Kobe went 15-1 in the 2001 NBA Playoffs.

[BigBoss]

Facts only.

LeBald has twice as many losses this post-season.

Facts only.

2 for 7.

#striveforgreatness

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

why couldnt Bones finish Ovince Saint Scrub:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Prime_Shaq]

So did Shaq.

[BigBoss]

why couldnt Bones finish Ovince Saint Scrub:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

STFU!

[AintNoSunshine]

Shaq went 15-1, Kobe simply rode along.

[BigBoss]

Shaq went 15-1, Kobe simply rode along.

Shaq works for TNT lol

[Marchesk]

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[Stringer Bell]

The Lakers were in a zone in that postseason. It was the weakest of the 3-peat teams during the regular season, but by far the best of the postseason teams.

The 2000 and 2002 Lakers needed great comebacks and last second shots to make the finals.

I give Kobe more credit than those who say he was replaceable and that any good wing player would have won playing with Shaq, as the 2000 and 2002 teams were so close to being eliminated and Kobe had some big performances then.

I suppose you can argue that it was a chemistry thing and another good perimeter player may have meshed better and they wouldn't have been so close to being eliminated in the WCF, but I think Kobe was a very important #2 option on the team. The guy was a top 5 player in the NBA (for 01' and 02' not 00') while being 2nd best on the team.


Shaq went 15-1, Kobe simply rode along.

Kobe still came up big in that postseason, even though Shaq was still the main guy.

His game 1 against the Spurs was one of his best games ever.

[ImKobe]

Shaq went 15-1, Kobe simply rode along.

Kobe averaged 32 ppg in their 11 straight wins on 49% shooting and led the 2001 Lakers in winshares and +/-, lol.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Kobe averaged 32 ppg in their 11 straight wins on 49% shooting and led the 2001 Lakers in winshares and +/-, lol.
win shares:biggums: :biggums: u really goin there nikka:biggums: :biggums:

[jstern]

The only thing is that teams were triple teaming Shaq. Not only that, but getting personnel to have enough bodies to foul Shaq just in case they met the Lakers in the playoffs. He was too dominant.

[Shih508]

Kobe was only the 3rd best player behind Shaq and AI that year:roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

win shares:biggums: :biggums: u really goin there nikka:biggums: :biggums:

leading the team in scoring on the road and having b2b 45+ point 10+ rebound games and averaging 32 ppg against Blazers, Kings and Spurs wasn't enough for some people. Apparently that constitutes as just riding along for the title like he's Brian Shaw or Robert Horry.

[ImKobe]

The only thing is that teams were triple teaming Shaq. Not only that, but getting personnel to have enough bodies to foul Shaq just in case they met the Lakers in the playoffs. He was too dominant.

So you want to tell me that opposing teams used their PG/SG and SF to guard Shaq? Kobe was just wide open from the perimeter like Lebron in the 2013 Finals?

Truth is that he wasn't triple teamed. Truth is that teams with two legitimate bigs (Blazers, Kings, Spurs) could keep Shaq from getting easy looks. The 2000-2002 Lakers weren't loaded with snipers, they look pretty bad outside Shaq and Kobe, who scored about 60% of their points in most games.

You can stop with the bullshit that Kobe's production stems from Shaq being the main focus of the opposing defenses when you know damn well he played just as great without Shaq, how come he could put up 35 ppg for a whole season with him being the only offensive threat on his team?

Can't believe people are still this uneducated.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

The only thing is that teams were triple teaming Shaq. Not only that, but getting personnel to have enough bodies to foul Shaq just in case they met the Lakers in the playoffs. He was too dominant.
This is a myth. Shaq wasnt facing more defensive attention than Kobe in the western conference. Definitely more against Philly tho

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

leading the team in scoring on the road and having b2b 45+ point 10+ rebound games and averaging 32 ppg against Blazers, Kings and Spurs wasn't enough for some people. Apparently that constitutes as just riding along for the title like he's Brian Shaw or Robert Horry.

Horry played great D on Timmy. His length really bothered him. He was much better than Grant who Timmy did well against since his power didnt do much. Horry shut Timmy down in game 3. Spurs scored 72, Kobe and Shaq scored 71:oldlol: :oldlol:

I honestly think DFish was underrated. Lakers never played that good without him in the RS. He shoot a stupid like 75 percent from 3 in the WCF. He managed Shaq and Kobe, played solid D on Iverson. Clutch shooting and leadership against Blazers/Kings too

[ImKobe]

This is a myth. Shaq wasnt facing more defensive attention than Kobe in the western conference. Definitely more against Philly tho

I think the problem the Pacers, Philly and Nets had was that they didn't have two bigs to throw at Shaq at the same time like the WC teams did. So they gave Kobe more attention in hopes of pressuring him into turnovers/bad shots because they couldn't stop Shaq if they tried.

There's a reason why Blazers, Kings and Spurs were the only teams to really give the Lakers any trouble. Blazers had Sabonis and Sheed, Kings had Webber and Divac, Spurs had D-Rob and Duncan.

Pacers only had Smits(who averaged 5 rebounds that year :oldlol:), Philly only had Mutombo, Nets didn't have a single 7-footer other than Jason Collins to throw at Shaq, Kidd and Van Horn were their leading rebounders :oldlol:

So obviously those teams focused on stopping Kobe and if Shaq got a great look they tried to foul him, I remember him having 39 FTA in one of those games against the Pacers


Horry played great D on Timmy. His length really bothered him. He was much better than Grant who Timmy did well against since his power didnt do much. Horry shut Timmy down in game 3. Spurs scored 72, Kobe and Shaq scored 71:oldlol: :oldlol:

I honestly think DFish was underrated. Lakers never played that good without him in the RS. He shoot a stupid like 75 percent from 3 in the WCF. He managed Shaq and Kobe, played solid D on Iverson. Clutch shooting and leadership against Blazers/Kings too

They did their job during the 3-peat but they weren't asked to do that much other than space the floor and play some defense. Both hit some big shots but they never really carried a big load on the offensive end, didn't have to.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

I think the problem the Pacers, Philly and Nets had was that they didn't have two bigs to throw at Shaq at the same time like the WC teams did. So they gave Kobe more attention in hopes of pressuring him into turnovers/bad shots because they couldn't stop Shaq if they tried.

There's a reason why Blazers, Kings and Spurs were the only teams to really give the Lakers any trouble. Blazers had Sabonis and Sheed, Kings had Webber and Divac, Spurs had D-Rob and Duncan.

Pacers only had Smits(who averaged 5 rebounds that year :oldlol:), Philly only had Mutombo, Nets didn't have a single 7-footer other than Jason Collins to throw at Shaq, Kidd and Van Horn were their leading rebounders :oldlol:

So obviously those teams focused on stopping Kobe and if Shaq got a great look they tried to foul him, I remember him having 39 FTA in one of those games against the Pacers



They did their job during the 3-peat but they weren't asked to do that much other than space the floor and play some defense. Both hit some big shots but they never really carried a big load on the offensive end, didn't have to.


Yeah i meant on defense mainly + 2 of the clutchest role players ever with the big shots

On offense it was like 90% Kobe/Shaq

[Kiddlovesnets]

Well Shaq went 15-1 in 2011 NBA Playoffs, it was essentially Shaq's one man show.

[jstern]

Shaq was just too dominant. Especially in the Finals.

[bigkingsfan]

Because that's how history will remember it...

[Bosnian Sajo]

The only thing is that teams were triple teaming Shaq. Not only that, but getting personnel to have enough bodies to foul Shaq just in case they met the Lakers in the playoffs. He was too dominant.

No the **** he wasn't, stop making shit up. He was dominant, but he was never triple teamed dude. This is the NBA, you're not gonna leave 2 guys wide open just to triple team one guy :rolleyes:

[Bosnian Sajo]

Well Shaq went 15-1 in 2011 NBA Playoffs, it was essentially Shaq's one man show.


Weird, I could of sworn he only played 2 playoff games that year.

[Im Still Ballin]

Shaq was routinely getting QUAD-teamed

[Prime_Shaq]

Weird, I could of sworn he only played 2 playoff games that year.
What are you talking about?

[Snarky Narc]

Shaq went 15-1, Kobe simply rode along.
Shaq was a beast.

[toprange]

Facts only.

LeBald has twice as many losses this post-season.

Facts only.

2 for 7.

#striveforgreatness

and lebron riding irving for those 10 straight wins :lol :lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

What are you talking about?

Shaq in 2011, did you not read the person who I quoted? :hammerhead:

[Prime_Shaq]

Shaq in 2011, did you not read the person who I quoted? :hammerhead:
Oh damn :lol

[Knoe Itawl]

Kobe averaged 32 ppg in their 11 straight wins on 49% shooting and led the 2001 Lakers in winshares and +/-, lol.

Dude, Kobe is one of the top 13-15 or so players of all time, and a perimeter oriented offensive specialist. You don't think the attention paid to arguably the most dominant low post player of all time will benefit that type of player maybe a teensy eensy little bit?

This is the problem with stans like you. You're smart enough to know that it's basic basketball that the interior, when manned by a low post beast, is going to draw the most attention and that perimeter players as a result will benefit significantly. Since you're a nauseating stan, however, you won't admit it and instead refuse to provide any context to the numbers.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Kobe was the best player for all 5 of his championships too.

-Stanley

[ImKobe]

Dude, Kobe is one of the top 13-15 or so players of all time, and a perimeter oriented offensive specialist. You don't think the attention paid to arguably the most dominant low post player of all time will benefit that type of player maybe a teensy eensy little bit?

This is the problem with stans like you. You're smart enough to know that it's basic basketball that the interior, when manned by a low post beast, is going to draw the most attention and that perimeter players as a result will benefit significantly. Since you're a nauseating stan, however, you won't admit it and instead refuse to provide any context to the numbers.

Who's shit alt are you?

Watch the games and tell me that Kobe wasn't being defended. Stop making shit posts with your shit alts with your backhanded compliments. Every all-time great that won titles benefited from the team around them.

Kobe only had Shaq, the rest of the team was role players
Duncan had Manu, Parker, Kawhi
Lebron had Wade, Bosh, Allen
Steph has Klay, Green, Iggy, Bogut

So Kobe doesn't get credit for winning a title while putting up superstar numbers but every other player does? Magic had a 38 year old Kareem win a Finals MVP over him when Magic was in his prime, does that mean he was carried by Kareem?

Use your brain and stop posting the same nonsense with all of your alts, it only makes you look worse.

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe's 2001 playoff run is the most underrated run of all time due to him playing next to Shaq.

Another reason Kobe is easily a top 5 player of all time.

[Mr. Jabbar]

#neverforget

[dazzer87]

Kobe went 15-1 as the 2nd option.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Kobe went 15-1 as the 2nd option.

Lebron went 10-0 as the 3rd option

[ImKobe]

Kobe went 15-1 as the 2nd option.

Didn't know 2nd options led the team in field goal attempts and assists.

[jstern]

15-1 and didn't win Finals MVP, while not being the main focus of the defense. For other players wouldn't that be an *?

[Hey Yo]

I think the problem the Pacers, Philly and Nets had was that they didn't have two bigs to throw at Shaq at the same time like the WC teams did. So they gave Kobe more attention in hopes of pressuring him into turnovers/bad shots because they couldn't stop Shaq if they tried.
:oldlol: .............. :facepalm



So obviously those teams focused on stopping Kobe and if Shaq got a great look they tried to foul him, I remember him having 39 FTA in one of those games against the Pacers
:oldlol: ..............:facepalm

[choppermagic]

Didn't know 2nd options led the team in field goal attempts and assists.


And closed out games. Kobe wasn't a liability at the FT line or hacking defences.

[HurricaneKid]

This is a myth. Shaq wasnt facing more defensive attention than Kobe in the western conference. Definitely more against Philly tho

And you know this because you were 2 at the time? GTFO. Kobe was great in the 01 postseason but pretending that Shaq, at the height of his powers, wasn't fundamentally changing what defenses did is the kind of idiocy a 2 year old comes up with.

[Aiolos]

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[TheMarkMadsen]

01 Kobe led the lakers in scoring and assist through their 11-0 conference finals run. Led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring & 2nd half playoff scoring. Had the highest (+/-) of all time while Shaq was a net negative (stupid stat but Lebron stans use this all the time) had b2b series averaging 35/9/4 and 33/7/7, led the team in assist for the entire playoffs had Phil Jackson saying shit like this



"I've always held the bar up very high for Kobe and he's not only reached that bar, but he's jumping over the top of it right now," Phil Jackson said. "It's the best that I've seen a player of mine play with an overall court game."


"I never asked Michael to be a playmaker," Jackson said. "That's the greatest player I ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game. Yet I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be a playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. Kobe has to set up the offense, read the defense, make others happy and he's doing a great job of it. Kobe has become the floor leader on a basketball team that was looking for that player who can not only be a scorer, but also be a playmaker who can consistently make big plays at critical times. It was very important for Kobe to step into that role he was envisioned at."

While averaging 29/7/6/2/1 for the entire playoffs and these bitter ass haters still don't want to give him any credit.

MEANWHILE ON ISH LAST WEEK

These same people were ready to jump all over Lebrons nuts for averaging 23/8/7 while potentially going undefeated through a pathetic conference.


:wtf: :roll:

[bigkingsfan]

Only the finals matter. Isn't that the theme around ish. :banana:

[branslowski]

Dude, Kobe is one of the top 13-15 or so players of all time, and a perimeter oriented offensive specialist. You don't think the attention paid to arguably the most dominant low post player of all time will benefit that type of player maybe a teensy eensy little bit?

This is the problem with stans like you. You're smart enough to know that it's basic basketball that the interior, when manned by a low post beast, is going to draw the most attention and that perimeter players as a result will benefit significantly. Since you're a nauseating stan, however, you won't admit it and instead refuse to provide any context to the numbers.

Posters like you obviously didn't watch those playoff runs and Finals or, your ability to give Kobe no credit what so ever leads you to say dumb sh!t because Kobes man wasn't leaving to double Shaq. Shaw getting doubled benefited players like Horry, Fox, and Fisher, not so much Kobe who wasn't a spot up shooter wat so ever.

"Well Shaq was tripled thats why Kobe scored cause he's always open, that helped Kobe more" Meanwhile Kobe has a 35ppg season with Kwame at Center, so I guess that means Kwame was getting quadrupled team then..:coleman:

[Warners0]

lol @ kobe going 15-1 like it was his team. What a joke

[branslowski]

01 Kobe led the lakers in scoring and assist through their 11-0 conference finals run. Led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring & 2nd half playoff scoring. Had the highest (+/-) of all time while Shaq was a net negative (stupid stat but Lebron stans use this all the time) had b2b series averaging 35/9/4 and 33/7/7, led the team in assist for the entire playoffs had Phil Jackson saying shit like this





While averaging 29/7/6/2/1 for the entire playoffs and these bitter ass haters still don't want to give him any credit.

MEANWHILE ON ISH LAST WEEK

These same people were ready to jump all over Lebrons nuts for averaging 23/8/7 while potentially going undefeated through a pathetic conference.


:wtf: :roll:

Dat ETHER:applause:

[stalkerforlife]

01 Kobe led the lakers in scoring and assist through their 11-0 conference finals run. Led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring & 2nd half playoff scoring. Had the highest (+/-) of all time while Shaq was a net negative (stupid stat but Lebron stans use this all the time) had b2b series averaging 35/9/4 and 33/7/7, led the team in assist for the entire playoffs had Phil Jackson saying shit like this





While averaging 29/7/6/2/1 for the entire playoffs and these bitter ass haters still don't want to give him any credit.

MEANWHILE ON ISH LAST WEEK

These same people were ready to jump all over Lebrons nuts for averaging 23/8/7 while potentially going undefeated through a pathetic conference.


:wtf: :roll:

Absolute ether.

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[jstern]

01 Kobe led the lakers in scoring and assist through their 11-0 conference finals run. Led the entire league in 4th quarter playoff scoring & 2nd half playoff scoring. Had the highest (+/-) of all time while Shaq was a net negative (stupid stat but Lebron stans use this all the time) had b2b series averaging 35/9/4 and 33/7/7, led the team in assist for the entire playoffs had Phil Jackson saying shit like this





While averaging 29/7/6/2/1 for the entire playoffs and these bitter ass haters still don't want to give him any credit.

MEANWHILE ON ISH LAST WEEK

These same people were ready to jump all over Lebrons nuts for averaging 23/8/7 while potentially going undefeated through a pathetic conference.


:wtf: :roll:
Kobe is a top 12 to 18 player of all time. But you guys take that fact as an insult. We're talking a 12 to 18 top player of all time in a league that's 70 years old and has had thousands of players. Go back 25 years, and a top 12 to 18 player of all time is top ten. Taking Duncan, Shaq Lebron and so forth.

So it's not really a big surprise that a top 12 to 18 player of all time has the ability to shine when the defense is focused, double and triple teaming the most dominant player of all time in his prime. Shaq.

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe is a top 12 to 18 player of all time. But you guys take that fact as an insult. We're talking 12 to 18 top player of all time in a league that's 70 years old and has had thousands of players. Go back 25 years, and a top 12 to 18 player of all time is top ten. Taking Duncan, Shaqm Lebron and so forth.

So it's not really a big surprise that a top 12 to 18 player of all time has the ability to shine when the defense is focus, double and triple teaming the most dominant player of all time in his prime.

:roll:

[soots]

When a top 3 BIG of all time is on your side getting tripled, an SG whos nearly as good as Klay Thompson and borderline top 45 of all time will get his.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Yeah ok



lmao okay


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When a top 3 BIG of all time is on your side getting tripled, an SG whos nearly as good as Klay Thompson and borderline top 45 of all time will get his.

That explains Shaq and Penny winning all those rings in Orlando......

[LilEddyCurry]

Shaq.

[TheMarkMadsen]

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^^^^^^^

Thread over

[PsychoBe]

was waiting for those gifs :bowdown:

[Jacks3]

Are these morons still trying to use the Shaq excuse when he was MORE efficient when Shaq was off the court?

Kobe in 01 playoffs, Shaq off court:

92 PTS
27-54 FG
35-42 FT
63.5% TS

Also worth noting is that average TS% in the RS was .518 and in the PS was .511. All of the Lakers opponents had strong FC's and all 4 teams were top 9 defensively.

Lakers offense also often didn't miss anything when Shaq was on the bench. And numbers kind of back up that: Kobe net on/off +14.2, Shaq -0.3.

In fact, he had the highest on-court +/- in post-season history!
Curry 15 - 166
Ginobili 14 - 181
James 13 - 129
James 12 - 199
Dirk 11 - 170
Kobe 10 - 98
Kobe 09 - 181
Garnett 08 - 184
Duncan 07 - 82
Wade 06 - 134
Duncan 03 - 172
Shaq 02 - 118
Shaq 01 - 186
Kobe 01 - 213

lol @ these morons and their dumbass myths. :facepalm

[Cold soul]

Lakers won as team not as one single individual Kobe was amazing as was Shaq.

[BigBoss]

Kobe was only the 3rd best player behind Shaq and AI that year:roll: :roll: :roll:



Shaq works on TNT

AI is broke.

:roll: