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L.Kizzle
05-30-2016, 02:30 PM
Interesting
[QUOTE]To get a better idea of which musicians have had the most staying power, I analyzed the weeks between the top 50 Billboard artists' first and last "peak" in the Hot 100, with peaks referring to the date a song reached its highest point in the Hot 100.

I found that top artists can survive for upward of two decades

32jazz
05-30-2016, 03:53 PM
Interesting


To say the least. I'm not the least bit stunned at how loyal R&B / Soul Legends have such a loyal following.

I was actually surprised at the " Country" artists poor longevity since I hear it's audience actually buys the most physical CD's( don't stream as much as others).



I guess the charts are only part of the story & touring/concert numbers may give a fuller picture considering the Grateful Dead example.

L.Kizzle
05-31-2016, 07:25 PM
To say the least. I'm not the least bit stunned at how loyal R&B / Soul Legends have such a loyal following.

I was actually surprised at the " Country" artists poor longevity since I hear it's audience actually buys the most physical CD's( don't stream as much as others).



I guess the charts are only part of the story & touring/concert numbers may give a fuller picture considering the Grateful Dead example.
I actually am stunned by the R&B listing here. The three top guys here are the creme de la creme of R&B. MJ, Stevie and Prince. Other than those 3, that's it. No James Brown, Al Green, Marvin Gaye, Earth Wind & Fire which is surprising to me.

Country fans are very loyal, unlike R&B fans. That' really surprising.

And touring is a major part too.

DeuceWallaces
05-31-2016, 08:09 PM
To say the least. I'm not the least bit stunned at how loyal R&B / Soul Legends have such a loyal following.

I was actually surprised at the " Country" artists poor longevity since I hear it's audience actually buys the most physical CD's( don't stream as much as others).



I guess the charts are only part of the story & touring/concert numbers may give a fuller picture considering the Grateful Dead example.

Hot 100 isn't the same as the 200 album sales. Classic rock and country do sell a lot of full albums relative to many current artists. In fact, they made a special category for catalog sales because artists like Pink Floyd kept showing up in the top 200 over current artists labels and radio stations were trying to promote.

L.Kizzle
05-31-2016, 08:20 PM
Hot 100 isn't the same as the 200 album sales. Classic rock and country do sell a lot of full albums relative to many current artists. In fact, they made a special category for catalog sales because artists like Pink Floyd kept showing up in the top 200 over current artists labels and radio stations were trying to promote.
Hot 100 is the singles category, I believe. Those classic rock albums were counted on a chart called Catalog where albums from previous decades were counted. Every now and then an old album from like you say Pink Floyd and others would creed back into the charts. That actually changed after MJ's death. Which is the reason why so many Prince albums entered the top 50 after Prince's death.

andgar923
06-01-2016, 09:17 AM
I think it's somewhat misleading.

Unlike say Elvis, Beatles or MJ, Prince has been releasing new albums whereas the artists I just mentioned haven't (re-releases aren't the same as new material).

And no mention of Pink Floyd?

DSOTM has been on Billboard charts for 741 CONSECUTIVE weeks, and has been on the top pop album charts since 91. It has continued to sporadically appear on the Billboard 200 since then, reaching 900 weeks on the chart in April 2015

That's amazing any way one looks at it.











I just saw Pink Floyd's name on the list. Still doesn't add up.

32jazz
06-03-2016, 05:28 PM
I actually am stunned by the R&B listing here. The three top guys here are the creme de la creme of R&B. MJ, Stevie and Prince. Other than those 3, that's it. No James Brown, Al Green, Marvin Gaye, Earth Wind & Fire which is surprising to me.

Country fans are very loyal, unlike R&B fans. That' really surprising.

And touring is a major part too.


Point well taken on the small sample size of Black/R& B artist on the top 100 charts. Small sample size skewers the numbers seems in R&B/Soul favor.



Despite that I still believe R& B fans are among the most loyal. Frankie Beverly & Maze , Luther Vandross,Kool & the Gang & others can attest to this.



I think a more fair assessment of longevity would be to break each group down to top 40 since some acts like country may not do as well on the Hot 100 charts ,but check out the Country charts.

32jazz
06-03-2016, 05:36 PM
I think it's somewhat misleading.

Unlike say Elvis, Beatles or MJ, Prince has been releasing new albums whereas the artists I just mentioned haven't (re-releases aren't the same as new material).

And no mention of Pink Floyd?

DSOTM has been on Billboard charts for 741 CONSECUTIVE weeks, and has been on the top pop album charts since 91. It has continued to sporadically appear on the Billboard 200 since then, reaching 900 weeks on the chart in April 2015

That's amazing any way one looks at it.











I just saw Pink Floyd's name on the list. Still doesn't add up.

On 2nd thought I agree with your assessment about the criteria being misleading somewhat.

Some acts just don't do well on the billboard hit 100 ,but it doesn't mean they are irrelevant.




Do a top 40 Country, Top 40 R&B ,etc......to see how long individual acts remain relevant.


Example:

While someone like Luther Vandross or Willie Nelson may not perform as well on the Billboard Top Hot 100 charts they have longevity on R&B/ Country charts & are beloved.