Are the Cavs Making them Look Like Nobodies????

[MMM]

They got the nerve to say the Cavs didn't beat anybody not realising that the Cavs are solely responsible for making them look like nobodies' i.e. because the Cavs would also sweep OKC/Mem and Por/Hou. Keep in mind Det/Atl are better defensive teams than anything GSW/SAS has gone up against and the Cavs shredded them pretty easily. So, If you believe like I believe, then you can see why the Cavs should be favourites right here and now.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Everyone and their dog was on this board talking about how Detroit would take at least two from Cleveland. It didn't happen. Same with Atlanta. Everyone said they would make it a series. IF Miami wins the Raptor series we are going to hear the same thing. These teams only get bad when Cleveland wins :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

The Cavs would've swept every team the Warriors/Spurs would've played except for OKC.
And with Lebron's history with them the series would be over in 5, 6 tops.

[Young X]

No, it's the teams themselves.

None of them are bad, but they're complete non-threats and have been all season.

The Cavs now can possibly face 3 teams with 48 wins or less before the finals. That's a JOKE.

[MMM]

No, it's the teams themselves.

None of them are bad, but they're complete non-threats and have been all season.

The Cavs now can possibly face 3 teams with 48 wins or less before the finals. That's a JOKE.

Portland, Memphis and Houston have all been non-threats as well. Atl/Det are better teams than the 3 (okay Por is on Atl/Det tier) but the Cavs dispatched Atl/Det quickly and keep in mind that Bron own OKC. So, I don't think it's a stretch to say Cleveland sweeps what GSW/SAS had to face, and why irrespective of competition that the Cavs have been the most dominant team right here and right now.

[MMM]

No, it's the teams themselves.

None of them are bad, but they're complete non-threats and have been all season.

The Cavs now can possibly face 3 teams with 48 wins or less before the finals. That's a JOKE.

So why's isn't it mentioned that the W's haven't played a team with 45 wins yet. Every series in the east so far but one has had 45 win teams or more. For example, Portland doesn't even make the playoffs or is an 8th seed in the East. The Cavs would sweep the competition that the GSW/SAS has faced so far and thus the argument about weak competition is probably fleeting after the finals.

[moongaze]

The cavs are making them look like nobodies. The only team I think the cavs wouldn't sweep is golden state.

[SexSymbol]

They got the nerve to say the Cavs didn't beat anybody not realising that the Cavs are solely responsible for making them look like nobodies' i.e. because the Cavs would also sweep OKC/Mem and Por/Hou. Keep in mind Det/Atl are better defensive teams than anything GSW/SAS has gone up against and the Cavs shredded them pretty easily. So, If you believe like I believe, then you can see why the Cavs should be favourites right here and now.
nope on those two. Especially OKC.


The Cavs have played nobodies, and will continue to do so until the finals.
You got Detroit, and incredibly inexperienced team without good perimeter threats, yet they fought quite well against these Cavs.
You have joke of a team in Hawks, who have NO ONE who can isolate at an above average level and are horrible in rebounding and defense.
Now you get to Raptors, who have two fakest back court stars in the league in lowry and derozan, and the best player of Toronto is now injured and will be questionable for ecf if they make it there.
Then there's Miami, who's on paper the biggest threat, yet still playing without their all-star PF and they really only have one guy who can create his own shot, one who's like 34 years old.

Eastern conference playoffs are the biggest joke you could find. That's very good for the cavs, as they have many rest days, but they're not tested at all, so don't expect them to win game 1 in the finals against anyone that they face, because they'll be way too relaxed, regardless of what outcome you think the rest of the series will see.

[SexSymbol]

So why's isn't it mentioned that the W's haven't played a team with 45 wins yet. Every series in the east so far but one has had 45 win teams or more. For example, Portland doesn't even make the playoffs or is an 8th seed in the East. The Cavs would sweep the competition that the GSW/SAS has faced so far and thus the argument about weak competition is probably fleeting after the finals.
GSW and SAS are likely facing each other in the wcf
CLE will face TOR or MIA in the ecf.
So yeah, you see the difference in competition.

[sd3035]

most casual fans can't name a single player on either team

[Real14]

They are nobodies. Even the heat.

[tpols]

Portland would take a game or 2 from the Cavs .. in an early matchup, OKC would take them to 7.


The biggest difference between the east and west teams is that the west stars show up. Lilliard and McCollum play their hearts out and fight.

Lowry, Derozan, Millsack, Teague, horford etc are all fake all stars. Theyre total bums come playoff time.


You guys really think Atlanta, or Toronto would ever be able to hang around w/ the warriors the way portland has thus far lol.. not a chance in hell. The Heat would lose to them to the way theyre playing in 5 or less.

[moongaze]

Portland would take a game or 2 from the Cavs .. in an early matchup, OKC would take them to 7.


The biggest difference between the east and west teams is that the west stars show up. Lilliard and McCollum play their hearts out and fight.

Lowry, Derozan, Millsack, Teague, horford etc are all fake all stars. Theyre total bums come playoff time.


You guys really think Atlanta, or Toronto would ever be able to hang around w/ the warriors the way portland has thus far lol.. not a chance in hell. The Heat would lose to them to the way theyre playing in 5 or less.

How does okc take games from Cleveland? Lebron has owned Durant for years and Cleveland is much deeper and shoots better. Portland is 44 win team with an inconsistent star. One star only. Lillard alone isn't winning a single game against Cleveland. You're only propping those teams up cause the cavs can't play them. Gusrantee if you switched conference teams you'd be talking about how teams like Detroit, Toronto, Atlanta would take games from the cavs

[NBAGOAT]

Portland would take a game or 2 from the Cavs .. in an early matchup, OKC would take them to 7.


The biggest difference between the east and west teams is that the west stars show up. Lilliard and McCollum play their hearts out and fight.

Lowry, Derozan, Millsack, Teague, horford etc are all fake all stars. Theyre total bums come playoff time.


You guys really think Atlanta, or Toronto would ever be able to hang around w/ the warriors the way portland has thus far lol.. not a chance in hell. The Heat would lose to them to the way theyre playing in 5 or less.

okc sure. The Portland stuff is exaggerated. The Detroit guys showed heart and got swept. It's also a little easier to be confident when the other team is missing superstars.

[MMM]

nope on those two. Especially OKC.


The Cavs have played nobodies, and will continue to do so until the finals.
You got Detroit, and incredibly inexperienced team without good perimeter threats, yet they fought quite well against these Cavs.
You have joke of a team in Hawks, who have NO ONE who can isolate at an above average level and are horrible in rebounding and defense.
Now you get to Raptors, who have two fakest back court stars in the league in lowry and derozan, and the best player of Toronto is now injured and will be questionable for ecf if they make it there.
Then there's Miami, who's on paper the biggest threat, yet still playing without their all-star PF and they really only have one guy who can create his own shot, one who's like 34 years old.

Eastern conference playoffs are the biggest joke you could find. That's very good for the cavs, as they have many rest days, but they're not tested at all, so don't expect them to win game 1 in the finals against anyone that they face, because they'll be way too relaxed, regardless of what outcome you think the rest of the series will see.

There is a lot that is wrong with this post and i hope you realise that the same things you said about OKC/Por were said about Det/Atl before they got swept. Also hope you understand that the Hawks are not only a good defensive team but were the 2nd best defensive team in the league. If the Cavs were able to shred them like that I can only imagine what they'd do to inferior defensive teams like OKC, Por, Mem, and Det.

Didn't really want to make this about conferences because the larger point is the level of dominance that the Cavs are showing right here and right now and unfortunately it is going unnoticed.

[MMM]

Portland would take a game or 2 from the Cavs .. in an early matchup, OKC would take them to 7.


The biggest difference between the east and west teams is that the west stars show up. Lilliard and McCollum play their hearts out and fight.

Lowry, Derozan, Millsack, Teague, horford etc are all fake all stars. Theyre total bums come playoff time.


You guys really think Atlanta, or Toronto would ever be able to hang around w/ the warriors the way portland has thus far lol.. not a chance in hell. The Heat would lose to them to the way theyre playing in 5 or less.

Portland is probably a non playoff team in the east or at least i don't think they are suited to playing in the East regular season where there are more teams on their level compared to the West. The point though is the way the Cavs are playing the Blazers probably get swept too, and as for OKC the matchups lead me to believe that would not be a very competitive series as well. So, it not really about bashing the west as conference, but putting focus on the Cavs play right here and right now.

[tpols]

How does okc take games from Cleveland? Lebron has owned Durant for years and Cleveland is much deeper and shoots better. Portland is 44 win team with an inconsistent star. One star only. Lillard alone isn't winning a single game against Cleveland. You're only propping those teams up cause the cavs can't play them. Gusrantee if you switched conference teams you'd be talking about how teams like Detroit, Toronto, Atlanta would take games from the cavs

CJ has been better than lowry, teague, and derozan by a good amount.. so I dont care what you label it as.. Dame and CJ would be the two best players if you took the best 20 guys from Atlanta, Toronto, and Portland (especially w/ valuncunias out).


And Im not just saying it because Cleveland isnt playing them.. have you watched the playoffs this year? The lack of physical and mental toughness being shown from the Raptors and Hawks is embarrassing.. the raptors are a complete implosion, and the hawks could barely beat a Boston team minus their second best player.


the trailblazers play inspired ball and have looked much better than those teams.. and w/ Miami stumbling to the finish line its likely theyd be the best team out East right now besides the Cavs.


thats not even the big deal though.. what makes the conferences lopsided is the fact that OKC SAS and GS have to battle it out amongst one another while the Cavs get a free ride with not even a hint of competition on their way to the Finals.

[moongaze]

CJ has been better than lowry, teague, and derozan by a good amount.. so I dont care what you label it as.. Dame and CJ would be the two best players if you took the best 20 guys from Atlanta, Toronto, and Portland (especially w/ valuncunias out).


And Im not just saying it because Cleveland isnt playing them.. have you watched the playoffs this year? The lack of physical and mental toughness being shown from the Raptors and Hawks is embarrassing.. the raptors are a complete implosion, and the hawks could barely beat a Boston team minus their second best player.


the trailblazers play inspired ball and have looked much better than those teams.. and w/ Miami stumbling to the finish line its likely theyd be the best team out East right now besides the Cavs.


thats not even the big deal though.. what makes the conferences lopsided is the fact that OKC SAS and GS have to battle it out amongst one another while the Cavs get a free ride with not even a hint of competition on their way to the Finals.

Cj being better points to flaws in Golden States game. Teague, milsap and others not looking good is a tribute to the cavs. So, Atlanta is bad because they won in six against a Celtic team without Bradley, yet golden state, who struggled more against s cavs team minus love and Irving is the best thing since sliced bread?

[Blue&Orange]

So, If you believe like I believe, then you can see why the Cavs should be favourites right here and now.
Cavs have a $175 million roster, off course they are favourites.

[tpols]

Cj being better points to flaws in Golden States game. Teague, milsap and others not looking good is a tribute to the cavs. So, Atlanta is bad because they won in six against a Celtic team without Bradley, yet golden state, who struggled more against s cavs team minus love and Irving is the best thing since sliced bread?

yea, CJ is just taking advantage of flaws in Golden State's game lmao.. do you understand how ridiculous you sound right now?


Portland has two gamers on their squad and bunch of tough defensive minded role players that are buying in and playing fantastic.. the hawks are one of the least inspiring teams in basketball.

[moongaze]

yea, CJ is just taking advantage of flaws in Golden State's game lmao.. do you understand how ridiculous you sound right now?


Portland has two gamers on their squad and bunch of tough defensive minded role players that are buying in and playing fantastic.. the hawks are one of the least inspiring teams in basketball.

Do you even see what you're saying. So the Hawks playing bad is a sign that they're bad and not that Cleveland vdid good yet cj and Dame having good games is because they're good and not because golden state didn't do a good enough job on them. I guess the cavs should have let more atl players go off so you can talk about how good the players they faced were

[HurricaneKid]

Portland would take a game or 2 from the Cavs .. in an early matchup, OKC would take them to 7.


The biggest difference between the east and west teams is that the west stars show up. Lilliard and McCollum play their hearts out and fight.

Lowry, Derozan, Millsack, Teague, horford etc are all fake all stars. Theyre total bums come playoff time.


You guys really think Atlanta, or Toronto would ever be able to hang around w/ the warriors the way portland has thus far lol.. not a chance in hell. The Heat would lose to them to the way theyre playing in 5 or less.

Atl and Toronto would PILLAGE Portland. Women would be running from the city screaming as the city was engulfed in flames behind them.

Portland winning a single game in a series against a team without the unanimous MVP is NOT an achievement. Nor would any team in the Eastern Playoffs not been able to match their level of competition.

And the East DEFENDS. Portland and Houston were the worst defensive, and second worst defensive team in the league to make the playoffs. I'm FLOORED that anyone could think that either of these teams were worthy of the playoffs, much less the second round. When Golden State beats the Thunder/Spurs we can talk.

[MMM]

Do you even see what you're saying. So the Hawks playing bad is a sign that they're bad and not that Cleveland vdid good yet cj and Dame having good games is because they're good and not because golden state didn't do a good enough job on them. I guess the cavs should have let more atl players go off so you can talk about how good the players they faced were

Exactly, with the way the Cavs are playing I don't see Portland being able to do much but what is being ignored is GSW/SAS aren't playing at an equal level. There is nothing that suggest GSW/SAs would sweep ATL/Det

[ImKobe]

Exactly, with the way the Cavs are playing I don't see Portland being able to do much but what is being ignored is GSW/SAS aren't playing at an equal level. There is nothing that suggest GSW/SAs would sweep ATL/Det

:oldlol:

Hawks: ranked 22nd ORTG
DET: ranked 13th in ORTG, 19th in PPG

neither team had a 20+ ppg scorer that would take games over

Detroit averaged 95 ppg against Cleveland, ATL 99.5

You think their offenses would be better against Warriors/Spurs defense? :roll:

Cavs were able to play Love at Center and Frye at PF and they have one of the worst defensive PGs in Irving

[Inferno]

Everyone and their dog was on this board talking about how Detroit would take at least two from Cleveland. It didn't happen. Same with Atlanta. Everyone said they would make it a series. IF Miami wins the Raptor series we are going to hear the same thing. These teams only get bad when Cleveland wins :oldlol:

Actually have to agree with Silkk on this one. Every year Kobe stans claim that a certain team will knock Bron out the playoffs, only for him to sweep. Then it goes back to the weak conference argument :oldlol:

[tpols]

Atl and Toronto would PILLAGE Portland. Women would be running from the city screaming as the city was engulfed in flames behind them.


with the way lowry and derozan been playing, Portland would beat Toronto in 5 or less games .. you just make bullshit up. Everyone can see how awful Toronto has been in the playoffs, theyre a team of fake all stars whose best player is out.

to moongaze, it isnt just how atlanta played against the cavs.. theyve been underwhelming in the playoffs the past two years, against all opponents.. Teague has been garbage, Millsap shoots in the low 40%s as a big man and gets abused by bigger forwards, horfords game has fallen off a cliff.



the thought of either of those two teams "pillaging" this portland team is hilarious.. :lol

I think you were being sarcastic though.

[Spurs m8]

Cavs have played no one and will still play no one next round.

East is so embarrassingly bad

[ImKobe]

with the way lowry and derozan been playing, Portland would beat Toronto in 5 or less games .. you just make bullshit up. Everyone can see how awful Toronto has been in the playoffs, theyre a team of fake all stars whose best player is out.

to moongaze, it isnt just how atlanta played against the cavs.. theyve been underwhelming in the playoffs the past two years, against all opponents.. Teague has been garbage, Millsap shoots in the low 40%s as a big man and gets abused by bigger forwards, horfords game has fallen off a cliff.



the thought of either of those two teams "pillaging" this portland team is hilarious.. :lol

I think you were being sarcastic though.

Pistons/Hawks can play D but you can run your worst defensive line-ups and outscore them from 3, which is what the Cavs basically did.

[NBAGOAT]

Pistons/Hawks can play D but you can run your worst defensive line-ups and outscore them from 3, which is what the Cavs basically did.

not really the Hawks actually did well on offense vs the Cavs even with Cavs playing some better defensive lineups. Cavs were just ridiculous shooting the ball, something unfortunately for Bron stans is unlikely to repeat itself.

Edit: Pistons did pretty well too.

[ImKobe]

not really the Hawks actually did well on offense vs the Cavs even with Cavs playing some better defensive lineups. Cavs were just ridiculous shooting the ball, something unfortunately for Bron stans is unlikely to repeat itself.

Edit: Pistons did pretty well too.

They obviously averaged less against Cleveland than they did in the regular season and Cleveland blew them out/outscored them in close games...

They struggled scoring with Kevin Love being the rim protector for half the game :oldlol:, it's gotten to a point where Frye gets more minutes than Mozgov, who anchored their defense for the bigger part of the Playoffs last season, TT played 36 mpg

this year TT gets 29 minutes Mozgov gets 7 minutes a game

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Lol. Obvious troll thread, but I'll play.

Cav's would NOT sweep ANYONE in the western conference playoffs this year outside of Memphis.

Can't believe this is even a discussion.

[NBAGOAT]

They obviously averaged less against Cleveland than they did in the regular season and Cleveland blew them out/outscored them in close games...

They struggled scoring with Kevin Love being the rim protector for half the game :oldlol:, it's gotten to a point where Frye gets more minutes than Mozgov, who anchored their defense for the bigger part of the Playoffs last season, TT played 36 mpg

this year TT gets 29 minutes Mozgov gets 7 minutes a game

they had cold streaks ofc and at bad times but so have most other teams in the playoffs. No one said the Blazers struggled to score after game 2 for example. Overall both teams had like a 110RTG which is pretty good on offense, the Cavs were just ridiculous on offense vs both.


Lol. Obvious troll thread, but I'll play.

Cav's would NOT sweep ANYONE in the western conference playoffs this year outside of Memphis.

Can't believe this is even a discussion.

And now you're countertrolling. You can't possibly think the Mavs or the Rockets with the way the team gave up in the playoffs would take a game off the Cavs or are better than the Pistons. People have been overcomplaining about lack of heart these playoffs, that really only applies to the Rockets however.

[34-24 Footwork]

they had cold streaks ofc and at bad times but so have most other teams in the playoffs. No one said the Blazers struggled to score after game 2 for example. Overall both teams had like a 110RTG which is pretty good on offense, the Cavs were just ridiculous on offense vs both.



And now you're countertrolling. You can't possibly think the Mavs or the Rockets with the way the team gave up in the playoffs would take a game off the Cavs or are better than the Pistons. People have been overcomplaining about lack of heart these playoffs, that really only applies to the Rockets however.

The way the Cavs are playin against Eastern Conference teams is truly hurting your objectivity in this matter.

Rational people = "Cavs are playing great in the eastern conference"

Irrational people = "Cavs could sweep OKC/Portland/Rockets"

The Cavs are gonna lose by 40-50 To the Warriors at least once and you'll be here making excuses.

Rinse repeat....

[NBAGOAT]

The way the Cavs are playin against Eastern Conference teams is truly hurting your objectivity in this matter.

Rational people = "Cavs are playing great in the eastern conference"

Irrational people = "Cavs could sweep OKC/Portland/Rockets"

The Cavs are gonna lose by 40-50 To the Warriors at least once and you'll be here making excuses.

Rinse repeat....

not exactly. I think most people without agendas would agree the Rockets were one of the worst teams in the playoffs this year outside of Memphis. They're worse than the Eastern conference teams as bad as they are. I highly doubt Cavs lose by 40-50 but they could get blown out, it's pretty unlikely they stay this hot shooting wise. That's not an excuse, that's just a fact. I never said they would sweep OKC, they could sweep Portland however.

[MMM]

The way the Cavs are playin against Eastern Conference teams is truly hurting your objectivity in this matter.

Rational people = "Cavs are playing great in the eastern conference"

Irrational people = "Cavs could sweep OKC/Portland/Rockets"

The Cavs are gonna lose by 40-50 To the Warriors at least once and you'll be here making excuses.

Rinse repeat....

Cavs are playing great simple as that while other contenders are still finding their stride. Not saying that things aren't able to change but SAS/GSw are still a notch or two below of where they can be

[stephanieg]

I'm just amused people still hype up the Hawks and act surprised when they get shown the door in the playoffs. This has been going on for years and years. I thought they didn't have a lot of fans.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Poster that said Portland would take Cleveland to 6 games might actually be mentally r.etarded

[PP34Deuce]

What I see is lack of parity. People talk about Cleveland but SAS and GSW are stacked by definition. OKC has 2 guys that equal the impact of 2 additional Allstars.

The west is not super strong beyond 3rd seed.

[El Gato Negro]

Lots of kobetatds going full retard in this thread, never go full retard. :roll:

[oh the horror]

Poster that said Portland would take Cleveland to 6 games might actually be mentally r.etarded




You're the same dude that literally runs away whenever he team gets bounced out. You don't get to talk shit to anyone on this board with your soft ass.

[oh the horror]

Lots of kobetatds going full retard in this thread, never go full retard. :roll:



Melt






Down.

[MMM]

Lol. Obvious troll thread, but I'll play.

Cav's would NOT sweep ANYONE in the western conference playoffs this year outside of Memphis.

Can't believe this is even a discussion.

Never really been a troll my time here so won't start now, but yes the Cavs would sweep Hou, Dal and Mem. OKC was a reach but the Cavs would still handle them easier compared to the Spurs struggling with them. As for Portland, they probably don't fare much better than Detroit in that the games could be close but ultimately the Cavs most likely sweep. Finally, this is more about the Cavs current level of play and not necessarily about competition. The Cavs have been dominant while circumstances have lead to anybody else matching their form.

[Dresta]

CJ has been better than lowry, teague, and derozan by a good amount.. so I dont care what you label it as.. Dame and CJ would be the two best players if you took the best 20 guys from Atlanta, Toronto, and Portland (especially w/ valuncunias out).


And Im not just saying it because Cleveland isnt playing them.. have you watched the playoffs this year? The lack of physical and mental toughness being shown from the Raptors and Hawks is embarrassing.. the raptors are a complete implosion, and the hawks could barely beat a Boston team minus their second best player.


the trailblazers play inspired ball and have looked much better than those teams.. and w/ Miami stumbling to the finish line its likely theyd be the best team out East right now besides the Cavs.


thats not even the big deal though.. what makes the conferences lopsided is the fact that OKC SAS and GS have to battle it out amongst one another while the Cavs get a free ride with not even a hint of competition on their way to the Finals.
:roll:

Tha Blazers are f*cking trash dude. Your bias is really showing with this bullshit.

[MMM]

:roll:

Tha Blazers are f*cking trash dude. Your bias is really showing with this bullshit.

The Blazers probably don't make the 2nd round in the east but it depends on who they would match up against. Could Portland beat Toronto???? Sure, but Indiana/Detroit could just as likely beat Portland.

[Real14]

You're the same dude that literally runs away whenever he team gets bounced out. You don't get to talk shit to anyone on this board with your soft ass.
OH shit:roll:

[tpols]

:roll:

Tha Blazers are f*cking trash dude. Your bias is really showing with this bullshit.


you guys can barely beat the trash bros w/ valuncunias out lmao.. sit down please.


I will be watching tonight's game for comedic value.