I can't believe this is a conference finals series...

[stalkerforlife]

The cowardly colluding absolutely ruined the east.

How the hell does the NBA block the Paul trade, yet allow this BS to happen?

No conference finals should ever be this meaningless, this predictable, this cowardly, and this pathetic. It just shouldn't happen.

This sure as hell isn't an accomplishment for Bran or the city of CLeaveland.

This cowardly ass colluding has ruined an entire conference for 6 straight seasons.

[warriorfan]

awful basketball

I partially agree with chuck about the watered down nature of the NBA

but it's as plain to see that it's the Eastern Conference which has the problem, not the Western

[Nilocon165]

A whole house full of dreams and steps I think you'd be impressed with the pieces I kept You disappeared but the history is still here It's why I try not to cry over spilt beer I can't even get mad that you're gone Leavin' me was probably the best thing you ever taught me I'm sorry, it's official I was a fist-full, I didn't keep it simple Chip on the shoulder, anger in my veins Had so much hatred, now it brings me shame Never thought about the world without you And I promise that I'll never say another bad word about you

[stalkerforlife]

awful basketball

I partially agree with chuck about the watered down nature of the NBA

but it's as plain to see that it's the Eastern Conference which has the problem, not the Western

It's one man's cowardice and lack of any competitive drive.

Real ass GOATS want to beat the best...not f ucking join them.

[stalkerforlife]

A whole house full of dreams and steps I think you'd be impressed with the pieces I kept You disappeared but the history is still here It's why I try not to cry over spilt beer I can't even get mad that you're gone Leavin' me was probably the best thing you ever taught me I'm sorry, it's official I was a fist-full, I didn't keep it simple Chip on the shoulder, anger in my veins Had so much hatred, now it brings me shame Never thought about the world without you And I promise that I'll never say another bad word about you

Thank you.

[Real14]

:oldlol: op right once again

[KingPush]

OP has 2 kids and is still a virgin

[Nilocon165]

Thank you.
Sharp like an edge of a samurai sword, the mental blade cut through flesh and bone, though my mind's at peace, the world out of order, missing the inner heat, life gets colder, oh yes, I have to find my path, no less, walk on earth, water and fire, the elements compose a magnum opus, my modus operandi is amalgam steel packed tight in micro, chip on my armor a sign of all-pro, the ultimate reward is honor not awards, at odds with the times in wars with no lords, a freelancer, a battle cry of a hawk make a dove fly and a tear dry, wonder why a lone wolf don't run with a clan, only trust your instincts and be one with the plan, some days, some nights, some live, some die, in the way of the samurai, some fight, some bleed, sun up to sun down, the sons of a battle cry, some days, some nights, some live, some die, in the name of the samurai, some fight, some bleed, sun up to sun down, the sons of a battle cry, a battle cry

[stalkerforlife]

OP has 2 kids and is still a virgin

I may be the biggest loser on planet earth, but at least I don't fear competition.

I would rather lose my ass off on the court than stack a team to the brim and gloat as if I accomplished something.

[Nick Young]

It's pathetic. You should make a video about it.

The Raptors are a 2 seed. The Leastern conference is a joke.

[oh the horror]

Real talk though, the level of competition in the east is embarrassing. It's literally ONLY the Cavs.

[oh the horror]

It's pathetic. You should make a video about it.

The Raptors are a 2 seed. The Leastern conference is a joke.



Are the Raps really the two seed? Jesus Christ

[Blue&Orange]

embarassing is hearing those morons at espn praising Lebrons playoffs numbers live while the proof of how shitty east is once again on display.

[scuzzy]

Every poster in this thread is a Laker fan


PA


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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

I may be the biggest loser on planet earth, but at least I don't fear competition.

I would rather lose my ass off on the court than stack a team to the brim and gloat as if I accomplished something.
Kobe had malone, Gasol, PAyton, Nash, MWP, SHAQ, Phil Jackson

I think yo ushould shut the fvck up now if you wanna talk about collusion.
The man had one foot out on his way to Chicago, everybody knows that. If you wanna talk about abandoning ship.

You and the rest of your idiotic crew are a bunch of well duuuuuuh IDIOTS :cheers:

[plowking]

Same people complaining about the same shit.

The Warriors just played the Rockets and Blazers. :oldlol:

[stalkerforlife]

embarassing is hearing those morons at espn praising Lebrons playoffs numbers live while the proof of how shitty east is once again on display.

The propaganda surrounding his career is sad.

I love this game, but ESPN, other media outlets, and Bran's cowardly colluding has ruined it.

Such a fraudulent player and legacy.

[coin24]

So the cavs will just cruise through 12-0..:rolleyes:

What a piss poor ecf

[Nuff Said]

I may be the biggest loser on planet earth, but at least I don't fear competition.

I would rather lose my ass off on the court than stack a team to the brim and gloat as if I accomplished something.
So if Chris Paul wanted to play with you you'd be like "nah bruh that's stacking the deck. I'm good?"

[stalkerforlife]

Same people complaining about the same shit.

The Warriors just played the Rockets and Blazers. :oldlol:

ONLY because the Clippers had shocking injuries.

Who are they playing now?

Just stop, dude. Be a man. Admit the truth.

[sportjames23]

It's one man's cowardice and lack of any competitive drive.

Real ass GOATS want to beat the best...not f ucking join them.

Real talk.

[tpols]

its kind of ruining basketball for me ..

shit, if they used a 16 team format we wouldve had spurs-cavs, thunder-warriors super final four.

Theres like one or two good ball games on per week now. its sad.

[jimmy77x]

Same people complaining about the same shit.

The Warriors just played the Rockets and Blazers. :oldlol:

And still more competitive than the horse sh!t the cavs have faced. This isnt good for basketball. The only people this sh!t fest pleases is espn and the bran cult.

[stalkerforlife]

So if Chris Paul wanted to play with you you'd be like "nah bruh that's stacking the deck. I'm good?"

I don't understand that analogy.

Are you trying to be clever?

[coin24]

Same people complaining about the same shit.

The Warriors just played the Rockets and Blazers. :oldlol:

Come on, the Blazers were competitive, and now OKC vs warriors is off to a great start..

Pistons and cawks were pathetic. Craptors are just as bad :facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

its kind of ruining basketball for me ..

shit, if they used a 16 team format we wouldve had spurs-cavs, thunder-warriors super final four.

Theres like one or two good ball games on per week now. its sad.

Definitely agree with scrapping the conferences and putting the best 16 in.

[bigkingsfan]

When they crush OKC in the finals, people will be : stacked.

[k0kakw0rld]

I don't understand that analogy.

Are you trying to be clever?
He asked you a simple question... :confusedshrug:

[stalkerforlife]

He asked you a simple question... :confusedshrug:

Why the hell would Chris Paul be playing basketball anywhere near where I would play?

Context is key.

If he's trying to be clever by saying Paul and Kobe would be stacked, that's not a good comparison because Kobe was getting older and the west is a real ass bloodbath.

[warriorfan]

So if Chris Paul wanted to play with you you'd be like "nah bruh that's stacking the deck. I'm good?"

chris paul would do that on top of murder his first born son to stack his deck as much as possible, lord knows he needs it and is getting desperate as a mother f uccer to get in those conference finals

a player like Curry or Kobe would def say "nah, im good". they dont play that colluding shit

[Nilocon165]

I don't even like basketball.

[stalkerforlife]

I don't even like basketball.

Very few Bransvestites do.

They just love trolling...like ESPN, the media, and their hero.

[NZStreetBaller]

The funny thing is no matter who cavs play they wouldve destroyed. The east is more a joke now than its ever been in the past 7 years. Atleast back in the heat days pacers where relatively good. There is just no decent teams in the east right now.

[Nilocon165]

Very few Bransvestites do.

They just love trolling...like ESPN, the media, and their hero.
:kobe: you calling me a branvestite?

[LAZERUSS]

chris paul would do that on top of murder his first born son to stack his deck as much as possible, lord knows he needs it and is getting desperate as a mother f uccer to get in those conference finals

a player like Curry or Kobe would def say "nah, im good". they dont play that colluding shit

You have wonder if he would have said "I'm good", if the Warriors had not added a TON of talent to the 25-55 team that he carried in his rookie season.

Let's get real here...the Warriors are a 60+ win team without him, and in fact, have played considerably better in the post-season without him.

Put him on the Lakers, and they would have won 10 games.

[stalkerforlife]

:kobe: you calling me a branvestite?

You may be a real Cavs fan, but you'd disown them once Bran came back if you had any integrity.

I do respect that you admit that Kobe's better, though.

[Nilocon165]

You may be a real Cavs fan, but you'd disown them once Bran came back if you had any integrity.

I do respect that you admit that Kobe's better, though.
To be honest, I kinda enjoyed the time when they sucked better. Less pressure and the games where Kyrie went off were pretty fun

[sixer6ad]

I may be the biggest loser on planet earth, but at least I don't fear competition.

I would rather lose my ass off on the court than stack a team to the brim and gloat as if I accomplished something.

So when a team dominates another team, the losing team automatically sucks? Who's your team? When they shoot 67% and dominate a team, do they ever just play well? Do they ever get on an insane roll and make other teams look foolish?

Shut up and stop playing shock jock. Leave the board so that the adults can talk basketball.

[stalkerforlife]

To be honest, I kinda enjoyed the time when they sucked better.

:applause:

Because they were real. And they would've eventually gotten it together organically. Success would've meant something.

Bran completely shit on the team and the city when he left; cheering for him must be really bittersweet for true fans of the team.

[Nilocon165]

:applause:

Because they were real. And they would've eventually gotten it together organically. Success would've meant something.

Bran completely shit on the team and the city when he left; cheering for him must be really bittersweet for true fans of the team.
nah

[sixer6ad]

The propaganda surrounding his career is sad.

I love this game, but ESPN, other media outlets, and Bran's cowardly colluding has ruined it.

Such a fraudulent player and legacy.

Did you see the players he joined in Playoff points and assists tonight?

The bigger thing would be to step aside and write, "You know...he's really a top 5 player ever, and I need to just stop being a whiny little bitch".

[stalkerforlife]

So when a team dominates another team, the losing team automatically sucks? Who's your team? When they shoot 67% and dominate a team, do they ever just play well? Do they ever get on an insane roll and make other teams look foolish?

Shut up and stop playing shock jock. Leave the board so that the adults can talk basketball.

This has nothing to do with what's actually being discussed.

This is not a hot streak. This is not one game. This is not one series. This is an entire eastern conference playoffs that are ruined due to cowardly colluding.

You make no sense.

[Nilocon165]

I find it cool that the first nba game I attended was the cavs and warriors the year before lebron came back.

Kyrie hit the game tying 3

Curry sealed it with big shots in OT

Those were the times.

In a way I kinda wish lebron was still on the heat

[plowking]

Come on, the Blazers were competitive, and now OKC vs warriors is off to a great start..

Pistons and cawks were pathetic. Craptors are just as bad :facepalm

The Raptors won one more game than the Thunder. I don't think they're a better team than OKC, but they are a good one.

If Bron was playing OKC now in the conference finals, people would be saying that he regularly shits on Durant and its another easy finals for him.

Some of you just need to watch basketball and enjoy it for what it is. Bron will never be good enough for some of you, and that is fine. We don't give a f*ck enough to have you comment on it every series. stalkerforlife is literally that. A Lebron stalker. Every damn game there is a thread about how stacked the Cavs are. Sticky a thread and talk about it in there. We don't need a new one every time.

I mean the dude beat a 60 win team last year, and some of you were still complaining. :oldlol:

[stalkerforlife]

I find it cool that the first nba game I attended was the cavs and warriors the year before lebron came back.

Kyrie hit the game tying 3

Curry sealed it with big shots in OT

Those were the times.

In a way I kinda wish lebron was still on the heat

Deep down you must know a title will be meaningless for this team.

A playoff appearance without Bran would mean more than a title with all the stacking and collusion.

You are a real ass team fan.

[Born Sinner]

OP has 2 kids and is still a virgin
:oldlol:

[plowking]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:

[sixer6ad]

This has nothing to do with what's actually being discussed.

This is not a hot streak. This is not one game. This is not one series. This is an entire eastern conference playoffs that are ruined due to cowardly colluding.

You make no sense.

I'm talking about the domination. They are amazingly hot right now, shooting at a record pace. If they shot this well in an empty gym, it would be impressive. You're so blinded by hatred that you've lost the ability to make any comments that are basketball specific.

Their ball movement right now? Their help and recover defense? Reading the passing lanes?

Can you talk anything relating to basketball or is this all about hatred for a person?

People dismiss your comments on here; they don't even matter. That should tell you all you need to know.

[Nilocon165]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:
Wow. The laker fam just got murdered.

[stalkerforlife]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:

I don't give a shit about the Lakers.

Do you ever know what you're talking about? Or do you just spew bullshit and hope it sticks?

[sixer6ad]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:

Plowking on fire.

[JT123]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:
Slayed

[stalkerforlife]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:

And you have no idea what you're talking about because the Lakers didn't beat the Nets twice for titles.

:facepalm

Just stop.

[DingDengDong]

A rare time in which I agree with this OP.

[sixer6ad]

And you have no idea what you're talking about because the Lakers didn't beat the Nets twice for titles.

:facepalm

Just stop.

The emoji scramble...

Famous when you've lost.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It just cracks me up a Lakers fan actually makes these threads. It is like you forgot the teams you beat to win titles in the early 2000's.

Sixers, Nets and Nets... That is possibly the worst 3 teams you could beat in the finals. :oldlol:
Then you lost to the Pistons, who aren't anywhere close to a great finals team. :oldlol:

Then you got to play the Orlando Magic in 09. :oldlol:
Then you play the 49 win Celtics in 10. :oldlol:


Pretty sure this thread is about the path to the finals

From 00-02 all but two team that the Lakers played in the western conference playoffs won 50+ games, including multiple 58+ win teams

In 08/10 every team in the western conference playoffs won 50+ games.

Big difference between playing one mediocre team and playing three mediocre teams on you way to a title.

And by clowning on the east teams who made the finals in 09 & 10 you're just proving ops point, if those teams were the best teams in the conference then imagine how bad the rest of the east was.

Just a dumb post all around

[plowking]

And you have no idea what you're talking about because the Lakers didn't beat the Nets twice for titles.

:facepalm

Just stop.

My bad. It was the Pacers led by Reggie Miller that got it started. It was the Spurs that beat the Nets again.

You beat an even worse team than the Nets. One where Reggie Miller was the leading scorer on the team with 18ppg. :oldlol:
They took 2 games off you as well. :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

Dudes arguing with the OP like they don't see how ridiculous this ECF matchup is. We are seeing it right now. Just admit the shit that everyone out there is saying. You guys have no argument here to be won. So you jump other to other shit like talking trash about other fanbases, and various other BS to deflect because deep down you know this is truth.



Face is dudes the proof is right here. Toronto being in the ECF is hilarious. The CAVS are that caliber of team but they've cake walked two years in a row. Even the Heat with Bron had more competition than this shit

[plowking]

Pretty sure this thread is about the path to the finals

From 00-02 all but two team that the Lakers played in the western conference playoffs won 50+ games, including multiple 58+ win teams

In 08/10 every team in the western conference playoffs won 50+ games.

Big difference between playing one mediocre team and playing three mediocre teams

We've gone through this as well.

The Lakers went to 7 against the Rockets, who were a 50+ win team. The difference though? McGrady was injured, and Yao didn't play after game 4.
Same with the Jazz one of those years. Injuries.

There were a bunch of other teams who had key injuries.

Records are great if you want to ignore context.

[sixer6ad]

Dudes arguing with the OP like they don't see how ridiculous this ECF matchup is. We are seeing it right now. Just admit the shit that everyone out there is saying. You guys have no argument here to be won. So you jump other to other shit like talking trash about other fanbases, and various other BS to deflect because deep down you know this is truth.



Face is dudes the proof is right here. Toronto being in the ECF is hilarious. The CAVS are that caliber of team but they've cake walked two years in a row. Even the Heat with Bron had more competition than this shit

Nobody has this argument when your team is the one who not only is good, but is playing on all cylinders. Because the media does rely on LBJ so much, it's never about how good he is, how well we are playing, how hard we work defensively, how motivated we are, etc.; it's always about the other team sucking.

The Spurs dominate.
The Warriors dominate.
The Lakers dominated.
The Celtics dominated.
The Pistons dominated.

Any team that Lebron plays on plays against weak competition. The argument is old and overused. People get sick of it, so they attack the people who go there.

[TheMarkMadsen]

We've gone through this as well.

The Lakers went to 7 against the Rockets, who were a 50+ win team. The difference though? McGrady was injured, and Yao didn't play after game 4.
Same with the Jazz one of those years. Injuries.

There were a bunch of other teams who had key injuries.

Records are great if you want to ignore context.


So you're just going to completely ignore 00-02 when that was the first thing you brought up in that post :oldlol:

And about the rockets.. Ok? That's one series compared to the past 6 years of an absolute joke of a conference :rolleyes:

[coin24]

We've gone through this as well.

The Lakers went to 7 against the Rockets, who were a 50+ win team. The difference though? McGrady was injured, and Yao didn't play after game 4.
Same with the Jazz one of those years. Injuries.

There were a bunch of other teams who had key injuries.

Records are great if you want to ignore context.


Why are you defending the disgraceful east playoffs this season?
Bran slurping aside it's blatantly obvious the cavs will half assed go 12-0..
How can anyone apart form like the 5 true cavs fans enjoy this shit show ?

[stalkerforlife]

Nobody has this argument when your team is the one who not only is good, but is playing on all cylinders. Because the media does rely on LBJ so much, it's never about how good he is, how well we are playing, how hard we work defensively, how motivated we are, etc.; it's always about the other team sucking.

The Spurs dominate.
The Warriors dominate.
The Lakers dominated.
The Celtics dominated.
The Pistons dominated.

Any team that Lebron plays on plays against weak competition. The argument is old and overused. People get sick of it, so they attack the people who go there.

You can't handle the truth.

And the truth is...this shit is meaningless because of the cowardly colluding.

Absolutely meaningless.

[plowking]

This thread is clearly about Lebron. Yet him beating a 50 win team, and then a 60 win team before the finals last year, all while dealing with injuries isn't impressive.

If Bron beats a 50 win team, they suck. If someone on the West does it, impressive.

You guys are just batshit insane. No reasoning with that.

[plowking]

Why are you defending the disgraceful east playoffs this season?
Bran slurping aside it's blatantly obvious the cavs will half assed go 12-0..
How can anyone apart form like the 5 true cavs fans enjoy this shit show ?

And the West has been better?

Warriors vs OKC is the first good series so far. OKC vs Spurs were garbage.

If Atlanta were a "shitty" 60 win team, then so are the Spurs. :oldlol:

[nba_55]

This thread is clearly about Lebron. Yet him beating a 50 win team, and then a 60 win team before the finals last year, all while dealing with injuries isn't impressive.

If Bron beats a 50 win team, they suck. If someone on the West does it, impressive.

You guys are just batshit insane. No reasoning with that.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[sixer6ad]

You can't handle the truth.

And the truth is...this shit is meaningless because of the cowardly colluding.

Absolutely meaningless.

Powerful...

Very strong post.

[plowking]

Someone just posted in another thread that this Cavs team is 1-5 without Bron this year, and 4-15 without him over the time he has been there since coming back from Miami.

Clearly he is just getting carried by a bunch of superstars, and this loaded team would be winning either way.

[Nilocon165]

Plowking wins

[sixer6ad]

You can't handle the truth.

And the truth is...this shit is meaningless because of the cowardly colluding.

Absolutely meaningless.

All time scoring in Playoffs:

Jordan
Jabaar
Bryant
O'Neal
James

All time assists in playoffs:

Johnson
Stockton
Kidd
James

One name on both lists. It's called greatness, and people want to play with greatness. They flock to greatness and they play hard for greatness. They are not afraid to dominate and step on people's necks for greatness. Players go beyond their ability for greatness.

It's not collusion. It's greatness.

[scuzzy]

Plowking just slayed the kobe/curry fam with ease :cheers: :lol

[Im Still Ballin]

PlowKing goingIn NoLube

[oh the horror]

Plowking just slayed the kobe/curry fam with ease :cheers: :lol




You kids really think this shit is about that huh? Kobe is retired kiddos. Move on.

And I don't bother talking to plowking. He's the cat in a group that fires off and people just sort of nod because they all know he doesn't know wtf he's talking about.


This dude is all over the place. Next he'll be talking about astral projection to try to highlight a point contrary to which is merely this conference is ass.

[JT123]

Plowking just slayed the kobe/curry fam with ease :cheers: :lol
:oldlol: The Kobetards stopped responding and abandoned the thread. :rockon:

[NBAGOAT]

Dudes arguing with the OP like they don't see how ridiculous this ECF matchup is. We are seeing it right now. Just admit the shit that everyone out there is saying. You guys have no argument here to be won. So you jump other to other shit like talking trash about other fanbases, and various other BS to deflect because deep down you know this is truth.



Face is dudes the proof is right here. Toronto being in the ECF is hilarious. The CAVS are that caliber of team but they've cake walked two years in a row. Even the Heat with Bron had more competition than this shit

it's their 1st year contending so it's not surprising they're choking in the playoffs. They've been lucky enough to get easy opponents who've been injured however so they've managed to win(kind of like gs last year vs the cavs). This shit happens way more often than people think. Good teams in regular season play bad in the playoffs or a series because it's their 1st year contending. OKC in 2011 got beat 4-1 by the Mavs, Suns got beat 4-1 by the spurs in 05 even though they had their best core, Pistons got swept by the Nets in 03 etc.

[Bankaii]

The Warriors faced a James Harden led, injured Rockets team in the WCF.
Where was you shit posting then?

[Rocketswin2013]

i thought it was about w/l totals.

even though that was the ken griff logic

[plowking]

You kids really think this shit is about that huh? Kobe is retired kiddos. Move on.

And I don't bother talking to plowking. He's the cat in a group that fires off and people just sort of nod because they all know he doesn't know wtf he's talking about.


This dude is all over the place. Next he'll be talking about astral projection to try to highlight a point contrary to which is merely this conference is ass.


You're a 30 something year old man getting emotional about basketball. Actually let me rephrase... You're a 30 something year old man getting emotional about a particular basketballer.

I couldn't give a damn who wins either way.

You're out here spouting off, and caring way too much about irrelevant shit.

[Lebron23]

I hope the Op doesn't kill himself if the Cavs win the NBA title.

[DaSeba5]

That's just how the NBA is. It's always been like this. You have like 3-4 teams that compete for a title and everyone else competes to see how far they get until they lose to one of those 4 teams. The NBA can be really hard to get into unless you are a fan of one of those teams. I applaud fans who stick with the bad teams every year. Even if your bad team ever gets good they will probably still be a first or second round exit to a stacked team. The NBA has always been top heavy. It was fun being one of those teams for a couple of years though. The NBA doesn't care about parity. They make too much money off super stars and stacked teams dominating. People tune in to watch them lose.

[stalkerforlife]

You kids really think this shit is about that huh? Kobe is retired kiddos. Move on.

And I don't bother talking to plowking. He's the cat in a group that fires off and people just sort of nod because they all know he doesn't know wtf he's talking about.


This dude is all over the place. Next he'll be talking about astral projection to try to highlight a point contrary to which is merely this conference is ass.

:lol

Dude is all over the place and is wrong so often. I stopped bothering when I noticed how bad it was.

I don't think he's all there. Or he's just a huge troll.

[Smook A.]

:oldlol: I'm not even gonna bother watching the rest of the series. My eyes are only focused on Thunder vs Warriors atm.

[stalkerforlife]

That's just how the NBA is. It's always been like this. You have like 3-4 teams that compete for a title and everyone else competes to see how far they get until they lose to one of those 4 teams. The NBA can be really hard to get into unless you are a fan of one of those teams. I applaud fans who stick with the bad teams every year. Even if your bad team ever gets good they will probably still be a first or second round exit to a stacked team. The NBA has always been top heavy. It was fun being one of those teams for a couple of years though. The NBA doesn't care about parity. They make too much money off super stars and stacked teams dominating. People tune in to watch them lose.

That's a damn lie.

It's never been this bad in a conference. The drop off from the first to second best team in the east is the most drastic I have ever witnessed.

[stalkerforlife]

:oldlol: I'm not even gonna bother watching the rest of the series. My eyes are only focused on Thunder vs Warriors atm.

I only watched as long as I did because my GF is on her period and I didn't want to be in the same room as her, so I just put it on and browsed the internet in the living room.

[DaSeba5]

That's a damn lie.

It's never been this bad in a conference. The drop off from the first to second best team in the east is the most drastic I have ever witnessed.

It's not a lie at all. The NBA has always had teams like this. I mean yah the East may be the weakest it's ever been, but you have two franchises alone that have more titles than everybody combined. The NBA has always had stacked teams and super stars who dominate.

[tpols]

Dudes arguing with the OP like they don't see how ridiculous this ECF matchup is. We are seeing it right now. Just admit the shit that everyone out there is saying. You guys have no argument here to be won. So you jump other to other shit like talking trash about other fanbases, and various other BS to deflect because deep down you know this is truth.



Face is dudes the proof is right here. Toronto being in the ECF is hilarious. The CAVS are that caliber of team but they've cake walked two years in a row. Even the Heat with Bron had more competition than this shit


they could literally field the Flint Michigan Tropics in the ECF's.


http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/84771/will-ferrell-and-flint-tropics-jackie-moon-basketball-uniform-gallery.jpg


and plowking would be talkin how theyre a great team, and the cavs are just making them look bad lol

[NBAGOAT]

That's a damn lie.

It's never been this bad in a conference. The drop off from the first to second best team in the east is the most drastic I have ever witnessed.

technically speaking the biggest dropoff would be in the 01 West. When you beat the 2nd best team in the conference by an average of 20 points in a series that's a huge dropoff.

[Dictator]

That's just how the NBA is. It's always been like this. You have like 3-4 teams that compete for a title and everyone else competes to see how far they get until they lose to one of those 4 teams. The NBA can be really hard to get into unless you are a fan of one of those teams. I applaud fans who stick with the bad teams every year. Even if your bad team ever gets good they will probably still be a first or second round exit to a stacked team. The NBA has always been top heavy. It was fun being one of those teams for a couple of years though. The NBA doesn't care about parity. They make too much money off super stars and stacked teams dominating. People tune in to watch them lose.

No. There was time when almost every team had one legit superstar surrounded by role players. Only super team in recent history before all the collusions was the big 3 celtics.

[DaSeba5]

No. There was time when almost every team had one legit superstar surrounded by role players. Only super team in recent history before all the collusions was the big 3 celtics.

The point is the league has always been dominated by super stars and stacked teams. I don't necessarily mean every team had a big 3 of super stars in their primes like the Cavs. There's always going to be good teams and good series, but there's always going to be a couple of teams above everyone else in the league.

[stalkerforlife]

technically speaking the biggest dropoff would be in the 01 West. When you beat the 2nd best team in the conference by an average of 20 points in a series that's a huge dropoff.

3 of the 4 games against the Kings were determined by 6 points or less.

And don't ever compare the cowardly colluding in a far weaker conference by the Cavs to the Lakers organically turning into a great team. (No one had any idea Kobe would blow up like he did)

[DaSeba5]

I'm not trying to defend the Cavs or anything. I hate the East is weak as shit just as much everyone else. It's a disgrace to basketball that this is the Final 4 of the NBA. It's not even watchable.

[CAstill]

Plowking is a horrible poster. Don't bring up the 3peat Lakers when they had to beat the kings and spurs just to get to the finals. The later Lakers beat quality teams too, including a red hot phoenix team that always gets underrated. Plus that rockets team you tried picking apart was actually better without tmac. Yao getting injured is part of the game just like the Lakers having injuries as well.

[warriorfan]

The Warriors faced a James Harden led, injured Rockets team in the WCF.
Where was you shit posting then?

Harden and Dwight Howard > DeMar DeroZan and Kyle Lowry

[NBAGOAT]

3 of the 4 games against the Kings were determined by 6 points or less.

And don't ever compare the cowardly colluding in a far weaker conference by the Cavs to the Lakers organically turning into a great team. (No one had any idea Kobe would blow up like he did)

I never compared the conferences. You just asked for biggest dropoff. 2 of the games vs the Pistons were within 6 too your point?

[Young X]

That's just how the NBA is. It's always been like this. You have like 3-4 teams that compete for a title and everyone else competes to see how far they get until they lose to one of those 4 teams. The NBA can be really hard to get into unless you are a fan of one of those teams. I applaud fans who stick with the bad teams every year. Even if your bad team ever gets good they will probably still be a first or second round exit to a stacked team. The NBA has always been top heavy. It was fun being one of those teams for a couple of years though. The NBA doesn't care about parity. They make too much money off super stars and stacked teams dominating. People tune in to watch them lose.This year has been worse than usual though.

The teams outside of those 3-4 are weak in BOTH conferences.

Normally it was just the east but the 2nd tier teams in the west were weak too this season.

I think this is one of the worst years (in terms of number of good teams) in a long time. I'm not hating but I'm starting to think the Warriors and Spurs records were inflated a little.

I've never been this disinterested watching the playoffs, luckily we still have OKC battling these great teams.

[DaSeba5]

This year has been worse than usual though.

The teams outside of those 3-4 are weak in BOTH conferences.

Normally it was just the east but the 2nd tier teams in the west were weak too this season.

I think this is one of the worst years (in terms of number of good teams) in a long time. I'm not hating but I'm starting to think the Warriors and Spurs records were inflated a little.

I've never been this disinterested watching the playoffs, luckily we still have OKC battling these great teams.

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely agree with you. This was one of the worst seasons in a long time. It's not fun to me seeing a team win 73 games, another team get to nearly 70, and another team win a conference without breaking a sweat. This may be the most unwatchable season in NBA history or it's at least up there. Literally nobody had chance outside of 3 teams with maybe OKC and a healthy Clippers team putting up a fight.

[NBAGOAT]

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely agree with you. This was one of the worst seasons in a long time. It's not fun to me seeing a team win 73 games, another team get to nearly 70, and another team win a conference without breaking a sweat. This may be the most unwatchable season in NBA history or it's at least up there. Literally nobody had chance outside of 3 teams with maybe OKC and a healthy Clippers team putting up a fight.

clippers getting injured kind of ruined things this year. If you have 4 great teams in a conference, the last 2 rounds of the playoffs can still be pretty exciting but not the case with 3. Lots of teams that looked good on paper disappointed this year too; specifically Houston, Memphis, and Chicago. It'll get better next year; Warriors won't win 70+ and Spurs won't 65+ and there'll be more parity.

[plowking]

they could literally field the Flint Michigan Tropics in the ECF's.


and plowking would be talkin how theyre a great team, and the cavs are just making them look bad lol

You have to be a decent enough team to make a conference final.

I never said this is one of the best ever, or that the Raptors were some all time great team. They are pretty standard as far as conference finals teams go. A 56 win team, that was quite capable and looked very good throughout the season.

This years playoffs has been one of the worst ever in terms of excitement. From both sides IMO.

The West is having its first good series now, and the East won't have one at all this year. The finals will be the only thing worth watching outside of the Dubs vs OKC.

My point is, people need to stop bitching about LeBron and his lack of competition. This isn't close to being the worst competition ever. Not close. Early 2000's was far worse. Then you have Magic Johsnon who was beating 39 win teams in the conference finals at one point, etc.

It is just a shitty year as far as playoffs go. You can either watch, or not. No point complaining about it, since there is literally no fix for it.

[plowking]

Plowking is a horrible poster. Don't bring up the 3peat Lakers when they had to beat the kings and spurs just to get to the finals. The later Lakers beat quality teams too, including a red hot phoenix team that always gets underrated. Plus that rockets team you tried picking apart was actually better without tmac. Yao getting injured is part of the game just like the Lakers having injuries as well.

I'm a horrible poster, yet idiots like you and OP are the ones constantly moving goal posts.

First it was all about records. Now it is all up to OP's and your discretion as to how good a team really is. People won't be satisfied unless LeBron loses to one of these teams. :oldlol:

LA crushed those teams 3-0 and 4-0 in 2001. How good could they really be if they can't take a game off them? That is the idiotic logic we're dealing with now for Bron... So, why can't the same logic be applied to those teams?

I'm sure the goal posts will be moved once again.

Anyways, not sure why I'm posting so much on the topic, since I don't care. I'll watch the finals and enjoy them either way, regardless of who makes it. The playoffs have been shit so far.

[plowking]

:lol

Dude is all over the place and is wrong so often. I stopped bothering when I noticed how bad it was.

I don't think he's all there. Or he's just a huge troll.

Go meet up with that Orlando Magic poster, or are you still to bitchmade? Hopefully he smacks some sense into you.

[Bankaii]

Harden and Dwight Howard > DeMar DeroZan and Kyle Lowry
James Harden monopolizing the ball while setting record for turnovers and an injured Dwight taking less FGA than Josh fkn Smith

Gtfoh:roll:

[329 Services]

Valunciunas will come back monday hopefully

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The Raptors won one more game than the Thunder. I don't think they're a better team than OKC, but they are a good one.

If Bron was playing OKC now in the conference finals, people would be saying that he regularly shits on Durant and its another easy finals for him.

Some of you just need to watch basketball and enjoy it for what it is. Bron will never be good enough for some of you, and that is fine. We don't give a f*ck enough to have you comment on it every series. stalkerforlife is literally that. A Lebron stalker. Every damn game there is a thread about how stacked the Cavs are. Sticky a thread and talk about it in there. We don't need a new one every time.

I mean the dude beat a 60 win team last year, and some of you were still complaining. :oldlol:

Nobody gives a damn about whether LeBron is good enough or not, though.

Point is the eastern conference is WEAK as shit.

Toronto would be playoff fodder out West, but instead, we're gonna see them get shellacked by the Cavs...in the ECF. :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

James Harden monopolizing the ball while setting record for turnovers and an injured Dwight taking less FGA than Josh fkn Smith

Gtfoh:roll:

James Harden and Dwight Howard > DeMar DeroZan and Kyle Lowry

Deal with it

[NBAGOAT]

Nobody gives a damn about whether LeBron is good enough or not, though.

Point is the eastern conference is WEAK as shit.

Toronto would be playoff fodder out West, but instead, we're gonna see them get shellacked by the Cavs...in the ECF. :oldlol:

True but that doesn't change the fact that the Raptors were good during the regular season. There's pretty simple explanation for the Raptors playing poorly in the playoffs and it has nothing to do with the East. This is their 1st year of "contending" and the lack of experience is hurting them, it's happened to a lot of better teams too besides the Raptors in the past.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Doesn't help that barely anyone thinks of the Raptors as a true rising team. Mostly due to the fact that Derozan and Lowry aren't considered actual franchise players by many. Then there's this prevailing opinion that stars win you championships in the NBA. ie, you aren't an actual contender without a star. Which, btw, has been proven mostly true.

It's a bit different than OKC a while back with Durant, Westbrook, and maybe Harden looking like they might take the reins with experience. The Raptors are akin to maybe the Grizzlies a few years ago or the Nets after they got JKidd (although they at least had Kidd and, years later, Vince). Yeah they will win 50+ games with this core in the current state of the league. And... No one buys them as anything more than a second round-ish team.

Maybe they're the Pistons pre-Sheed or the Warriors before Steph went from good to ATG. I don't know. But either way they're still missing their Sheed, or this core is at their actual deceptively high ceiling because of the lack of talent in the conference this season.


Also agree about the West. Outside of Golden State, San Antonio, OKC, and maybe the Clippers, there's a significantly large gap. I mean there's always a bit of separation between contenders and just playoff teams. That's why one is a contender. It's that there's a bit more significant gap this season than years past. Look at the Mavs roster and that was a 6th seed...

Basically these super teams (bought and built) make for a fun Finals and possibly CF if they aren't all on one conference. But it's ****ing up the rest of the NBA.

[FKAri]

It's one man's cowardice and lack of any competitive drive.

Real ass GOATS want to beat the best...not f ucking join them.
Love & Kyrie = "the best" :roll: :roll: :roll:

[knicksman]

But but miami big 3 was good for the nba. LOL we are now feeling the effects. The nba has become so boring.

[Keno]

cavs > gsw > raptors > okc. i don't see what the problem is here, ec is clearly better.

[oarabbus]

Imagine if one of OKC, Dubs, or SA were in the East :eek: