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3ball
05-31-2016, 03:25 AM
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If Lebron beats the Warriors, that would prove that #1 options don't need to be good at 3-pointers to win a ring in today's era.

This would be great for today's wing player in general, since many of them can't shoot either - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor 3-point AND midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows easier access to the rim.

Jordan's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he was a goat midrange shooter, even better than Curry (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26).. Essentially, Jordan had athleticism like Lebron or Westbrook - but they can't shoot, whereas he shot better than Curry inside 20 feet.

KingPush
05-31-2016, 03:25 AM
How about you cheer for no one

plowking
05-31-2016, 03:27 AM
Or you know what else?

Lebron and Curry are both better than Jordan.

GSW>Bulls.


And no one cares about Jordan or the Bulls.

elementally morale
05-31-2016, 03:27 AM
Mhmm. Has it ever occured to you that the way the game evolves has nothing to do with who you happen to cheer for?

CuterThanRubio
05-31-2016, 03:30 AM
Newsflash: His team broke the record for threes made in a single game, he's orchestrating the three point assault even if he isn't contributing to it with his own shots!

I can bet he will be hitting threes in the finals too, get ready to be very sad~!

:rockon:

bigkingsfan
05-31-2016, 03:30 AM
You should cheer for Clippers because they have Jordan.

ballinhun8
05-31-2016, 03:34 AM
Or you know what else?

Lebron and Curry are both better than Jordan.

GSW>Bulls.


And no one cares about Jordan or the Bulls.



Tell that to every black kid waiting outside Foot Locker on a Saturday morning.

theaussieguy
05-31-2016, 03:47 AM
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If Lebron beats the Warriors, that would prove that #1 options don't need to be good at 3-pointers to win a ring in today's era.

This would be great for today's wing player in general, since many of them can't shoot either - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor 3-point AND midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows easier access to the rim.

Jordan's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he was a goat midrange shooter, even better than Curry (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12373019&postcount=26).. Essentially, Jordan had athleticism like Lebron or Westbrook - but they can't shoot, whereas he shot better than Curry inside 20 feet.

Dont you do him like that, a legit 44 inch vert (if not higher) in his prime (40 inch vert well into his thirties) compared to a man with a POVERTY 36.5 inch vert in his 'athletic' prime who also happens to be 3 inches shorter with the iq of a homeless man on bumfights.

3ball
05-31-2016, 04:04 AM
Dont you do him like that, a legit 44 inch vert (if not higher) in his prime (40 inch vert well into his thirties) compared to a man with a POVERTY 36.5 inch vert in his 'athletic' prime who also happens to be 3 inches shorter with the iq of a homeless man on bumfights.



You're right - Westbrook's vertical is POVERTY:


https://media.giphy.com/media/m7CUuwpcpJR9m/giphy.gif



Nothing compared to Jordan:


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FKAri
05-31-2016, 04:04 AM
Tell that to every black kid waiting outside Foot Locker on a Saturday morning.
So that's Jordan's legacy to today's kids? A modern day Chuck Taylor?

NBAGOAT
05-31-2016, 05:02 AM
Mhmm. Has it ever occured to you that the way the game evolves has nothing to do with who you happen to cheer for?

:applause:

Smoke117
05-31-2016, 05:15 AM
Lebron > Jordan regardless of how this series go...did more with less than MJ ever did.

3ball
05-31-2016, 05:42 AM
not at all
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Prime_Shaq
05-31-2016, 05:47 AM
To be honest, nobody cares who you cheer for. So.... keep it to yourself thanks

artificial
05-31-2016, 05:53 AM
Why the f*ck would you want anyone's opinion on who should you root for? You sound like an insecure teenager asking for public reassurance.

That, or an extremely lame bait to drag people into stupid arguments.


Mhmm. Has it ever occured to you that the way the game evolves has nothing to do with who you happen to cheer for?
nailed it :oldlol:

3ball
05-31-2016, 05:56 AM
Lebron > Jordan regardless of how this series go


Jordan scores 6 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg) - these things are more important and control the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds) and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

There's never been a #1 option that scored 6 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.





did more with less than MJ ever did.


In 2009, Lebron's supporting cast added enough help on top of his 28/8/7 to win 66 games... Compare that to the 1989 Bulls cast, who only added enough help on top of Jordan's 33/8/8 to win 47 games.

The only possible reasons for the Cavs winning 19 more games despite Lebron's inferior production is that Lebron's supporting cast was better and/or they played inferior competition.. Obviously, the 19 additional wins isn't ONLY due to inferior competition - it's due to better supporting cast as well.

Btw, the Bulls were only a 6-seed in 1989 - their upsets of higher seeds in the 1st and 2nd Round shows the team was playing to maximum capacity and used a superior brand of basketball to overcome their favored opponents.. Otoh, Lebron's team was a heavily-favored 1-seed that was upset by a lower seed, showing the team was not playing to maximum capacity or a superior brand of basketball.



did more with less than MJ ever did.


Lebron has many series and entire playoff runs where he isn't his team's leading scorer, whereas Jordan led his team in scoring for every series of his career by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) - no other all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their career, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan did.

Jordan also led his team in passing - Jordan led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49), so he assisted on the highest proportion of Bulls' field goals..

Ultimately, Lebron is nowhere near Jordan's combination of goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position.





did more with less than MJ ever did.


Bigger Overachievement: Jordan's 1989 Playoff Run vs. Lebron's 2007:


Jordan's Bulls were 47-25 and the 6 seed.
Lebron's Cavs were 50-32 and the 2 seed.


1st Round Jordan: CLE...(#3 seed, 57-25, #2 ranked defense... 40.0.. 6.0.. 8.1.. 51.8% FG)
1st Round Lebron: WSH (#7 seed, 41-41, #28 ranked defense.. 27.0.. 8.5.. 7.5.. 42.5% FG)

2nd Round Jordan: NYK (#2 seed, 52-30, #10 ranked defense... 35.5.. 9.5.. 8.3.. 55.0% FG)
2nd Round Lebron: NJN (#6 seed, 41-41, #15 ranked defense... 24.7.. 7.3.. 8.5.. 42.3% FG)

Conf. Finals Jordan: DET (#1 seed, 62-30, #3 ranked defense... 30.0.. 5.5.. 6.5.. 46.0% FG)
Conf. Finals Lebron: DET (#1 seed, 53-29, #7 ranked defense... 25.7.. 9.1.. 8.5.. 44.9% FG)

90sgoat
05-31-2016, 10:07 AM
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