What is "1-9" ?

[kurple]

Dont get it.

[inclinerator]

1-9 in first rounds

record for jodon

[Indian guy]

MJ's playoff record without Pippen.

[Gileraracer]

Something Lebron stans use to make their idol and his finals record look better

[BigTicket]

Jerry West's finals record ?

[Disaprine]

Something Lebron stans use to make their idol and his finals record look better
this :lol

[FultzNationRISE]

:roll:

[Full Court]

Also Lebum's field goal shooting in the 4th quarter last game against the Warriors.

:lol

[La Frescobaldi]

Something Lebron stans use to make their idol and his finals record look better

The Pistons talked about it in the late 1980s as did tv color commentators

[Bawkish]

also Bron's clutch free throws

[TheGoatest]

Something Lebron stans use to make their idol and his finals record look better

Finals > playoffs
4-10 > 1-9

Therefore overall:

4-10 in the finals >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-9 in the playoffs

[Bawkish]

Finals > playoffs
4-10 > 1-9

Therefore overall:

4-10 in the finals >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-9 in the playoffs

so by the same logic, you agree that 6/6>>>>>>>>4/10??

[TheGoatest]

so by the same logic, you agree that 6/6>>>>>>>>4/10??

The 6-6 at the finals level, which is obviously affected by the presence of The Great Scott Pippen, becomes irrelevant when your record at the lower level is only 1-9 without the presence of The Great Scott Pippen.

[Baller789]

The 6-6 at the finals level, which is obviously affected by the presence of The Great Scott Pippen, becomes irrelevant when your record at the lower level is only 1-9 without the presence of The Great Scott Pippen.

Your logic doesn't even make sense.

You accept a playoffs vs finals comparison,
Yet you reject a finals vs finals comparison.

Spock would get a migraine with your mental gymnastics. :lol

[Bawkish]

The 6-6 at the finals level, which is obviously affected by the presence of The Great Scott Pippen, becomes irrelevant when your record at the lower level is only 1-9 without the presence of The Great Scott Pippen.

you said Finals > playoffs so why would it be irrelevant?

[TheGoatest]

you said Finals > playoffs so why would it be irrelevant?

Because having a record as crappy as 1-9 at a lower level is more bad than 6-6 is good. Jordan extremists jump through hoops in order to avoid understanding the most basic logic. :oldlol:

[Bawkish]

Because having a record as crappy as 1-9 at a lower level is more bad than 6-6 is good. Jordan extremists jump through hoops in order to avoid understanding the most basic logic. :oldlol:

you just contradicted yourself, you said Finals > playoffs so how does being 1-9 in playoffs is worse than being 6/6 in the finals

[TheGoatest]

you just contradicted yourself, you said Finals > playoffs so how does being 1-9 in playoffs is worse than being 6/6 in the finals

Keep writing fiction, Jordan extremist. :oldlol: I said that having a 1-9 playoff record without The Great Scott Pippen automatically negates having a 6-6 finals record with The Great Scottie Pippen. When Player A is not able to have a record better than 1-9 at a lower level without Player B on his team, but is able to have a 6-6 record at a higher level with Player B on his team, then that is irrefutable proof that the 6-6 record is 100% due to Player B and not Player A. Any unbiased person would see something as blatantly obvious as this. But that doesn't stop a Jordan extremist trying to make it look like it is the tail that is wagging the dog. :roll:

[Bawkish]

Keep writing fiction, Jordan extremist. :oldlol: I said that having a 1-9 playoff record without The Great Scott Pippen automatically negates having a 6-6 finals record with The Great Scottie Pippen. When Player A is not able to have a record better than 1-9 at a lower level without Player B on his team, but is able to have a 6-6 record at a higher level with Player B on his team, then that is irrefutable proof that the 6-6 record is 100% due to Player B and not Player A. Any unbiased person would see something as blatantly obvious as this. But that doesn't stop a Jordan extremist trying to make it look like it is the tail that is wagging the dog. :roll:

https://i.imgflip.com/2j9fqm.jpg

[Gohan]

Every player has a flaw just like you can bring up jordans flaws lebron had even more flaws. Hell, even the juggernaut iverson had flaws

[Baller789]

Keep writing fiction, Jordan extremist. :oldlol: I said that having a 1-9 playoff record without The Great Scott Pippen automatically negates having a 6-6 finals record with The Great Scottie Pippen. When Player A is not able to have a record better than 1-9 at a lower level without Player B on his team, but is able to have a 6-6 record at a higher level with Player B on his team, then that is irrefutable proof that the 6-6 record is 100% due to Player B and not Player A. Any unbiased person would see something as blatantly obvious as this. But that doesn't stop a Jordan extremist trying to make it look like it is the tail that is wagging the dog. :roll:

And what mainstream source shares this narrative?

[Jasper]

Dont get it.

your IQ

[Akeem34TheDream]

https://i.imgflip.com/2j9fqm.jpg

:lol

[bison]

Something Lebron stans use to make their idol and his finals record look better

This is basically the correct answer.

"1-9" was never a criticism lobbed at Jordan, even years after his retirement and enough time had passed that we could put MJ's career in perspective. It wasn't until 2014-2015 the "1-9" became a talking point. So you had 20 years to use the "1-9" argument, but no one ever did because it wasn't relevant in any context. It's obviously retroactive nitpicking to boost Lebron, whose stans can never make the case for Lebron as the GOAT on Lebron's own merits, but only by slandering previous hall of famers in addition to Lebrons teammates. I've never seen a stan of any other player employ this tactic. I think a lot of this has to do with how social media has severly dumbed down sports debate into simple slogans like "1-9" or "6-0", but also the types of seething personalities that make up the Lebron fan base

[Johnny32]

This is basically the correct answer.

"1-9" was never a criticism lobbed at Jordan, even years after his retirement and enough time had passed that we could put MJ's career in perspective. It wasn't until 2014-2015 the "1-9" became a talking point. So you had 20 years to use the "1-9" argument, but no one ever did because it wasn't relevant in any context. It's obviously retroactive nitpicking to boost Lebron, whose stans can never make the case for Lebron as the GOAT on Lebron's own merits, but only by slandering previous hall of famers in addition to Lebrons teammates. I've never seen a stan of any other player employ this tactic. I think a lot of this has to do with how social media has severly dumbed down sports debate into simple slogans like "1-9" or "6-0", but also the types of seething personalities that make up the Lebron fan base

almost like no one gave a shit about finals record either until someone started getting close to their childhood heroes legacy.

[8Ball]

almost like no one gave a shit about finals record either until someone started getting close to their childhood heroes legacy.

ding ding ding

[Full Court]

Keep writing fiction, Jordan extremist. :oldlol: I said that having a 1-9 playoff record without The Great Scott Pippen automatically negates having a 6-6 finals record with The Great Scottie Pippen. When Player A is not able to have a record better than 1-9 at a lower level without Player B on his team, but is able to have a 6-6 record at a higher level with Player B on his team, then that is irrefutable proof that the 6-6 record is 100% due to Player B and not Player A. Any unbiased person would see something as blatantly obvious as this. But that doesn't stop a Jordan extremist trying to make it look like it is the tail that is wagging the dog. :roll:

And yet GoatTits will always ignore that Brony's had for more help than Jordan ever did, and STILL only managed to get 4/10.

:lol

Oh, and by the way, -86.

[Baller789]

almost like no one gave a shit about finals record either until someone started getting close to their childhood heroes legacy.

Or some group were basically grasping for straws to make their idol look better.

[3ba11]

Every player has a flaw just like you can bring up jordans flaws








What are Jordan's flaws



.

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher



Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED



Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.





Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724




http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats



Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry



Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html



"The weatherman says the weather is changing soon and predicts a thunderstorm," LeBron wrote alongside a photo of himself and Anthony Davis. "It's coming. Prepare and take proper caution measures to stay safe."

[TheGoatest]

And yet GoatTits will always ignore that Brony's had for more help than Jordan ever did, and STILL only managed to get 4/10.

:lol

Oh, and by the way, -86.

:oldlol:

The Great Scott Pippen saved Jordan's 1-9 career. Jordan is forever ball-and-chained to The Great Scott Pippen.
Until his arrival, Jordan was having sub-.500 seasons with a teammate who averaged 15/13/4.
Jordan as a rookie had a teammate (23 ppg on 55%) who shat on any teammate LeBron had for his first 7 seasons = Fact
Jordan as a rookie had a third option (16 ppg in 27 mpg) who shat on any #3 guy LeBron had for his first 7 seasons = Fact

[Baller789]

:oldlol:

The Great Scott Pippen saved Jordan's 1-9 career. Jordan is forever ball-and-chained to The Great Scott Pippen.
Until his arrival, Jordan was having sub-.500 seasons with a teammate who averaged 15/13/4.
Jordan as a rookie had a teammate (23 ppg on 55%) who shat on any teammate LeBron had for his first 7 seasons = Fact
Jordan as a rookie had a third option (16 ppg in 27 mpg) who shat on any #3 guy LeBron had for his first 7 seasons = Fact

So youre saying Jordan needed an all-star teammate to win championships like 95% of star players and basically 100% of dynasties?

[meat]

Because having a record as crappy as 1-9 at a lower level is more bad than 6-6 is good. Jordan extremists jump through hoops in order to avoid understanding the most basic logic. :oldlol:

This is disingenuous though. I don't get it myself. 1-9 was the total win loss record his first three years. 6 out of 6 was finals appearances not win loss. Two different variables.

[meat]

So shouldn't it be 1st round exits 1-9 and finals appearances 24-10??

[Axe]

https://i.imgflip.com/2j9fqm.jpg
Poor troll. He's so desperate to keep on going with his daily baldan crusade.

[meat]

So shouldn't it be 1st round exits 1-9 and finals appearances 24-10??

Hello weirdos. Am I correct in this? I don't mean to interrupt yalls homosexual circle jerk. I know you boys all love each other.

[3ba11]

Hello weirdos. Am I correct in this? I don't mean to interrupt yalls homosexual circle jerk. I know you boys all love each other.


Nearly everyone like Durant, Lebron, Giannis and Curry were lottery in their first few seasons, so it isn't a knock to lose in your first few years if nearly everyone does it.

If the only knock on Jordan's career is that he lost when everyone else lost, then it isn't a knock and he infact had a perfect career... Indeed, he's the only player that never lost as the favorite or with homecourt, and he's the only guy that never lost with a good team (6-0 with 1 or 2 seeds, while everyone else lost 5+ times with top seeds)

Furthermore, everyone in history needed equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention for various playoff runs, so they didn't always face maximum defensive attention - any period without facing maximum defensive attention is inflated stats compared to Jordan, who always faced maximum defensive attention - he carried the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

[Full Court]

So youre saying Jordan needed an all-star teammate to win championships like 95% of star players and basically 100% of dynasties?

GoatTits still hasn't figured out that it's a team sports. :lol