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Im Still Ballin
05-25-2016, 01:15 AM
They play an organic (Inside-Out) style of basketball, that can generate good open looks through the sheer talent of LeBron and Kyrie. It's a slow paced, half court style that isn't so much dependent on any one specific route of scoring like the 3 pointer or transition. The key is LeBron, and his ability to control the tempo of the game, and facilitate his team.

As far as matchup wise, they don't really have someone for LeBron. I think Cleveland's bigs are also going to be able to match OKC's. Thompson and Love are more than adequate rebounding matches to Kanter and Adams. Their size might be an issue, but so is Love and Frye's offensive range/skillset. The use of Ibaka will be interesting... Love played him well last matchup.

OKC wants to get out and run, but I think Cleveland's controlling of the tempo will irritate them into stagnant offense.

Here are the 2 boxscores from their matches this season
http://www.espn.com.au/nba/recap?gameId=400828711
http://www.espn.com.au/nba/recap?gameId=400828271

You'll notice Cleveland won the rebounding both times...
- Tristan Thompson was an animal on the boards against OKC

- Love had 2 solid matches

- LeBron dominated scoring and facilitating (They have no one to guard him)

- Cavs were able to implement their gameplan better, getting more assists

- Both times the Cavs were able to limit to poor 3pt shooting AND shoot lights out... OKC have been able to stifle Golden state, but they play a different brand of basketball that generates their looks... Quote on quote, LeBron ball works in the half court, getting open looks without crazy risk of turnovers from lots of ball movement which is what is happening to Golden State... They play outside-in off of Curry whereas Cleveland plays through LeBron who draws attention inside.. Cavs will be able to light it up from three, without pushing the pace and relying on transition 3's

- IMPORTANT: You'll notice Durant gets KILLED on the boards against LeBron... This is how LeBron did it in 2012. His intense physical play, he got Durant into foul trouble back then... Probably won't again, but it still was evident and made an impact in the games this season

- Kanter was terrible against the Cavs this season

- Mozgov could be of use against OKC's bigs

- The free throw count is pretty even

- Moderate to low turnover game... Slower

- Cavaliers have won 20 straight games when LeBron James has 10+ assists. (he had 11 today at Thunder)... Thunder defense not accustomed to being able to stop LeBron and his facilitating

- OKC takes ALOT of long two's against Cleveland, whereas Cleveland doesn't

- In the 1st matchup: LeBron James scored or assisted on a season-high 63 points Thursday, including 39 of the Cavaliers 58 second-half points.

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So in summary;
Cleveland will win because:
1. They can match and even beat (as they did twice this season) OKC on the boards (Thompson is a OKC match up nightmare)
2. Superior 3pt shooting (OKC didn't shoot well from 3 in both games + they take a lot of long inefficient 2s)
3. OKC has no one to stop LeBron from dominating both scoring wise, AND most importantly facilitating... Both games he had 10+ assists along with 25 and 33 points
4. LeBron will bully KD
5. They can slow the game down and suffocate OKC into irrationality (For which they are known)... Cleveland has no problem playing LeBron ball = good looks for shooters in the half court
6. Love plays well against OKC
7. Kyrie can play off of LeBron's gravity inside

The three main things are rebounding, shooting and match ups

oh the horror
05-25-2016, 01:18 AM
I think OKC has definitely exceeded expectations but I still believe Cavs are a bad matchup for them.

KiiiiNG
05-25-2016, 01:18 AM
OKC in 5

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2016, 01:19 AM
I think OKC has definitely exceeded expectations but I still believe Cavs are a bad matchup for them.
The most important thing is Cleveland have their number on the boards

Thompson has shown twice now that he's a bad matchup for OKC

If Cleveland can get their shooters going in the half court

I like Cleveland's chances

imdaman99
05-25-2016, 01:20 AM
Current OKC is a lot better than regular season OKC. Warriors swept OKC 3-0 too.

sportjames23
05-25-2016, 01:21 AM
Does Cleveland have the recipe to beat Toronto?

nba_55
05-25-2016, 01:22 AM
They both need to get past Warriors and Raptors before that.

ThunderKat
05-25-2016, 01:24 AM
Does Cleveland have the recipe to beat Toronto?

Lol no kidding. I would love to play Cleveland for it all. We get our revenge on Lebron and Durant and Westbrook get their ring.

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2016, 01:25 AM
Current OKC is a lot better than regular season OKC. Warriors swept OKC 3-0 too.
Those were all really close games

The smart posters like Milbuck and I knew that OKC were a bad matchup for GSW.. You have to read into the details, watch the footage, take notes.

Styles and match ups

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-25-2016, 01:26 AM
Cleveland is a terrible matchup for OKC theyll win easy
but its CLE/GS anyways

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-25-2016, 01:26 AM
Cleveland is a terrible matchup for OKC theyll win easy
but its CLE/GS anyways

Im Still Ballin
05-25-2016, 01:37 AM
If OKC and Cleveland meet in the finals?

Cleveland in 6

LeBron FMVP

Tristan Thompson and Frye as X factors, on the glass and shooting 3 respectively

Kyrie has a solid series, and Love plays well

KD gets shut out on the boards by LeBron

Westbrook has some insane games, with some irrational phases

The poise and calm of Cleveland in the clutch and half court, through LeBron in the post will win them this championship

LAZERUSS
05-25-2016, 01:42 AM
The Warriors slaughtered the Cavs this season...and they are getting their ass kicked by the Thunder.

I would take Durant over Lebron right now...and Westbrick over Kyrie. Love has folded his tent, so even Ibaka has a decided edge over him. Tristan was a flash-in-the-pan and is getting abused by a bench player. Frey? A career choking bench-warmer, who won't get an open look in the Finals.

These match-ups are one-sided across the board.

The Cavs might as well pack it in and let the Craptors get routed in the Finals.

IcanzIIravor
05-25-2016, 01:53 AM
Cleveland is a terrible matchup for OKC theyll win easy
but its CLE/GS anyways

Not this current Cleveland team that is shooting the three like they are trying to be like the Warriors. I'll never understand why they don't get Love down on the block more.

LukeWalton
05-25-2016, 01:54 AM
lots of love for my former team

Im Still Ballin
05-26-2016, 07:21 AM
This is looking more likely.

StephHamann
05-26-2016, 08:10 AM
Westbrook can stop Cleveland, if Durant takes more shots than Westbrook, Cleveland will win in 5.

PP34Deuce
05-26-2016, 09:03 AM
Westbrook can stop Cleveland, if Durant takes more shots than Westbrook, Cleveland will win in 5.

Way too ahead to think of this match up but it will be a 7 game series.

Close games. Lebron is still very athletic and stronger than Durant. Durant historically struggles one on one with him.

Westbrook is a monster, Cleveland has Shump, Delly, Smith and Jefferson to throw at him.

The lack of respect on Brons jumper will have Ibaka or Adams defending him. He's literally a PF on offense right now.