Comparing Curry and Kobe Year-for-Year

[ArbitraryWater]

2010 Curry > 1997 Bryant (18/5/6 on 46%FG 57% TS)
2011 Curry > 1998 Bryant (19/6 on 48%FG 60% TS)
2013 Curry > 2000 Bryant (23/7 on 45% FG 59% TS)
2001 Bryant > 2014 Curry (29/7/6 47% FG 56% TS Playoffs)
2015 Curry >> 2002 Bryant (28/6 on 46% FG 61% TS Playoffs)
2016 Curry > 2003 Bryant (30/7 on 50% FG 67% TS)


I'd argue this path will be continued until we hit Kobe's '09-'10 years. Not looking good all-time for Bean, though.

[brownmamba00]

Lol

[MEB2kDeez]

Lol

[Foster5k]

Iggy>

[NBAGOAT]

come on OP, Curry's 28, Kobe was 24 in 03. Doubtful Curry has better longevity. Curry will need around 7 top 5 level years(to match Kobe 04-10) before you can argue he's had a better career than Kobe. Even as a shooter, that's not going be easy.

[ArbitraryWater]

come on OP, Curry's 28, Kobe was 24 in 03. Doubtful Curry has better longevity. Curry will need around 7 top 5 level years(to match Kobe 04-10) before you can argue he's had a better career than Kobe. Even as a shooter, that's not going be easy.

Of course, he has to continue this for a bit.. few more of these 2016 seasons though and its looking good. Thats a level Kobe never matched.

[NBAGOAT]

Of course, he has to continue this for a bit.. few more of these 2016 seasons though and its looking good. Thats a level Kobe never matched.

true for 2016 but I don't see him being able to play that well the next few seasons(MVP's should be np). Even someone like Shaq has one year stand out above the rest in 00.

[ArbitraryWater]

true for 2016 but I don't see him being able to play that well the next few seasons(MVP's should be np). Even someone like Shaq has one year stand out above the rest in 00.

Eh, Shaq was pretty much the same in 2001... arguably even better in the post-season.

I feel guys like MJ, Shaq, Bron, etc. have that one peak years, and then one on pretty much that exact same level (MJ '90/'91, even '92 still, Shaq '00/'01, and for LeBron whether you feel its '09/'10 or '12/'13).

[ImKobe]

lol what

let's compare them same age

21 Kobe 23/6/5 > Curry 18/5/6
22 Kobe 29/6/5 > Curry 19/4/6
23 Kobe 25/6/6 > Curry 19/4/7
24 Kobe 30/7/6 > Curry 23/4/7
25 Kobe 24/6/5 = Curry 24/4/9
26 Kobe 35/5/5 > Curry 24/4/8
27 Kobe 32/6/5 = Curry 30/5/7

And Kobe's Playoff numbers dwarf Curry's. Curry has 1 title to Kobe's 3, Curry has 2 RS MVPs but only 1 title and didn't get a vote over Andre Iguodala :kobe:

[ArbitraryWater]

lol what

let's compare them same age

21 Kobe 23/6/5 > Curry 18/5/6
22 Kobe 29/6/5 > Curry 19/4/6
23 Kobe 25/6/6 > Curry 19/4/7
24 Kobe 30/7/6 > Curry 23/4/7
25 Kobe 24/6/5 = Curry 24/4/9
26 Kobe 35/5/5 > Curry 24/4/8
27 Kobe 32/6/5 = Curry 30/5/7

And Kobe's Playoff numbers dwarf Curry's.

I did year for year :cheers:

any year in the OP you disagree with?

Btw, you just put '07 Kobe on the same level as '16 Curry.. and '05 Kobe as '14 Curry.. just a heads up. Or you left '05 out, not sure.

[SamuraiSWISH]

No. Because defense counts too. Just not to baseball esque Stat geeks.

2000 Kobe > 2013 Curry
2002 Kobe > 2015 Curry
2016 Curry = 2003 Kobe, even then I take Kobe because of defense

2002 Kobe can win a ring with the 2015 Warriors in place of Steph. So can 2003 Kobe in place of this year's blistering next level Steph. He provides same PPG yet superior versatility on offense and especially defense.

Warriors have another guard who puts up 22 PPG on great percentage with very good defense.

And a SG / PF combo front man putting up 15 PPG, 10 RPG, and 7 APG.

If Kobe needed to distribute and play the PG role, he could. Or play off ball. Just like Steph with more size.

[ImKobe]

I did year for year :cheers:

any year in the OP you disagree with?

Btw, you just put '07 Kobe on the same level as '16 Curry.. just a heads up.

You're saying prime Kobe is not as good as prime Curry?

Curry is more efficient as a scorer while Kobe is the better defender

I disagree with comparing 21 yr old Curry to 18 yr old Kobe :confusedshrug: You put them at same age and Kobe had better years for most of his career, you can argue that Curry's 2016 season is better but I'm still taking the guy that dropped 81 and outscored a Finals team in 3 quarters. Sorry.

[fiddy]

2010 Curry > 1997 Bryant (18/5/6 on 46%FG 57% TS)
2011 Curry > 1998 Bryant (19/6 on 48%FG 60% TS)
2013 Curry > 2000 Bryant (23/7 on 45% FG 59% TS)
2001 Bryant > 2014 Curry (29/7/6 47% FG 56% TS Playoffs)
2015 Curry >> 2002 Bryant (28/6 on 46% FG 61% TS Playoffs)
2016 Curry > 2003 Bryant (30/7 on 50% FG 67% TS)


I'd argue this path will be continued until we hit Kobe's '09-'10 years. Not looking good all-time for Bean, though.
:facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

No. Because defense counts too. Not just to baseball esque Stat geeks.

2000 Kobe > 2013 Curry
2002 Kobe > 2015 Curry
2016 Curry = 2003 Kobe, even then I take Kobe got defense

2002 Kobe can win a ring with the 2015 Warriors in place of Steph. So can 2003 Kobe in place of this year's blistering next level Steph. He provides same PPG yet superior versatility on offense and especially defense.

Defense is involved :cheers:

2000 Kobe over 2013 Curry? Way too hot/cold scoring wise, too much of an egomaniac, and 4/20 threat, for Curry's lights out shooting.

2015 Curry is an MVP level player lol, 2002 Kobe is not.

Kobe isn't winning a ring with this year's Warriors against this year's competition...

he was never this good, frankly.

#1 PPG
#1 TS%
#1 PER
#1 WS + WS/48
#1 RPM
#1 BPM

Kobe's peak is a good level or so below this offensive perfection.

The Warriors' offense wouldnt work as well without Curry's gravity, shooting, dribbling and spacing... Kobe would stagnate it, if anything. Take away their biggest strength.

No dominant interior big. Kobe works best with someone who can rebound some of his misses, to make up for the lack of raw FG% and 'me first' offense.

[ArbitraryWater]

You're saying prime Kobe is not as good as prime Curry?

Curry is more efficient as a scorer while Kobe is the better defender

I disagree with comparing 21 yr old Curry to 18 yr old Kobe :confusedshrug: You put them at same age and Kobe had better years for most of his career, you can argue that Curry's 2016 season is better but I'm still taking the guy that dropped 81 and outscored a Finals team in 3 quarters. Sorry.

Wait, I dont follow, which seasons do you agree with or not? Straight up answer and reasonate if you disagree, dont answer questions with more blabber questions :cheers:

[ImKobe]

Wait, I dont follow, which seasons do you agree with or not? Straight up answer and reasonate if you disagree, dont answer questions with more blabber questions :cheers:

I don't agree with you comparing players at different ages, Kobe at the same age as Curry was far ahead the better player.

[fiddy]

I don't agree with you comparing players at different ages, Kobe at the same age as Curry was far ahead the better player.
Mehmet has no clue what he's talkig about, by the time 2/3 of Kobe's career had passed, he was still pissing his pants.

[ArbitraryWater]

I don't agree with you comparing players at different ages, Kobe at the same age as Curry was far ahead the better player.

okay, so if you had to do season for season, no disagreements yet? Trust in Kobe fam lifted by a percent :cheers:

[stalkerforlife]

I really hope my boy Curry can surpass Kobe all time.

Most Kobe fans want Curry to succeed because he has actual talent that took hard work to achieve. He wasn't made by the media or the NBA.

:cheers:

[ImKobe]

okay, so if you had to do season for season, no disagreements yet? Trust in Kobe fam lifted by a percent :cheers:

Kobe age 21-28 > Curry age 21-28


Kobe 28/6/5 24.7 PER
Curry 22/4/7 23.2 PER

simple as that man. Curry also missed the Playoffs 3 out of the 7 years he's been in the league.

[tpols]

curry is in the kobe fam bro.. both impeccable skilled players passing torch :rockon:


bran stans cant talk curry.. they are pure opposites. stop it

[TheMarkMadsen]

Conference finals going on and OP is creating threads about Kobe

:roll: :roll:

[HOoopCityJones]

Conference finals going on and OP is creating threads about Kobe

:roll: :roll:

Aw in a nutshell.

[ImKobe]

Conference finals going on and OP is creating threads about Kobe

:roll: :roll:

Kobe was the best player of last year's decade, Curry is making a case for best player of this decade

It's nothing different from Kobe fans comparing Kobe to MJ when Kobe was winning titles :cheers:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Aw in a nutshell.


Lebron stans bring up Kobe for no reason in other threads too.

It's hilarious :lol :lol

[LAZERUSS]

Chokurry has had TWO seasons in which he was even remotely close to Kobe. And in both of them his roster was good enough to win 60+ games without him. In fact, they have played better in this post-season without the defenseless one. Furthermore, Kobe never lost a FMVP to a teammate who was a role player coming off the bench. Kobe's best Finals just blow away Chokurry's only Finals by a HUGE margin. And since Feeble believes that scoring is the only stat that matters...well, Kobe's best were LIGHT YEARS better than the Fragile One's.

And given ZERO's track record of fragility, the rest of his career days are numbered, too. He might be delivering pizzas in a couple of years.

[Disaprine]

Conference finals going on and OP is creating threads about Kobe

:roll: :roll:
:lol

[Smoke117]

Lebron stans bring up Kobe for no reason in other threads too.

It's hilarious :lol :lol

All you do is bitch about lebron...you dumb ****ing moron.

[elementally morale]

Curry is not as good as peak Kobe was. On defense you can't even compare the two. On offense, it's closer but I'd still give the nod to Bryant.

[Mr Feeny]

You're saying prime Kobe is not as good as prime Curry?

Curry is more efficient as a scorer while Kobe is the better defender

I disagree with comparing 21 yr old Curry to 18 yr old Kobe :confusedshrug: You put them at same age and Kobe had better years for most of his career, you can argue that Curry's 2016 season is better but I'm still taking the guy that dropped 81 and outscored a Finals team in 3 quarters. Sorry.

That's exactly what he's saying and he's right. Anybody who understands basketball sees a giant gulf in class. No version of Kobe was anywhere near as good as 2015-2016 Curry is.

[elementally morale]

That's exactly what he's saying and he's right. Anybody who understands basketball sees a giant gulf in class. No version of Kobe was anywhere near as good as 2015-2016 Curry is.

Well, I think both peak LeBron and peak Kobe were better than any version of Curry I've seen so far. And I really like Steph.

[NBAGOAT]

Well, I think both peak LeBron and peak Kobe were better than any version of Curry I've seen so far. And I really like Steph.

I disagree. Steph was legitimately getting comparisons to guys like peak Tmac last year who's roughly at Kobe's level peak wise. Curry was much better this year. I think he's clearly better than peak Kobe and would even say he's better than peak Duncan or KG which is ridiculous.

[Smoke117]

Curry is not as good as peak Kobe was. On defense you can't even compare the two. On offense, it's closer but I'd still give the nod to Bryant.

Actually their impact is pretty similar...in that they are both decent, but not especially impactful defensive players game in game out.

[elementally morale]

I disagree. Steph was legitimately getting comparisons to guys like peak Tmac last year who's roughly at Kobe's level peak wise. Curry was much better this year. I think he's clearly better than peak Kobe and would even say he's better than peak Duncan or KG which is ridiculous.

He is spectacular. But 2003 or 2006 or 2009 Kobe? He was better for different reasons each season. At any rate, I do think Curry has the potential to become better and to go down as the better player by the time he hangs it up.

It's not a good time to listen to the media this year, last or next. The media lives in the present and has many good reasons to sell Curry as the best thing since sliced bread. (Did the same with LeBron, btw.)

In big games that actually count a lot I have yet to see Curry taking over like LeBron or Kobe (or Duncan, Shaq or even Dirk and Wade) have.

When defenses collapse on Steph, he is not as good as these guys (Kobe or LeBron or Shaq) were.

I don't like LeBron. Never have been a big fan of Shaq. And I do like Curry. But still.

[elementally morale]

Actually their impact is pretty similar...in that they are both decent, but not especially impactful defensive players game in game out.

Curry was never a good defender. Bryant was. The number of all defensive teams he got on was going overboard, especially the last few years he was all defense any team. But until like 2010 Kobe was a better defender than any form of Curry I've seen.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Listen I love Curry and what he's doing for the game. Absolute dominance as a little, rather pedestrian and non hyper elite athletic point guard. He was great last year, and raised his game to legendary all timer status this season.

But NO ONE with a sane and knowledgeable opinion of the game would say even this season that he's better than the following:

2001 Kobe
2003 Kobe
2006 Kobe
2007 Kobe
2008 Kobe
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe

Kobe was just more skilled, or more productive or more versatile and easily light years more impactful or important defensively to even insinuate current Steph is the better player.

Sidenote

2016 Curry > 2002 Kobe > 2015 Curry = 2000 Kobe

[elementally morale]

Listen I love Curry and what he's doing for the game. Absolute dominance as a little, rather pedestrian and non hyper elite athletic point guard. He was great last year, and raised his game to legendary all timer status this season.

But NO ONE with a sane and knowledgeable opinion of the game would say even this season that he's better than the following:

2001 Kobe
2003 Kobe
2006 Kobe
2007 Kobe
2008 Kobe
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe

Kobe was just more skilled, or more productive or more versatile and easily light years more impactful or important defensively to even insinuate current Steph is the better player.

Sidenote

2016 Curry > 2002 Kobe > 2015 Curry = 2000 Kobe

I think Curry this season was better than 2001 and better than or equal to 2010 Kobe. But Kobe at his best was better. In 2003, 2006 and 2009 much better.

However, most of the current board are way too young to have seen 2003 or even 2006 Kobe live.

[NBAGOAT]

I think Curry this season was better than 2001 and better than or equal to 2010 Kobe. But Kobe at his best was better. In 2003, 2006 and 2009 much better.

However, most of the current board are way too young to have seen 2003 or even 2006 Kobe live.

I saw both. Curry's just so damn efficient however, he rarely has poor shooting games and it helps that going 7/20 can still be decently efficient since most of those makes are 3's. Kobe had insane games ofc but he also had bad games even in 06 when he was scoring at will. Also leading a team to 73 wins is just impressive, that's 23 wins more than the shaq/kobe lakers in 03. That's a huge difference.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I think Curry this season was better than 2001 and better than or equal to 2010 Kobe. But Kobe at his best was better. In 2003, 2006 and 2009 much better.

However, most of the current board are way too young to have seen 2003 or even 2006 Kobe live.
If you want to boil it down to just 2003, 2006 - 2009 Kobe ... fine. Btw where's the love for 2007 and 2008? Either way ... that's a long time Kobe was at least as good or better. You're sleeping on 2001 though. 29/6/5 plus ELITE defense.

[elementally morale]

I saw both. Curry's just so damn efficient however, he rarely has poor shooting games and it helps that going 7/20 can still be decently efficient since most of those makes are 3's. Kobe had insane games ofc but he also had bad games even in 06 when he was scoring at will. Also leading a team to 73 wins is just impressive, that's 23 wins more than the shaq/kobe lakers in 03. That's a huge difference.


I think I need to see very important games like this one tonight when Curry takes over and wills his team to win. I don't mind him shooting bad. The thing I'm not seeing is the will. to win at all costs.

Curry (whom I like) seems like someone who loves to play but doesn't really like to die on the floor trying. I wish he did.

[elementally morale]

If you want to boil it down to just 2003, 2006 - 2009 Kobe ... fine. Btw where's the love for 2007 and 2008? Either way ... that's a long time Kobe was at least as good or better. You're sleeping on 2001 though. 29/6/5 plus ELITE defense.

I just picked 3 years I think are his best years.

[NBAGOAT]

I think I need to see very important games like this one tonight when Curry takes over and wills his team to win. I don't mind him shooting bad. The thing I'm not seeing is the will. to win at all costs.

Curry (whom I like) seems like someone who loves to play but doesn't really like to die on the floor trying. I wish he did.

I say Kobe's top 4 peak years are 03,06,08, and 09. The only year from those he won a title was 09. Also why not charcaterize Curry as more unselfish than Kobe, being that aggressive isn't all positive.

[ArbitraryWater]

Listen I love Curry and what he's doing for the game. Absolute dominance as a little, rather pedestrian and non hyper elite athletic point guard. He was great last year, and raised his game to legendary all timer status this season.

But NO ONE with a sane and knowledgeable opinion of the game would say even this season that he's better than the following:

2001 Kobe
2003 Kobe
2006 Kobe
2007 Kobe
2008 Kobe
2009 Kobe
2010 Kobe

Kobe was just more skilled, or more productive or more versatile and easily light years more impactful or important defensively to even insinuate current Steph is the better player.

Sidenote

2016 Curry > 2002 Kobe > 2015 Curry = 2000 Kobe


You are WAY too mind****ed... WHAT THE **** :oldlol:

Curry is MILES more productive, efficient, and LIGHT YEARS more impactful.... higher PER, Win Shares, BPM, than Kobe, EVER.....

Its not even close.

[elementally morale]

I say Kobe's top 4 peak years are 03,06,08, and 09. The only year from those he won a title was 09. Also why not charcaterize Curry as more unselfish than Kobe, being that aggressive isn't all positive.

Well, I'm a Kobe fan. I'll give you that. Still, I love to see players die trying even when their games are off. That's a quality I miss in Curry. He is too nice. You can give away a game here and there being too agressive but I want to see my best player giving it his all. Curry just doesn't do that.

Curry plays better the better he does. It is very rare I see him elevate his game on an off night like (for example) Westbrook. Kobe is in a different universe in this regard.

[ArbitraryWater]

Curry is not as good as peak Kobe was. On defense you can't even compare the two. On offense, it's closer but I'd still give the nod to Bryant.

you think Kobe is a better offensive player than Curry??








































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[elementally morale]

you think Kobe is a better offensive player than Curry??

Yes I do. But relax, I would also have peak LeBron on my team instead of Curry even though I don't like LeBron's game at all.

Curry is spectacular and I really like the guy. But I'm not sure I'd trade him for peak Steve Nash. When Curry's shooting is off you have almost nothing left.