View Full Version : I've seen enough, Cavs are the best offense ever and will easily win championship
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-17-2016, 11:33 PM
They're the best offense I've ever seen. They currently have the highest playoff ORTG ever with 127. Lebron, kyrie and love are all top 10 offensive players. Lebron and kyrie top 5. Channing at the 5 is murder one of the best pickandpop and shooting bigs. JR is the best spot up shooter in the league. Delly shooting lights out. Shumpert is their worst shooter on the perimeter and he's shot 47% from 3. The only player in their rotation who can't shoot 3s at an absurd clip is Tristan Thompson whos the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.......there is nothing u can do to them defensively. ATL was a top 3 defense and they made a mockery of them
They didn't even shoot the lights out from 3 this game. They're the most diverse offense ever, dominated the paint, boards. Love is the best inside outside big in the league and statistically one of the best post bigs, kyrie is the best handler and slasher/finisher in NBA and an incredible scorer and shooter. One on one he's a top 5 unguardable player.
And they can play D too. Delly, lebron, Tristan and shump are among the best defenders at their position. When they go small love and kyrie are playing their roles and not liabilities anymore. They had a 92DRTG tonight and so far in playoffs they
They will easily win the title like Lakers did in 82 after getting Riley midseason. Tyron Lue is the next great alltime coach. My ball iq is far too high for u guys. Take my advice dummies this season is over. Can the Cavs threepeat is the next question?
plowking
05-17-2016, 11:36 PM
They play boring iso offense too much for me.
I'd rather watch the Clippers, Spurs or Warriors.
stalkerforlife
05-17-2016, 11:37 PM
I don't see how they don't win the title.
They're too stacked.
cavs are garbage outside of lebron.
NBAGOAT
05-17-2016, 11:38 PM
they could win. There is a good chance their shooting also starts regressing at the worst time however.
Marchesk
05-17-2016, 11:39 PM
I'm taking the team with the top two three point shooters in history.
Or the team with two of the best four players in the game.
SilkkTheShocker
05-17-2016, 11:41 PM
I'm taking the team with the top two three point shooters in history.
Or the team with two of the best four players in the game.
OKC would get swept by CLE.
100grandman
05-17-2016, 11:43 PM
It cracks me up when people title a thread "I've seen enough"
KingPush
05-17-2016, 11:43 PM
OP actually complimenting Lebron? :biggums:
LAZERUSS
05-17-2016, 11:44 PM
They likely won't outscore the Warriors or the Thunder, though.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-17-2016, 11:45 PM
They play boring iso offense too much for me.
I'd rather watch the Clippers, Spurs or Warriors.
This isnt 2012-2014. The ball movement era Spurs offense are dead. If anything they rely more on iso than the Cavs with how much they depend on LMA and Kawhi. and Im taking post Channing/Tyron Cavs not whole season into account which skews and underrates their O with Blatt and before they started playing small and pushing the pace alot more.
GS is up there overall but they dont have as many talented offensive players as Cleveland and their offense isnt as dynamic. Cavs can dominate u in more ways.
Healthy Clippers maybe but we dont know how that really looks yet..........
plowking
05-17-2016, 11:50 PM
This isnt 2012-2014. The ball movement era Spurs offense are dead. If anything they rely more on iso than the Cavs with how much they depend on LMA and Kawhi. and Im taking post Channing/Tyron Cavs not whole season into account which skews and underrates their O with Blatt and before they started playing small and pushing the pace alot more.
GS is up there overall but they dont have as many talented offensive players as Cleveland and their offense isnt as dynamic. Cavs can dominate u in more ways.
Healthy Clippers maybe but we dont know how that really looks yet..........
I think its the exact opposite. But to each their own. I don't really watch Cavs games since I find them boring. But I'll watch the other teams. I find their offense a lot more varied.
SilkkTheShocker
05-17-2016, 11:51 PM
They likely won't outscore the Warriors or the Thunder, though.
Not sure why you say that. okc's offense For all their explosion gets clunkier than Cleveland when they go ISO. And Warriors haven't looked all that good this postseason. If you want to give GS the benefit of the doubt. I get it. But OKC doesn't matchup well at all with Cleveland.
Lebronxrings
05-17-2016, 11:55 PM
i really think cavs can win it all this year
LAZERUSS
05-17-2016, 11:55 PM
Not sure why you say that. okc's offense For all their explosion gets clunkier than Cleveland when they go ISO. And Warriors haven't looked all that good this postseason. If you want to give GS the benefit of the doubt. I get it. But OKC doesn't matchup well at all with Cleveland.
I have seen too much of JR Smith, Dellavedova, and Shumpert's career to believe that those guys will shoot worth a damn in the Finals.
And to be honest, Lebron's career Finals FG% is pretty poor, as well. Remove his '14 Finals, when his shooting had zero impact in the largest blowout in Finals history, and it has not been very good.
And, if they face the Warriors, and their DEFENSE, that 127 rating fall off of a cliff.
jstern
05-17-2016, 11:57 PM
They play boring iso offense too much for me.
I'd rather watch the Clippers, Spurs or Warriors.
I found this post funny. Because everything is like a dig on the 90s, and how you think it's so much better and exciting in this era. Like it revolves around that whole topic. Yet you have a Mike Tyson's Punch Out avatar. It's funny. Kind of like 3Ball's name is 3Ball, and he's always talking about against this 3 point shooting era.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-17-2016, 11:58 PM
I have seen too much of JR Smith, Dellavedova, and Shumpert's career to believe that those guys will shoot worth a damn in the Finals.
And to be honest, Lebron's career Finals FG% is pretty poor, as well. Remove his '14 Finals, when his shooting had zero impact in the largest blowout in Finals history, and it has not been very good.
And, if they face the Warriors, and their DEFENSE, that 127 rating fall off of a cliff.
The Hawks were a better defense than GS this season and Cavs had a 124 ORTG against them. Hawks were #2 defense. GS isnt the same defensively as last season theyre relying more on offense
JR is money and will produce in the finals as will Delly. Shump might not shoot consistently but he will play incredible perimeter D.
Looking forward to bumping this after the finals and showing u shooting stats for those players fool:oldlol: :oldlol:
LAZERUSS
05-18-2016, 12:02 AM
The Hawks were a better defense than GS this season and Cavs had a 124 ORTG against them. Hawks were #2 defense. GS isnt the same defensively as last season theyre relying more on offense
JR is money and will produce in the finals as will Delly. Shump might not shoot consistently but he will play incredible perimeter D.
Looking forward to bumping this after the finals and showing u shooting stats for those players fool:oldlol: :oldlol:
We shall see...
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-18-2016, 12:08 AM
We shall see...
Bookmarked baby boi
LAZERUSS
05-18-2016, 12:10 AM
The Hawks were a better defense than GS this season and Cavs had a 124 ORTG against them. Hawks were #2 defense. GS isnt the same defensively as last season theyre relying more on offense
JR is money and will produce in the finals as will Delly. Shump might not shoot consistently but he will play incredible perimeter D.
Looking forward to bumping this after the finals and showing u shooting stats for those players fool:oldlol: :oldlol:
In their two H2H's this season, the Cavs had ORtg's of 103.3 and 86.5, and shot .477 and .316 from the field. And that 103.3 .477 game came in a game in which they trailed after three quarters by a 104-68 margin. And their "big 3" collectively shot 30-89 against them (.337).
The Hawks are NOWHERE NEAR the defensive force that the Warriors have been the last two seasons, and you can take their 2nd ranking and throw it in the trash.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-18-2016, 12:16 AM
In their two H2H's this season, the Cavs had ORtg's of 103.3 and 86.5, and shot .477 and .316 from the field. And that 103.3 .477 game came in a game in which they trailed after three quarters by a 104-68 margin. And their "big 3" collectively shot 30-89 against them.
The Hawks are NOWHERE NEAR the defensive force that the Warriors have been the last two seasons, and you can take their 2nd ranking and throw it in the trash.
Both of the GS/CLE meetings this season were coached by Blatt and pre Chaining Frye. Mozscrub was still getting heavy minutes.............its not the same team ya goof:oldlol: :oldlol:
The Hawks are a better defensive team than the Warriors period. Just look at how much problem they had defended the Trailblazers lol who had a 111 ORTG against them LOL and thats with a negative defender in Stephanie missing most the series
u can take that cherrypicking and lack of context and throw it inada TRASH. This Cavs team far exceeds any offense EVER including SHOWTIME and any prehistoric 50s/60s offense
Gilles Simon
05-18-2016, 12:18 AM
RussellMania is the only thing I can see stopping them.
warriorfan
05-18-2016, 12:20 AM
op also thinks cp3 is better than steph curry so you can take everything he says with a grain of salt :oldlol:
LAZERUSS
05-18-2016, 12:22 AM
Both of the GS/CLE meetings this season were coached by Blatt and pre Chaining Frye. Mozscrub was still getting heavy minutes.............its not the same team ya goof:oldlol: :oldlol:
u can take that cherrypicking and lack of context and throw it inada TRASH. This Cavs team far exceeds any offense EVER including SHOWTIME and any prehistoric 50s/60s offense
:roll: :roll: :roll:
And yet they were nowhere near the Warriors in offense this season...ya goof.
The Warriors outshot their opposition in eFG% by a .563 to .479 margin (just a fraction behind the '71 Bucks, who outshot their's by a .509 to .424 margin.) Meanwhile this prolific offense of the Cavs outshot their's by a .524 to .496 margin.
CavaliersFTW
05-18-2016, 12:23 AM
They play boring iso offense too much for me.
I'd rather watch the Clippers, Spurs or Warriors.
:wtf:
The Cavs this playoffs have been playing awesome ALL AROUND basketball, they aren't iso heavy... they're doing everything, including many plays with ridiculous amounts of swinging and movement off the ball. It's awesome to watch. I suspect you haven't been watching for you to call it boring iso offense.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-18-2016, 12:28 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:
And yet they were nowhere near the Warriors in offense this season...ya goof.
The Warriors outshot their opposition in eFG% by a .563 to .479 margin (just a fraction behind the '71 Bucks, who outshot their's by a .509 to .424 margin.) Meanwhile this prolific offense of the Cavs outshot their's by a .514 to .496 margin.
Whyd u ignore the first part cherrypicker
Using whole RS stats skews the real world results of this team we're seeing now. The RS includes 41 games so half the season where Cavs had defense oriented approach with Blatt. theyve been a completely different club with Tyrron and offense has SKYROCKETTED
For those 40 games with Lue Cavs ORTG under Lue is 113.2 BTW which would be #1 this season and theyve stepped it to another gear in the playoffs like true GOAT offenses do. Since March actually theyve been on a similar level offensively than u seein now in the playoffs:applause:
Lebronxrings
05-18-2016, 12:31 AM
cavs so good even OPs reverse jinx can't stop it. :banana:
LAZERUSS
05-18-2016, 12:34 AM
Whyd u ignore the first part cherrypicker
Using whole RS stats skews the real world results of this team we're seeing now. The RS includes 41 games so half the season where Cavs had defense oriented approach with Blatt. theyve been a completely different club with Tyrron and offense has SKYROCKETTED
For those 40 games with Lue Cavs ORTG under Lue is 113.2 BTW which would be #1 this season and theyve stepped it to another gear in the playoffs like true GOAT offenses do. Since March actually theyve been on a similar level offensively than u seein now in the playoffs:applause:
The Warriors ORtg this year was 114.5, and that includes playing their bench in the vast majority of their 4th quarters this year.
Milbuck
05-18-2016, 12:56 AM
They play boring iso offense too much for me.
They actually don't.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-19-2016, 09:50 PM
130 ORTG in 1st half:oldlol: :oldlol:
anyone arguing this isnt the GOAT offense doesnt know sht about basketball:applause: :applause:
tpols
05-19-2016, 09:53 PM
130 ORTG in 1st half:oldlol: :oldlol:
anyone arguing this isnt the GOAT offense doesnt know sht about basketball:applause: :applause:
toronto raptors.
Dray n Klay
05-19-2016, 09:59 PM
toronto raptors.
Yup, they're better than any team in the league outside the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs.
Problem?
JellyBean
05-19-2016, 10:06 PM
I don't see the Cavs as having the best offense. Against a really good defensive minded team, the Cavs are going to be exposed.
oh the horror
05-19-2016, 10:07 PM
Yup, they're better than any team in the league outside the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs.
Problem?
Yes. You're not even trying anymore. Stop getting laughed out of conversations with your nonsense. Even sports talking heads are dismissing Toronto as nothing at this point.
bluechox2
05-19-2016, 10:08 PM
playing shit teams can make it seem like that
Dray n Klay
05-19-2016, 10:08 PM
Yes. You're not even trying anymore. Stop getting laughed out of conversations with your nonsense. Even sports talking heads are dismissing Toronto as nothing at this point.
You're retarded
Raptors had the 4th best record in the league behind the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-19-2016, 10:11 PM
I don't see the Cavs as having the best offense. Against a really good defensive minded team, the Cavs are going to be exposed.
The Hawks were a defensive minded team. THE 2ND BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE
and they got fcking murdered:roll: :roll: :roll:
hold this L
05-19-2016, 10:18 PM
The Hawks were a defensive minded team. THE 2ND BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE
and they got fcking murdered:roll: :roll: :roll:
Shouldn't you be backing your beta boy Durant? Or have you already given up on him? :lol What happens if OKC goes through, do you support Lebron or the Servant? :lol
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-19-2016, 10:20 PM
Shouldn't you be backing your beta boy Durant? Or have you already given up on him? :lol What happens if OKC goes through, do you support Lebron or the Servant? :lol
KDs my boy but i am watching an offensive behemoth right now
unless the 04 Pistons or 08 Celtics type defense is playing no team stands a chance against them
poido123
05-19-2016, 10:23 PM
You're retarded
Raptors had the 4th best record in the league behind the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs.
Good regular season team that plays hard.
In the playoffs, they are very ordinary.
tpols
05-19-2016, 10:24 PM
The Hawks were a defensive minded team. THE 2ND BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE
and they got fcking murdered:roll: :roll: :roll:
the hawks SUCK bro
they suck balls.
kamil
05-19-2016, 10:25 PM
They're the best offense I've ever seen. They currently have the highest playoff ORTG ever with 127. Lebron, kyrie and love are all top 10 offensive players. Lebron and kyrie top 5. Channing at the 5 is murder one of the best pickandpop and shooting bigs. JR is the best spot up shooter in the league. Delly shooting lights out. Shumpert is their worst shooter on the perimeter and he's shot 47% from 3. The only player in their rotation who can't shoot 3s at an absurd clip is Tristan Thompson whos the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.......there is nothing u can do to them defensively. ATL was a top 3 defense and they made a mockery of them
They didn't even shoot the lights out from 3 this game. They're the most diverse offense ever, dominated the paint, boards. Love is the best inside outside big in the league and statistically one of the best post bigs, kyrie is the best handler and slasher/finisher in NBA and an incredible scorer and shooter. One on one he's a top 5 unguardable player.
And they can play D too. Delly, lebron, Tristan and shump are among the best defenders at their position. When they go small love and kyrie are playing their roles and not liabilities anymore. They had a 92DRTG tonight and so far in playoffs they
They will easily win the title like Lakers did in 82 after getting Riley midseason. Tyron Lue is the next great alltime coach. My ball iq is far too high for u guys. Take my advice dummies this season is over. Can the Cavs threepeat is the next question?
With a longwinded thread like this, I have to actually believe you're serious..... and by that extension, delusional.
CavaliersFTW
05-19-2016, 10:38 PM
I don't see the Cavs as having the best offense. Against a really good defensive minded team, the Cavs are going to be exposed.
Cavs set offensive records against among the best defensive teams in the league this season, the Hawks. Blew them out in 4. Not saying I agree with "best offense ever" but the Cavs are really deep, and really flexible offensively it's gotta be a nightmare to match up to them no matter who the opponent is.
knicksman
05-19-2016, 10:41 PM
You're retarded
Raptors had the 4th best record in the league behind the Warriors, Spurs, Cavs.
bran stan calling someone retard:lol
ballinhun8
05-19-2016, 10:43 PM
Good regular season team that plays hard.
In the playoffs, they are very ordinary.
If anyone knows the true meaning of regular season warriors, it would be us Bulls fans :roll:
Dray n Klay
05-19-2016, 10:45 PM
bran stan calling someone retard:lol
Knicks fan talking about winning :lol
knicksman
05-19-2016, 10:48 PM
Knicks fan talking about winning :lol
bran stan calling someone retard
poido123
05-19-2016, 10:49 PM
If anyone knows the true meaning of regular season warriors, it would be us Bulls fans :roll:
:oldlol:
plowking
05-19-2016, 10:51 PM
They actually don't.
I either see an iso by Kyrie, or a drive and kick to one of the shooters with Bron setting it up.
Uchmanmamba24
05-19-2016, 10:57 PM
GSW beats this Cavs team in 5. Curry is destined to be an ATG!
Rocketswin2013
05-19-2016, 11:29 PM
this offense is unsustainable...for like a regular season. they could probably fluke out a title pushing 130 ortg and just sweeping the NBA playoffs. :oldlol:
i've never seen anything like this. thus was a genric "good" nba offense throughout the year. they can get as hot as any team ever, and before the heat wears off, they may just end the playoffs before it happens.
ive never seen a bigger example of getting hot at the right time.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-19-2016, 11:45 PM
this offense is unsustainable...for like a regular season. they could probably fluke out a title pushing 130 ortg and just sweeping the NBA playoffs. :oldlol:
i've never seen anything like this. thus was a genric "good" nba offense throughout the year. they can get as hot as any team ever, and before the heat wears off, they may just end the playoffs before it happens.
ive never seen a bigger example of getting hot at the right time.
theyve been at this level since March actually
the difference was Channing Frye
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-23-2016, 10:42 PM
11/11 FG in the 4th so far
Channing Frye is an offensive behemoth :biggums: :biggums: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Chokefree
05-23-2016, 10:48 PM
Knicks fan talking about winning :lol
Just PERM ban this peasant.....hes a no good toilet cleaning son of a bitch.....
sammichoffate
05-23-2016, 10:59 PM
:applause:
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:00 PM
11/11 FG in the 4th so far
Channing Frye is an offensive behemoth :biggums: :biggums: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
What a complete JOKE offense!!!!!
I have seen enough...the Warriors or Thunder in a sweep.
As for JR...if my roster came down to him and Stevie Wonder...I wouldn't hesitate to take Wonder.
Good luck with this POS offense.
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:04 PM
The Cavs offense...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0Y9wd2EPfbU/hqdefault.jpg
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-23-2016, 11:06 PM
What a complete JOKE offense!!!!!
I have seen enough...the Warriors or Thunder in a sweep.
As for JR...if my roster came down to him and Stevie Wonder...I wouldn't hesitate to take Wonder.
Good luck with this POS offense.
You dont know sht about basketball:oldlol: :oldlol:
their offense wasnt the problem in the 4th it was defense, and they still outscored Craptors in that quarter
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:07 PM
These Cavs love the career choking bench-warmers like Smith and Frey, don't they?
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:08 PM
You dont know sht about basketball:oldlol: :oldlol:
their offense wasnt the problem in the 4th it was defense, and they still outscored Craptors in that quarter
GOAT offense?????
:roll: :roll: :roll:
The local church league girls team has better shooters.
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:09 PM
Being serious...
I would take the Warriors bench over the Cavs' starters...player-for-player.
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:17 PM
And let's face it...the Craptors aren't playing defense, either. The Cavs just can't shoot.
Put Cleveland up against a REAL defense, like GS or SA...and they would be scoring 80-90 ppg on .375 from the field. All while surrendering 110-120+.
The Thunder might give up a few more, but they will also score a few more...so 125-95.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-23-2016, 11:24 PM
GOAT offense?????
:roll: :roll:
The local church league girls team has better shooters.
Kyrie shooting 47/46/84 in the playoffs, 58 TS
JR 46 from the field, 48% from deep, 67TS
Shump 51 from field, 53 from 3, 64 TS
Frye 63from field, 59 from 3........82 TS:biggums:
Jeff 47 form field, 42 from 3, 62 TS
Love shooting 44% from 3, 54 TS
yeah but they cant shoot right:oldlol:
Bran and TT are the only rotation players that cant shoot
go to bed old man:no: :no:
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:28 PM
Kyrie shooting 47/46/84 in the playoffs, 58 TS
JR 46 from the field, 48% from deep, 67TS
Shump 51 from field, 53 from 3, 64 TS
Frye 63from field, 59 from 3........82 TS:biggums:
Jeff 47 form field, 42 from 3, 62 TS
Love shooting 44% from 3, 54 TS
yeah but they cant shoot right:oldlol:
Bran and TT are the only rotation players that cant shoot
go to bed old man:no: :no:
These clowns have not faced a DEFENSE in the post-season, my friend.
I suspect that they will be good enough to beat a very poor Craptors team, but then, heaven help them against the Warriors or the Thunder.
Smith, Deli, Shumpert, and Frey will show their true colors in that series.
The FOUR Stooges...
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-23-2016, 11:29 PM
These clowns have not faced a DEFENSE in the post-season, my friend.
I suspect that they will be good enough to beat a very poor Craptors team, but then, heaven help them against the Warriors or the Thunder.
The Hawks are the 2ND BEST DEFENSE IN THE NBA:roll: :roll:
GS and hell no will OKC defend them as well as ATL did:roll: :roll:
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:32 PM
The Hawks are the 2ND BEST DEFENSE IN THE NBA:roll: :roll:
GS and hell no will OKC defend them as well as ATL did:roll: :roll:
We've been over this.
The Warriors ANNIHILATED these dorks this season. In one of them they held them to 83 points on .316 shooting, and in the other, it was over by half-time in a 40 point romp.
And please, don't say that a career choking bench-warmer like Frey is going to make a difference.
I can't wait my friend.
LAZERUSS
05-23-2016, 11:34 PM
BTW, the Showtime Lakers would have run these inept clowns out of the building in the first quarter.
Now, that was a GOAT offense.
Blue&Orange
05-24-2016, 12:06 AM
i wish someone dug up lebrontards threads last year after\when they were facing the hawks. :roll: :lol :roll:
Same shit this year. Hawks are basically trolling lebrontards for two years in a row, making them believe cavs are on other level.
LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 12:12 AM
i wish someone dug up lebrontards threads last year after\when they were facing the hawks. :roll: :lol :roll:
Same shit this year. Hawks are basically trolling lebrontards for two years in a row, making them believe cavs are on other level.
100% correct.
The Hawks were a better team last year, too.
To claim that they were a defensive dynamo is laughable.
Again...the real defenses are played in the West. Forget the high scoring, those teams make stops, and then score within seconds. In the East teams plod up the court, pass the ball around for 20 seconds, and then take a 25 foot shot with two players draped all over the shooter.
And when the East meets the West, they can't keep up the pace, and start losing their legs. By halftime their 20 foot shots are going 19.
And the Craptors have completely abandoned playing against the 3pt shot. Let those shaking chokers shoot.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-25-2016, 09:38 PM
BTW, the Showtime Lakers would have run these inept clowns out of the building in the first quarter.
Now, that was a GOAT offense.
:roll: :roll:
16 Cavs>any Magic led offense
cant shoot?
u watchin this game:roll: :roll:
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-25-2016, 10:13 PM
LAZERUSS gone ghost:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-25-2016, 10:16 PM
Team is 61% from the field, 50% from 3, 88% from FT
but LAZERUSS says they cant shoot guys:roll: :roll:
GOAT offense:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
tpols
05-25-2016, 11:07 PM
GS and hell no will OKC defend them as well as ATL did:roll: :roll:
my dawg, what have you been smoking? :lol .. some :pimp: obviously..
OKC is BIG.
7'0 Adams (young and spry) vs 6'9 Horford (old / ass)
6'10 long Ibaka vs 6'7 Millsack (say no more..)
6'11 long Durant vs 6'6 Kent Bazemore
6'7 lock down Roberson vs 6'6 soft Kyle Korver
6'4 BIG Westbrook vs 6'2 Jeff Teague
OKC is so much bigger and more imposing.. and they have much more offensive firepower than the the shitty hawks.
:coleman:
LAZERUSS
05-25-2016, 11:34 PM
:roll: :roll:
16 Cavs>any Magic led offense
cant shoot?
u watchin this game:roll: :roll:
And you getting excited about the Cavs beating the Craptors?
Wait until the Finals, my friend. When the Cavs will not only be facing far superior defenses, but far superior offenses, as well. They will be chasing players all over the court, and will tire out by the second halves.
Comparing a team with two below-average shooting guards carrying an anemic offense...against either the Thunder with an unstoppable Durant, and a Westbrick who will run the entire Cavs team ragged, as well as role players who can actually shoot; or else against a Warrior team that has FIVE guys who can shoot the three, including the two best pure shooters of this era?
As for Magic's Lakers...
Magic FORCED TEMPO...
how about a small sampling of the '85 Lakers post-season...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198504180LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198504200LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198505070LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198505220LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198506020LAL.html
Oh, and in the Finals, they faced one of the GOAT teams in NBA history in the 63-19 Celtics, who would go 67-15 the very next season.
But, again...let's see how the Finals play out THIS season...
LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 12:19 AM
BTW, it would be an interesting hypothetical, to have the '16 Cavs going up against the '85 Lakers.
Worthy was unstoppable in that post-season (21.5 ppg on a .646 TS%), and he would match-up with Lebron.
Then the Lakers could throw a three-headed group of PF's, in a still good McAdoo, a pesky Rambis, and a decent Kupchak...at Love (or Frey.)
And LA could counter Kyrie with either a very good offensive guard in Scott, or an all-world defender in Cooper (who BTW, had a very productive offensive showing in that post-season, as well.) Oh, and if Cooper was considered the "Bird Stopper", he could surely give either Lebron or Love fits, as well.
BUT, who is going to defend a KAJ that just annihilated a Celtic front-court of Bird, McHale, and Parish in the Finals?
And a huge BUT...who is going to defend a 6-8 Magic nearing his peak?
IMHO...a Laker rout.
moongaze
05-26-2016, 12:24 AM
The cavs offense has looked pretty amazing this playoffs. had the highest offense rating after ten games in the last 30 years.
Relinquish
05-26-2016, 12:40 AM
BTW, it would be an interesting hypothetical, to have the '16 Cavs going up against the '85 Lakers.
Worthy was unstoppable in that post-season (21.5 ppg on a .646 TS%), and he would match-up with Lebron.
Then the Lakers could throw a three-headed group of PF's, in a still good McAdoo, a pesky Rambis, and a decent Kupchak...at Love (or Frey.)
And LA could counter Kyrie with either a very good offensive guard in Scott, or an all-world defender in Cooper (who BTW, had a very productive offensive showing in that post-season, as well.) Oh, and if Cooper was considered the "Bird Stopper", he could surely give either Lebron or Love fits, as well.
BUT, who is going to defend a KAJ that just annihilated a Celtic front-court of Bird, McHale, and Parish in the Finals?
And a huge BUT...who is going to defend a 6-8 Magic nearing his peak?
IMHO...a Laker rout.
Who's Frey? :biggums:
LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 12:42 AM
Who's Frey? :biggums:
Tina Frey's husband.
nashwade
05-26-2016, 12:47 AM
1. regular season results matters for zilch. 06 Heat couldn't beat the Mavs during regular season. Bron's Heat couldn't beat Celtics or Bulls during regular season.
2. offense/defense ratings means zilch as well cos you just need to beat FOUR teams to win the ring. I still remember Lakers were losing to the lowly Kings at one point but it don't matter cos Kings ain't never gonna sniff the playoffs.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-26-2016, 01:19 AM
The cavs offense has looked pretty amazing this playoffs. had the highest offense rating after ten games in the last 30 years.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
GOAT offense:applause: ive never seen anything like it :applause:
moongaze
05-26-2016, 01:33 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
GOAT offense:applause: ive never seen anything like it :applause:
and that's not a stretch at all but haters have the right to be skeptical until the finals. I too can't wait to see what level this team can take it to if it makes the finals. It's almost like love figured something out tonight. Hes being way to passive. With his aggression he saw that he can score at will against this team or draw fouls. If love can continue to dominate offensively, the cavs for sure have the chance to be one of the best offenses in NBA history.
moongaze
05-26-2016, 01:38 AM
That first half against the Hawks in game two is the best half of basketball I've ever seen. It's gotta be the goat offensive half ever. 18 three pointers on like 62 percent or better :bowdown:
74 -38 :lebronamazed:
Piccolo
05-26-2016, 03:03 AM
That first half against the Hawks in game two is the best half of basketball I've ever seen. It's gotta be the goat offensive half ever. 18 three pointers on like 62 percent or better :bowdown:
74 -38 :lebronamazed:
100% agree with this. I have never seen anything like it. The best first half ever. It was a thing of beauty. That Hawks series in general was amazing.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2016, 09:50 PM
10/15 from 3 at the half in Toronto!!!:applause: :applause: :applause:
this team is unbeliavable:applause: :applause:
LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 09:59 PM
10/15 from 3 at the half in Toronto!!!:applause: :applause: :applause:
this team is unbeliavable:applause: :applause:
Playing against a D-League team.
The majors come next week.
10-15 will become 3-15.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2016, 10:01 PM
Playing against a D-League team.
The majors come next week.
10-15 will become 3-15.
:roll: :roll:
Toronto is a top 5 team in the league one of the few to finish top 10 in offense and defense and top 5 in O actually.
keep hating i look forward to showin up ur ball IQ again:oldlol: :oldlol:
LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:02 PM
:roll: :roll:
Toronto is a top 5 team in the league one of the few to finish top 10 in offense and defense and top 5 in O actually.
keep hating i look forward to showin up ur ball IQ again:oldlol: :oldlol:
You haven't shown me up yet.
It will be no different next week.
The Cavs will be lucky to avoid a sweep.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2016, 10:03 PM
You haven't shown me up yet.
It will be no different next week.
The Cavs will be lucky to avoid a sweep.
why are u underrating the Cavs so much? i thought u were a Lebron fan:lol :lol
LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:06 PM
why are u underrating the Cavs so much? i thought u were a Lebron fan:lol :lol
I'm a fan of basketball.
When I see great play, I acknowledge it.
Beating those Eastern pansies doesn't show me anything.
If they beat the Thunder or GS...I'll tip my hat to them.
As for Lebron...I defend him here against the idiots. But, I also rip him for his poor play, when he deserves it.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2016, 10:16 PM
I'm a fan of basketball.
When I see great play, I acknowledge it.
Beating those Eastern pansies doesn't show me anything.
If they beat the Thunder or GS...I'll tip my hat to them.
As for Lebron...I defend him here against the idiots. But, I also rip him for his poor play, when he deserves it.
Then what does it say about those 80s Lakers who beat trash teams in almost every run?
LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:20 PM
Then what does it say about those 80s Lakers who beat trash teams in almost every run?
The '80 and '82 Sixers, the '85 and '87 Celtics, and the '88 Pistons were trash teams?
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-27-2016, 10:23 PM
The '80 and '82 Sixers, the '85 and '87 Celtics, and the '88 Pistons were trash teams?
i said almost every run. And its telling u could only name eastern conference teams with how garbage trash that west was.:oldlol: :oldlol:
Cavs are finally healthy theyre gonna murder anyone who comes out west
LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:25 PM
i said almost every run. And its telling u could only name eastern conference teams with how garbage trash that west was.:oldlol: :oldlol:
Cavs are finally healthy theyre gonna murder anyone who comes out west
Magic's Lakers beat more 50+ win teams than Bird's Celtics did.
For instance, they routed the defending champion, and 56-26 Sonics in Magic's rookie season, and then in last season, they upset the 63-19 Blazers en route to his ninth Finals in 12 seasons.
BallsOut
05-29-2016, 02:14 PM
They're the best offense I've ever seen. They currently have the highest playoff ORTG ever with 127. Lebron, kyrie and love are all top 10 offensive players. Lebron and kyrie top 5. Channing at the 5 is murder one of the best pickandpop and shooting bigs. JR is the best spot up shooter in the league. Delly shooting lights out. Shumpert is their worst shooter on the perimeter and he's shot 47% from 3. The only player in their rotation who can't shoot 3s at an absurd clip is Tristan Thompson whos the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.......there is nothing u can do to them defensively. ATL was a top 3 defense and they made a mockery of them
They didn't even shoot the lights out from 3 this game. They're the most diverse offense ever, dominated the paint, boards. Love is the best inside outside big in the league and statistically one of the best post bigs, kyrie is the best handler and slasher/finisher in NBA and an incredible scorer and shooter. One on one he's a top 5 unguardable player.
And they can play D too. Delly, lebron, Tristan and shump are among the best defenders at their position. When they go small love and kyrie are playing their roles and not liabilities anymore. They had a 92DRTG tonight and so far in playoffs they
They will easily win the title like Lakers did in 82 after getting Riley midseason. Tyron Lue is the next great alltime coach. My ball iq is far too high for u guys. Take my advice dummies this season is over. Can the Cavs threepeat is the next question?
:lebronamazed:
LAZERUSS
06-03-2016, 12:06 AM
Bump...
BTW, what did I say about the JR, Deli, Shumpert, and Frye?
PickernRoller
06-03-2016, 12:10 AM
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BallsOut
06-04-2016, 09:04 PM
They're the best offense I've ever seen. They currently have the highest playoff ORTG ever with 127. Lebron, kyrie and love are all top 10 offensive players. Lebron and kyrie top 5. Channing at the 5 is murder one of the best pickandpop and shooting bigs. JR is the best spot up shooter in the league. Delly shooting lights out. Shumpert is their worst shooter on the perimeter and he's shot 47% from 3. The only player in their rotation who can't shoot 3s at an absurd clip is Tristan Thompson whos the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.......there is nothing u can do to them defensively. ATL was a top 3 defense and they made a mockery of them
They didn't even shoot the lights out from 3 this game. They're the most diverse offense ever, dominated the paint, boards. Love is the best inside outside big in the league and statistically one of the best post bigs, kyrie is the best handler and slasher/finisher in NBA and an incredible scorer and shooter. One on one he's a top 5 unguardable player.
And they can play D too. Delly, lebron, Tristan and shump are among the best defenders at their position. When they go small love and kyrie are playing their roles and not liabilities anymore. They had a 92DRTG tonight and so far in playoffs they
They will easily win the title like Lakers did in 82 after getting Riley midseason. Tyron Lue is the next great alltime coach. My ball iq is far too high for u guys. Take my advice dummies this season is over. Can the Cavs threepeat is the next question?
:lebronamazed:
GINOBILI!
06-06-2016, 10:57 AM
:durantunimpressed:
warriorfan
06-06-2016, 10:58 AM
we knew this from before but...op is fuccing retarded
Optimus Prime
06-06-2016, 10:58 AM
They're the best offense I've ever seen. They currently have the highest playoff ORTG ever with 127. Lebron, kyrie and love are all top 10 offensive players. Lebron and kyrie top 5. Channing at the 5 is murder one of the best pickandpop and shooting bigs. JR is the best spot up shooter in the league. Delly shooting lights out. Shumpert is their worst shooter on the perimeter and he's shot 47% from 3. The only player in their rotation who can't shoot 3s at an absurd clip is Tristan Thompson whos the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.......there is nothing u can do to them defensively. ATL was a top 3 defense and they made a mockery of them
They didn't even shoot the lights out from 3 this game. They're the most diverse offense ever, dominated the paint, boards. Love is the best inside outside big in the league and statistically one of the best post bigs, kyrie is the best handler and slasher/finisher in NBA and an incredible scorer and shooter. One on one he's a top 5 unguardable player.
And they can play D too. Delly, lebron, Tristan and shump are among the best defenders at their position. When they go small love and kyrie are playing their roles and not liabilities anymore. They had a 92DRTG tonight and so far in playoffs they
They will easily win the title like Lakers did in 82 after getting Riley midseason. Tyron Lue is the next great alltime coach. My ball iq is far too high for u guys. Take my advice dummies this season is over. Can the Cavs threepeat is the next question?
https://media.giphy.com/media/bmujtlix2RKZG/giphy.gif
:lebronamazed: :yaohappy: :party: :hammertime: :milton
keep-itreal
06-06-2016, 11:00 AM
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Disaprine
06-06-2016, 11:08 AM
:lol
LAZERUSS
06-11-2016, 10:15 AM
Just checking in again.
How are the Cavs, with the best offense ever, doing in this series?
Surely their great shooters like JR, Deli, Shum, and Frye have been going off, right?
BallsOut
06-12-2016, 05:13 PM
They're the best offense I've ever seen. They currently have the highest playoff ORTG ever with 127. Lebron, kyrie and love are all top 10 offensive players. Lebron and kyrie top 5. Channing at the 5 is murder one of the best pickandpop and shooting bigs. JR is the best spot up shooter in the league. Delly shooting lights out. Shumpert is their worst shooter on the perimeter and he's shot 47% from 3. The only player in their rotation who can't shoot 3s at an absurd clip is Tristan Thompson whos the best offensive rebounder in the NBA.......there is nothing u can do to them defensively. ATL was a top 3 defense and they made a mockery of them
They didn't even shoot the lights out from 3 this game. They're the most diverse offense ever, dominated the paint, boards. Love is the best inside outside big in the league and statistically one of the best post bigs, kyrie is the best handler and slasher/finisher in NBA and an incredible scorer and shooter. One on one he's a top 5 unguardable player.
And they can play D too. Delly, lebron, Tristan and shump are among the best defenders at their position. When they go small love and kyrie are playing their roles and not liabilities anymore. They had a 92DRTG tonight and so far in playoffs they
They will easily win the title like Lakers did in 82 after getting Riley midseason. Tyron Lue is the next great alltime coach. My ball iq is far too high for u guys. Take my advice dummies this season is over. Can the Cavs threepeat is the next question?
:lebronamazed:
CavaliersFTW
06-19-2016, 11:22 PM
Certainly not the best offense ever and it was far from easy looking however they did win the championship. :applause:
Nilocon165
06-22-2016, 10:51 PM
He was right! Why hasn't he logged in and bumped this yet?
aj1987
09-22-2016, 06:57 AM
And you getting excited about the Cavs beating the Craptors?
Wait until the Finals, my friend. When the Cavs will not only be facing far superior defenses, but far superior offenses, as well. They will be chasing players all over the court, and will tire out by the second halves.
Comparing a team with two below-average shooting guards carrying an anemic offense...against either the Thunder with an unstoppable Durant, and a Westbrick who will run the entire Cavs team ragged, as well as role players who can actually shoot; or else against a Warrior team that has FIVE guys who can shoot the three, including the two best pure shooters of this era?
As for Magic's Lakers...
Magic FORCED TEMPO...
how about a small sampling of the '85 Lakers post-season...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198504180LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198504200LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198505070LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198505220LAL.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198506020LAL.html
Oh, and in the Finals, they faced one of the GOAT teams in NBA history in the 63-19 Celtics, who would go 67-15 the very next season.
But, again...let's see how the Finals play out THIS season...
I think it played out quite well, Lozerus. :applause: :cheers:
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 08:30 AM
He was right! Why hasn't he logged in and bumped this yet?
He sure was.
Pretty amazing.
How in the hell did he know that Draymond, who was, BY FAR, the best player on the floor in game seven, would be unjustly suspended for game five.
Or that the Warriors rim protector would miss the last two games.
Or that the Lebron-stopper Iguadala would injure in his back and was worthless in the last two games.
Or that the regular season MVP would put up the most pathetic Finals since LeChoke's 2011.
The man was brilliant.
Unfortunately, he probably killed himself after game four, when the Cavs were down 3-1, and with Leshrivel content to be a bystander, and with zero hope of winning this series against a healthy Warrior team.
Nilocon165
09-22-2016, 08:35 AM
He sure was.
Pretty amazing.
How in the hell did he know that Draymond, who was, BY FAR, the best player on the floor in game seven, would be unjustly suspended for game five.
Or that the Warriors rim protector would miss the last two games.
Or that the Lebron-stopper Iguadala would injure in his back and was worthless in the last two games.
Or that the regular season MVP would put up the most pathetic Finals since LeChoke's 2011.
The man was brilliant.
Unfortunately, he probably killed himself after game four, when the Cavs were down 3-1, and with Leshrivel content to be a bystander, and with zero hope of winning this series against a healthy Warrior team.
11 ppg :roll:
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 08:38 AM
11 ppg :roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12604379&postcount=10
11 ppg >>>>>>>> 36 ppg.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
aj1987
09-22-2016, 08:42 AM
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.
He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.
The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.
You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.
For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.
LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.
LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.
Without James on the floor, Cleveland
:applause: :applause: :applause:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Top 3 DOA. Your lover is somewhere around 15 though.
Yup. when the going gets tough, LeBron rises to the challenge (for the most part). Wilt on the other hand....
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12604379&postcount=10
11 ppg >>>>>>>> 36 ppg.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
:hammerhead:
You've turned into a useless troll.
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 01:08 PM
Yup. when the going gets tough, LeBron rises to the challenge (for the most part). Wilt on the other hand....
Part 1:
[QUOTE]2. YET THE MAN TASKED WITH DEFENDING HIM FOR MOST OF THE SERIES WON THE FINALS MVP AWARD.
[B]Andre Iguodala was the rightful recipient of the Finals MVP and certainly deserved to win it by more than the 7-4 margin he had over LeBron. Why? Despite LeBron
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 01:25 PM
Yup. when the going gets tough, LeBron rises to the challenge (for the most part). Wilt on the other hand....
Let's compare LeClank's 2015 Finals, with Wilt's '64 Finals, shall we?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2015-nba-finals-cavaliers-vs-warriors.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1964-nba-finals-warriors-vs-celtics.html
Leshrivel shot as bad as his teammates, and clearly had more help.
Meanwhile, subtract Wilt's and Russell's FG%'s from their respective team's...Russell's TEAMMATES outshot Wilt's TEAMMATES by a ....
... .456 to .348 margin!
THAT was what Wilt had to deal with nearly his ENTIRE post-season career.
BTW, take a look at Russell's HOF-laden roster and compare it to Wilt's POS roster. And please, don't bring up Thurmond, who was a ROOKIE, playing PART-TIME, and out-of-position.
BTW, I find it fascinating that Wilt's gets bashed when a teammate can average 38 ppg in a series. Find me a time when a LeFlop teammate put up numbers like that. Wilt ELEVATED the play of his teammates, no matter how bad they were, while Leshrivel dramatically LOWERED the play of his.
Of course, had Wilt's COACH had Chamberlain taking 32+ FGAs in the '69 Finals, like LeFail did in the '15 Finals, he would have hung a 45 ppg series.
aj1987
09-22-2016, 01:50 PM
Part 1:
The REALITY of the 2015 Finals...
While LePuke's teammates played poorly (which is no surprise, since he had a history of reducing his teammates to garbage)...
it doesn't explain how LeClank...SINGLE-COVERED the ENTIRE series...could shoot so HORRIFICALLY (which, again, he has had a HISTORY of doing in his post-season seriers)
Continued...
How does it feel to know that your roided up mental midget lover lost a Finals with a teammate averaging 39/5/8? Not to mention the FACT that it was in the WORST era of basketball. :roll:
tpols
09-22-2016, 03:16 PM
How does it feel to know that your roided up mental midget lover lost a Finals with a teammate averaging 39/5/8? Not to mention the FACT that it was in the WORST era of basketball. :roll:
yea, but LeBron lost to an inferior team in 2011, with similar support to that, dead peak, not end prime like wilt .. it seems you're reaching pretty hard here.
aj1987
09-22-2016, 03:19 PM
yea, but LeBron lost to an inferior team in 2011, with similar support to that, dead peak, not end prime like wilt .. it seems you're reaching pretty hard here.
What does that exactly have to do with West averaging 39/5/8 and still losing because the "GOAT Scorer" couldn't score to save his life? '11 wasn't peak LeBron. '13 was his peak season.
I've never defended his '11 Finals, BTW. I've always maintained that he choked hard AF. Unlike you, when it comes to Kobe, I can admit when a player I support fails.
45.6% for a 7'1 center who usually shoots 55%+ is supposed to be impressive? :roll:
ILT
tpols
09-22-2016, 03:26 PM
What does that exactly have to do with West averaging 39/5/8 and still losing because the "GOAT Scorer" couldn't score to save his life? '11 wasn't peak LeBron. '13 was his peak season.
I've never defended his '11 Finals, BTW. I've always maintained that he choked hard AF. Unlike you, when it comes to Kobe, I can admit when a player I support fails.
yea but its funny that you hate on wilt for that, but lebron had very similar occurance.. even down to the "roided out" part for early miami bron.. i just dont get how you hate on wilt so much despite his similarity to bron in a lot of ways
aj1987
09-22-2016, 03:30 PM
yea but its funny that you hate on wilt for that, but lebron had very similar occurance.. even down to the "roided out" part for early miami bron.. i just dont get how you hate on wilt so much despite his similarity to bron in a lot of ways
LeBron has more than redeemed himself for his '11 Finals. :confusedshrug:
The same could be said for Kobe as well and could be applied for basically any player. When it comes down to it, Kobe and Ilt are pretty much on the same tier as Finals performers. Although, I'd rank Kobe slightly higher.
That being said, neither Kobe nor Ilt have ATG Finals performances. So, they're definitely significantly behind LeBron.
KirbyPls
09-22-2016, 03:31 PM
yea but its funny that you hate on wilt for that, but lebron had very similar occurance.. even down to the "roided out" part for early miami bron.. i just dont get how you hate on wilt so much despite his similarity to bron in a lot of ways
Kobe fans should not throw stones in the PED area at all.
tpols
09-22-2016, 04:10 PM
Kobe fans should not throw stones in the PED area at all.
kobe used procedures for recoveries for his many injuries to keep goin .. he wasn't ever body builder roided out like bron and wilt were. He didnt even have the frame to stack mass like that anyway especially compared to those two.
aj1987
09-22-2016, 04:16 PM
kobe used procedures for recoveries for his many injuries to keep goin .. he wasn't ever body builder roided out like bron and wilt were. He didnt even have the frame to stack mass like that anyway especially compared to those two.
Bruh, are we rewriting history now? Remember the season when Kobe went up to ~235 lbs and due to that weight he had knee issues, which forced him to lose all that muscle mass again? It was the '04 season, IIRC.
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 04:21 PM
45.6% for a 7'1 center who usually shoots 55%+ is supposed to be impressive? :roll:
ILT
You better check that link again...
.517, in a post-season that shot .420, in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot .399, which INCLUDED Chamberlain's .517.
BTW, the very next season, in the EDF's, Chamberlain dragged a team that had gone 34-46 the year before without him, to a game seven, one point loss against a 62-18 Celtics team at the peak of their dynasty...
...and in a series in which Chamberlain led BOTH teams in MPG, PPG, RPG, TRB%, FG%, and TS%.
All he did in that series was average 30.1 ppg, 31.4 rpg, shoot .555 from the floor, and had a .575 TS%. Oh, and two teams combined to shoot .413...which AGAIN, included WILT's .555.
BTW, Wilt's TEAMMATE committed a TO in the last five seconds. So, Wilt was one bad pass away from winning a ring, while LePuke was a TEAMMATE's shot away from losing a ring.
And, no, LeClank NEVER had a post-season series as great as Wilt's '65 EDF's (which, as ALWAYS determined the NBA champion.)
LORD Chamberlain >>>>>> LeLoser.
AS to "era"...
Kareem shot .486, .481, .457, .428, and .405 against a fading Thurmond, and a way-past-his-prime Wilt in their five playoff series.
Yet, a 38-39 year old KAJ was hanging ten straight games of an AVERAGE of 32.0 ppg on a .630 FG%, which included three games of 40, 43, and 46 ...against Hakeem. Obviously Hakeem was a POS who could never have competed in the 60's, right?
LeBron's a loser all right. That's why he won more than Wilt did :oldlol:
Wilt's failures extended past basketball. The dude was a Nixon supporter :facepalm
Kareem called him out on this, possibly during one of the countless times he dropped 40+ points on Wilt.
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 04:33 PM
LeBron's a loser all right. That's why he won more than Wilt did :oldlol:
Wilt's failures extended past basketball. The dude was a Nixon supporter :facepalm
Kareem called him out on this, possibly during one of the countless times he dropped 40+ points on Wilt.
Kareem shot .464 in his 28 career H2H's with Wilt, 27 of which came against a 34-36 year old Wilt who was playing on a surgically repaired knee...and a 37-41 year KAJ shot .607 in his 23 career H2H's with a 22-24 year odl Hakeem..
KAJ was ROUTINELY pouring in 40+ against Hakeem, and on a FAR greater FG% than he did against Chamberlain.
BTW, in their one H2H before Wilt shredded his knee...he badly outplayed Kareem. Outscored, outrebounded, outassisted, outblocked, and outshot him.
Oh, a prime Wilt was FAR more dominant against the SAME centers that a peak Kareem would face just a few years later. Guys like Dierking, Imhoff, Reed, Bellamy, and Thurmond. FAR more dominant.
Kareem was more dominant in the playoffs though. Like LeBron, he stepped up on the big stage. Shame Ilt seemed to get a case of the jitters whenever it got pressure packed.
aj1987
09-22-2016, 04:37 PM
LeBron's a loser all right. That's why he won more than Wilt did :oldlol:
Wilt's failures extended past basketball. The dude was a Nixon supporter :facepalm
Kareem called him out on this, possibly during one of the countless times he dropped 40+ points on Wilt.
:roll: :roll:
:applause:
You should see his other posts. Dude is OBSESSED with LeBron's *****. :wtf:
:roll: :roll:
:applause:
You should see his other posts. Dude is OBSESSED with LeBron's *****. :wtf:
I know. Savannah better watch out, Laz is coming for her man :roll:
LAZERUSS
09-22-2016, 04:47 PM
:roll: :roll:
:applause:
You should see his other posts. Dude is OBSESSED with LeBron's *****. :wtf:
Not much to be obsessed about is there?
Leshrinkage.
Hey Yo
09-22-2016, 05:01 PM
What a complete JOKE offense!!!!!
I have seen enough...the Warriors or Thunder in a sweep.
As for JR...if my roster came down to him and Stevie Wonder...I wouldn't hesitate to take Wonder.
Good luck with this POS offense.
:oldlol: .....ruined
aj1987
09-22-2016, 05:02 PM
Not much to be obsessed about is there?
Leshrinkage.
Once again. Are you sure that you don't have a thing for LeBron?
egokiller
09-22-2016, 05:39 PM
Once again. Are you sure that you don't have a thing for LeBron?
Aren't you the guy that was trying to justify Lebron's small d1ck size when he showed it to the world? I know the 3 guys on here who swing from his nuts were let down because he wasn't all the man they thought he was but then you or some other Lebron nut hugger to flip the story and say that he could be an inspiration for those with small d1cks everywhere as he is proof that one can still achieve with such a small package. I find the whole situation cringe worthy so I'd appreciate it if you guys would keep your justification for his lack of size to yourselves.
aj1987
09-22-2016, 06:09 PM
Aren't you the guy that was trying to justify Lebron's small d1ck size when he showed it to the world? I know the 3 guys on here who swing from his nuts were let down because he wasn't all the man they thought he was but then you or some other Lebron nut hugger to flip the story and say that he could be an inspiration for those with small d1cks everywhere as he is proof that one can still achieve with such a small package. I find the whole situation cringe worthy so I'd appreciate it if you guys would keep your justification for his lack of size to yourselves.
If you find a single post of mine, which can support your claims, I'll PayPal you $1,000.
Until then, GTFOH, you midget ******. What the **** is up with this board and people constantly taking about other dudes' looks and penises?
egokiller
09-22-2016, 07:09 PM
If you find a single post of mine, which can support your claims, I'll PayPal you $1,000.
Until then, GTFOH, you midget ******. What the **** is up with this board and people constantly taking about other dudes' looks and penises?
Ok, I'll keep an eye out for those posts. Must have been someone else then.
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