I just can't fully respect players who don't guard stars at their positions

[konex]

I really like Curry and he deserves MVP but it's kind of ridiculous to me that a guy like Harden gets clowned on for defense but no one talks about Curry having to be hidden on self-checks constantly. :confusedshrug:

[branslowski]

If you a coach tryna win why would you piy Curry on Westbrook when Klay Thompson is your best on ball defender? And when Currys strength is off ball stealing? Plus even still, Curry>>Harden on defense, and I like Harden.

[sportjames23]

konex, who's gonna win this series?

[dontgetchoked]

Harden is a bad defender and a lot of that is from a lack of effort. Curry is an average to good defender because he tries on defense. Like the poster above said, why wouldn't you put your teams best defenders on Westbrook? That's what teammates are for, to help make up for each others weaknesses to form a complete basketball team. And curry does guard the other teams pg, just not on every single possession, they switch up defensive assignments throughout the game. It would be silly to leave curry on the other teams best offensive player it would gas him out.

And what's up with people trashing great teams? No player wins without a great team. The point is to have a better team than the other guy, right?

[stalkerforlife]

Did you watch the game just last night?

Curry was on Westbrook a lot.

Do you think Jordan guarded the opposing team's best player at all times? Or did Pippen sometimes take the assignment?

[branslowski]

White

2 Questions....Why are you always on my d!ck?, and why do you want me to be white so bad?

[Snarky Narc]

Curry did a great job on Westbrook last night :confusedshrug:

[konex]

Did you watch the game just last night?

Curry was on Westbrook a lot.

This is just not true. Klay was the primary defender


Do you think Jordan guarded the opposing team's best player at all times? Or did Pippen sometimes take the assignment?

Jordan was never hidden on the worst offensive player most games in his prime.

Defense is why I respect CP3. He is never hidden and almost always takes the challenge

[Snarky Narc]

This is just not true. Klay was the primary defender



Jordan was never hidden on the worst offensive player most games in his prime.

Defense is why I respect CP3. He is never hidden and almost always takes the challenge
So you don't respect Curry, but CP3 is the guy you do respect? :biggums:

[Klay 3D]

Keyword fully. At least you still respect him somewhat. :applause: :cheers:

[stalkerforlife]

This is just not true. Klay was the primary defender



Jordan was never hidden on the worst offensive player most games in his prime.

Defense is why I respect CP3. He is never hidden and almost always takes the challenge

So you didn't watch the game.

Jordan, like a lot of superstars, sometimes rested on defense so they could max out their offensive potential.

Leonard, the back to back DPOY, often did NOT guard Durant and instead Green was on him.

[konex]

So you didn't watch the game.

Jordan, like a lot of superstars, sometimes rested on defense so they could max out their offensive potential.

Sometimes. Curry hardly ever guards stars. It's so weak


Leonard, the back to back DPOY, often did NOT guard Durant and instead Green was on him.

Only cos Westbrook was murdering them that series. He took the challenge

[riseagainst]

MJ never always guarded the opposing team's best player.

[stalkerforlife]

Do you fully respect Kobe? He rarely guarded Ray Allen and instead Fisher was relegated to chasing him.

Kobe mostly guarded Rondo and basically played safety.

[Snarky Narc]

Do you fully respect Kobe? He rarely guarded Ray Allen and instead Fisher was relegated to chasing him.

Kobe mostly guarded Rondo and basically played safety.
:applause:

[stalkerforlife]

Sometimes. Curry hardly ever guards stars. It's so weak



Only cos Westbrook was murdering them that series. He took the challenge

Durant 28.5 on 50%.

Westbrook 25.2 on 37%.

[branslowski]

Why do you want to be black so bad?

Are you retarded or naw? Not only have I posted my music on these boards with my pic, I again posted my mugshots on this forum because of racist cops. You kids on this board must think it's godly to be black, but don't even think about the negatives like when I go to SunTrust to grab some cash and everyone in there lookin at me like im gonna rob the place cause I got dreads. You about the dumbest son of a b!tch on this forum bar none. What you wanna be black or somethin? Yea it's good to be black but not as amazing as you obviously think it is for you to believe someone would pretend to be it. Get ya sh!t together yung bul. It ain't dat serious.

[stalkerforlife]

And Lebron23, WTF is wrong with you? Why would someone pretend to be a different race than they are?

Calm your little brown ass down, son.

[miggyme1]

this is dumb logic. its a reason sports is like chess. You gotta know where to put your pieces IF you want to win. Now if you don't want to win...SURE let curry guard westbrook....hell let curry guard Durant..that would be awesome

[Snarky Narc]

Are you retarded or naw? Not only have I posted my music on these boards with my pic, I again posted my mugshots on this forum because of racist cops. You kids on this board must think it's godly to be black, but don't even think about the negatives like when I go to SunTrust to grab some cash and everyone in there lookin at me like im gonna rob the place cause I got dreads. You about the dumbest son of a b!tch on this forum bar none. What you wanna be black or somethin? Yea it's good to be black but not as amazing as you obviously think it is for you to believe someone would pretend to be it. Get ya sh!t together yung bul. It ain't dat serious.
:oldlol:

[Young X]

Did you watch the game just last night?

Curry was on Westbrook a lot.

Do you think Jordan guarded the opposing team's best player at all times? Or did Pippen sometimes take the assignment?Jordan guarded his POSITION. When did you ever see him hiding from his positional matchup?

I wouldn't go as far as the thread title but I can't respect you as a DEFENDER if you don't take the challenge and guard star players at your position in most instances.

Someone brought up Chris Paul, he's like the only star PG who is COMPETITIVE enough and prideful enough of his defense to take the challenge and guard the other elite players every night. Once in a while he'll get cooked, that happens at times, but at least he doesn't hide. How cowardly would it look if they put JJ Redick or Austin Rivers on Curry/Westbrook/Lillard, etc while he saves energy for offense?

[k0kakw0rld]

Harden is a bad defender and a lot of that is from a lack of effort. Curry is an average to good defender because he tries on defense. Like the poster above said, why wouldn't you put your teams best defenders on Westbrook? That's what teammates are for, to help make up for each others weaknesses to form a complete basketball team. And curry does guard the other teams pg, just not on every single possession, they switch up defensive assignments throughout the game. It would be silly to leave curry on the other teams best offensive player it would gas him out.

And what's up with people trashing great teams? No player wins without a great team. The point is to have a better team than the other guy, right?
But the hate comes from the "best player" argument. For me you can not be the best player if you ain't a two way player. I don't care how great your offense is. Because there are other players out there putting similar numbers but busting their asses on defense as well. But they do not get the recognition because their game ain't as pretty to the eyes as certain players in this league. We all know people love, flashy players. High flyers, no look 3s players LOL. But best player means, complete player. Offense is not the only criteria to determine who's the best player and who's not.

[stalkerforlife]

Jordan guarded his POSITION. When did you ever see him hiding from his positional matchup?

I wouldn't go as far as the thread title but I can't respect you as a DEFENDER if you don't take the challenge and guard star players at your position in most instances.

Someone brought up Chris Paul, he's like the only star PG who is COMPETITIVE enough and prideful enough of his defense to take the challenge and guard the other elite players every night. Once in a while he'll get cooked, that happens at times but at least he doesn't hide. How cowardly would it look if they put JJ Redick or Austin Rivers on Curry/Westbrook/Lillard/etc while he saves energy for offense?

Easy to state this when there were clearly no all time great talents at his position during his reign. (Maybe Drexler) It isn't true because I have seen other players guarding Hornacek for instance, but whatever. The PG position has far more elite talent in today's NBA than SG has ever had in any era.

You have an agenda and it's easily detected.

[Klay 3D]

http://thunder.clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/chris-paul-kevin-durant.jpg
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0509/nba_g_durpaul_cr_288x410.jpg
http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/nba-feet-lebron-cp3-04.jpg
http://media.nola.com/hornets_impact/photo/8665013-large.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kobe-bryant-of-the-los-angeles-lakers-is-defended-by-chris-paul-of-picture-id519485412

[Snarky Narc]

Post it again. I haven't seen your mugshot. Ok. I now believe that you are Black.
Told you that you are a racist.

[stalkerforlife]

Why are you posting pictures of Paul guarding players? You can capture pictures of just last year when Curry was guarding Bran in the finals and stopping him from scoring.

Random pictures are meaningless.

[tpols]

this is dumb logic. its a reason sports is like chess. You gotta know where to put your pieces IF you want to win. Now if you don't want to win...SURE let curry guard westbrook....hell let curry guard Durant..that would be awesome


OP wants a WWE cage match with Curry and Westbrook.

[Klay 3D]

Why are you posting pictures of Paul guarding players? You can capture pictures of just last year when Curry was guarding Bran in the finals and stopping him from scoring.

Random pictures are meaningless.
CP3 actually guarded them on a play by play basis.

[miggyme1]

http://thunder.clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/chris-paul-kevin-durant.jpg
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0509/nba_g_durpaul_cr_288x410.jpg
http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/nba-feet-lebron-cp3-04.jpg
http://media.nola.com/hornets_impact/photo/8665013-large.jpg
http://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2012%2F0327%2Fla_g_paul-bryant01jr_576.jpg


don't sit here and act like cp3 guards those dudes every game all game.smh....put cp3 on LeBron for a whole series and watch what happens.

Im sure you can find some pics of cp3 guarding payers bigger than them......FOR A POSSESSION.smh

[stalkerforlife]

CP3 actually guarded them on a play by play basis.

Paul has never guarded Bran or Durant for an entire game.

He gets switched onto them through pick and rolls.

[Snarky Narc]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0509/nba_g_durpaul_cr_288x410.jpg
http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/nba-feet-lebron-cp3-04.jpg
http://media.nola.com/hornets_impact/photo/8665013-large.jpg

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kevin-durant-of-the-oklahoma-city-thunder-is-guarded-by-stephen-curry-picture-id515819924

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2015/1224/20151224__SJM-THOMPSON-1225-02~1.JPG

http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2016/03/USATSI_9162114-1-450x307.jpg

[tpols]

Jordan guarded his POSITION. When did you ever see him hiding from his positional matchup?

I wouldn't go as far as the thread title but I can't respect you as a DEFENDER if you don't take the challenge and guard star players at your position in most instances.

Someone brought up Chris Paul, he's like the only star PG who is COMPETITIVE enough and prideful enough of his defense to take the challenge and guard the other elite players every night. Once in a while he'll get cooked, that happens at times, but at least he doesn't hide. How cowardly would it look if they put JJ Redick or Austin Rivers on Curry/Westbrook/Lillard, etc while he saves energy for offense?


jj reddick and rivers are nowhere near level of defenders as klay so thats a non point. If tony allen or something was on the clippers theyd be throwing him at westbrook too.

[Young X]

Easy to state this when there were clearly no all time great talents at his position during his reign. (Maybe Drexler) It isn't true because I have seen other players guarding Hornacek for instance, but whatever. The PG position has far more elite talent in today's NBA than SG has ever had in any era.

You have an agenda and it's easily detected.Drexler, Miller, Richmond were all great, HOF players/scorers. Jordan guarded those guys. He was too prideful and competitive to not go up against his best matchups. It looks SOFT when guys hide on defense I'm sorry.

[hold this L]

Did you watch the game just last night?

Curry was on Westbrook a lot.

Do you think Jordan guarded the opposing team's best player at all times? Or did Pippen sometimes take the assignment?
I don't get this. Klay and Curry take turns guarding star players so both players have good energy offensively, it's a good strategy by Kerr. You can't have it both ways when a star plays very well, Curry plays no defense & the opposite it's only because Klay guarded him.. when they share defensive duties on star PG 50-50. :facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

Hi Justin

Hi handsome. :cheers:

[sportjames23]

And Lebron23, WTF is wrong with you? Why would someone pretend to be a different race than they are?

Calm your little brown ass down, son.

:roll: :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Drexler, Miller, Richmond were all great, HOF players/scorers. Jordan guarded those guys. He was too prideful and competitive to not go up against his best matchups. It looks SOFT when guys hide on defense I'm sorry.

I simply typed in "Reggie vs the Bulls" on youtube and this is the first thing that came up...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYl2PnvknQ

Harper was the primary defender while Jordan was on the floor in the very first video I watched.

Just be real.

[Klay 3D]

Paul has never guarded Bran or Durant for an entire game.

He gets switched onto them through pick and rolls.
Not an entire game because that would be foolish, but don't you remember the ~20pt come back in the playoffs when CP3 was guarding KD in the 4th? I'm saying CP3 does get those assignments sometimes because he very capable even if it's just for a few minutes. He can hold his ground with a strong low center of gravity. No knock on Curry cause everyone has their own game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-EYCDbIUxs

[Young X]

jj reddick and rivers are nowhere near level of defenders as klay so thats a non point. If tony allen or something was on the clippers theyd be throwing him at westbrook too.Same goes for Thompson and Allen. Thompson is a good on-ball defender. Allen is one of the best defenders in the league and almost as good as anybody on the perimeter in NBA history.

If Curry really is a good defender, the dropoff from Thompson to him shouldn't be enough to where he lets Thompson handle his assignments half of the time. If HE doesn't believe in his defense why should I?


I simply typed in "Reggie vs the Bulls" on youtube and this is the first thing that came up...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYl2PnvknQ

Harper was the primary defender while Jordan was on the floor in the very first video I watched.

Just be real.One highlight video, really? Jordan shut Miller down in the 4th quarter of game 7 in that same series.

[stalkerforlife]

Same goes for Thompson and Allen. Thompson is a good on-ball defender. Allen is one of the best defenders in the league and almost as good as anybody on the perimeter in NBA history.

If Curry really is a good defender, the dropoff from Thompson to him shouldn't be enough to where he lets Thompson handle his assignments half of the time. If HE doesn't believe in his defense why should I?

One highlight video, really? Jordan shut Miller down in the 4th quarter of game 7 in that same series.

One 4th quarter, really?

Like I said...this was the very first video that popped up. I didn't cherry pick. And i'm sure a lot of the videos will be similar.

[GimmeThat]

body someone up for no reason, in order for someone to have to go for a different direction.

if you can't body someone up for no reason, then you're gambling that he is not someone who makes an impact, by the time it's shameful to do it.

If you go by quarters, how many shots are taken per team, and who's taking them

A Guard can not play defense and play on the floor, all it takes is the ability get the defensive rebound on the weakside position.

[Bankaii]

I'm glad someone else said it.
Curry is the only player in history where we ignore half the game just because he isn't good at it.
Some of the excuses I've heard to cover up Curry being hidden on defense are ridiculous. Dude is just a liability, period.

[iamgine]

Curry is a good man to man defender and excellent help defender for a point guard.

Klay is just a better defender so he gets the assignment of guarding the stars.

It's okay not to respect that but don't make the mistake of thinking Curry is a bad defender.

[konex]

I'm glad someone else said it.
Curry is the only player in history where we ignore half the game just because he isn't good at it.
Some of the excuses I've heard to cover up Curry being hidden on defense are ridiculous. Dude is just a liability, period.

To be fair, Nash was even worse

[stalkerforlife]

To be fair, Nash was even worse

Ya think? :lol

[Bankaii]

To be fair, Nash was even worse
Yea but he gets called out for it.
Curry's not a bad defender he's at least average but people excuse him getting hidden on defense.

[konex]

Do you fully respect Kobe? He rarely guarded Ray Allen and instead Fisher was relegated to chasing him.

Kobe mostly guarded Rondo and basically played safety.

Kobe guarded Rondo because no one else on the team could stop his penetration

[LAZERUSS]

The Chokurry Zone...

[konex]

I'll say this. Curry took the challenge for long stretches of this series but he's been shat on. I seriously doubt they start game 5 with him on Russ