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Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 01:48 AM
This has been in the works for some time now. There's two sides to the basketball court. I've refined the ISBOB
BlakFrankWhite
05-17-2016, 01:50 AM
Durant 2013-14
Westbrook 2014-15
Kobe 2005-06
shaq 1999-00
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-17-2016, 01:53 AM
85, 86 (playoffs), 87, 88 Bird
14 KD
08, 09 CP3
88, 89, 90, 91 MJ
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 01:59 AM
Durant 2013-14
Westbrook 2014-15
Kobe 2005-06
Shawnee 1999-00
Durant 2013-14: 1.31 ISBOB
Marchesk
05-17-2016, 02:02 AM
Wilt 61/62
Born Sinner
05-17-2016, 02:03 AM
02 jason kidd and 03
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-17-2016, 02:05 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]Durant 2013-14: 1.31 ISBOB
SpaceJam
05-17-2016, 02:07 AM
ImStillBallin.....the gift that keeps on giving
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 02:15 AM
85, 86 (playoffs), 87, 88 Bird
14 KD
08, 09 CP3
88, 89, 90, 91 MJ
85 playoffs: 0.52 ISBOB
NBAGOAT
05-17-2016, 02:15 AM
shaq's too low he's still more efficient than most even with his bad ft shooting. Lebron 09,13,14, Curry 2015, Tmac 03, Wade 09, and Kareem 71,77.
Marchesk
05-17-2016, 02:16 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]88 MJ: 1.44 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 02:17 AM
Wilt 61/62
Unfortunately bro we don't have on/off statistics for that far back
In the original formula for ISBDB
Marchesk
05-17-2016, 02:18 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]Unfortunately bro we don't have on/off statistics for that far back
In the original formula for ISBDB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 02:19 AM
02 jason kidd and 03
02: 0.38 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 02:28 AM
shaq's too low he's still more efficient than most even with his bad ft shooting. Lebron 09,13,14, Curry 2015, Tmac 03, Wade 09, and Kareem 71,77.
LeBron 09: 1.39 ISBOB
StephHamann
05-17-2016, 02:48 AM
Dirk 2011
Young X
05-17-2016, 03:00 AM
2007 Nash
2015 CP3
NBAGOAT
05-17-2016, 03:27 AM
94 Shaq. Have a feeling this is shaq's highest year.
Marchesk
05-17-2016, 03:27 AM
2013 Bennett
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:29 AM
Dirk 2011
0.63 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:32 AM
2007 Nash
2015 CP3
1.01 ISBOB
StephHamann
05-17-2016, 03:33 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]0.63 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:34 AM
94 Shaq. Have a feeling this is shaq's highest year.
0.91 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:34 AM
It seems the +- individual variables/component are too drastically determining the end ISBOB™ result
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:37 AM
2013 Bennett
-0.74 ISBOB
Young X
05-17-2016, 03:38 AM
2003 Garnett
2003 Duncan
You should somehow combine this with the defensive stat to find the best single seasons. My guess is '94 Robinson would be better than anyone else.
zeerghit
05-17-2016, 03:46 AM
derozen 16 playoff
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:48 AM
2003 Garnett
2003 Duncan
You should somehow combine this with the defensive stat to find the best single seasons. My guess is '94 Robinson would be better than anyone else.
Garnett: 0.80 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:50 AM
derozen 16 playoff
-0.49 ISBOB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 03:59 AM
Shaq 2000
0.99 ISBOB™
0.57 ISBDB™
1.56 ISBR™
Stephen Curry 2016
1.75 ISBOB™
0.16 ISBDB™
1.91 ISBR™
Different eras... Era specificity is inevitably always an issue it seems
zeerghit
05-17-2016, 06:48 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]-0.49 ISBOB
ArbitraryWater
05-17-2016, 07:44 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]0.63 ISBOB
aj1987
05-17-2016, 08:05 AM
2003 Garnett
2003 Duncan
You should somehow combine this with the defensive stat to find the best single seasons. My guess is '94 Robinson would be better than anyone else.
shaq's too low he's still more efficient than most even with his bad ft shooting. Lebron 09,13,14, Curry 2015, Tmac 03, Wade 09, and Kareem 71,77.
Har_en a better offensive player than peak Shaq..............
yeah this stat needs work bro lol
You guys do realize that it's a bullshit made up "stat", right?
ArbitraryWater
05-17-2016, 08:07 AM
You guys do realize that it's a bullshit made up "stat", right?
I thought so too, but then he said he doesn't have the +/- for KAJ in '71, if he'd just be pulling random numbers out of his ass, I don't think he'd notice that fact... so he likely is looking at a few things.
NBAGOAT
05-17-2016, 08:10 AM
You guys do realize that it's a bullshit made up "stat", right?
good chance but it seems damn weird for ballin to undervalue shaq knowing who he stans and hates on.
aj1987
05-17-2016, 08:15 AM
good chance but it seems damn weird for ballin to undervalue shaq knowing who he stans and hates on.
I thought so too, but then he said he doesn't have the +/- for KAJ in '71, if he'd just be pulling random numbers out of his ass, I don't think he'd notice that fact... so he likely is looking at a few things.
I've developed an even more complex and advanced metric called the AJOI (AJ Offensive Impact). It's a significant improvement over the ISBOB, which is quite primitive and doesn't take into account all parameters of an offensive players impact. Let me do this for a couple of players.
Curry in '16 - 9.8
Kobe in '06 - 8.7
Shaq in '00 - 9.3
Magic in '87 - 9.5
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 08:17 AM
ISBOB™ is based on RAPM, DWSR and raw statistics
Refer yourself to the InsideHoops Compendium for more information,
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 08:21 AM
you gotta work on a refined version for this stat, man.. usually advanced stats show Dirk's elite offensive impact.
The DWSR and standardized RAPM component for Dirk in 2011 is questionable
Let me do some number crunching,
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