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LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 10:25 PM
6-11 1/2 and 450+?

bigkingsfan
05-24-2016, 10:25 PM
About the same when carrying Kobe

90sgoat
05-24-2016, 10:26 PM
His 100lbs girlfriend :biggums:

http://www.atbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Shaquille-ONeal-and-his-girlfriend-Nicole-Hoopz-Alexander.jpg

Wally450
05-24-2016, 10:27 PM
Isn't he 7'1-7'2?

Gilles Simon
05-24-2016, 10:27 PM
His 100lbs girlfriend :biggums:

http://www.atbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Shaquille-ONeal-and-his-girlfriend-Nicole-Hoopz-Alexander.jpg

:biggums: RIP

inclinerator
05-24-2016, 10:28 PM
285 lbs

LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 10:28 PM
His 100lbs girlfriend :biggums:

http://www.atbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Shaquille-ONeal-and-his-girlfriend-Nicole-Hoopz-Alexander.jpg

And that's an older photo. He was "slimmer" then.

He looks like he has packed on another 50+ since then.

LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 10:29 PM
Isn't he 7'1-7'2?

No...he admitted on the Howard Stern show that he was 6-11 1/2 without shoes.

L8krH8tr
05-24-2016, 10:29 PM
Easily 365

LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 10:30 PM
Easily 365

He was that in 2002. Closer to 465 now.

Prime_Shaq
05-24-2016, 10:34 PM
Amazing

FreezingTsmoove
05-24-2016, 10:38 PM
Look at his inside the nba debut compared to now

Its amazing how fat he got

NattyPButter
05-24-2016, 10:41 PM
he needs to grow his beard back nikka looks like mutated milk dud.

L8krH8tr
05-24-2016, 10:42 PM
he needs to grow his beard back nikka looks like mutated milk dud.

dam he really does

Im Still Ballin
05-24-2016, 10:45 PM
Dude can bench 600 pounds

LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 10:53 PM
Dude can bench 600 pounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2-x-0lAQo

Not even close. Couldn't budge 405.

Looking at that effort...maybe 375 max. And he probably weighed close to 400 then.

And to be honest, I doubt he ever could bench 400.

NattyPButter
05-24-2016, 11:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2-x-0lAQo

Not even close. Couldn't budge 405.

Looking at that effort...maybe 375 max. And he probably weighed close to 400 then.

And to be honest, I doubt he ever could bench 400.

not even 375. That 315 was almost a struggle so he maxing out at 335-345

LAZERUSS
05-24-2016, 11:19 PM
not even 375. That 315 was almost a struggle so he maxing out at 335-345

Agreed.

I seriously doubt a prime Shaq ever hit 400.

L8krH8tr
05-25-2016, 12:33 AM
450 pounds he weighs now

inclinerator
05-25-2016, 12:34 AM
285 lbs

Goofsta Knicca
05-25-2016, 12:36 AM
He got gigantism.

LAZERUSS
05-25-2016, 12:54 AM
He got gigantism.

It's called obesity.

FKAri
05-25-2016, 12:55 AM
Dude can bench 600 pounds
Which translates to 2 pushups MAX

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-25-2016, 12:57 AM
How much does _ilt weigh now?
u prolly have his corpse in ur basement just check for us real quick why dontcha:applause: :applause:

LAZERUSS
05-25-2016, 12:58 AM
How much does _ilt weigh now?
u prolly have his corpse in ur basement just check for us real quick why dontcha:applause: :applause:

How about Wilt at age 50?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyN1LZNXfw

Hell, how about a 61 year old Chamberlain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnQ7c1y-vM

He looked better age 61 than a Shaq at his peak.

LAZERUSS
05-25-2016, 01:06 AM
Shaq at age 50...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=676j2BUhcNM

Done_And_Done
05-25-2016, 01:07 AM
he needs to grow his beard back nikka looks like mutated milk dud.

:lol

sportjames23
05-25-2016, 01:09 AM
Dude can bench 600 pounds


He can probably eat it, too.

soots
05-25-2016, 01:16 AM
About the same when carrying Kobe


We gonna pretend this isnt quote of the season?

inclinerator
05-26-2016, 08:07 PM
like i said 285 lbs

aj1987
05-26-2016, 08:12 PM
How about Wilt at age 50?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyN1LZNXfw

Hell, how about a 61 year old Chamberlain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnQ7c1y-vM

He looked better age 61 than a Shaq at his peak.
Shaq should probably do steroids like Ilt Chokerlain till his heart explodes. :rolleyes:

You may live in denial for the rest of your life, but the FACT is Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chumerlame and it's not even close.

G-train
05-26-2016, 09:25 PM
I'd say around 330-350 pounds now.
His playing size was grossly exaggerated.

G-train
05-26-2016, 09:25 PM
He was that in 2002. Closer to 465 now.

Don't be absurd.

eliteballer
05-26-2016, 09:44 PM
No...he admitted on the Howard Stern show that he was 6-11 1/2 without shoes.

Prove it.

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 09:48 PM
Shaq should probably do steroids like Ilt Chokerlain till his heart explodes. :rolleyes:

You may live in denial for the rest of your life, but the FACT is Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chumerlame and it's not even close.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lord Chamberlain was better at EVERY aspect of basketball than Fat Shaq.

Not even close.

And had a prime Wilt played against an old Mutombo, a washed has-been Smits, and a never-was POS McCullouch, he would have been hanging 50 a night in his Finals.

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 09:48 PM
Prove it.


Google it.

Thanks for playing.

eliteballer
05-26-2016, 09:50 PM
http://s121.photobucket.com/user/JTJTPhotos/media/NBA/Shaq/Wilt/Untitled_zpsrlshocqw.png.html

http://i.imgur.com/SgPSraL.png

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 09:54 PM
http://s121.photobucket.com/user/JTJTPhotos/media/NBA/Shaq/Wilt/Untitled_zpsrlshocqw.png.html

http://i.imgur.com/SgPSraL.png

http://i42.tinypic.com/fvwduf.jpg

eliteballer
05-26-2016, 09:56 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/fvwduf.jpg

He's slouching in that pic.

Try this:

http://s121.photobucket.com/user/JTJTPhotos/media/NBA/Shaq/Wilt/Photo-3.jpg.html?t=1296927934

eliteballer
05-26-2016, 09:57 PM
Or this

http://s121.photobucket.com/user/JTJTPhotos/media/NBA/Shaq/Wilt/Photo_zps13c59316.jpg.html?t=1296927934

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 09:59 PM
Or this

http://s121.photobucket.com/user/JTJTPhotos/media/NBA/Shaq/Wilt/Photo_zps13c59316.jpg.html?t=1296927934

Go ahead and use this one then...

Russell is nearly his height in that photo, and Wilt is at least two inches taller, and Kareem taller still. BTW, Wilt was in his late 50's in those photos, and likely lost at least an inch.

Dragonyeuw
05-26-2016, 10:05 PM
Damn how tall is Kareem? Was he a legit 7'2 without shoes?

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 10:06 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9734997&postcount=1


As a huge fan of player measurements,

I just discovered that shaq's height without shoes has been changed from 7'1 to 7'0 recently, as I was checking their website last night.

I emailed its owner and he said some new sources that he found caused him to make this change.

he hasn't shown me the exact source, but I thought many would be interested.

I always considered draftexpress to be very credible so I'd assume this change would influence all beginners to measurements of players.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9735250&postcount=6


This might explain why an old man Wilt, who by the late 1970's was measured 7-0 and 1/2, and likely was even a few fractions shorter by the 1990's, still looked significantly taller when they met, thank you for the update. And this also explains why Shaq on Howard Stern stated he was 6-11.5 (which might actually be his more specific height). 7-1 (or rather more specifically, 7-0 and 5/8ths and 7-0 and 7/8ths which were the two very specific numbers pulled from his draft info) could in fact be his IN shoes measured height if this is all true.

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 10:09 PM
Damn how tall is Kareem? Was he a legit 7'2 without shoes?

A shade under 7-2, and at least as tall as the "7-4" Ralph Sampson.

Wilt was slightly taller than 7-1.

Shaq was a shade under 7-0.

And Russell was a shade under 6-10, and as tall as Dwight, Cousins, Jordan, and Drummond.

eliteballer
05-26-2016, 10:10 PM
1. No Shaq profile on draftexpress, a site that was created by a couple of posters from realgm

2. You are citing another ISH poster on the Howard Stern claim. You haven't proved anything.

Prove. It.

You're always using BS "sources" to support your Wilt fantasies.

Dragonyeuw
05-26-2016, 10:11 PM
A shade under 7-2, and at least as tall as the "7-4" Ralph Sampson.

Wilt was slightly taller than 7-1.

Shaq was a shade under 7-0.

And Russell was a shade under 6-10, and as tall as Dwight, Cousins, Jordan, and Drummond.

Thanks, because in that last pic he looks like 4-5 inches taller than Shaq. Granted angles can be misleading, but that looks pretty dead on.

eliteballer
05-26-2016, 10:13 PM
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Shaquille-ONeal-3142.html

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 10:26 PM
1. No Shaq profile on draftexpress, a site that was created by a couple of posters from realgm

2. You are citing another ISH poster on the Howard Stern claim. You haven't proved anything.

Prove. It.

You're always using BS "sources" to support your Wilt fantasies.

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As for Shaq, maybe they removed his profile entirely, since it had become obvious that he was nowhere 7-1. He definitely used to be there.

As for Howard Stern...interesting that a number of links have that info attributed to Howard Stern's show.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Shaquille-ONeal-3142.html


james said on 12/Feb/16
Howard Stern asked him his height and he said 6'11 so I'm guessing he meant barefoot .with shoes hes 7'0..ain't no way he's 7'1 or 7'2 in the morning ..seen him with 7'1 Wilt Chamberlain in a few photos and a video on YouTube and Shaq looked 2 inches shorter .in a photo he took with 7'2 Kareem he was like 2 inches shorter ..and in a photo with 7'2 Mutombo he looked 3 inches shorter ..hes 7'0 max with shoes

This from 2012...

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1206913


While on Howard Stern, Stern questioned Shaq being 7'2 like the NBA said. Shaq said he was measured at 6'11 and they told him they exaggerate to make them seem larger then life (WWE anyone? wtf)

BTW, here is yet another photo, of an old Kareem, and Shaq.

http://mit.zenfs.com/207/2011/11/SONKAJ.jpg

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 10:27 PM
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Shaquille-ONeal-3142.html


In the same link above...


james said on 12/Feb/16
Howard Stern asked him his height and he said 6'11 so I'm guessing he meant barefoot .with shoes hes 7'0..ain't no way he's 7'1 or 7'2 in the morning ..seen him with 7'1 Wilt Chamberlain in a few photos and a video on YouTube and Shaq looked 2 inches shorter .in a photo he took with 7'2 Kareem he was like 2 inches shorter ..and in a photo with 7'2 Mutombo he looked 3 inches shorter ..hes 7'0 max with shoes

Dragonyeuw
05-26-2016, 10:32 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/1010/nba_e_yaoshaq_576x578.jpg

Pretty dramatic difference between Shaq and Yao here...

gigantes
05-26-2016, 10:40 PM
i was able to find shaq's draftexpress, no problem:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Shaquille-O-Neal-3796/

7'0" in bare feet seems pretty accurate. he certainly looked around 7'1.5" or 7'2" compared to other players on the court.

i remember one time he was standing next to duncan at the end of an all-star game, and i was shocked how much taller shaq was.

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 10:48 PM
i was able to find shaq's draftexpress, no problem:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Shaquille-O-Neal-3796/

7'0" in bare feet seems pretty accurate. he certainly looked around 7'1.5" or 7'2" compared to other players on the court.

i remember one time he was standing next to duncan at the end of an all-star game, and i was shocked how much taller shaq was.

For years basketball reference listed Duncan at 7-0, but again, he was never measured anywhere near that height. They list him at 6-11 now, and I suspect, he is probably closer to 6-10 1/2.

gigantes
05-26-2016, 11:09 PM
For years basketball reference listed Duncan at 7-0, but again, he was never measured anywhere near that height. They list him at 6-11 now, and I suspect, he is probably closer to 6-10 1/2.
that sounds about right.

and i'm not much of a sneaker expert, but i would imagine there's some variance in the soles / cushioning from model to model.

also, i would think that sneaks on a PG might add only an inch or so, but sneaks on a center-type with huge feet could add two+ inches.

Deuce Bigalow
05-26-2016, 11:33 PM
Stronger and has more rings than Wilt

Smoke117
05-26-2016, 11:34 PM
Shaq >>> Wilt

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 11:37 PM
Stronger and has more rings than Wilt

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Nowhere near the strength Chamberlain had.

But thanks for playing.

As for rings...

He beat a couple of budding Spurs teams, and never beat a great team.

And he certainly never faced a great team, eight times in his career.

Hell, he went 1-8 against OSTERTAG forcryingoutloud.

coin24
05-26-2016, 11:46 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lord Chamberlain was better at EVERY aspect of basketball than Fat Shaq.

Not even close.

And had a prime Wilt played against an old Mutombo, a washed has-been Smits, and a never-was POS McCullouch, he would have been hanging 50 a night in his Finals.


Wilt couldn't even beat 6 foot midgets in the finals let alone beast against shaqs competition :lol :lol

bdonovan
05-26-2016, 11:48 PM
His 100lbs girlfriend :biggums:

http://www.atbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Shaquille-ONeal-and-his-girlfriend-Nicole-Hoopz-Alexander.jpg

They look like they belong to different species.

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 11:50 PM
Wilt couldn't even beat 6 foot midgets in the finals let alone beast against shaqs competition :lol :lol

You mean a HOF midget in EVERY one of his Finals?

And a Shaq who couldn't budge a 6-8 Rodman?

Or a Shaq that went 1-8 against Ostertag?

Or a Shaq that faced a washed-up Smits in his last season, and a McCulloch who was a 6-11 bust in his four years in the league?

Hell, an Erick Dampier gave him problems later on.

LAZERUSS
05-26-2016, 11:51 PM
They look like they belong to different species.

And that photo was taken a couple of years ago. He's probably packed on at least another 50 lbs since.

Smoke117
05-26-2016, 11:54 PM
http://www.interbasket.net/news/16909/2015/02/retired-fat-nba-players/

Deuce Bigalow
05-27-2016, 12:01 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Nowhere near the strength Chamberlain had.

But thanks for playing.

As for rings...

He beat a couple of budding Spurs teams, and never beat a great team.

And he certainly never faced a great team, eight times in his career.

Hell, he went 1-8 against OSTERTAG forcryingoutloud.
Wilt went 2/6 in the finals

2/14 for his career

5 eliminations with HCA

Swept by a sub .500 team with HCA in his prime

1-5 vs Russell

0-2 vs Reed

1-1 vs Kareem

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 12:14 AM
Wilt went 2/6 in the finals

2/14 for his career

5 eliminations with HCA

Swept by a sub .500 team with HCA in his prime

1-5 vs Russell

0-2 vs Reed

1-1 vs Kareem

Shaq was SWEPT SIX times, and NEARLY EIGHT.

Went 1-8 against Ostertag, and in fact, in one series, he was awful against him.

A prime Wilt was never shut down by a 6-8 Rodman-sized player, either. Nor outrebounded in a Finals by a 6-7 center, either.

Deuce Bigalow
05-27-2016, 12:17 AM
Shaq was SWEPT SIX times, and NEARLY EIGHT.

Went 1-8 against Ostertag, and in fact, in one series, he was awful against him.

A prime Wilt was never shut down by a 6-8 Rodman-sized player, either. Nor outrebounded in a Finals by a 6-7 center, either.
And everybody Wilt played was undersized compared to him except Kareem and yet...

Shaq 4/6
Wilt 2/6

aj1987
05-27-2016, 03:31 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chump Chokerlain was SIGNIFICANTLY better at EVERY aspect of basketball than Fat Shaq.

Not even close.

And had a prime Wilt played against a Mutombo, a Smits, and a McCullouch, he would have been hanging 50 bricks a night in his Finals.
Agreed. Ilt Chokerlain is arguably the WORST Finals performer of all time. Dude was just a scrub.


Nowhere near the strength Chamberlain had.
Except, Shaq would eat that roided mental midget and shit him out.


He beat a couple of budding Spurs teams, and never beat a great team.
Spurs teams with 2 of the greatest interior defenders of all time. If Robinson played against the mental midget, he would own him worse than Russell did.


And he certainly never faced a great team, eight times in his career.
Dude, Chokerlain played in THE worst era of basketball. It's like comparing a '60's F1 car to todays.


Hell, he went 1-8 against OSTERTAG forcryingoutloud.
You mean Karl Malone and Stockton?

Finally, the only stats that matter are 4 and 3. 4 rings and 3 FMVPS.

plowking
05-27-2016, 04:03 AM
not even 375. That 315 was almost a struggle so he maxing out at 335-345

lol I doubt the Rock could hit 405 either.

Surprised Shaq couldn't bench it, even being out of shape and not caring about the gym too much. 315lbs did look a struggle.

Good knowing I can bench as much as one of the best athletes of all time. :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:15 AM
Shaq should probably do steroids like Ilt Chokerlain till his heart explodes. :rolleyes:

You may live in denial for the rest of your life, but the FACT is Shaq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chumerlame and it's not even close.

Wilt died from heart failure at age 63. A relative norm for seven-footers.

Shaq? Good chance he won't make 50.

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:21 AM
I'd say around 330-350 pounds now.
His playing size was grossly exaggerated.

I could probably scour the internet and find his peak playing weight, but PHILA had these post in another forum...

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1163425


Los Angeles Times - Oct 7, 1999

Whatever Coach Phil Jackson's requested weight for Shaquille O'Neal was, the center did not meet it--probably didn't even come close--when the Lakers were weighed after the morning practice Wednesday at UC Santa Barbara.

"The more I lift weights, the higher the number's going to be," O'Neal said. "I'm not really concerned about numbers. . . . I'll bust any big man's butt no matter what I weigh."

"I'm not unhappy about it," Jackson said. "He's shown he's in condition out there on the floor. That's the major goal, the guy's in condition so he can get up and down the court."

O'Neal, who has added muscle on his shoulders, said he came in at 340 pounds.



Orlando Sentinel - Oct 31, 1999

He is bigger than ever now, a solid 340 pounds (at least 10 pounds heavier than last season) and has a Hungry Man appetite that demands immediate satisfaction.



Washington Times - October 8, 2003

With the help of a personal trainer, O’Neal has shed 35 pounds and revealed one of the closely guarded secrets of the NBA, which is his exact weight. He reported to the team’s training camp in Hawaii at 345 pounds, down from his playing weight of 380 last season.

I'm sorry, but today he simply HAS to weigh well over 400 lbs.

HurricaneKid
05-27-2016, 10:34 AM
I could probably scour the internet and find his peak playing weight, but PHILA had these post in another forum...

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1163425



I'm sorry, but today he simply HAS to weigh well over 400 lbs.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/screen-shot-2015-10-07-at-11-04-45-am.png?w=650

There is zero chance he is under 450. He PLAYED at 380. He might be 500. I doubt he even knows. The only scales that even go that high are for horses and cows.

Gileraracer
05-27-2016, 10:34 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lord Chamberlain was better at EVERY aspect of basketball than Fat Shaq.

Not even close.

And had a prime Wilt played against an old Mutombo, a washed has-been Smits, and a never-was POS McCullouch, he would have been hanging 50 a night in his Finals.

Ilt played against midgets and still choked on a regular basis

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 10:37 AM
Ilt played against midgets and still choked on a regular basis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwHP04TWOps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utx7OxiaoU


How about a typical center in the Shaq era...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7BfIIwcfXQ

Elosha
05-27-2016, 10:53 AM
How about Wilt at age 50?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyN1LZNXfw

Hell, how about a 61 year old Chamberlain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnQ7c1y-vM

He looked better age 61 than a Shaq at his peak.

Come on Lazeruss, don't fall into the trap of tearing down another all time great just to prop up Wilt. Shaq could have easily benched 405 in his prime, I believe there are accounts of him benching over 450. And since you and I are both weight lifters, you know bench is only one of many indicators of physical strength. Neither Wilt nor Shaq are power lifters. We will never know who had the overall greater body strength. However, when comparing the game footage, which is the best way to make a fair comparison, one could make a solid argument that Shaq (Orlando/LA version) appears more explosive and physically dominant/athletic than Wilt.

Of course, there are counterarguments. And Wilt, to his credit, kept himself in good shape after he retired. Shaq did not and obviously let himself go pretty quickly. Committing to hard work was always Shaq's achilles heel. Doesn't mean he still doesn't compare well to any center in history.

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 11:35 AM
Come on Lazeruss, don't fall into the trap of tearing down another all time great just to prop up Wilt. Shaq could have easily benched 405 in his prime, I believe there are accounts of him benching over 450. And since you and I are both weight lifters, you know bench is only one of many indicators of physical strength. Neither Wilt nor Shaq are power lifters. We will never know who had the overall greater body strength. However, when comparing the game footage, which is the best way to make a fair comparison, one could make a solid argument that Shaq (Orlando/LA version) appears more explosive and physically dominant/athletic than Wilt.

Of course, there are counterarguments. And Wilt, to his credit, kept himself in good shape after he retired. Shaq did not and obviously let himself go pretty quickly. Committing to hard work was always Shaq's achilles heel. Doesn't mean he still doesn't compare well to any center in history.

I have Shaq at #6 on my all-time list, and above Duncan, Moses, and Hakeem.

As for the Wilt-Shaq arguments of strength...the internet is plastered with first-hand accounts of Chamberlain's enormous strength. Hell, one of the greatest body-builders of all-time was astonished by Wilt's staggering feats.

In Cherry's book on Wilt, he interviewed a supposedly well-known weight lifter by the name of Fluke Fluker, who was 6-5 and 250 lbs, and was capable of a 500 lb bench, and he claimed that "The man could curl a 100 lb dumbbell as easy as I can lift a telephone receiver."

There is a live interview in 1997 in which the interviewer claims to have watched Wilt benching 465 lbs, and Chamberlain substantiated it (in fact Wilt claims that he used to do more.)

Then there are all of the other accounts. Picking up a 225 lb man and throwing him over a volleyball net; lifting a 240 lb man by one arm over a rail at a baseball game; lifting a 600 lb load onto an elevator; etc. etc.

And if you google Wilt's bench, you will get tons of 500+ lb responses.

Shaq doing 450? I find it hard to believe that a 40 year old Shaq would have lost so much strength in such a short time, to the point of struggling to get 315 up. IMHO, I seriously doubt that he ever came close to 400.

In any case, there are far more accounts of Chamberlain's unfathomable strength, than of Shaq's.

And as for your "explosive" comments...

One, we have less than 2% of Wilt's entire career on video.

Two, I watched Chamberlain from about '63-64 on, and if anything, he went out of his way NOT to use his staggering strength and athleticism, and the biggest reason being, he was afraid he would hurt someone. Later in his career, he even cushioned his "slam" dunks, by curling the dunk underneath the front of the rim.

And finally, there was no ESPN back then. Most players avoided expending unnecessary energy on blocks and dunks.

Before CavsFTW's footage emerged on the internet, some of it with eye-popping leaps by Chamberlain...there was a poster here that had a clip of Wilt chasing down a player, and blocking the shot. His point was that Wilt didn't leap very high during the block. Of course, Wilt blocked the shot almost at a horizontal angle, because, that was what the block called for. Did he honestly want Wilt to block the shot with his waist?

Continued (geez, I hate this 4000 restriction),,,

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 11:35 AM
Continuing...

And with regards to Wilt's leaping ability...just too many legitimate first hand accounts of touching the top-of-the-back-board, or dunking on a 12 ft rim; or dunking from the free throw line; or a Wilt in his 30's reaching 12'-9" (a peak athletic Shaq hit 12' 5" BTW, and Dwight edged it out at 12' 6"), etc. Hell, Chamberlain was winning high-jump titles in college, and doing so part-time, and with poor technique.

IMHO, Shaq was nowhere near as strong as Chamberlain, nor anywhere close to the athlete that Wilt was.

Did Shaq use his size and weight to his advantage more than Chamberlain? No question in my mind that he did. But, you have to remember that the NBA did everything in their power to try and limit Wilt's dominance throughout his career. They were constantly putting in rules to curtail his overwhelming numbers (and most all of them had zero affect BTW...other than not allowing him to dunk his FT's.)

Having said, though,... I wonder how a prime Wilt would have played in "Sports Center" era, and where a Shaq was allowed to do this to his opposing centers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3FXLyNFew

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 11:40 AM
There is zero chance he is under 450. He PLAYED at 380. He might be 500. I doubt he even knows. The only scales that even go that high are for horses and cows.

Those photos with his girl-friend are probably from a couple of years ago, and he looked like 400+ then. And I was just shocked to watch him a few nights ago. If someone told me that he has put on 50 lbs in the last year, or so, I wouldn't doubt it for a moment.

Anywhere from 450-500 is quite likely.

TheCorporation
05-27-2016, 01:02 PM
Dude can bench 600 pounds

*Dude can bench 1.5 times his weight, haha so can I

400 X 1.5 = 600

I'm 185 and can do well over 275 so yeah

aj1987
05-27-2016, 05:54 PM
Wilt died from heart failure at age 63. A relative norm for seven-footers.

Shaq? Good chance he won't make 50.
Good to know that you're wishing death on a player, because he absolutely takes dinosaur sized shits on your boyfriend.

That roided mental midget would, at best, be a bench C during the '90's. Overrated scrub, who played in a shit level era.

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 05:59 PM
Good to know that you're wishing death on a player, because he absolutely takes dinosaur sized shits on your boyfriend.

That roided mental midget would, at best, be a bench C during the '90's. Overrated scrub, who played in a shit level era.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq's toughest opposing center was a center whom a 39 year old Kareem routinely hung 40+ games on.

aj1987
05-27-2016, 06:17 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
2/6


4/13 in a Finals G7

30 -- 22 -- 18

WOAT Finals performer

6th and 7th.

Those are facts, old fart. You might want to ignore them and live in delusion, but FACTS are FACTS.

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 06:25 PM
2/6


4/13 in a Finals G7

30 -- 22 -- 18

WOAT Finals performer

6th and 7th.

Those are facts, old fart. You might want to ignore them and live in delusion, but FACTS are FACTS.

Finals of the 60's were Wilt vs Boston.

28.0 ppg, 29 ppg, 30 ppg, 31 ppg, 34 ppg.

And then in his 22 ppg '67 post-season, he slaughtered Russell and the eight-time defending champs with a 22-32-10 .556 series.

Was BY FAR, the most dominant performer in his TWO Finals wins, including one in which he averaged 18 ppg, and in the same series, Barry averaged 41 ppg. Compare that with 3" LeChoke and his 36 ppg Finals, in which he was outvoted in the FMVP by a bench-warmer.

FACTS.

And again, the centers of the early 70's would have abused the centers of the 90's. Not even close. One did in FACT.

GOAT.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

aj1987
05-27-2016, 06:29 PM
Finals of the 60's were Chokerlain vs Russell.

28.0 ppg, 29 ppg, 30 ppg, 31 ppg, 34 ppg. Padded stats hard AF.

And then in his 22 ppg '67 post-season, he sucked dick. Russell and the eight-time defending champs with a 22-32-10 .556 series. Got carried. :applause:

Was BY FAR, the msot horrible performer in his TWO Finals wins, including one in which he averaged 18 ppg, and in the same series, Barry averaged 41 ppg. Compare that with LeBron and his 36 ppg Finals, in which he was outvoted in the FMVP by a a dude who could only hold him to 36/13/9. Chokerlain lost when his teammate won FMVP. That's how terrible he was. Borderline top 50.

FACTS.

WOAT.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Agreed, Chumperlame's lover.

LAZERUSS
05-27-2016, 06:35 PM
BTW, Robert Parish, who played until 1997, and faced both Artis Gilmore and Shaq...claimed that Gilmore was stronger.

aj1987
05-27-2016, 06:37 PM
Finals of the 60's were Chokerlain vs Russell.

28.0 ppg, 29 ppg, 30 ppg, 31 ppg, 34 ppg. Padded stats hard AF.

And then in his 22 ppg '67 post-season, he sucked dick. Russell and the eight-time defending champs with a 22-32-10 .556 series. Got carried. :applause:

Was BY FAR, the msot horrible performer in his TWO Finals wins, including one in which he averaged 18 ppg, and in the same series, Barry averaged 41 ppg. Compare that with LeBron and his 36 ppg Finals, in which he was outvoted in the FMVP by a a dude who could only hold him to 36/13/9. Chokerlain lost when his teammate won FMVP. That's how terrible he was. Borderline top 50.

FACTS.

WOAT.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Agreed, Chumperlame's lover.