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Lebron23
05-13-2016, 09:35 PM
1984 playoffs
38 win Kansas City Kings
43 win Dallas Mavericks
41 win Suns in the WC Finals

1985 Playoffs
36 win Suns
42 win Blazers
52 win Nuggets

1986 Playoffs
35 win Spurs
44 win Mavs
51 win Rockets ( A series they lost)

1987 Playoffs
37 win Nuggets
42 win Warriors
39 win Supersonics

1988 Playoffs
31 win Spurs
47 win Jazz
53 win Mavs

1989 Playoffs
39 win Blazers
47 win Supersonics
55 win Suns

Look at the record of their opponents in the playoffs.

KobesFinger
05-13-2016, 09:40 PM
Still more 50 win teams in that period than LeBron

Lebron23
05-13-2016, 09:42 PM
Still more 50 win teams in that period than LeBron


His teams were also more stacked than LeBron's teams, but LeBron with the same numbers of Finals MVP as Magic after this season.

Nick Young
05-13-2016, 09:43 PM
a classic Lebron23 manic meltdown in progress:lol

Lamar Odumbb
05-13-2016, 09:44 PM
1984 playoffs
38 win Kansas City Kings
43 win Dallas Mavericks
41 win Suns in the WC Finals

1985 Playoffs
36 win Suns
42 win Blazers
52 win Nuggets

1986 Playoffs
35 win Spurs
44 win Mavs
51 win Rockets ( A series they lost)

1987 Playoffs
37 win Nuggets
42 win Warriors
39 win Supersonics

1988 Playoffs
31 win Spurs
47 win Jazz
53 win Mavs

1989 Playoffs
39 win Blazers
47 win Supersonics
55 win Suns

Look at the record of their opponents in the playoffs.

The 88 Jazz, 89 Suns, 85 Nuggets, and 86 Rockets would murder the 2 seed Raptors. Thats how bad the East is. I actually am old enough to have watched those games live and not reading stats online.

Lebron23
05-13-2016, 09:45 PM
a classic Lebron23 manic meltdown in progress:lol


Los Angeles Losers. Hold this L until 2030.

Lamar Odumbb
05-13-2016, 09:49 PM
Los Angeles Losers. Hold this L until 2030.

You have 53,000 posts and are calling people losers. You post 500 times per month and 100 times per week.

BeastMode24
05-13-2016, 09:50 PM
yes that's why magic is overrated. played on an incredibly stacked down in a terrible conference

CJ Mustard
05-13-2016, 09:51 PM
And they won 5 titles. How many Bron got?

jimmy77x
05-13-2016, 09:53 PM
You have 53,000 posts and are calling people losers. You post 500 times per month and 100 times per week.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-13-2016, 09:55 PM
You have 53,000 posts and are calling people losers. You post 500 times per month and 100 times per week.
Damn:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Magic 32
05-13-2016, 09:56 PM
So they are just like Lebron except they won more than half of the time.

Lebron stans only needs him to get to the finals before they declare him a winner. And that's the point when exposing the (L)east.

K Xerxes
05-13-2016, 10:01 PM
His teams were also more stacked than LeBron's teams, but LeBron with the same numbers of Finals MVP as Magic after this season.

No, after this season LeBron will have donated more FMVPs to the opposing role player guarding him than he will have won himself.

Iceman#44
05-13-2016, 10:05 PM
You have 53,000 posts and are calling people losers. You post 500 times per month and 100 times per week.
Damn:lol :lol

FreezingTsmoove
05-13-2016, 10:07 PM
You have 53,000 posts and are calling people losers. You post 500 times per month and 100 times per week.

/thread again pinoi

LAZERUSS
05-13-2016, 10:50 PM
1984 playoffs
38 win Kansas City Kings
43 win Dallas Mavericks
41 win Suns in the WC Finals

1985 Playoffs
36 win Suns
42 win Blazers
52 win Nuggets

1986 Playoffs
35 win Spurs
44 win Mavs
51 win Rockets ( A series they lost)

1987 Playoffs
37 win Nuggets
42 win Warriors
39 win Supersonics

1988 Playoffs
31 win Spurs
47 win Jazz
53 win Mavs

1989 Playoffs
39 win Blazers
47 win Supersonics
55 win Suns

Look at the record of their opponents in the playoffs.

From '80 thru '91 Magic's Lakers beat more 50+ and 60+ win teams in the playoffs than Bird's Celtics. They were also more dominant against the Eastern Conference teams in the post-season than Bird's Celtics were.

mr4speed
05-14-2016, 12:19 AM
From '80 thru '91 Magic's Lakers beat more 50+ and 60+ win teams in the playoffs than Bird's Celtics. They were also more dominant against the Eastern Conference teams in the post-season than Bird's Celtics were.

Context - LA made nine trips to the finals (that would not have happened if LA and Boston had switched conferences) so LA played more playoff games and had more opportunities. And the 50 and 60 win teams of the west were weaker than the 50 and 60 win teams of the east.

LAZERUSS
05-14-2016, 12:34 AM
Context - LA made nine trips to the finals (that would not have happened if LA and Boston had switched conferences) so LA played more playoff games and had more opportunities. And the 50 and 60 win teams of the west were weaker than the 50 and 60 win teams of the east.

Hard to say.

The Sonics were a 56-26 defending champion that had beaten LA in the playoffs the two seasons before Magic arrived.

Then, the Lakers easily beat the 59-23 Sixers in the '80 Finals (4-2, and winning game six on the road without KAJ.) And then the 58-24 Sixers again in the '82 Finals...4-2. And in those two years, the Sixers beat Bird's Celtics 61-21 Celtics in '80, and his 63-19 Celtics in '82.

The '81 Celtics barely beat the 62-20 Sixers, and in fact, won the three straight games by the narrowest of margins in each.

'83? Boston got swept by the 51-31 Bucks...so they didn't even face the 65-17 Sixers team that swept Magic's Lakers (who were without Worthy.)

'84. Boston beat a 50-32 Milwaukee team. Big deal. And you could certainly make a case that they lucked out against the Lakers in the Finals.

'85? Boston beat a very good 58-24 Sixers team...but, the Lakers beat the Celtics 4-2, including the clincher on Boston's home floor.

'86? Boston's best run in the '80's...and aided by a stunning Rockets upset of the Lakers.

'87? Makes no difference at all. Magic's Lakers were clearly the best team in the league, and they easily beat the Celtics in the Finals.

'88? Boston was beaten 4-2 by the Pistons in the ECF's, while LA eked out a seven game Finals win against them.

The rest ('89 thru '91) are all Magic's Lakers, including beating the favored 63-19 Blazers in the WCF's in Magic's last year.

Lebron23
05-14-2016, 12:42 AM
Thank you for making this thread on topic.


Off topic. Lakers won't win another playoffs series unless they sign a Superstar player in the 2016-17 off season. Durant won't sign with them. He's in a much better situation in Oklahoma.

LAZERUSS
05-14-2016, 12:51 AM
Thank you for making this thread on topic.


Off topic. Lakers won't win another playoffs series unless they sign a Superstar player in the 2016-17 off season. Durant won't sign with them. He's in a much better situation in Oklahoma.

How about the Eastern Conference in the Lebron years?

Baller1986
05-14-2016, 01:02 AM
How about the Eastern Conference in the Lebron years?


At least they are more competitive. LeBron played with less talented teams than Magic Lakers. That's why he's ranked higher than Magic and Wilt because he's a better individual player than them, and LBJ is also a better Finals and Playoffs performer than Ilt.

FreezingTsmoove
05-14-2016, 01:05 AM
Thank you for making this thread on topic.


Off topic. Lakers won't win another playoffs series unless they sign a Superstar player in the 2016-17 off season. Durant won't sign with them. He's in a much better situation in Oklahoma.

Its ok man here in America, NBA TV shows Hardwood Classics all summer long. I can relive Magic, Shaq, Kobe, hell even Wilt winning championships all season long. They also do Kobe days where I can rewatch his greatest performances and they usually include the 81 point game, 09 finals, 00 finals etc. I guess you can rewatch a couple of the Cavs first round series on youtube :lol

ballinhun8
05-14-2016, 01:10 AM
Thank you for making this thread on topic.


Off topic. Lakers won't win another playoffs series unless they sign a Superstar player in the 2016-17 off season. Durant won't sign with them. He's in a much better situation in Oklahoma.



So you get owned in your own thread then try to go off topic and make fun of LAKER fans.



At least they stay loyal unlikely your punk ass.

mr4speed
05-14-2016, 01:13 AM
Thank you for making this thread on topic.


Off topic. Lakers won't win another playoffs series unless they sign a Superstar player in the 2016-17 off season. Durant won't sign with them. He's in a much better situation in Oklahoma.

Back on topic - see Dave Heeren's "Basketball Abstract" 1990=1991 edition as it has a recap of the decade of the 80's. FYI with all teams involved top to bottom - the east dominated the west every year for all 10 years of the decade when measured head to head , east vs west. That is not to say the Lakers did not have a great team and great players - they did but the playoff path was much easier for them than being in the east.

LAZERUSS
05-14-2016, 01:14 AM
At least they are more competitive. LeBron played with less talented teams than Magic Lakers. That's why he's ranked higher than Magic and Wilt because he's a better individual player than them, and LBJ is also a better Finals and Playoffs performer than Ilt.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

Using ESPN's "poll" which was comprised on a small list of unidentified writers and editors? For all we know it was their cleaning ladies randomly pulling names out of a hat.

BTW, Sports Illustrated's "2016 list" had Lebron at #5, Magic at #4, and Wilt at #3.

Baller1986
05-14-2016, 01:16 AM
Its ok man here in America, NBA TV shows Hardwood Classics all summer long. I can relive Magic, Shaq, Kobe, hell even Wilt winning championships all season long. They also do Kobe days where I can rewatch his greatest performances and they usually include the 81 point game, 09 finals, 00 finals etc. I guess you can rewatch a couple of the Cavs first round series on youtube :lol


Lebron23 have a Cable TV. Do you even own a television? They watch some NBA greatest games in his big house.

Baller1986
05-14-2016, 01:18 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Using ESPN's "poll" which was comprised on a small list of unidentified writers and editors? For all we know it was their cleaning ladies randomly pulling names out of a hat.

BTW, Sports Illustrated's "2016 list" had Lebron at #5, Magic at #4, and Wilt at #3.


Wilt is the worst Finals performer among the top 12 greatest player of all time. He only averaged 18 ppg in 6th NBA Finals Appearance. Kobe who's averaging 25 ppg on 41 FG% is better than Ilt in the Finals.

LAZERUSS
05-14-2016, 01:22 AM
Wilt is the worst Finals performer among the top 12 greatest player of all time. He only averaged 18 ppg in 6th NBA Finals Appearance. Kobe who's averaging 25 ppg on 41 FG% is better than Ilt in the Finals.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chamberlain won two FMVPs (yes, he would have been a unanimous FMVP in '67) with averages of 17.5 ppg and 19.0 ppg.

Furthermore, Wilt would have won that '67 FMVP, in a series in which an opposing player averaged 41 ppg. Meanwhile, Lebron LOST out to a role player off the bench, in a series in which he averaged 36 ppg.

And Wilt was the best player on the floor in two more Finals in which he averaged 29-28 .517 (in a post-season that shot .420...and against Russell), and 23-24 .625 FG% )only four months after major knee surgery.)

BTW, take away Lebron's '15 Finals, in which his stats were completely meaningless (biggest blowut differential in Finals history)...and his Finals FG% was around .440 (if that...I won't bother looking it up.)

Incidently, Chamberlain was the leading rebounder in all six of his Finals (some by huge margins), and outshot his HOF opposing centers by a collective .559 to .439 margin.

Baller1986
05-14-2016, 02:31 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chamberlain won two FMVPs (yes, he would have been a unanimous FMVP in '67) with averages of 17.5 ppg and 19.0 ppg.

Furthermore, Wilt would have won that '67 FMVP, in a series in which an opposing player averaged 41 ppg. Meanwhile, Lebron LOST out to a role player off the bench, in a series in which he averaged 36 ppg.

And Wilt was the best player on the floor in two more Finals in which he averaged 29-28 .517 (in a post-season that shot .420...and against Russell), and 23-24 .625 FG% )only four months after major knee surgery.)

BTW, take away Lebron's '15 Finals, in which his stats were completely meaningless (biggest blowut differential in Finals history)...and his Finals FG% was around .440 (if that...I won't bother looking it up.)

Incidently, Chamberlain was the leading rebounder in all six of his Finals (some by huge margins), and outshot his HOF opposing centers by a collective .559 to .439 margin.

Chamberlain was a playoffs loser, and a finals choker. He won 2 NBA titles in which the NBA had less than 15 teams.

LeBron is a superior playoffs and finals performer than Ilt. And just what LeBron23 said he's going to have more Finals MVP than Ilt.

SpaceJam
05-14-2016, 02:38 AM
Lebron23 have a Cable TV. Do you even own a television? They watch some NBA greatest games in his big house.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Dude talking about himself in third person