PPG average with the chance to clinch the series.

[Hey Yo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiXBQ1rXAAAaekz.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

you mean closeout games? :lol

[Smoke117]

Iverson's is on about 30 shots though.

[Hey Yo]

you mean closeout games? :lol
I guess that's the more popular way of saying it. I just said what the image said w/o really giving it a thought.

[ArbitraryWater]

Iverson's is on about 30 shots though.

exactly.. this graphic says about as little as possible

[feyki]

Iverson's is on about 30 shots though.

Jordan?

[ArbitraryWater]

Jordan?

Michael Jordan
34.1 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.0 SPG, .9 BPG, 3.1 TOPG, 48.5 FG%, 31.1 3P%, 82.0 FT%

[ISHGoat]

Kobes? Lebrons?

[Hey Yo]

Michael Jordan
34.1 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.0 SPG, .9 BPG, 3.1 TOPG, 48.5 FG%, 31.1 3P%, 82.0 FT%
Where's the FGA? :lol

[LAZERUSS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiXBQ1rXAAAaekz.jpg

Wilt in his 37 series clinching, or must win, post-season games...


W-L : 24-13

Here were Wilt's averages in those 37 games:

29.5 ppg

26.1 rpg

4.2 apg (missing one game)

.546 FG% (in post-seasons that shot about .440 on average in that span.)

Keep in mind that 24 of those 37 games came after his "scoring seasons" (59-60 thru 65-66)

[CavaliersFTW]

Wilt in his 37 series clinching, or must win, post-season games...
And 9 of those 37 games have shot blocking data. In those 9 known shot block data games, the average is 10.4 blocks per game.

[riseagainst]

MJ and Durant

:bowdown:

[feyki]

Michael Jordan
34.1 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 5.7 APG, 2.0 SPG, .9 BPG, 3.1 TOPG, 48.5 FG%, 31.1 3P%, 82.0 FT%

So , he took 30 fga a game in those games ( or almost , appromatixely ) .

[riseagainst]

So , he took 30 fga a game in those games ( or almost , appromatixely ) .

unless he attempted like 15 freethrows.

[Mr Feeny]

Wilt in his 37 series clinching, or must win, post-season games...

So less than Durant and Iverson :lebronamazed:

Not surprised. Wed are talking about a loser who only averaged 22 ppg for his career in the playoffs:lol

[feyki]

unless he attempted like 15 freethrows.

I'm confused with TS% :confusedshrug: .

Yes , he had around 23-24 shots a game in that data ( probably ) .

But Iverson played in tougher era . Lg points per poss was 5-6 points less in Ivy's era at least .

There's not a big difference . Both did use 30 possesion a game when adjusting the defence .

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm confused with TS% :confusedshrug: .

Yes , he had around 23-24 shots a game in that data ( probably ) .

But Iverson played in tougher era . Lg points per poss was 5-6 points less in Ivy's era at least .

There's not a big difference . Both did use 30 possesion a game when adjusting the defence .


http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png

[CavaliersFTW]

So less than Durant and Iverson :lebronamazed:

Not surprised. Wed are talking about a loser who only averaged 22 ppg for his career in the playoffs:lol
You mean the guy who 70% of his playoff games were played during seasons which he only averaged about 14-24ppg in the regular season because they added 7 game series to the first round (up from 5) and added an entirely new playoff round?

Yeah, that won't skew playoff stats.

[feyki]

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png


Ivy's opponents at 99-03 ;

99 Magic - 97 Drtg

99 Pacers - 104 Drtg

00 Hornets - 101 Drtg

00 Pacers - 104 Drtg

01 Bucks - 104 Drtg

01 Raptors - 103 Drtg

01 Pacers - 102 Drtg

02 Celtics - 101 Drtg

03 Hornets - 102 Drtg

03 Pistons - 100 Drtg


Jordan's at 89-93 ;

89 Cavs - 103 Drtg

89 Knicks - 107 Drtg

89 Pistons - 105 Drtg

90 Bucks - 108 Drtg

90 Phila - 108 Drtg

90 Pistons - 103 Drtg

91 Knicks - 107 Drtg

91 Phila - 108 Drtg

91 Pistons - 104 Drtg

91 LA - 105 Drtg

92 Heat - 111 Drtg

92 Knicks - 104 Drtg

92 Cavs - 108 Drtg

92 Blazers - 104 Drtg

93 Hawks - 110 Drtg

93 Cavs - 106 Drtg

93 Knicks - 100 Drtg

93 Suns - 107 Drtg


99-03 LG Avg. 103 Drtg

89-93 Lg Avg. 108 Drtg

:coleman:

[Bankaii]

Iverson:applause:
How great is our P4P GOAT:bowdown:

[LAZERUSS]

You mean the guy who 70% of his playoff games were played during seasons which he only averaged about 14-24ppg in the regular season because they added 7 game series to the first round (up from 5) and added an entirely new playoff round?

Yeah, that won't skew playoff stats.

Exactly.

A "scoring" Chamberlain...from '60-'66... played in 16 series' clinching, or do-or-die games...and averaged 36 ppg. Included were games of 40, 46, 50, 53, and 56 points.

[LAZERUSS]

So less than Durant and Iverson :lebronamazed:

Not surprised. Wed are talking about a loser who only averaged 22 ppg for his career in the playoffs:lol

So a Wilt who played in a career 37 series' clinching, or must win games, including a considerable amount after his knee operation, and well into his 30's...averaged 29.5 ppg.

Your boy, Fragile Curry, in his peak years, has averaged 25 ppg in his 11 series's clinchers and must win games. Hell, his team just essentially went 7-1 in the post-season without him...and when he returned, it took a Barnes shot to get them into OT, and then in the next game, they eked out a 4 point win on their home floor.

Without the clutch play of Barnes, GAC would have been the considered the choker in that game four BTW.

I'll look up Lebron's stats a little later on, but I already know his FG% shooting was very poor overall in these types of games.

[PHILA]

Iverson:applause:
How great is our P4P GOAT:bowdown:
Even though he only shot 41.5% (27.7 FGA) in 10 potential close out games, he had few big ones. His best probably was in 2003 Game 6 against the Hornets.

4th Quarter Stats: 15 Pts, 4/7 FG, 6/8 FT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSRf5mttpcc

[LAZERUSS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiXBQ1rXAAAaekz.jpg

So, whoever came up with this list missed at least two in between...

Wilt
37 series' clinching or do-or-die games...

29.5 ppg
26.1 rpg
4.2 apg
.546 FG%
Games of 40, 45, 46, 50, 53, and 56 points.


Lebron
44 series' clinching or do-or-die games

28.3 ppg
9.5 rpg
6.9 apg
.459 FG%
Games of 45 and 45 points.


Of course, Lebron benefitted from far more playoff rounds, as well as facing many first and second round cannon-fodder teams. Playing in the East in all of those seasons certainly helped his numbers, as well.

[LAZERUSS]

Last time I checked...

Do-or-die playoff games...

Lebron 31.9 ppg
MJ 31.3 ppg
Wilt 31.1 ppg

[LAZERUSS]

And 9 of those 37 games have shot blocking data. In those 9 known shot block data games, the average is 10.4 blocks per game.

Julizaver, who is one of the researchers on the nbastats.net site, has Wilt with 590 known blocks in 81 of his 160 playoff games. Or, well ahead of the "official" leader, Tim Duncan, who posted 568 in 251 playoff games.

Think about...if Chamberlain had blocked ZERO shots in his 79 other playoff games, he would still be averaging 3.7 bpg, or ahead of the career post-season leader (Hakeem) at 3.3 bpg.

Of course, if Chamberlain blocked at the same rate in those 79 other playoff games, which is an unknown (at least right now), he would have averaged 7.3 bpg!

[Mr Feeny]

You mean the guy who 70% of his playoff games were played during seasons which he only averaged about 14-24ppg in the regular season because they added 7 game series to the first round (up from 5) and added an entirely new playoff round?

Yeah, that won't skew playoff stats.

Twenty two :lebronamazed:
"Skew":oldlol: It's 22 ppg :roll:

[Mr Feeny]

Last I checked in the playoffs,


Lebron 28 ppg
MJ 33.5 ppg
Ilt 22 ppg


:applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Twenty two :lebronamazed:
"Skew":oldlol: It's 22 ppg :roll:

Of course, he was also outrebounding EVERYONE in his post-season play, most certainly blocking 7+ shots per game, and reducing his HOF peers to horrific efficiency. Hell, an old Wilt held a PEAK Kareem to two consecutive post-season series of .481 and .457 shooting (and only .414 in the last four pivotal games of that series) in seasons in which KAJ shot .577 and .574 against the NBA. All while completely intimidating him. BTW, in their two series' clinching games...Wilt outshot Kareem, .545 (18-33) to .383 (23-60) from the field.

And again, a "scoring" Wilt averaged 33 ppg in his first six post-seasons. Furthermore, in his first seven, he averaged 30-27-5 (and 7+ bpg) on a FG% that was almost a full ten percentage points above the post-season league average. Find me another GOAT who put up a 30-27-5-8 SERIES, much less over the course of 67 playoff games. Hell, I doubt you could find ONE post-season GAME by a GOAT candidate with that stat-line.

Of course, a scoring Wilt also had post-season runs of 33 ppg, 35 ppg, 35 ppg, and 37 ppg. As well as post-season series of 37 ppg, 37 ppg, 39 ppg, and 39 ppg. Furthermore, he had series against RUSSELL of 28-30, 29-28, 30-31, 31-27, and 34-27. Not to mention must win or series clinching games of 40, 45, 46, 50, 53, and 56 points.

Finally, Chamberlain won two FMVPs in Finals in which he averaged 17.5 ppg and 19.0 ppg. And in one of those, he had a HOF opposing player (Barry) who averaged 41 ppg.

Compare that with your boy Lebron losing out on the FMVP to a bench player, in a series in which LBJ averaged 36 ppg (on, as was almost always the case...a horrific FG%.)

[LAZERUSS]

Last I checked in the playoffs,


Lebron 28 ppg
MJ 33.5 ppg
Ilt 22 ppg


:applause:

Last I checked...


Wilt
37 series' clinching or do-or-die games...

29.5 ppg
26.1 rpg
4.2 apg
.546 FG%
Games of 40, 45, 46, 50, 53, and 56 points.


Lebron
44 series' clinching or do-or-die games

28.3 ppg
9.5 rpg
6.9 apg
.459 FG%
Games of 45 and 45 points.


Of course, Lebron benefitted from far more playoff rounds, as well as facing many first and second round cannon-fodder teams. Playing in the East in all of those seasons certainly helped his numbers, as well.

Chamberlain destroys LBJ in almost every category. And that doesn't take into account his dominating defense, either.

And again...Lebron benefitted from playing in the weaker eastern conference...while Chamberlain played in the eastern conference in most of his prime, and faced the greatest defensive player, and team, of his era, EIGHT times in his ten prime seasons...most in either the first or second round. BTW, had Chamberlain faced the Lakers in the decade of the 60's, like Russell did in five Finals, he most certainly would have put up far greater scoring numbers.