If MJ played in the modern NBA

[Cali Syndicate]

NBA 2k Simulation 2003 - 2015

5 championships
6 MVPs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRoFYwSCgc

[Klay 3D]

Jordan with Brandon Roy and Dwight Howard? Damn that's a beastly team. :bowdown:

[sd3035]

didn't watch the vid but he would be a solid 25-5-5 guy

[bdreason]

He would be Westbrook with better : Jumper, post game, passing, decision making, defense, and general IQ.

In other words, he would be unstoppable. On a team where he's allowed to just run wild, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him averaging a 30 - point triple - double while being in the discussion for Dpoy.

[Cali Syndicate]

He would be Westbrook with better : Jumper, post game, passing, decision making, defense, and general IQ.

In other words, he would be unstoppable. On a team where he's allowed to just run wild, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him averaging a 30 - point triple - double while being in the discussion for Dpoy.

In this simulation, he had multiple 35+ppg seasons lol.

[SouBeachTalents]

didn't watch the vid but he would be a solid 25-5-5 guy

Sort of like Curry's stats in last years Finals. With no FMVP votes though

[andgar923]

One major flaw in the video.

Without MJ existing when he did, who would Kobe pattern his life after?

Who would Wade look up too?

[IGOTGAME]

One major flaw in the video.

Without MJ existing when he did, who would Kobe pattern his life after?

Who would Wade look up too?

Same guys Jordan patterned his game after

[andgar923]

Same guys Jordan patterned his game after

How so?

MJ patterned his game after David Thompson and Ice Man, there's no way Kobe would do the same because he wouldn't be able to see them play since there wasn't game footage available like today. You either saw them play when they aired or live, I doubt Italy showed many of their games, and I doubt a toddler Kobe was old enough to remember watching them live.

So who does the MJ in this video get influenced by?

Another major flaw in this vid is, no MJ in the 80s = different era.

No MJ means Ewing wins, Malone probably wins, the NBA would take a different route as a whole. Instead of trying to find the next MJ the league tries to find more big men. No MJ = less worldwide marketing both by the NBA and its sponsors.

The way the game is played is completely different now, the rules aren't changed to find the next MJ and cater to the perimeter players, which in turn decreases the chances of the 3pt shot being what it is today, which in turn erases Curry from being who he is or most of the other perimeter stars today.

So the MJ in the game doesn't exist, I mean, does he pattern his game after Drexler? Nique? Magic?

[HurricaneKid]

So some nerd at 2k randomly gives him attributes and its taken for gospel?

Video Games =/= Real Life

[beastee]

He would be the GOAT. Just like he is now.

[Nikola_]

So a middle class 80s'Jordan is tearing up unanimous MVP on a team with best record ever yet we gon ack like Jordan wouldnt sweep pretty much everything in a span of 10 years. k

4real, Jordans game would suffer cause he would need to adjust to the 3 point game. You couldnt win anymore with 2s.

[feyki]

Solid video .

I love to watch those whatif videos , a lot of enjoyable video over there .

[Kiddlovesnets]

He would be Westbrook with better : Jumper, post game, passing, decision making, defense, and general IQ.

In other words, he would be unstoppable. On a team where he's allowed to just run wild, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him averaging a 30 - point triple - double while being in the discussion for Dpoy.

You forgot to mention that Jordan is 3 inches taller than Westbrook, and trust me this makes a huge difference.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I just simulated a season.. Westbrook averaged 26/10/12 in the regular season, won MVP, took the thunder to the finals while KD was out for the entire playoffs and beat the Cavs after KD returned to the finals. KD won FMVP averages 30/10/10 in the finals.

2k isn't real life. Why would anybody use 2k simulations as a valid argument..

[90sgoat]

Lol this was great fun to watch actually and not that unrealistic. Funny to think how MJ would have turned out with different teammates.

I think he'd do great with Dwight in real life actually.

[KiiiiNG]

Lol this was great fun to watch actually and not that unrealistic. Funny to think how MJ would have turned out with different teammates.

I think he'd do great with Dwight in real life actually.
The only realistic part was when Jordan blew by Curry for a game-winning layup in game 6 of the 2015 NBA finals.

Dude made one move and Curry went FLYING in the other direction just like in real life. :roll:

[90sgoat]

The only realistic part was when Jordan blew by Curry for a game-winning layup in game 6 of the 2015 NBA finals.

Dude made one move and Curry went FLYING in the other direction just like in real life. :roll:

Let go of the MJ hate s....., Jordan fam is now onboard the OKC train.

[Marchesk]

Jordan also didn't have a poverty vertical. A taller, higher jumping, better shooting Westbrook. GOATbrook on steroids.

[KiiiiNG]

Let go of the MJ hate s....., Jordan fam is now onboard the OKC train.
Jordan/LeBron/Durant alliance?

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[90sgoat]

Jordan/LeBron/Durant alliance?

:banana: :banana: :banana:

I don't like Lebron, but we'll keep him on unto the finals, and then when we've taken care off little boy Curry, we'll dispose with Lebron like a hired goon who outlived his purpose.

[stephanieg]

If Jordan played in the modern NBA he'd have grown up playing in modern AAU culture, wouldn't know how to post up, and would chuck threes.

[90sgoat]

If Jordan played in the modern NBA he'd have grown up playing in modern AAU culture, wouldn't know how to post up, and would chuck threes.

D. Wade is great at posting up and doesn't chuck 3s and have 3 rings.

[Dragonyeuw]

didn't watch the vid but he would be a solid 25-5-5 guy

Please, at 39 he was averaging that before his knee gave out and he ended the 2002 season early. Harden averaged 29/7/6. James fcuking Harden. You think MJ is going to do WORSE than that?!

[Hey Yo]

NBA 2k Simulation 2003 - 2015

5 championships
6 MVPs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRoFYwSCgc
During that time span, when does he quit the league for 2yrs and comeback?

[NBAGOAT]

damn forget robert sarver traded away a top 10 pick for money :lol. Poor Suns fans

[nightprowler10]

During that time span, when does he quit the league for 2yrs and comeback?
I think he skipped 2011, played a handful of games in 2012 and played very rusty. Bulls picked up Dragic & Butler in those years.

[nightprowler10]

There's something so right about DRose getting drafted by the Blazers in this.

[Cali Syndicate]

During that time span, when does he quit the league for 2yrs and comeback?

Only for 2012, it's made that MJ only plays the final 17 games. Ends up losing in the ECF to the Heatles.

[NBAGOAT]

Lol this was great fun to watch actually and not that unrealistic. Funny to think how MJ would have turned out with different teammates.

I think he'd do great with Dwight in real life actually.

I liked it to. Feel bad for Dirk and the big 3 Celtics. Feel great for Howard, Roy, Dragic, and Butler. Duncan and Kobe get one less ring but tht's not a huge deal. I think he was wrong about lebron winning only 2 MVP's since he never mentioned who won in 2012 but not much else changes for him either besides people maybe being more sympathetic towards him.

[Cali Syndicate]

The only realistic part was when Jordan blew by Curry for a game-winning layup in game 6 of the 2015 NBA finals.

Dude made one move and Curry went FLYING in the other direction just like in real life. :roll:

Imagine Curry slapping the hardwood in KG style on defense in a game winning iso situation against MJ lol.

[Straight_Ballin]

So a middle class 80s'Jordan is tearing up unanimous MVP on a team with best record ever yet we gon ack like Jordan wouldnt sweep pretty much everything in a span of 10 years. k

4real, Jordans game would suffer cause he would need to adjust to the 3 point game. You couldnt win anymore with 2s.

It wouldn't suffer at all. He would simply adapt his game and put more time into being a better 3 point shooter. That's what happens when you are the best at something. You just do what is necessary to continue being the best. Let's say MJ was 27 today and won his first championship after entering the league at the age of 21 back in 2010. He would absolutely destroy with a team good enough to get to the finals and most likely still go 6/6 from age of 27 and onward. Greatness such as his simply transcends eras, and if you didn't watch it live, you don't know what greatness is.

Greatness isn't 5/7 with bad fg%
Greatness isn't 2/6 with multiple chokes.
Greatness isn't 1/1 with being a mediocre defender.

Educate yourself on wtf greatness is and the answer is clear. People try to paint a false picture on what greatness is because the best player they've ever seen play the game is their only reference point. When people who watched Wilt and other past greats start telling me they were better than MJ, then I'll take on the same mindset but all I hear from those guys is that MJ is GOAT and that's taking into account the fact that they watched Wilt play. That tells me all I need to know about players pre MJ era in relation to him. There is literally what.... 0.5% of fans that say MJ isn't the best they've ever seen relative to players post MJ? Numerous top 10 lists from multiple numerous sources over the years tells you all you need to know.

Been watching and hearing about MJ's greatness since it went down and trust me, I WELCOME the opportunity to be able to watch someone better. Shit get's boring when you've already seen the best there is, was, and ever will be. If it hasn't happened by now, then by the time it does happen the game will have changed so much that you can't even make a realistic comparison.

[NBAGOAT]

It wouldn't suffer at all. He would simply adapt his game and put more time into being a better 3 point shooter. That's what happens when you are the best at something. You just do what is necessary to continue being the best. Let's say MJ was 27 today and won his first championship after entering the league at the age of 21 back in 2010. He would absolutely destroy with a team good enough to get to the finals and most likely still go 6/6 from age of 27 and onward. Greatness such as his simply transcends eras, and if you didn't watch it live, you don't know what greatness is.

Greatness isn't 5/7 with bad fg%
Greatness isn't 2/6 with multiple chokes.
Greatness isn't 1/1 with being a mediocre defender.

Educate yourself on wtf greatness is and the answer is clear. People try to paint a false picture on what greatness is because the best player they've ever seen play the game is their only reference point. When people who watched Wilt and other past greats start telling me they were better than MJ, then I'll take on the same mindset but all I hear from those guys is that MJ is GOAT and that's taking into account the fact that they watched Wilt play. That tells me all I need to know about players pre MJ era in relation to him. There is literally what.... 0.5% of fans that say MJ isn't the best they've ever seen relative to players post MJ? Numerous top 10 lists from multiple numerous sources over the years tells you all you need to know.

Been watching and hearing about MJ's greatness since it went down and trust me, I WELCOME the opportunity to be able to watch someone better. Shit get's boring when you've already seen the best there is, was, and ever will be. If it hasn't happened by now, then by the time it does happen the game will have changed so much that you can't even make a realistic comparison.

and here we have one of those idiots who thinks MJ would sweep any team with any roster. You basically just assumed MJ would win a ring his 1st year in the league after being drafted by a lottery team, I don't know what else to say. No Kobe, Lebron, Curry and Wilt aren't better. Don't know why Kareem doesn't deserves a mention however with his longevity.

[OldSchoolBBall]

So a middle class 80s'Jordan is tearing up unanimous MVP on a team with best record ever yet we gon ack like Jordan wouldnt sweep pretty much everything in a span of 10 years. k

4real, Jordans game would suffer cause he would need to adjust to the 3 point game. You couldnt win anymore with 2s.

Jordan's 3-pointer shits on Westbrook's, and Russ seems to have no trouble dominating despite being inferior in virtually every aspect of the game to Jordan.

On the real, though, I would KILL to see Jordan with a modern handle. Dude was blowing past people at will WITHOUT having to get them off balance with the dribble - imagine he now has a handle that can shake guys? Unstoppable.

[KiiiiNG]

Imagine Curry slapping the hardwood in KG style on defense in a game winning iso situation against MJ lol.
lol'd when I saw that.

[Straight_Ballin]

and here we have one of those idiots who thinks MJ would sweep any team with any roster. You basically just assumed MJ would win a ring his 1st year in the league after being drafted by a lottery team, I don't know what else to say. No Kobe, Lebron, Curry and Wilt aren't better. Don't know why Kareem doesn't deserves a mention however with his longevity.

I said if MJ has a team good enough around him to be in the finals, the team with MJ wins every time. I also said this is based on MJ is 27, after entering the league at 21. Who said anything about 1st year. Try and keep up. We have no data to prove that he would lose and the burden of proving that he would lose, rests on those who doubt the facts.

[NBAGOAT]

I said if MJ has a team good enough around him to be in the finals, the team with MJ wins every time. I also said this is based on MJ is 27, after entering the league at 21. Who said anything about 1st year. Try and keep up. We have no data to prove that he would lose and the burden of proving that he would lose, rests on those who doubt the facts.

nvm that misunderstood when you said MJ would win his 1st ring at 27, thought you said he win at 21. Your logic is still flawed. Maybe he's on a team good enough to make the Finals some years but other years wouldn't even make the Finals as this simulation showed.

[Straight_Ballin]

nvm that misunderstood when you said MJ would win his 1st ring at 27, thought you said he win at 21. Your logic is still flawed. Maybe he's on a team good enough to make the Finals some years but other years wouldn't even make the Finals as this simulation showed.

And how does the simulation take into account that once MJ is in the finals, he never loses? If he never loses in the finals, why would the team he's on change so much that it wouldn't 3 peat? If anything is flawed, it's the model for the simulation. There is no evidence stating that MJ would ever lose in the finals, and we have 6 different occasions to back that up. On top of that, we have 6 FMVPs to back that up. GOAT gonna GOAT in any era.

[NBAGOAT]

And how does the simulation take into account that once MJ is in the finals, he never loses? If he never loses in the finals, why would the team he's on change so much that it wouldn't 3 peat? If anything is flawed, it's the model for the simulation. There is no evidence stating that MJ would ever lose in the finals, and we have 6 different occasions to back that up. On top of that, we have 6 FMVPs to back that up. GOAT gonna GOAT in any era.

Yes you're assuming Jordan still plays with Pippen/Grant or Pippen/Rodman/Kukoc which isn't true and you're assuming Jordan doesn't face better teams in the finals in the modern era which isn't true either.

[Straight_Ballin]

Yes you're assuming Jordan still plays with Pippen/Grant or Pippen/Rodman/Kukoc which isn't true and you're assuming Jordan doesn't face better teams in the finals in the modern era which isn't true either.

Nope, I'm saying that in today's era of collusion, after 6-7 years in the league MJ will have a team good enough to be in the finals and dominate as we have no data to support that MJ loses in the finals. Why do you think Lebron is in the finals every year? It certainly isn't because he's a better player than MJ. So given what we know about Lebron's success and making it to the finals and what we know about MJ's success in the finals, it's not that hard to connect the dots. All you can go off of is what we know about MJ, and the present state of the NBA. Anything else is pure speculation predicated on "what ifs".

[NBAGOAT]

Nope, I'm saying that in today's era of collusion, after 6-7 years in the league MJ will have a team good enough to be in the finals and dominate as we have no data to support that MJ loses in the finals. Why do you think Lebron is in the finals every year? It certainly isn't because he's a better player than MJ. So given what we know about Lebron's success and making it to the finals and what we know about MJ's success in the finals, it's not that hard to connect the dots. All you can go off of is what we know about MJ, and the present state of the NBA. Anything else is pure speculation predicated on "what ifs".

this collusion shit is just dumb but I won't even bother. It's more than just speculation to say that the Spurs or Lakers from this era were better than the Jazz which is who MJ lost to in the simulation.

[Straight_Ballin]

this collusion shit is just dumb but I won't even bother. It's more than just speculation to say that the Spurs or Lakers from this era were better than the Jazz which is who MJ lost to in the simulation.

You're still not getting it.

Today's supposid best player in the EAST has gone to the finals 7 times and will come away with 2 rings.

Jordan was in the finals 6 times and came away with 6 rings. He DID NOT KNOW HOW to lose in the finals.

Jordan as a player > Lebron as a player

So how the hell would a Jordan who enters the league in say 2010 or 2007 or whatever you consider modern era not dominate the entire league more so than Lebron or Kobe assuming he plays in the east and has a team good enough to be in the finals? All evidence and speculation points to the fact that he would dominate based on how the current era is.

Can you imagine MJ incorporating flopping into his game like some of these losers in today's era ONTOP of his offensive and defensive skill set? :lol Shit would be over before it even started. You think Harden gets away with shit? Imagine someone as competitive as MJ playing in this flopfest era.

[MiseryCityTexas]

He would probably average more than 30 in today's era.

[Straight_Ballin]

He would probably average more than 30 in today's era.

Probably get 30 on foul shots alone due to encorporating acting and flopping into his game. At least for the first year until they changed the rules due him exploiting them so badly to his advantage.

[AirBonner]

MJ would have 0 Championships. No Pippen.