View Full Version : Great new statistic that evaluates the scoring efficiency of individuals: ISEA
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:06 AM
I've done my homework and calculations along with my research team and found this flawless way of evaluating scoring efficency. It is more accurate than FG%, TS%, etc, while accounting for points actually scored (being efficient but only getting 4ppg is not going to have a great ISEA
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 09:08 AM
2014 Demarcus Cousins
2006 Allen Iverson
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:13 AM
2014 Demarcus Cousins
2006 Allen Iverson
2014 Demarcus: 0.625
2006 Iverson: 0.801
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 09:14 AM
Criticism:
How can this be an efficiency stat if you're accounting for raw totals like Points scored... Suggesting that a higher efficiency ISEA™ from solely scoring more total points
Kind of defeats the purpose and efficacy of an efficiency stat
AkronAngel
05-17-2016, 09:15 AM
2016 Kobe plz
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 09:16 AM
What is your equation formula for ISEA™
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:17 AM
2016 Kobe plz
2016 Kobe: 0.296
r0drig0lac
05-17-2016, 09:17 AM
[QUOTE=DingDengDong]I've done my homework and calculations along with my research team and found this flawless way of evaluating scoring efficency. It is more accurate than FG%, TS%, etc, while accounting for points actually scored (being efficient but only getting 4ppg is not going to have a great ISEA
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:18 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]Criticism:
How can this be an efficiency stat if you're accounting for raw totals like Points scored... Suggesting that a higher efficiency ISEA
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:18 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]What is your equation formula for ISEA
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 09:21 AM
So it's not really an efficiency stat because there is a positive volume component?
My defensive and offensive stats work because they are not biased towards playing time. Hence why Andre Roberson has one of the top ISBDB™ marks in the playoffs
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:23 AM
Decided to compare this season's Durant vs Westbrook given how much people like to debate who is better:
2016 Westbrook: 0.591
2016 Durant: 0.903
This shows that Durant is clearly the better scorer. Obviously it doesn't say who the better player is overall though, since D, assists, rebs, etc aren't part of this.
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:26 AM
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]So it's not really an efficiency stat because there is a positive volume component?
My defensive and offensive stats work because they are not biased towards playing time. Hence why Andre Roberson has one of the top ISBDB
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 09:26 AM
For example; Channing Frye in the 2016 playoffs has a 0.90 ISBOB™
Yet he's only played a fraction over a 100 minutes so far
JohnnySic
05-17-2016, 09:27 AM
Advanced stats are stupid.
Lebronxrings
05-17-2016, 09:28 AM
2016 Kobe: 0.296
:yaohappy:
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:32 AM
:yaohappy:
I think we could have predicted it would be bad this year.
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:34 AM
Here is Primebe (2006): 0.890
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 09:37 AM
Your stat looks okay, but I'm not sure if it's legit or you are just joking
What are your main component variables to your formula?
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:42 AM
Your stat looks okay, but I'm not sure if it's legit or you are just joking
What are your main component variables to your formula?
All I can disclose is that it has a combination of points produced and efficiency in scoring those points.
Any other players you are curious about?
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:44 AM
Kobe's career: .615
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:46 AM
LeBron career: .787
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:47 AM
2010 LeBron: 0.902
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 09:49 AM
62 Wilt: 1.367 :bowdown:
Hittin_Shots
05-17-2016, 10:03 AM
So this is the new stupid shit this forums bellends are running with?
Lebronxrings
05-17-2016, 10:05 AM
Kobe's career: .615
LeBron career: .787
:lol
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 10:05 AM
So this is the new stupid shit this forums bellends are running with?
So you don't like talking basketball? Maybe you should stick to the same troll threads that come up day after day.
tamaraw08
05-17-2016, 10:06 AM
[QUOTE=DingDengDong]I've done my homework and calculations along with my research team and found this flawless way of evaluating scoring efficency. It is more accurate than FG%, TS%, etc, while accounting for points actually scored (being efficient but only getting 4ppg is not going to have a great ISEA
tamaraw08
05-17-2016, 10:09 AM
:lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by DingDengDong
Kobe's career: .615
Quote:
Originally Posted by DingDengDong
LeBron career: .787
How Lebronx"rings" laughing?
how about this stat,
Kobe, 5-7
Lebron 2 of 6?
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 10:13 AM
Some key players of this playoffs:
Klay: 0.788
Steph: 0.720
LeBron: 0.648
Westbrook: 0.538
Durant: 0.611
Lowry: 0.327
Derozan: 0.302
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 10:24 AM
Would you please reveal your formula?
I can't understand how Shaq is lower than Curry when he shoots a much Higher %.
What's peak Duncan's, 2002-2005?
How about DeAndre Jordan?
1994 Shaq and Hakeem?
Can't reveal the formula for legal reasons as stated earlier. Shaq and Curry both have some all time high numbers there. There is no reason to be upset by that, but this is more advanced than simply higher fg%. Clearly Shaq's free throws her his efficiency, while Curry's 3s help, just as any other efficiency formula would show you.
2002 Duncan: 0.746
2016 DeAndre: 0.561 (not a big time scorer, so that hurts as well as free throws)
1994 Shaq: 1.062
1994 Hakeem: 0.814
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 10:38 AM
So this is the new stupid shit this forums bellends are running with?
He's just trolling
Parodying the advanced statistics I made in the last few days, which are based on xRAPM/Optimized plus minus and DWSR with a few other things like block rate/steal rate
Go check out the InsideHoops Compendium for more information;
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 10:44 AM
He's just trolling
Parodying the advanced statistics I made in the last few days, which are based on xRAPM/Optimized plus minus and DWSR with a few other things like block rate/steal rate
Go check out the InsideHoops Compendium for more information;
I got the idea to create a formula because of your threads, but it isn't trolling. The stats are legit, you yourself stated that they seemed legit. There is no agenda but to come up with a stat that reflects the efficiency and productivity of players.
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 10:47 AM
I got the idea to create a formula because of your threads, but it isn't trolling. The stats are legit. There is no agenda but to come up with a stat that reflects the efficiency and productivity of players.
You're trolling
Tell us what variables/components you are using in your formula
I'm using WSR, xRAPM, BPM (OBPM/DBPM), Block and steal rates and an isolated component of raw blocks and steals totals
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 10:51 AM
You're trolling
Tell us what variables/components you are using in your formula
I'm using WSR, xRAPM, BPM (OBPM/DBPM), Block and steal rates and an isolated component of raw blocks and steals totals
So I'm trolling because I'm not sharing my formula? :hammerhead:
Lets stick to player comparisons rather than attacking one another's formulas.
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:11 AM
Iverson's 2001 MVP season: 0.677
For those paying attention, that is worse than his 2006 campaign.
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:13 AM
2009 Wade: 0.851
Not bad.
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:15 AM
2014 Durant: 1.022
That is better than Curry this year :eek:
SpaceJam
05-17-2016, 11:16 AM
2011 Rose
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:26 AM
2011 Rose
0.612
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:27 AM
Shaq's career: .926
That is amazing.
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:28 AM
Wilt's career: 0.889
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:30 AM
1970 Jerry West: 0.887
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:32 AM
'72 Kareem: 1.205
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 11:34 AM
2006 Arenas: 0.761
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2016, 12:32 PM
I'm sorry for attacking you earlier bro
Just lifted some weights and the endorphins are relaxing me down
Good shit bro. InsideHoops has had excellent content of recent!
DingDengDong
05-17-2016, 12:57 PM
I'm sorry for attacking you earlier bro
Just lifted some weights and the endorphins are relaxing me down
Good shit bro. InsideHoops has had excellent content of recent!
:cheers:
SpaceJam
05-17-2016, 01:00 PM
Just two future John Hollinger respecting each others work DAMN
tamaraw08
05-17-2016, 05:03 PM
Can't reveal the formula for legal reasons as stated earlier. Shaq and Curry both have some all time high numbers there. There is no reason to be upset by that, but this is more advanced than simply higher fg%. Clearly Shaq's free throws her his efficiency, while Curry's 3s help, just as any other efficiency formula would show you.
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2002 Duncan: 0.746
2016 DeAndre: 0.561 (not a big time scorer, so that hurts as well as free throws)
1994 Shaq: 1.062
1994 Hakeem: 0.814
Dude, I am not upset, but more confused on how Steph's best is better than Shaq's, was it a freak accident? How was Steph's 2 or 3 years ago, ?
I want to compare KG 2003 vs Pau 2006-07,
How About Carmelo 2012 to Rose 2011?
Can you atleast mention the top 5 components?
Optimus Prime
05-17-2016, 05:12 PM
Might as well just name all these "advanced stats" MLLB...
Make
LeBron
Look
Better
Because that's all they are. "Advanced metrics" are useless.
:kobe:
ISHGoat
05-17-2016, 05:53 PM
Might as well just name all these "advanced stats" MLLB...
Make
LeBron
Look
Better
Because that's all they are. "Advanced metrics" are useless.
:kobe:
IQ < 100 spotted
scuzzy
05-17-2016, 05:53 PM
Dude, I am not upset, but more confused on how Steph's best is better than Shaq's, was it a freak accident? How was Steph's 2 or 3 years ago, ?
I want to compare KG 2003 vs Pau 2006-07,
How About Carmelo 2012 to Rose 2011?
Can you atleast mention the top 5 components?
Dude like he said, he can't reveal the formula.
Just deal with it
tamaraw08
05-17-2016, 08:27 PM
Dude like he said, he can't reveal the formula.
Just deal with it
Ok but i have other questions too and gauge how credible is this.
Is carmelo better than prime Rose? Was Stephs year a fluke? Who was better pau or KG?
DingDengDong
05-18-2016, 08:52 AM
Great game from both LeBron and Kyrie last night. Here are their ISEA
DingDengDong
05-18-2016, 09:04 AM
Dude, I am not upset, but more confused on how Steph's best is better than Shaq's, was it a freak accident? How was Steph's 2 or 3 years ago, ?
I want to compare KG 2003 vs Pau 2006-07,
How About Carmelo 2012 to Rose 2011?
Can you atleast mention the top 5 components?
Curry was absolutely amazing this year. His 3s really upped the efficiency, and Shaq's hurts his. If you look at Shaq's career ISEA
DingDengDong
05-18-2016, 09:07 AM
Oh, here are some past Curry years:
2015: 0.739
2014: 0.690
2013: 0.608
Pretty amazing how much he improved from last year to this year, and had steadily improved year after year before that.
DingDengDong
05-19-2016, 09:12 AM
ISEA
Im Still Ballin
05-19-2016, 09:16 AM
I'm proud to announce that this piece of work has been added to the InsideHoops Compendium
Welcome to the big leagues brother!
DingDengDong
05-19-2016, 09:25 AM
I'm proud to announce that this piece of work has been added to the InsideHoops Compendium
Welcome to the big leagues brother!
:cheers:
tmacattack33
05-19-2016, 10:43 AM
This stat is just taking your total points scored (and multiplying that by some factor) and then multiplying that by your efficiency.
So it's a combo of ppg and TS%.
Not a bad way to do it.
Born Sinner
05-19-2016, 10:58 AM
Virgin :lol
DingDengDong
05-19-2016, 11:27 AM
Got curious about LeBron's worst Finals performances.
2007: 0.335
2011: 0.460
I'm a little surprised that 2011 was better than 2007.
Klay 3D
05-19-2016, 11:39 AM
I see nothing great about it. Just a bunch of numbers with nothing to back it up.
MJ 10.23
Curry 7.00
Kobe 6.71
Wade 5.94
Shaq 5.92
Lebron 4.80
Westbrook 4.03
Wilt 4.01
You 0.01
(Better than PER)
DingDengDong
05-19-2016, 11:42 AM
I see nothing great about it. Just a bunch of numbers with nothing to back it up.
MJ 10.23
Curry 7.00
Kobe 6.71
Wade 5.94
Shaq 5.92
Lebron 4.80
Westbrook 4.03
Wilt 4.01
You 0.01
(Better than PER)
Clearly you saw a comparison you didn't like. Which one was it? The numbers are non-bias and are not made up. They accurately reflect performance. tmacattack33 generally gets it.
Klay 3D
05-19-2016, 12:13 PM
Clearly you saw a comparison you didn't like. Which one was it? The numbers are non-bias and are not made up. They accurately reflect performance. tmacattack33 generally gets it.
Don't really care tbh. Just saying it holds no merit with no backing. It's like putting a simple 1-10 rating on a game and it'll somewhat accurately determine the quality of the performance(s). I'm going to call this ISHR
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