View Full Version : This postseason is exposing the nba's joke of a regular season
tmacattack33
05-10-2016, 10:50 PM
The Cavs were struggling all year and just turned their intensity up like a light switch. It's obvious Kyrie and JR Smith were probably partying hard during the reg season...they look like completely different players in the playoffs.
And now we have an all time great regular season team (67-15 Spurs) about to go down in the second round. So
Baseball and hockey are two highly volatile (high variance) sports, where two bounces of the puck or baseball will decide 40% of their games. Thus, in these sports, it is necessary to play a lot of games (82 in NHL, 162 in MLB) so that the truly good teams have enough time to separate from the bad teams.
In basketball, however, all we need is around 45 games to weed out the bad teams. 82 is ridiculously unnecessary. An elite team can party and mess around all regular season long in the NBA and still be guaranteed a playoff spot. And they do. This is why the nba reg season product is so weak.
Ben Simmons
05-10-2016, 10:52 PM
The regular season has become pointless. It's too long.
imdaman99
05-10-2016, 10:53 PM
I agree 82 games is too long but 45 is way too short. You're just trying to extend Lebron's career now OP so relax with that :oldlol:
I think 65-70 games might be good. But obviously it won't happen, money talks.
DonDadda59
05-10-2016, 10:55 PM
The Cavs were struggling all year and just turned their intensity up like a light switch. It's obvious Kyrie and JR Smith were probably partying hard during the reg season...they look like completely different players in the playoffs.
And now we have an all time great regular season team (67-15 Spurs) about to go down in the second round.
Baseball and hockey are two highly volatile (high variance) sports, where two bounces of the puck or baseball will decide 40% of their games. Thus, in these sports, it is necessary to play a lot of games (82 in NHL, 162 in MLB) so that the truly good teams have enough time to separate from the bad teams.
In basketball, however, all we need is around 45 games to weed out the bad teams. 82 is ridiculously unnecessary. An elite team can party all regular season long in the NBA and still be guaranteed a playoff spot. This is why the nba reg season product is so weak.
Proof that this was a down year league wide. Just from the eye test, I thought the '14 Spurs were easily the better squad.
With the exception of Kawhi, everyone is just an older, slower, less effective version of their '14 selves and LaMarcus is wildly inconsistent. Duncan was still a 15/10 player but now he goes half the series without scoring a bucket.
moongaze
05-10-2016, 10:55 PM
Yea but as a basketball fan would you rather have less games to watch? I like the long season
Proof that this was a down year league wide. Just from the eye test, I thought the '14 Spurs were easily the better squad.
With the exception of Kawhi, everyone is just an older, slower, less effective version of their '14 selves and LaMarcus is wildly inconsistent. Duncan was still a 15/10 player but now he goes half the series without scoring a bucket.
Asterisk season IMO. Everything's been meaningless since the great Chalmers went down with a season ending injury. We all know he would have led Memphis to the chip if he had stayed healthy.
LilEddyCurry
05-10-2016, 10:57 PM
Proof that this was a down year league wide. Just from the eye test, I thought the '14 Spurs were easily the better squad.
With the exception of Kawhi, everyone is just an older, slower, less effective version of their '14 selves and LaMarcus is wildly inconsistent. Duncan was still a 15/10 player but now he goes half the series without scoring a bucket.
2014 was perfect team-ball team. There was no clear star on the team but everyone was solid and had mastered playing in the Pop system.
tmacattack33
05-10-2016, 10:58 PM
I agree 82 games is too long but 45 is way too short. You're just trying to extend Lebron's career now OP so relax with that :oldlol:
I think 65-70 games might be good. But obviously it won't happen, money talks.
I chose 45 because that is the time of the all-star break. And I can't remember any year in which a team that wasn't top 8 at the all-star break ended up making the Finals or even the Conference Finals.
So it seems that by the all-star break, we have already separated out the good teams from the bad teams.
DonDadda59
05-10-2016, 10:59 PM
I agree 82 games is too long but 45 is way too short. You're just trying to extend Lebron's career now OP so relax with that :oldlol:
I think 65-70 games might be good. But obviously it won't happen, money talks.
Bingo. That's why the league added more games in the first round. If it were up to the League brass and team owners, the NBA would be a 24/7, 365 day a year (366 on leap years) league.
No way anyone outside of the players union pushes for less games.
2014 was perfect team-ball team. There was no clear star on the team but everyone was solid and had mastered playing in the Pop system.
Yeah, the way they played ball that season, especially in the playoffs was magical. This year's team is hit or miss. Some games they're on, others they are a disjointed mess.
Im Still Ballin
05-10-2016, 11:00 PM
It's because the Spurs are REALLY good at beating up on shit teams and beating who they should
But they were never on Golden state's level
Because GS are on their own level for one reason
Curry
fsvr54
05-10-2016, 11:00 PM
Yea but as a basketball fan would you rather have less games to watch? I like the long season
This.
As a fan I want games.
bigkingsfan
05-10-2016, 11:00 PM
You can just not watch the entire reg season.
NBAGOAT
05-10-2016, 11:03 PM
Proof that this was a down year league wide. Just from the eye test, I thought the '14 Spurs were easily the better squad.
With the exception of Kawhi, everyone is just an older, slower, less effective version of their '14 selves and LaMarcus is wildly inconsistent. Duncan was still a 15/10 player but now he goes half the series without scoring a bucket.
this team was the best defensive team they've had in awhile however. Agree however especially based on playoff play that 14 was still better. It's been a 2 man show on offense and OKC has done pretty well on offense vs them.
TheMarkMadsen
05-10-2016, 11:04 PM
That's what happens when you play in the west. Win 67 games and still face a team just as good in the second round.
Not everybody can play the Hawks
tmacattack33
05-10-2016, 11:05 PM
You can just not watch the entire reg season.
Basketball is my favorite sport though
Good job markmadsen, you likely made this thread another LBJ vs Kobe shitposting extravaganza.
Straight_Ballin
05-10-2016, 11:08 PM
I agree 82 games is too long but 45 is way too short. You're just trying to extend Lebron's career now OP so relax with that :
I think 65-70 games might be good. But obviously it won't happen, money talks.
Agenda exposed. :roll:
62 games sounds about right.
tmacattack33
05-10-2016, 11:12 PM
That's what happens when you play in the west. Win 67 games and still face a team just as good in the second round.]
Not everybody can play the Hawks
This post is probably about Lebron, but anyway...
...If OKC is better than San Antonio, which it seems they are, then they should have won more than 55 games in the regular season.
But they didn't, because the OKC players were probably coasting at 75% effort, because they knew that they were guaranteed to make the playoffs ever since January.
tmacattack33
05-10-2016, 11:13 PM
Oops, double post
Im Still Ballin
05-10-2016, 11:18 PM
Oops, double post
Enjoy the ban
Criminal
TheMarkMadsen
05-10-2016, 11:21 PM
This post is probably about Lebron, but anyway...
...If OKC is better than San Antonio, which it seems they are, then they should have won more than 55 games in the regular season.
But they didn't, because the OKC players were probably coasting at 75% effort, because they knew that they were guaranteed to make the playoffs ever since January.
Well in case you didn't know, OKC was adjusting to a new coach while their former MVP was returning from a season ending injury from the year before.
Superstars win games in the playoffs and OKC has two of those, if they stay together next year they'll easily win 60+ games with a full year under Donavan and KD with his confidence back/ not thinking about being reinjured.
TheMarkMadsen
05-10-2016, 11:25 PM
Good job markmadsen, you likely made this thread another LBJ vs Kobe shitposting extravaganza.
What the hell are you taking about? The first paragraph is about how the cavs look so much better compared to the regular season and how a regular season juggernaut is about to lose to a team with less regular season wins.
The reason the cavs look so good is because they are playing who they are playing and the reason the Spurs might lose in the second round is because out west you have to face 4 of the top 5 MVP candidates in the second round.
Kyrie looks different in the playoffs because he's finally healthy, he spent half the season on the IR and it took him some time to get his legs under him.
Spurs losing in the second round says more about the strength out west than it does about the regular season.
:rolleyes: :facepalm
tmacattack33
05-10-2016, 11:32 PM
Well in case you didn't know, OKC was adjusting to a new coach while their former MVP was returning from a season ending injury from the year before.
Superstars win games in the playoffs and OKC has two of those, if they stay together next year they'll easily win 60+ games with a full year under Donavan and KD with his confidence back/ not thinking about being reinjured.
Good post. No mention of Lebron. You should do this more often.
What the hell are you taking about? The first paragraph is about how the cavs look so much better compared to the regular season and how a regular season juggernaut is about to lose to a team with less regular season wins.
The reason the cavs look so good is because they are playing who they are playing and the reason the Spurs might lose in the second round is because out west you have to face 4 of the top 5 MVP candidates in the second round.
Kyrie looks different in the playoffs because he's finally healthy, he spent half the season on the IR and it took him some time to get his legs under him.
Spurs losing in the second round says more about the strength out west than it does about the regular season.
:rolleyes: :facepalm
Looks like I was wrong, dubeta and the gang didn't show up. Welp. You can understand why I'm paranoid I hope. This site is horrendous.
oarabbus
05-10-2016, 11:44 PM
Basketball is my favorite sport though
:cheers:
OK I can tell you're a true bball fan. The NBA season is way too long, at least by 15-20 games. I think the ideal number could be around 50 games in terms of excitement. 30 games, allstar break, 20 games.
SouBeachTalents
05-10-2016, 11:45 PM
:cheers:
OK I can tell you're a true bball fan. The NBA season is way too long, at least by 15-20 games. I think the ideal number could be around 50 games in terms of excitement. 30 games, allstar break, 20 games.
I'd make the season 58 games, have teams play every team twice. Would make scheduling fair too
bluechox2
05-10-2016, 11:49 PM
lets make it 2 seasons in one calender year, 45 game per season, playoffs follow best of 5 format, finals best of 7
oarabbus
05-10-2016, 11:52 PM
I'd make the season 58 games, have teams play every team twice. Would make scheduling fair too
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coin24
05-11-2016, 12:12 AM
Looks like I was wrong, dubeta and the gang didn't show up. Welp. You can understand why I'm paranoid I hope. This site is horrendous.
They've banned half the losers alts finally
coin24
05-11-2016, 12:12 AM
I'd make the season 58 games, have teams play every team twice. Would make scheduling fair too
This would be perfect:applause: :applause:
FKAri
05-11-2016, 12:17 AM
I'd make the season 58 games, have teams play every team twice. Would make scheduling fair too
Hell even playing just once is fine by me.
People would complain either way cuz
b-b-but conferences and divisionzz!!!!
comerb
05-11-2016, 12:27 AM
The Cavs were struggling all year and just turned their intensity up like a light switch. It's obvious Kyrie and JR Smith were probably partying hard during the reg season...they look like completely different players in the playoffs.
And now we have an all time great regular season team (67-15 Spurs) about to go down in the second round. So
Cavs are playing in the cupcake league and Toronto always falls apart in the playoffs. Thunder are probably one of the most talented 3 seeds the league has ever seen.
34-24 Footwork
05-11-2016, 12:33 AM
Fans of Eastern Conference teams shouldn't have an opinion on this matter, tbh.
Piccolo
05-11-2016, 04:03 AM
Proof that this was a down year league wide. Just from the eye test, I thought the '14 Spurs were easily the better squad.
With the exception of Kawhi, everyone is just an older, slower, less effective version of their '14 selves and LaMarcus is wildly inconsistent. Duncan was still a 15/10 player but now he goes half the series without scoring a bucket.
Thank you. I've been saying this with my friends who said the Spurs are going to steamroll everybody. Duncan is looking 40. Aldridge? Looks like the same guy from POR. Kawhi Leonard is still not there. The rest of the Spurs do look old and slow. '14 Spurs were the greatest Spurs team in franchise history. This 67-15 record is the quietest season record I have ever seen and it's inflated. Same with me and the eye test. Not seeing world beaters with this '16 Spurs team. The game they beat the Warriors? They looked scary but that's the only time I thought they looked legit. The Warriors will thrash them if they make it to the WCF. The Cavs matchup well with them and seeing how they are playing now, they would end the series in 5 games. They have no offense to speak of and the defense is looking bad.
StephHamann
05-11-2016, 04:07 AM
OP is right, you have teams like the Celtics, Mavs, Charlotte who should not make the playoffs based on talent, but they have good coaches that can focus the team on playing tough basketball.
In the playoffs when everybody starts to toughen up they get exposed easily.
Lebron23
05-11-2016, 04:09 AM
I agree. Cavs are way better than the Spurs when they are fully healthy and committed to team success.
Piccolo
05-11-2016, 04:13 AM
I agree. Cavs are way better than the Spurs when they are fully healthy and committed to team success.
This is the perfect time to face the Spurs. It wouldn't even be a series. They look old and slow now and say they make it to the WCF? Say it goes 6-7 games. They will be exhausted. It's the Spurs, so they will beat the Cavs but they don't stand a chance. Many people say that's blasphemy but it's the truth. All Cavs fans should want the Spurs or Thunder in the NBA Finals. No one should feel intimidated here.
Lebron23
05-11-2016, 04:21 AM
This is the perfect time to face the Spurs. It wouldn't even be a series. They look old and slow now and say they make it to the WCF? Say it goes 6-7 games. They will be exhausted. It's the Spurs, so they will beat the Cavs but they don't stand a chance. Many people say that's blasphemy but it's the truth. All Cavs fans should want the Spurs or Thunder in the NBA Finals. No one should feel intimidated here.
I agree. And I love Piccolo by the way. He's now stronger than Kid Buu in dragon ball super.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-11-2016, 04:22 AM
I agree. And I love Piccolo by the way. He's now stronger than Kid Buu in dragon ball super.
Is he stronger than Krillin?
Lebron23
05-11-2016, 04:24 AM
Is he stronger than Krillin?
Yes, General Black.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-11-2016, 04:27 AM
Yes, General Black.
Okay, Captain Yellow.
Did you play basketball recently?
How is ur team doing?
VengefulAngel
05-11-2016, 08:03 AM
Can I ask you guys a serious question would you make the post-season longer or the off-season shorter?
ArbitraryWater
05-11-2016, 08:30 AM
58 games you bozos... each team twice. Whats so hard about that.
beastee
05-11-2016, 02:09 PM
Can I ask you guys a serious question would you make the post-season longer or the off-season shorter?
IF you go 58 games (logical), owners would force a longer postseason. Another round or TWO with byes and such.
Can you imagine how much ticket prices would go up for 58 games....Damn.
tmacattack33
05-25-2016, 12:06 PM
Bumpity bump bump bump.
The greatest regular season team ever is now down 3-1 in the WCF.
Sarcastic
05-25-2016, 12:16 PM
And then during the off season you'll complain that there's no basketball on, and the players don't need this much rest. :violin:
Legends66NBA7
05-25-2016, 12:25 PM
The 82 game season will remain forever.
No ****ng way is a multi-billion dollar league like the NBA going lose money by shortening the regular season.
ImKobe
05-25-2016, 12:29 PM
And then during the off season you'll complain that there's no basketball on, and the players don't need this much rest. :violin:
Rinse and repeat.
Off-season: omg why is it so long can't wait for the season!
50 games into the season: omg why is it so long can't wait for the Playoffs!
Playoffs: regular season is a joke why is it so long!
:biggums:
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