Thanks OKC!!!.. You've proven GSW would be the Bulls' bitch in 90's

[3ball]

https://danceistherapy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tumblrharlemshakebowwow1.gif


Replace Westbrook or Durant with Jordan, and OKC destroys the Warriors..

This proves Jordan was goat, and that Curry would be MJ's bitch

[SexSymbol]

No, not really.
GSW would destroy Bulls with perimeter scoring and they have much more heart too.
Iguodala would give MJ fits.

[CelticBaller]

Nobody cares about the Bulls, Honestly.


Yet you keep bringing them back up? Why can't you see they are irrelevant. Nobody cares what they did 20 years ago

[MiseryCityTexas]

Bulls actually had a power forward that banged inside the paint. Not some guy that camps out on the three point lane for 4 quarters.

[AirBonner]

No, not really.
GSW would destroy Bulls with perimeter scoring and they have much more heart too.
Iguodala would give MJ fits.
:biggums: gac would be destroyed. When things get physical gac becomes invisible.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Ibaka is just a poor man's Horace Grant with a three point shot and better shot blocking capabilities.

[SexSymbol]

:biggums: gac would be destroyed. When things get physical gac becomes invisible.
90s teams are not that much physical than today's teams.
And the offenses and defenses are much too advanced for Bulls to keep up.
They're great for what they was, but this is just a new breed of basketball teams.
I've been coaching for quite some time, studying these teams for improvement, and the difference is staggering. Afters ome time, Bulls would come up with ways to defend GSW, but if we just straight up put these two against each other with no preparation, GSW would probably win by at least 20

[KingPush]

Jordan trying to guard Curry? :yaohappy:

He's never seen a player that accurate and deadly from 3

Curry would expose his defense

[Terahite]

GSW would lose to the Jazz in 6 before facing the Bulls

[3ball]

I've been coaching for quite some time, studying these teams for improvement, and the difference is staggering. Afters some time, the Bulls would come up with ways to defend GSW, but if we just straight up put these two against each other with no preparation, GSW would probably win by at least 20


The Bulls were GOAT even though they only took 15 threes per game in 1996, and therefore had shittier spacing than today's teams.

So just think how insane they'd be if they took 30 threes per game like the Warriors and today's teams, and therefore had much better spacing.. Obviously, their offense would explode, even though it was already #2 all-time (2nd highest ORtg ever).

[theaussieguy]

problem is for every 2 jordan would hit, gsw would hit a 3. The 2ball is a tired and archaic way of playing the game. Jordan was more suited to that style of ball with his athletic gifts and magical hands allowing him to take supreme control within the 3 point line and close to the rim.

But its no guarantee he would be even be as good as Durant from the 3 if he focused on it. Curry would be putting Jordan in a spin cycle almost every possession. This is new era talent of the likes we have never seen before. The ability to completely dumbfound ur defender with dazzling ball handling with the precision, speed and decisiveness of unheard of capacity on top being able to convert a shot after that fact, its just unguardable.

[SouBeachTalents]

Replace Westbrook or Durant with Jordan, and OKC destroys the Warriors..

This proves Jordan was goat, and that Curry would be MJ's bitch

Like Jordan was GP's in the Finals?

[MiseryCityTexas]

Not even sure if the Thunder could beat the 96-97 Houston Rockets. A past his prime 96-97 Hakeem was still waaaaaaaaaaaay better than current Steve Adams, and a past his prime 96-97 Charles Barkley was still better than current Ibaka by far, and old ass Drexler would destroy Roberson, and do enough to try to contain Durant defensively. Clyde was past his prime in 96, but he almost had a quadruple double against the Mitch Richmond era Sacramento Kings. So he could have still played at a high level against Durant.:oldlol:

[3ball]

problem is for every 2 jordan would hit, gsw would hit a 3.


The Bulls were GOAT even though they only took 15 threes per game in 1996, and therefore had shittier spacing than today's teams.

So just think how insane they'd be if they took 30 threes per game like the Warriors and today's teams, and therefore had much better spacing..

Obviously, with better spacing, the Bulls' offense would explode, even though it was already #2 all-time (2nd highest ORtg ever).

[3ball]

Like Jordan was GP's in the Finals?
You mean the series where Jordan averaged 31 ppg on 46% to get his Bulls an insurmountable 3-0 lead (while Pippen gave him zero help with 15 ppg on 34%), and then won the series Most Valuable Player award?

[SouBeachTalents]

You mean the series where Jordan averaged 31 ppg on 46% to get his Bulls an insurmountable 3-0 lead (while Pippen gave him zero help with 15 ppg on 34%), and then won the series Most Valuable Player award?

No, when Payton switched onto him after Game 3 and Jordan averaged 24 ppg on 37% with more turnovers than assists the rest of the series

[3ball]

Jordan was more suited to that style of ball with his athletic gifts and magical hands allowing him to take supreme control within the 3 point line and close to the rim.


Unlike Curry, Jordan achieved his stats WITHOUT teammates spacing the floor - the Bulls only attempted 5 threes per game in 1991, compared to 25 per game for today's teams (30 per game for the Warriors and Cavs).. Accordingly, Jordan's stats would explode in today's spaced-out game.

Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26).. Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting than Curry inside 20 feet.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Payton locked Jordan down a couple of times in the NBA Finals, but Jordan still won the championship, and Jordan still had games in that series where he dominated Payton's Sonics.

[Lodi Dodi]

My god, these kids think just because they beat a team with the MIGHTY Steve Adams on the floor after CHOKING away a series they are world beaters. This people are our future folks. :hammerhead:

[3ball]

No, when Payton switched onto him Games 4-6 and Jordan averaged 24 ppg on 37%


Jordan's FMVP award confirms that those 3 games amounted to garbage time and stat-padding time.

Jordan has never been a stat-padder in garbage time.

[bond10]

Bulls actually had a power forward that banged inside the paint. Not some guy that camps out on the three point lane for 4 quarters.

That has more to do with the rules and how the game is played today vs the 90s. Not the player's fault.

[3ball]

Payton locked Jordan down a couple of times in the NBA Finals, but Jordan still won the championship, and Jordan still had games in that series where he dominated Payton's Sonics.


Because of Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), the 1996 Finals were his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.

However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron and Kobe averaged 15 ppg, 17 ppg, and 22 ppg on 35% during their worst series.

[CuterThanRubio]

Complete opposite.

GSW proved you can't beat them without matching their firepower from distance, only the Cavs stand a chance against them!

Look at the discrepancy over the course of the series.


Imagine Kerr guarding Curry, he already DISPOSED of Westbrook, it wouldn't be close!

The RESILIENCY of GSW has never been matched by those Bulls, I bet if they faced a deficit against them it would be light out!

[Young X]

Complete opposite.

GSW proved you can't beat them without matching their firepower from distance, only the Cavs stand a chance against them!

Look at the discrepancy over the course of the series.


Imagine Kerr guarding Curry, he already DISPOSED of Westbrook, it wouldn't be close!

The RESILIENCY of GSW has never been matched by those Bulls, I bet if they faced a deficit against them it would be light out!They would never let it get to that point against a team like the Thunder in the first place.

Golden State going down 1-3 against the f*cking Thunder tells me all I need to know about this comparison.

[3ball]

GSW proved you can't beat them without matching their firepower from distance, only the Cavs stand a chance against them!


If the Bulls played today, their management would surround MJ and Scottie with 3-point shooters just like every other team surrounds their stars - so 3-point shooting wouldn't be an issue.

Of course, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing.. Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26)..

Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting than Curry inside 20 feet.

[bond10]

If the Bulls played today, their management would surround MJ and Scottie with 3-point shooters just like every other team surrounds their stars - so 3-point shooting wouldn't be an issue.

Of course, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing.. Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26)..

Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting than Curry inside 20 feet.

Plus who's to say MJ/Pippen wouldn't have started training their range and become insane at it. It's not like they were bad at range but rather they chose not to add the 3 ball to their arsenal.

[3ball]

Plus who's to say MJ/Pippen wouldn't have started training their range and become insane at it. It's not like they were bad at range but rather they chose not to add the 3 ball to their arsenal.
Of course - MJ and Scottie would be great 3-point shooters today - but we also know that if they played on TODAY'S Bulls team, management would surround them with 3-point shooters just like every other team in today's game.

Of course, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing.. Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26)..

Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting than Curry inside 20 feet.

[bigkingsfan]

Meltdown

[CuterThanRubio]

They would never let it get to that point against a team like the Thunder in the first place.

Golden State going down 1-3 against the f*cking Thunder tells me all I need to know about this comparison.

Yeah, The Thunder are a great team that would storm through the 90s and destroy anyone from that WEAK ERA!

Who's going to stop WB and KD? Kerr? Jud?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

GSW is just that good, and only the Cavs have enough firepower to give them a challenge!

Accept it and enjoy the new era, the revolution is upon is!

[plowking]

They would never let it get to that point against a team like the Thunder in the first place.

Golden State going down 1-3 against the f*cking Thunder tells me all I need to know about this comparison.

Those Bulls never played a team as good as the Thunder. At the end of the day, Westbrook is better than Payton, and Durant is a hell of a lot better than Kemp. Then add in the supporting cast, and the Thunder are just an absolutely, top to bottom, better team.

Now they face the Cavs, who have a player on par with Jordan in Lebron. Jordan has never faced an athlete, or player the level of himself. Curry has to.

[Young X]

People overrating this soft ass Thunder team like they're special or something. Please.

The Bulls faced the Jazz. You know, a team with two guys who were #2 ALL-TIME IN POINTS AND #1 ALL-TIME IN ASSISTS.

You're kidding yourself if you think this Thunder team is f*cking with the Bulls in any way.

[3ball]

At the end of the day, Westbrook is better than Payton


Says who... You?... OKC would be much better with Payton alongside Durant than Westbrook.

Also, Detlef Schrempf was a 3-time all-star and better than OKC's 3rd option.

After the Big 3 all-stars of Payton/Kemp/Detlef, the Sonics had the league leader in plus/minus Nate McMillan, along with Hersey Hawkins and Sam Perkins - this compares to anyone OKC has at the #4 thru 6 spots.





the Thunder are just an absolutely, top to bottom, better team.


The Sonics match or exceed their talent, but talent doesn't mean a team is better anyway - OKC had more talent than the Spurs, but the Spurs were the better team most years.

Similarly, the 1998 Lakers (Shaq + 3 more all-stars) and Spurs had more talent than the Jazz, but the Jazz destroyed both teams in the playoffs.





Jordan has never faced an athlete, or player the level of himself. Curry has to.


Neither Lebron nor Curry has faced a top 5 all-time player like Jordan did in 1991 Finals.

Also, Shaq is a top 10 all-time player, who Jordan swept in 1996 ECF while averaging 30/6/6 on 48%.






Now they face the Cavs, who have a player on par with Jordan in Lebron


What does "on par" mean?... It can't mean "as good", since Jordan scores 6 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg) - these things are more important and control the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds) and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

There's never been a #1 option that scored 6 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.. Furthermore, Lebron has many playoff series and even entire playoff runs where he isn't the team's scoring leader - otoh, Jordan led his team in scoring for every series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).

Ultimately, Lebron can't match Jordan's combination of goat scoring load, team-leading (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49) passing, and best-ever defense at his position.

[sportjames23]

People overrating this soft ass Thunder team like they're special or something. Please.

The Bulls faced the Jazz. You know, a team with two guys who were #2 ALL-TIME IN POINTS AND #1 ALL-TIME IN ASSISTS.

You're kidding yourself if you think this Thunder team is f*cking with the Bulls in any way.


Kids today caught in the now.

[Poetry]

Those Bulls never played a team as good as the Thunder. At the end of the day, Westbrook is better than Payton, and Durant is a hell of a lot better than Kemp.

I like both KD and WB, but I'd take Barkley and KJ over them.

[FKAri]

What gave GSW trouble was the perimeter defensive combo of Westbrook/Durant/Roberson and getting out rebounded.

The fact that the Thunder could switch all 3 of those guys on either Klay or Curry without losing any defensive pressure was huge. And guess what? The Bulls have the exact same advantage. Scottie/MJ/Harper would do the same and are better defenders. The Bulls win 8/10. If you take this advantage away from the Bulls then the Warriors would have a real chance of beating them 6/10.

[3ball]

Jordan has never faced an athlete (Shaq 1996 ECF), or player (Magic 1991 Finals) the level of himself.

Curry has to.


Lebron and Curry never faced a top 5 all-time player like Jordan did in 1991 Finals.

Also, Shaq is a top 10 all-time player, who Jordan swept in 1996 ECF while averaging 30/6/6 on 48%.

[NBAGOAT]

People overrating this soft ass Thunder team like they're special or something. Please.

The Bulls faced the Jazz. You know, a team with two guys who were #2 ALL-TIME IN POINTS AND #1 ALL-TIME IN ASSISTS.

You're kidding yourself if you think this Thunder team is f*cking with the Bulls in any way.

longevity are the reason for those stats not peak play. Malone even in his MVP years is comparable to Durant at his best. The Jazz were by no means perfect in big game situations either. Numerous bad series from Stockton and/or Malone. 5 1st round exits 4 of which they had hca. Meanwhile Durant/Westbrook have arguably 1 choke which was this year unless you count 2011. They're the one duo without a championship I don't feel that bad for since they exited the playoffs earlier than they should've plenty of times. No the Thunder aren't ****ing with the Bulls at their best but they're comparable to the Jazz.

[KobesFinger]

So just think how insane they'd be if they took 30 threes per game like the Warriors and today's teams, and therefore had much better spacing..


You think the Bulls would be hitting threes at a silly % if they upped their volume and with a longer line? Their % would go down.

Using your logic, Curry would be able to shoot better than Jordan from 2 if he simply doubled his volume.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Bulls would get massacred

[3ball]

Using your logic, Curry would be able to shoot better than Jordan from 2 if he simply doubled his volume.


3-pointers are mostly open (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406865) catch-and-shoots, whereas 2-pointers are mostly contested shots that are scored in a wide variety of ways.

Accordingly, it's easier for Jordan/Pippen to improve at open catch-and-shoots than Curry can improve at a wide variety of contested 2-pointers.

Btw, if MJ and Scottie played on TODAY'S Bulls, management would surround MJ and Scottie with 3-point shooters just like every other team surrounds their stars - so 3-point shooting wouldn't be an issue.





You think the Bulls would be hitting threes at a silly % if they upped their volume and with a longer line? Their % would go down.


If MJ and Scottie played on TODAY'S Bulls, management would surround MJ and Scottie with 3-point shooters just like every other team surrounds their stars - so 3-point shooting wouldn't be an issue.

Of course, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing.. Just look at Lebron and Westbrook - Jordan has same or better athleticism, but they can't shoot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41), whereas he had goat midrange efficiency, much better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26)..

Essentially, MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism with better jumpshooting than Curry inside 20 feet.

[aj1987]

You mean the series where Jordan averaged 31 ppg on 46% to get his Bulls an insurmountable 3-0 lead (while Pippen gave him zero help with 15 ppg on 34%), and then won the series Most Valuable Player award?
I think he means the series in which Payton made MJ his bitch and held him to 27 PPG on 41%.

[3ball]

Bulls would get massacred


If OKC almost beat GSW, then what would having the GOAT and a vastly superior brand of basketball be worth?

Obviously, the Warriors would get massacred - that's what the GOAT and a vastly superior brand of basketball would be worth.. :confusedshrug:

[Mr. Jabbar]

If OKC almost beat GSW, then what would having the GOAT and a vastly superior brand of basketball be worth?

Obviously, the Warriors would get massacred - that's what the GOAT and a vastly superior brand of basketball would be worth.. :confusedshrug:

This okc team was a very bad matchup for the record breaking gsw. ordan had series that went the long way too

[Blue&Orange]

No, not really.
GSW would destroy Bulls with perimeter scoring and they have much more heart too.
Iguodala would give MJ fits.
The entire paragraph was idiotic, but the bolded part :lol :roll: :oldlol:


90s teams are not that much physical than today's teams.
And the offenses and defenses are much too advanced for Bulls to keep up.
They're great for what they was, but this is just a new breed of basketball teams.

Let's say it's true for argument sake, So Bulls players are retarded? Weird because they were able to learn the triangle unlike players today.



I've been coaching for quite some time, studying these teams for improvement, and the difference is staggering.
oh i'm sorry you're a scholar, i've mistaken you for a retard.

You know who is also a coach? Steve Kerr. Even him said how easy and dumbed down the game was today, despite coaching Curry.


But it's no like we needed Kerr to tell us it's glaring obvious.


Dumb people :facepalm

[3ball]

I think he means the series in which Payton made MJ his bitch and held him to 27 PPG on 42%.


Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), resulted in his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.

However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron and Kobe averaged 15 ppg, 17 ppg, and 22 ppg on 35% during their worst series..

[aj1987]

Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), resulted in his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.

However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron and Kobe averaged 15 ppg, 17 ppg, and 22 ppg on 35% during their worst series.
Neither Kobe nor LeBron averaged 17 PPG on 35%.

Payton did make MJ his bitch in '96 and the current Warriors would take a massive steaming shit on the '96 Bulls.

[3ball]

ordan


You realize that Jordan was a far better jumpshooter than Curry from midrange and inside 20 feet right?

The stats show that MJ shot much better than Curry inside 20 feet, on literally 6 times the volume:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26

[3ball]

Neither Kobe nor LeBron averaged 17 PPG on 35%.


Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 35% in 2000 Finals.

Lebron averaged 17 ppg in 2011 Finals and 22 ppg on 35% in 2007 Finals.





Payton did make MJ his bitch in '96


Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), resulted in his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.

However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron and Kobe averaged 15 ppg, 17 ppg, and 22 ppg on 35% during their worst series.





and the current Warriors would take a massive steaming shit on the '96 Bulls.


OKC almost beat GSW, so obviously the GOAT and a vastly superior brand of basketball would destroy the Warriors

[aj1987]

Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 35% in 2000 Finals.

Lebron averaged 17 ppg in 2011 Finals and 22 ppg on 35% in 2007 Finals.
Neither LeBron nor Kobe averaged 17 PPG on 35%.


Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), resulted in his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.
Payton made him his bitch and shut him down.


However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron and Kobe averaged 15 ppg, 17 ppg, and 22 ppg on 35% during their worst series.
Neither LeBron nor Kobe averaged 17 PPG on 35%.


OKC almost beat GSW, so obviously the GOAT and a vastly superior brand of basketball would destroy the Warriors
KD and WB >>>>>> Ordan. Curry would shit on M_ worse than GP did in '96. Warriors in 2 after the Bulls forfeit.

[3ball]

Ordan.



NBA.com midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)



JORDAN 1997:. 49.3%, 1202 fga

CURRY.. 2015:. 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY.. 2016:. 42.5%, 200 fga



.....................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga



Interestingly, Curry's goat 3-point shooting and Jordan's goat midrange shooting isn't needed to be a top scorer in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) and 3-point, yet they're still top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had the goat midrange efficiency shown above, which would put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gave him a similarly massive advantage over the aforementioned non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.

[aj1987]

27 PPG on 41%

Curry >>>> Ordan
Agreed. :applause: :applause:

[3ball]

Agreed. :applause: :applause:
Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), resulted in his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.

However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron averaged 17 ppg (2011 Finals) and 22 ppg on 36% (2007 Finals), while Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 35% (2000 Finals) and 22 ppg on 35% (2004 Finals).

[aj1987]

Ordan's poor stats: 27 ppg on 41%.

Curry >>>>>> Ordan
Agreed! You're on a roll, 0ball. :applause: :applause:

[LakersForlife]

michael ORjan was legend though and will always be remembered.. its curry league now

[STATUTORY]

RIP Michael, you will be missed

[Da_Realist]

In no universe would the 96 Bulls be a better team shooting 30 threes a game! It's stupid. They had the talent and skill level to get more edficient shots, a dependable offense with an unstoppable, clutch scorer that would put guys in foul trouble and a defense that could hold GSW to 100 points.

The extra spacing would just allow Chicago to score more easily.

[Da_Realist]

What gave GSW trouble was the perimeter defensive combo of Westbrook/Durant/Roberson and getting out rebounded.

The fact that the Thunder could switch all 3 of those guys on either Klay or Curry without losing any defensive pressure was huge. And guess what? The Bulls have the exact same advantage. Scottie/MJ/Harper would do the same and are better defenders. The Bulls win 8/10. If you take this advantage away from the Bulls then the Warriors would have a real chance of beating them 6/10.

Bulls have the same advantages over GSW as OKC except Chicago would have punished them inside instead of settling for long jumpers. They were smarter, had a dependable offense, a better defense, an unstoppable offensive player that would shine in clutch moments and they had championship experience.

What are some of you guys looking at? GSW struggled with a shaky, dumb team with no real offense outside of pick-n-roll, wild forays to the basket and long jumpshots. Wow.

[3ball]

In no universe would the 96 Bulls be a better team shooting 30 threes a game! It's stupid. They had the talent and skill level to get more edficient shots, a dependable offense with an unstoppable, clutch scorer that would put guys in foul trouble and a defense that could hold GSW to 100 points.


I agree - the Bulls shot 15 per game in 1996, so they'd probably take 20 per game like today's Spurs, not 30 per game like the Warriors





The extra spacing would just allow Chicago to score more easily.


agreed

[Da_Realist]

Kids on here going on and on about 3 point shooting because that's all today's player is good at. Size and athleticism makes a difference, as OKC just proved. Combine that with skill, intelligence, experience and a much greater will to win. GSW would have no chance.

[Da_Realist]

The triangle offense would carve GSW defense up. OKC got easy shots with an elementary pick-n-roll offense most of the series. All the doubling and overplaying GS would need to do would get eaten up by the skill and intelligence Chicago would put on the floor.

[Da_Realist]

Only in today's league and especially against GSW does Steven Adams look like Shaq.

[aj1987]

Only in today's league and especially against GSW does Steven Adams look like Shaq.
Yeah, 38 year old Shaq. :oldlol:

[andgar923]

As other mentioned, the Bulls were a focused and disciplined TEAM.

I mean, it's like comparing James Brown and the JBs (MJ and the Bulls) to One Direction (Thunder).

Half the shit that cost the Thunder the series wouldn't have happened to the Bulls. The Thunder basically GAVE the series away.

[LakersForlife]

https://danceistherapy.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tumblrharlemshakebowwow1.gif


Replace Westbrook or Durant with Jordan, and OKC destroys the Warriors..

This proves Jordan was goat, and that Curry would be MJ's bitch
jordan is sixty now.. lmao.. some old dude living in the past bye 96 bulls

[kurple]

No, not really.
GSW would destroy Bulls with perimeter scoring and they have much more heart too.
Iguodala would give MJ fits.
:roll:

[Optimus Prime]

Ignorant children overrate the new and underestimate history and legacy. Nothing new to see here.

:kobe:

[Hey Yo]

Because of Jordan's poor stats after the series was already over (during garbage time), the 1996 Finals were his worst stats of any playoff series: 27 ppg on 42%.

However, that's FAR better than any other player's worst playoff series - guys like Lebron and Kobe averaged 15 ppg, 17 ppg, and 22 ppg on 35% during their worst series.
LOL @ 3ball

MJ's 41.5% = 42% in his book

LeBron's 39.8% = 39%.

Always fudging the numbers to make MJ look better and James worse.

[3ball]

Lebron > Jordan regardless of how this series go


Jordan scores 6 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg) - these things are more important and control the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds) and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

There's never been a #1 option that scored 6 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.





did more with less than MJ ever did.


In 2009, Lebron's supporting cast added enough help on top of his 28/8/7 to win 66 games... Compare that to the 1989 Bulls cast, who only added enough help on top of Jordan's 33/8/8 to win 47 games.

The only possible reasons for the Cavs winning 19 more games despite Lebron's inferior production is that Lebron's supporting cast was better and/or they played inferior competition.. Obviously, the 19 additional wins isn't ONLY due to inferior competition - it's due to better supporting cast as well.

Btw, the Bulls were only a 6-seed in 1989 - their upsets of higher seeds in the 1st and 2nd Round shows the team was playing to maximum capacity and used a superior brand of basketball to overcome their favored opponents.. Otoh, Lebron's team was a heavily-favored 1-seed that was upset by a lower seed, showing the team was not playing to maximum capacity or a superior brand of basketball.



did more with less than MJ ever did.


Lebron has many series and even entire playoff runs where he wasn't the team's leading scorer, whereas Jordan led his team in scoring for every series of his career by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) - no other all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their career, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan did.

Jordan also led his team in passing - Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49), so he assisted on the highest proportion of Bulls' field goals..

Ultimately, Lebron is nowhere near Jordan's combination of goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position.





did more with less than MJ ever did.


Bigger Overachievement: Jordan's 1989 Playoff Run vs. Lebron's 2007:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12416248&postcount=16

[BedroomBully]

Why are so many MJ fans feeling so insecure about Curry at the moment?

[Lakers Legend#32]

The Curse of the Sonics

[CuterThanRubio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O76TXDoMWY

Skip ahead to 1:00

Barkley claims the Bulls don't handle physical play well in response to the question of whether or not he thinks Phil Jackson is being a baby for complaining about the refs turning a blind eye to rough play.

I thought the 90s were tough?

The Bulls were BABIED and couldn't win without preferential treatment, please think twice before attacking GSW and LBJ!

[tontoz]

The Bulls centers wouldn't hurt GS. They all basically sucked. Rodman/Grant had no post game to punish GS inside for going small.

They couldnt guard both Curry and Klay. Jordan can't cover both guys. Iggy would be as good a defender as Jordan ever faced.

I would still bet on the Bulls but i wouldn't feel terribly confident.

[diamenz]

i'm a big bulls fan but jordan's bulls played twenty years ago. let it go.