GOAT season my ass

[3ball]

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Jordan nearly doubles Curry's WS/48:



Per 100 Possessions


JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 PO: 37.6 pts.. 8.8 reb..4 8.7 ast.. 6.2 tov.. 2.9 stl.. 0.0 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 110 ORtg.. 24.8 PER.. 0.181 WS/48
JORDAN CAREER:. 43.3 pts.. 8.3 reb... 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg.. 28.6 PER.. 0.255 WS/48



Jordan had superior per POSSESSION efficiency (ortg), which is more important than Curry's shooting efficiency - shooting efficiency FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA of per-possession efficiency.. Jordan's higher per possession efficiency was due to better midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26) efficiency, and far less turnovers.

Jordan's higher efficiency is remarkable considering he carried a bigger load: he produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with far less turnovers, while also carrying a bigger load on defense.

Jordan was superior on both ends, even though Curry's teammates spaced the floor for him, and Jordan's didn't - Jordan's Bulls only attempted 5 threes per game in 1991, compared to 25 per game for today's teams (30 per game for the Warriors and Cavs).. Accordingly, his stats would explode in today's spaced-out game.

Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26).. Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting inside 20 feet than Curry.

[warriorfan]

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Jordan nearly doubles Curry's WS/48:



Per 100 Possessions


JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 PO: 37.6 pts.. 8.8 reb..4 8.7 ast.. 6.2 tov.. 2.9 stl.. 0.0 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 110 ORtg.. 24.8 PER.. 0.181 WS/48
JORDAN CAREER:. 43.3 pts.. 8.3 reb... 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 2.7 stl.. 1.1 blk.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg.. 28.6 PER.. 0.255 WS/48



Jordan had superior per POSSESSION efficiency (ortg), which is more important than Curry's shooting efficiency - shooting efficiency FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA of per-possession efficiency.. Jordan's higher per possession efficiency was due to far better midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26) efficiency, and far less turnovers.

Jordan's higher efficiency is remarkable considering he carried a bigger load: he produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with far less turnovers, while also carrying a bigger load on defense.

Jordan was superior on both ends, even though Curry's teammates spaced the floor for him, and Jordan's didn't - Jordan's Bulls only attempted 5 threes per game in 1991, compared to 25 per game for today's teams (30 per game for the Warriors and Cavs).. Accordingly, his stats would explode in today's spaced-out game.

Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26).. Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting inside 20 feet than Curry.

*Jordan did not have an MCL tear injury

[Mr. Jabbar]

shookball :lol

[KingPush]

*Jordan did not have an MCL tear injury
*Neither did Curry

[SouBeachTalents]

FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA

Is that how the doctor diagnosed your autism?

[3ball]

*Jordan did not have an MCL tear injury


It was a sprain, like a sprained ankle.. Jordan would've played on it.

But more importantly, Curry isn't even the Warriors' scoring leader in these playoffs, whereas Jordan was his team's scoring leader for every single series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

No other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series of their careers, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

In addition to his goat scoring load, Jordan also led his team in passing (he led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49)), and played the best defense ever at his position.. This is the best performance and biggest load ever carried - Curry doesn't carry the Warriors like this.

[warriorfan]

It was a sprain, like a sprained ankle.. Jordan would've played on it.

But more importantly, Curry isn't even the Warriors' scoring leader in these playoffs, whereas Jordan was his team's scoring leader for every single series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

No other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series of their careers, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

In addition to his goat scoring load, Jordan also led his team in passing (he led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49)), and played the best defense ever at his position.. This is the best performance and biggest load ever carried - Curry doesn't carry the Warriors like this.

No he wouldn't, there is no data available to show evidence of Jordan sustaining those averages over an entire playoff with an MCL tear

Curry had an MCL tear, a sprain is a tear by definition but it was also more of a severe injury than reported.

Curry had and still has a torn MCL. That is an undeniable statement.

[GrapeApe]

It was a sprain, like a sprained ankle.. Jordan would've played on it.

But more importantly, Curry isn't even the Warriors' scoring leader in these playoffs, whereas Jordan was his team's scoring leader for every single series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

No other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series of their careers, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

In addition to his goat scoring load, Jordan also led his team in passing (he led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49)), and played the best defense ever at his position.. This is the best performance and biggest load ever carried - Curry doesn't carry the Warriors like this.

Lol. No, your god would not have played with a grade 2 MCL sprain.

Don't you ever get tired of posting the same stuff over and over? The fact that you're so insecure leads me to believe that you know Jordan has some ****** in the GOAT armor. Why else would you perpetually try to validate his status? If you were 100% secure you wouldn't feel the need to constantly try to prove that Jordan was better than ___fill in the blank___.

:oldlol: @ this site censoring ch-inks

[3ball]

No he wouldn't

Curry had an MCL tear, a sprain is a tear by definition but it was also more of a severe injury than reported.

Curry had and still has a torn MCL. That is an undeniable statement.

Your post is misinformation - this is from Healthline (http://www.healthline.com/health/medial-collateral-ligament-mcl-injury-of-the-knee#Overview1):



MCL injuries can be grades 1, 2, or 3:


A grade 1 MCL injury is the least severe. It means that your ligament has been stretched but not torn.

A grade 2 MCL injury means that your ligament has been partially torn. This usually causes some instability in your knee joint.

A grade 3 MCL injury is the most severe type of ligament injury. It occurs when your ligament has been completely torn. Joint instability is common in a grade 3 MCL sprain.

http://www.healthline.com/health/medial-collateral-ligament-mcl-injury-of-the-knee#Overview1



So Curry's Grade 1 MCL was a SPRAIN.

[KingPush]

Lol. No, your god would not have played with a grade 2 MCL sprain.

Don't you ever get tired of posting the same stuff over and over? The fact that you're so insecure leads me to believe that you know Jordan has some ****** in the GOAT armor. Why else would you perpetually try to validate his status? If you were 100% secure you wouldn't feel the need to constantly try to prove that Jordan was better than ___fill in the blank___.

:oldlol: @ this site censoring ch-inks
It was a grade 1 sprain bozo

[G0ATbe]

You really can't compare players from 90s to players from today. The game was just so watered down back then, doesnt make sense to debate. And even when you do Curry comes out on top regardless:confusedshrug:

[90sgoat]

Curryfan SHOOK.

Little boi Curry owned at ALL stats.

Curryfan meltdown.

[3ball]

Lol. No, your god would not have played with a grade 2 MCL sprain.


Curry had a Grade 1 MCL injury, which is a sprain, like an ankle sprain.. Jordan would've played on it.

More importantly, Curry isn't even the Warriors' scoring leader in these playoffs, whereas Jordan was his team's scoring leader for every single series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

No other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series of their careers, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

In addition to his goat scoring load, Jordan also led his team in passing (he led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49)), and played the best defense ever at his position.. This is the best performance and biggest load ever carried - Curry doesn't carry the Warriors like this

[bigkingsfan]

ordan would have been eliminated by now.

[AirTupac]

ordan would have been eliminated by now.

Another bad post by bigretardfan :oldlol:

[bigkingsfan]

Another bad post by bigretardfan :oldlol:
You're my #1 team :oldlol:

[GrapeApe]

It was a grade 1 sprain bozo

Grade 1, whatever. The point is Jordan wouldn't have played on it. It's not an issue of just playing through pain. There's structural damage. A doctor is not going to clear someone to play under those circumstances. Whiteside had the same injury and he was he was held out as well.

[3ball]

Grade 1, whatever. The point is Jordan wouldn't have played on it. It's not an issue of just playing through pain. There's structural damage. A doctor is not going to clear someone to play under those circumstances. Whiteside had the same injury and he was he was held out as well.
It's a medical fact that Grade 1's are sprains, like an ankle sprain.. Guys like Jordan and Kobe routinely play on injuries like that.

More importantly, Curry isn't even the Warriors' scoring leader in these playoffs, whereas Jordan was his team's scoring leader for every single series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

No other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series of their careers, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

In addition to his goat scoring load, Jordan also led his team in passing (he led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49)), and played the best defense ever at his position.. This is the best performance and biggest load ever carried - Curry doesn't carry the Warriors like this

[3ball]

The game was just so watered down back then, doesnt make sense to debate.


Today's top wings can't even shoot - Lebron's midrange efficiency is below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389794&postcount=17), while his career 3-point percentage is 31% in the playoffs.

The reality is that Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler ALL (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) have poor midrange and 3-point efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows good athletes easier access to the rim.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except Jordan was a goat midrange shooter, much better than Curry (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26) - essentially, MJ had Lebron and Westbrook's athleticism, but with better midrange shooting than Steph Curry.






You really can't compare players from 90s to players from today.


Today's players achieve their stats in an easier environment because they have teammates spacing the floor for them, whereas players in previous eras achieved stats WITHOUT teammates spacing:

Jordan's Bulls only attempted 5 threes per game in 1991, compared to 25 per game for today's teams (30 per game for the Warriors and Cavs).. Accordingly, his stats would explode in today's spaced-out game.

Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26).. Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting inside 20 feet than Curry..

[GrapeApe]

It's a medical fact that Grade 1's are sprains, like an ankle sprain.. Guys like Jordan and Kobe routinely play on injuries like that.

More importantly, Curry isn't even the Warriors' scoring leader in these playoffs, whereas Jordan was his team's scoring leader for every single series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

No other all-time great led their team in scoring for every series of their careers, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

In addition to his goat scoring load, Jordan also led his team in passing (he led Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49)), and played the best defense ever at his position.. This is the best performance and biggest load ever carried - Curry doesn't carry the Warriors like this

Not if a doctor doesn't clear them to play. You seem to be struggling with this concept. A lot of players WANT to play through injuries. In fact most do. It's irrelevant if they aren't medically cleared. NBA players are extremely valuable assets, and it's not always their decision whether or not to play through an injury. If they are ruled out by a doctor, they don't play. It's that simple.

[Poetry]

Curry had an MCL tear, a sprain is a tear by definition but it was also more of a severe injury than reported.

Curry had and still has a torn MCL. That is an undeniable statement.

"Classification

[I][B]First degree sprain

[G-train]

Grade 1, whatever. The point is Jordan wouldn't have played on it. It's not an issue of just playing through pain. There's structural damage. A doctor is not going to clear someone to play under those circumstances. Whiteside had the same injury and he was he was held out as well.

Jordan played on a permanent Grad 1 for his whole Wizards career :lol