76ers: Okafor and Noel on Trading Block

[Meticode]

Who wants?

Source: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15769627/philadelphia-76ers-explore-trades-involving-jahlil-okafor-nerlens-noel

[Kiddlovesnets]

The Nets will trade Brook Lopez to 76ers for Okafor and Noel, make it happen!
:bowdown:

[KingPush]

Mozgov, Mo, and future draft pick for Okafor

[HylianNightmare]

Vuc and dipo for either

[IGOTGAME]

They can have Clarkson for Okafor

[AirTupac]

Clarkson + Lou Williams + 32nd pick for Noel

get it done Mitch.

Russell
Derozan
Ingram
Randle
Noel
:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Inferno]

Can Noel pass?

[ROCSteady]

Why not Embiid then

[sfballa13]

Betting on Embiid will be the first mistake of the new Sixers regime

Sixers need to take out the trash and cash in on Hinkie's hard work

They have 5 first round picks and 7 2nd round picks to use as sweeteners in any deals along with a bunch of young productive players on tiny deals like Holmes, Stauskas, Wood, Covington, Grant, Thompson


Trade #1: Kings
Embiid, Saric, Landry, Holmes, Stauskas, Sacramento picks back (2018, 2019)
for
Cousins, Koufos

Kings get tons of talent in return for Cousins who may not stay

Trade #2: Bulls
Okafor, Miami + OKC 2016 1st round picks, 2017 Lakers 1st round pick
for
Butler, Mirotic

Bulls get a franchise center in Okafor and the Lakers pick next year along with a few first rounders

Sign Jeremy Lin

Lin / Marshall
Butler / Thompson
Ingram-Simmons / Covington - Grant
Cousins / Mirotic - Wood
Noel / Koufos

Two veterans in Butler-Cousins and two young guys in Ingram/Simmons and Noel

Could see them making some noise next season

No need to wait on Embiid or Saric or gamble on taking young guys with any of those 1sts and seconds, use them all up now to win now and turn the franchise around

[CelticBaller]

Celtics

[bluechox2]

not surprised...they will trade this years first rounder next summer

[KingPush]

Clarkson + Lou Williams + 32nd pick for Noel

get it done Mitch.

Russell
Derozan
Ingram
Randle
Noel
:bowdown: :bowdown:
You really think Noel is worth that much?

[oh the horror]

How do you trade both when Embiid is a huge question mark?

[ClipperRevival]

Clarkson + Lou Williams + 32nd pick for Noel

get it done Mitch.

Russell
Derozan
Ingram
Randle
Noel
:bowdown: :bowdown:

I don't know if Noel is a long term answer because he has question marks with his motivation/desire but athletically, the guy is a freak. I would definitely do that trade though and take that chance because his ceiling is high if he's motivated.

I also love our 1-4. The big question now is who do we make our 5. Noel? Ezeli? Whiteside?

[ClipperRevival]

Honestly I would love both Neol and Okafor on the Lakers. They compliment each other perfectly. And with Ingram at the 3 and Derozan at the 2, our 2-4 is set in stone. Finding a good 1 is like the easiest thing to do in today's NBA. The one guy I would be hesitant to give up is Randle as I really like his potential but if it means getting Noel/Okafor in return, I'll let him go.

[ClipperRevival]

Noel is an athletic freak. The type of raw talent that would go #1 overall is some drafts. If he's properly motivated, this guy can be a devastating defender, rim protector and rim roller. He has that KG type build and athleticsm.

Philly is once again dumb because everyone now knows they want to move guys, which lowers their leverage. Lakers should be trying hard to get this guy. You just can't teach what this guy has.

[Lebron23]

Noel's ceiling is the next Marcus Camby. Okafor > Noel.

[bdreason]

How do you trade both when Embiid is a huge question mark?

Because you can't play Okafor and Noel together in the modern NBA and be successful. One of your forwards has to be able to shoot.

[Duderonomy]

Noel can go to any team who is weak at center. I'm sure the Mavs,Lakers,Blazers,etc would love him. Noel will command some money next year. 15-20 mil a season.

Okafor has better upside but fewer teams could use him. Half court oriented offensives.

[jbryan1984]

How many more times will they continue to re-build?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Instead of focusing on who they want to trade shouldn't they be thinking about who they want to add? A team with a vision of how they want to build would be making potential trades based on players they think will fit their desired style. If you are just saying that you are willing to deal your top talents it will get offers but shouldn't they have an idea of who they want and be making phone calls to try and get them, seeing what teams want in return and then going from there? Might as well have let Hinke continue doing his thing. This is right in line with his style.

[WolfGang]

They shouldn't trade Oak. Just get Brandon Ingram and hope for a new age Kobe and shaq.

[T_L_P]

Clarkson + Lou Williams + 32nd pick for Noel

get it done Mitch.

Russell
Derozan
Ingram
Randle
Noel
:bowdown: :bowdown:

I don't even think I'd do Clarkson for Noel straight-up. Adding in Lou (who is a shit player to be fair) and a pick seems like too much.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Because you can't play Okafor and Noel together in the modern NBA and be successful. One of your forwards has to be able to shoot.

Okafor can shoot

[Sarcastic]

Because you can't play Okafor and Noel together in the modern NBA and be successful. One of your forwards has to be able to shoot.


Actually they played well together once they got Ish Smith. The big problem early in the year was they had no PG, but that was done on purpose with the intention of being awful.

[Cleverness]

How do you trade both when Embiid is a huge question mark?

They're waiting until he's healthy so they can trade him too:lol

[SwishSquared]

You really think Noel is worth that much?He's worth more. Lou Williams doesn't have much value b/c he's a bench chucker and Clarkson is a RFA, meaning he can't be moved unless it's a S&T situation.

Noel is a great athlete for a C, has an above avg REB% when he's playing C, and has been very good defensively when healthy and playing C. He checked out way too much this year playing PF on both ends alongside Jah though. Also he had some nagging type injuries it seemed.

He's a full time 5 basically. He has above avg vision offensively for a C, can't catch a non-lob pass, and can be bullied in the post. But he thrives defending in space and protecting the rim.

[SwishSquared]

Noel is an athletic freak. The type of raw talent that would go #1 overall is some drafts. If he's properly motivated, this guy can be a devastating defender, rim protector and rim roller. He has that KG type build and athleticsm.

Philly is once again dumb because everyone now knows they want to move guys, which lowers their leverage. Lakers should be trying hard to get this guy. You just can't teach what this guy has.Hinkie caught flak for never leaking stuff to the media, but his trades were always a surprise, and he thus got excellent value.

I agree that being this candid with your strategy only hurts your bargaining position.

[ClipperRevival]

76er fans, any news on Okafor/Noel?

I would love Noel on the Lakers. What would you guys take? Heard Embiid worked out today and he might be ready to go which would make Noel more tradeable?

[ClipperRevival]

I don't even think I'd do Clarkson for Noel straight-up. Adding in Lou (who is a shit player to be fair) and a pick seems like too much.

:oldlol: :facepalm

Clarkson is nothing but a very good 1st guard off the bench or below average starter. Noel is a KG type athletic freak. Dude can be a monster if properly motivated. They aren't even in the same ball park in terms of value.

[LilEddyCurry]

Both are underrated. Noel needs a good point-guard and a good system to be good. Okafor needs spacing and a good passer to get him to his preferred positions down-low. Both of which The Sixers did not have last season.

Also, rookies especially the two of them need a good culture and veterans in which The Sixers did not have.

[ClipperRevival]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/76ers-are-reportedly-shopping-noel-okafor-but-prefer-to-keep-one-of-the-two-big-men/

Looks like 76ers prefer to keep Noel over Okafor.

[hateraid]

Neither is going to LA unless the number 2 pick is involved. So don't get your hopes up.
I'm going to love that first rounder next year though :lol

[fourkicks44]

There are heaps of rumors swirling around right now, HEAPS.

The an interesting and recent one I have seen lately is talk of Paul George coming to Philly in exchange for Okafor and the Lakers lottery pick.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/06/11/nba-rumors-philadelphia-76ers-linked-to-indiana-pacers/

I personally think they should wait till the trade deadline and see how Embid is panning out before they make any moves like this. If they are going to trade either Noel or Okafor I would rather see them deal with the Suns or Celtics to try and secure Jamal Murray in the draft.

Plenty of money for free agents later, and I don't think they should make a move to get George because they are not quite ready to contend. If they trade they should trade for youth.

[hateraid]

There are heaps of rumors swirling around right now, HEAPS.

The an interesting and recent one I have seen lately is talk of Paul George coming to Philly in exchange for Okafor and the Lakers lottery pick.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/06/11/nba-rumors-philadelphia-76ers-linked-to-indiana-pacers/

I personally think they should wait till the trade deadline and see how Embid is panning out before they make any moves like this. If they are going to trade either Noel or Okafor I would rather see them deal with the Suns or Celtics to try and secure Jamal Murray in the draft.

Plenty of money for free agents later, and I don't think they should make a move to get George because they are not quite ready to contend. If they trade they should trade for youth.

I'm still on board for the Booker and #5 trade for Okafor and future #1st. Then signing Crabbe.
The options are still open at #5. We don't necessarily have to take Murray or Hield. Use 24 and 26 to draft Tearreun Prince and Cat Barber.

Projected lineup

Hield
Crabbe
Booker
Simmons
Noel

With Ish, Covy, Staukus, Hollis Thompson, Grant, Saric, and Embiid off the bench. Solid bench

[Run&Gun=Fun]

How do you trade both when Embiid is a huge question mark?

They can't trade embiid, none of the other 29 Gm's are going to take that risk.

[Nastradamus]

They can't trade embiid, none of the other 29 Gm's are going to take that risk.

I'm not so sure about that. The upside is so immense

[beastee]

I'm not so sure about that. The upside is so immense
But the return will not be.

[oarabbus]

Noel is an athletic freak. The type of raw talent that would go #1 overall is some drafts. If he's properly motivated, this guy can be a devastating defender, rim protector and rim roller. He has that KG type build and athleticsm.

Philly is once again dumb because everyone now knows they want to move guys, which lowers their leverage. Lakers should be trying hard to get this guy. You just can't teach what this guy has.

Yeah, some really sh1tty drafts like the one where Bennett was picked 1st