, it's embarrassing. Those guys are done and retired, also Curry is a better offensive player than both. Deal with it

[34-24 Footwork]

Bran stans melting down EVERYWHERE on this board :lol :lol :lol

[IllegalD]

Stop, it's embarrassing. Those guys are done and retired, also Curry is a better offensive player than both. Deal with it

Thats great.

Too bad the game is played on both sides of the court. Jordan and Kobe are superior all-around players to Curry.

[Inferno]

If I was a real Lakers fan I'd be embarrassed bc of the losers hopping on Curry's dicc :oldlol:

[Straight_Ballin]

Lol why are bran stans trying to deflect the fact that Bron and Curry both play in today's game and Curry is the clear cut best player in the game currently playing, regardless if he's currently 1/10th of what MJ was. Don't worry that he's only 1/10th of MJ, and appreciate what he's doing in this watered down era!!

[Cold soul]

Thats great.

Too bad the game is played on both sides of the court. Jordan and Kobe are superior all-around players to Curry.

Pretty much but don't let this Lebron stan get to you his hero is about lose in Finals yet again.

[Straight_Ballin]

2/7 incoming.

His best is kobe's worst.

[KingPush]

The reason I didnt bring up Lebron is because Im not insecure and already know hes better than all 3 :confusedshrug:

[KingPush]

Lol why are bran stans trying to deflect the fact that Bron and Curry both play in today's game and Curry is the clear cut best player in the game currently playing, regardless if he's currently 1/10th of what MJ was. Don't worry that he's only 1/10th of MJ, and appreciate what he's doing in this watered down era!!
More like Jordan is 1/10th Curry on offense

[sportjames23]

Stop, it's embarrassing. Those guys are done and retired, also Curry is a better offensive player than both. Deal with it


Who is this nigguh again?

[oh the horror]

More like Jordan is 1/10th Curry on offense



Even in your heart you don't buy that shit :oldlol:


These threads are so insecure.

[oh the horror]

Who is this nigguh again?



Some kid that's only seen YouTube videos of Mike.

[bigkingsfan]

Can't blame them trying to stay relevant.

[Straight_Ballin]

Can't blame them trying to stay relevant.

Until I see at least 6/6 with 6 FMVP, it don't get more relevant!

[KingPush]

Until I see at least 6/6 with 6 FMVP, it don't get more relevant!
Curry doesnt have a team as stacked as MJ's bulls

Jordan got nowhere without a top 50 player in Pippen

[Cold soul]

Even in your heart you don't buy that shit :oldlol:


These threads are so insecure.

The dude is clearly trolling not hard to see.

[bigkingsfan]

Until I see at least 6/6 with 6 FMVP, it don't get more relevant!
Bill Russel already surpassed that.

[KingPush]

Even in your heart you don't buy that shit :oldlol:


These threads are so insecure.
So you really think Curry is 1/10th the player Jordan is?

[Straight_Ballin]

Curry doesnt have a team as stacked as MJ's bulls

Jordan got nowhere without a top 50 player in Pippen

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Curry has the most stacked team in the history of the game! Even more so than any Celtic team!

MJ did so much more with LESS!

[ninephive]

Stop, it's embarrassing. Those guys are done and retired, also Curry is a better offensive player than both. Deal with it
Lol, Curry just needs to win 4 more titles and start playing defense to be in that conversation.

[Straight_Ballin]

Bill Russel already surpassed that.

You or I never saw Russell and Russell wasn't the man during all those wins. Check the breakdown of stats of the teams he played on during those wins.

[bigkingsfan]

You or I never saw Russell and Russell wasn't the man during all those wins. Check the breakdown of stats of the teams he played on during those wins.
He won league MVP five times, simple math.

[riseagainst]

melt down

:roll:

[Soundwave]

Another post by a 12 year old I see.

[knicksman]

Well, they have above 50% finals win%.

[iznogood]

Lol why are bran stans trying to deflect the fact that Bron and Curry both play in today's game and Curry is the clear cut best player in the game currently playing, regardless if he's currently 1/10th of what MJ was. Don't worry that he's only 1/10th of MJ, and appreciate what he's doing in this watered down era!!
ordan = 1/9th of curry tho

[3ball]

Curry is a better offensive player than both. Deal with it



Jordan was involved in MORE possessions for his team (usage), while producing more per-possession (ORtg) - he simply DID MORE:



1991 vs. 2016:



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 32.9% Usage.. 125 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 32.6% Usage.. 125 ORtg



Career



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:4 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg

JORDAN PLAYOFFS:. 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 PLAYOFFS:4 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg


Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (per possession efficiency)






And Jordan played more minutes and games too. PER MIN efficiency dun tell the whole thing cuz

Joradn 10, Curry 9.5 at best


Curry is more efficient on a per SHOT basis, but Jordan was more efficient on a per POSSESSION basis (ortg), which is more important.

Jordan's higher per possession efficiency was due primarily to lower turnovers, but also because his superior midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) efficiency partially offset Curry's 3-point efficiency.







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Curry spaces the floor


Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see Isiah Thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.

[3ball]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Curry has the most stacked team in the history of the game! Even more so than any Celtic team!

MJ did so much more with LESS!


Agreed and Jordan didn't have teammates spreading the floor for him either - teams only attempted 5 threes per game when Jordan won his first ring in 1991, compared to 25 attempts per game for today's teams.

So today's player benefits from teammates that space the floor and cause defenders to cover more ground - three-point shooters benefit the most from scrambling defenders, which is why 80% of today's 3-pointers (including Curry's) are "open" or "very open", as described on NBA.com's stats page (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12360926&postcount=37).

Otoh, Jordan achieved his stats WITHOUT teammates spreading the floor.. In today's spaced-out game, his stats would explode because he has the same (better) athleticism as Lebron/Westbrook, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12338297&postcount=47), and Jordan could - he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43), which puts him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gives him a similarly massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron and Westbrook.
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[ImKobe]

Curry has two years of elite play to his name

Kobe and Jordan had better careers, deal with it.

[SpreeS]

Curry spreads the floor for teamates. All defence's atention goes to Curry. He doesnt care about floor spacing and made 16 3pt attempt tonight.

[3ball]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-30-2015/jkrR_v.gif


Curry spreads the floor for teammates


Jordan's spaces the floor MORE - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see Isiah Thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.






All defence's atention goes to Curry.


Are you aware that no all-time great has ever led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers, EXCEPT Jordan, who led his team by at least 10 ppg for every series of his career - let that sink in - no player deserved more attention than MJ.. (edit: there were 2 series where Jordan led by 7 ppg and 5 ppg).

Also, Curry had better efficiency PER SHOT, but Jordan had higher efficiency PER POSSESSION (ORtg), which is more important.. Jordan's higher per possession efficiency was due primarily to lower turnovers, but also because his superior midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713011&postcount=43) efficiency partially offset Curry's 3-point efficiency.

Ultimately, Jordan was involved in more possessions (usage) at higher per-possession efficiency (ORtg), so Jordan simply DID MORE.. He gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (per possession efficiency).

[Spurs m8]

Curry is not even worthy of the same sentence as Jordan tbh

[JebronLames]

The reason I didnt bring up Lebron is because Im not insecure and already know hes better than all 3 :confusedshrug:
:applause: :rockon:

[3ball]

Lebron is better than all 3


Imagine if Lebron averaged 5.5 more ppg in the playoffs on better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg) - that was MJ compared to Lebron.

Jordan's massive scoring and efficiency edge isn't offset by Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds), and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

Think about it this way - Jordan, Bird and Lebron averaged within 1 assist of each other in the playoffs (5.7, 6.4, 6.7, respectively).. But Jordan scored 20% more than Lebron on better efficiency, while also ranking higher at his position defensively - Jordan never let his defensive assignment score 10 ppg above his average and get Finals MVP, which Lebron did twice.





:applause: :rockon:


No all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers, EXCEPT Jordan, who led his team by at least 10 ppg for every series - let that sink in.. (edit: there were 2 series where Jordan led his team by 7 ppg and 5 ppg).

Jordan's massive scoring advantage is far greater than Lebron's tiny assist edge, especially since Jordan led his team in passing just like Lebron did - Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49).

Ultimately, Jordan's goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the goat performance and career.

[Gileraracer]

Jordan GOAT
Kobe Top 10
Curry Top 20 atm (obviously rising)
Lebron Top 50 (not rising cause he gets carried by superstar teams)

[DingDengDong]

Bran stans melting down EVERYWHERE on this board :lol :lol :lol
This :roll:

[Cold soul]

Curry has two years of elite play to his name

Kobe and Jordan had better careers, deal with it.

Yup Curry still has long ways to go still.