The New Hot Spots Where Americans Are Moving Right Now

[UK2K]

2009 - 2014

Cities gaining most population
1) Tampa, FL
2) Jacksonville, FL
3) Charlotte, NC
4) San Antonio, TX
5) Austin, TX
6) Las Vegas, NV
7) Orlando, FL
8) Nashville, TN
9) Raleigh, NC
10) Portland, OR

Raleigh rocking out :applause:

For example, we first noticed dark horse Raleigh, NC, back in March when it popped up on our monthly hottest markets report, and then kept its spot in April. It turns out that Raleigh has one of the best job markets in both hiring opportunities and job satisfaction rate, according to Glassdoor.com.

Cities losing most population
1) New York, NY
2) Chicago, IL
3) Detroit, MI
4) San Jose, CA
5) Los Angeles, CA
6) Milwaukee, WI
7) St. Louis, MO
8) Cleveland, OH
9) San Francisco, CA
10) Philadelphia, PA

People running from high taxes.
[QUOTE]Leaving New York, rather than moving to it, has established itself as a solid trend

[imdaman99]

NYC is crowded enough as it is. Plus it's getting harder and harder to afford anything close to the city. 1 bedroom apartments in Queens (about 25-30 mins from Manhattan via train) are like 1800 a month. I don't remember how much of a harsh winter we had but it already feels like summer here.

It looks like the cities losing the most population are the biggest cities :lol taxes do suck :oldlol:

[Meticode]

Why is any Florida city even listed? People have been moving to Florida for years. Even those who don't even live in the country.

[hateraid]

I was looking at property in Orlando, Vegas, and Scottsdale last year. Still considering.

[Nanners]

Portland has high taxes and high cost of living, but people move here cause its a really nice place to live.

Also I doubt San Fran and San Jose are really losing population based on whats been happening with property values down there.

[Akrazotile]

Portland has high taxes and high cost of living, but people move here cause its a really nice place to live.

Also I doubt San Fran and San Jose are really losing population based on whats been happening with property values down there.


Maybe lower income families with multiple kids are being priced out by newcomers with no kids

[Bosnian Sajo]

Why is any Florida city even listed? People have been moving to Florida for years. Even those who don't even live in the country.


Because OP listed cities gaining the most population from 09-2014 and it just so happens that the top two cities are in Florida, pretty straight forward. Why does that bother you? Are you upset that Cleveland is losing it's people?






TAMPA STAND UP :rockon: :banana: :pimp:

[KyrieTheFuture]

This list definitely isn't right if Denver isn't on it

Edit: actually if this study ended in 2014 that makes sense

[macmac]

Im looking currently looking at town homes in Tampa. I have a friend there who's ready to split with me and manage the properties. Real estate is very cheap and rentals are high, seems like a dream market to me. With all this influx of lower income families that live month to month and don't have the credit to buy their home, it can only get better. Especially when these town homes were selling for ~25% higher before the real estate crash.

[UK2K]

Portland has high taxes and high cost of living, but people move here cause its a really nice place to live.

Also I doubt San Fran and San Jose are really losing population based on whats been happening with property values down there.

AK said it...


On the West Coast, where a San Francisco shack is going for $1.38 million, soaring home prices are pushing locals out and scaring away potential new ones.

Where are they going? As you can see in the map above, New Yorkers are mostly moving to Florida. San Franciscans opt for cheaper cities away from the coast (but not outside California), and Angelenos head to Las Vegas. And everyone is moving to Texas! Must be the breakfast tacos.

People will continue to pay absurd prices to live in San Fran, and then complain that the cost of living in the cities is too high. Go figure.

[~primetime~]

Im looking currently looking at town homes in Tampa. I have a friend there who's ready to split with me and manage the properties. Real estate is very cheap and rentals are high, seems like a dream market to me. With all this influx of lower income families that live month to month and don't have the credit to buy their home, it can only get better. Especially when these town homes were selling for ~25% higher before the real estate crash.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/21/investing/puerto-rico-foreclosure-crisis/

beach front stuff in the caribbean for pennies

I'd buy something if it didn't require upkeep and actual work lol

[Long Duck Dong]

Republican states. Less regulations, lower taxes, less PC bullshyt = more job opportunity and more people. Problem is too many idiots take their dumb values with them and turn their new homes into the same craphole they left behind. Democrats :facepalm

[macmac]

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/21/investing/puerto-rico-foreclosure-crisis/

beach front stuff in the caribbean for pennies

I'd buy something if it didn't require upkeep and actual work lol

That's interesting for a vacation home and a short term rental property, I'll look into it for sure, thanks.

But Tampa, you're getting 20% ROI with year long tenants on some of these town homes, seems like a fkin no brainer

[Akrazotile]

Republican states. Less regulations, lower taxes, less PC bullshyt = more job opportunity and more people. Problem is too many idiots take their dumb values with them and turn their new homes into the same craphole they left behind. Democrats :facepalm


The irony that these people leave for better economic opportunities for themselves, but then continue to complain about capitalism, business, small government etc is just too priceless.

[macmac]

The irony that these people leave for better economic opportunities for themselves, but then continue to complain about capitalism, business, small government etc is just too priceless.

You're a broke biitch , grown men talking about real estate here, not bumper stickers and YouTube careers.

There's no such things as democrats and republicans, only idiots and non-idiots, you both belong to the former category.

[FillJackson]

New York City is still growing in population

[QUOTE]Summary

[B]The U.S. Census Bureau has estimated New York City

[Akrazotile]

You're a broke biitch , grown men talking about real estate here, not bumper stickers and YouTube careers.

There's no such things as democrats and republicans, only idiots and non-idiots, you both belong to the former category.


:oldlol:

You dont know anything about real estate. You dont know anything about anything. You made some money saving up the tips you got from sucking the ***** of high rollers under the card table til they finally let you play a few hands. Shit doesnt impress anyone. Sorry if youre butt hurt because I must have pointed this out in the past or done something to rustle your jimmies, such that youre throwin this unsolicited tantrum when I didnt address a single word to you.

Great job masking your insecurities tho kid. Youve got us totally fooled :oldlol:

[Nanners]

AK said it...



People will continue to pay absurd prices to live in San Fran, and then complain that the cost of living in the cities is too high. Go figure.

except san francisco is growing, not shrinking

http://sfist.com/2014/07/17/san_franciscos_population_boom_and.php

a lot of the cities on that list of shrinking cities are actually growing

[ALBballer]

Generally places with Low COL and good weather are seeing an influx and places with High COL, higher taxes and colder weather (except for Cali on the weather part) are seeing an exodus.

I have thought about Florida as well but the humidity is too much to handle in the Summertime and wages are low.

[macmac]

:oldlol:

You dont know anything about real estate. You dont know anything about anything. You made some money saving up the tips you got from sucking the ***** of high rollers under the card table til they finally let you play a few hands yourself. Shit doesnt impress anyone. Sorry if youre butt hurt because I must have pointed this out in the past or done something to rustle your jimmies, such that youre throwin this unsolicited tantrum when I didnt address a single word to you.

Great job masking your insecurities tho kid. Youve got us totally fooled! :oldlol:

Lol for real tho, I have some great ideas for bumper stickers if you're still planning on building your economic empire. We all know you're a business mogul that just hasn't had the opportunity to spread his wings.

But I know you're not interested in Florida real estate because they don't usually build homes with basements there, so hopefully your parents don't retire to the sunshine State anytime soon

[Akrazotile]

Lol for real tho, I have some great ideas for bumper stickers if you're still planning on building your economic empire. We all know you're a business mogul that just hasn't had the opportunity to spread his wings.

But I know you're not interested in Florida real estate because they don't usually build homes with basements there, so hopefully your parents don't retire to the sunshine State anytime soon


The cringe is real :lol .

Tbh this has to be one of the more surprising and awkward melts Ive seen in a while. Pretty random. But Im not gonna go back and forth about it. Go see a shrink.

[FillJackson]

except san francisco is growing, not shrinking

http://sfist.com/2014/07/17/san_franciscos_population_boom_and.php

a lot of the cities on that list of shrinking cities are actually growing
Yeah, never trust a real estate site on these sorts of articles.

If you look at the actual census data, you see they didn't take size of the city into account. The list is completely different if you look at percentages. The places with the biggest jump percentage-wise are small retirement communities. The places with the biggest exodus are small towns, one in GA and one in NM had 5% of town leave. If 5% of New York left that would be 425,000 people.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-metro-area-domestic-migration-map-2016-5

[FillJackson]

Generally places with Low COL and good weather are seeing an influx and places with High COL, higher taxes and colder weather (except for Cali on the weather part) are seeing an exodus.

I have thought about Florida as well but the humidity is too much to handle in the Summertime and wages are low.That's why retirees move there.

[ALBballer]

That's why retirees move there.

Yep and no state income tax is a benefit for retirees but the amount of tolls is ridiculous.

[FillJackson]

If you just look at whether a city is growing or not, looking at number of people added, not percentages, it's no suprise, it's big cities.

New York city, New York 375,443
Houston city, Texas 186,852
Los Angeles city, California 179,221
San Antonio city, Texas 142,294
Austin city, Texas 120,374
Phoenix city, Arizona 115,401
Dallas city, Texas 102,300
San Diego city, California 93,307
Charlotte city, North Carolina 91,327
Fort Worth city, Texas 90,492
Denver city, Colorado 82,685
Seattle city, Washington 75,792
San Jose city, California 74,353
Washington city, District of Columbia 70,461
Columbus city, Ohio 61,314
San Francisco city, California 59,621

Chicago is notably absent, but otherwise, it looks like a list of big cities.

[BasedTom]

That's why retirees move there.
Florida has 20 million people, just surpassed NY for number 3 in the country behind ****huge California and Texas.

It isn't retirees; they don't reproduce and very often live in gated community type things with golf courses and shit. Not proper cities or family homes. And what does an old fart even have to worry much about factors like cost of living, commute time, long term investment, etc if they're retired and living off a pension?

the retirees thing as compared to the whole is massively overstated.

[FillJackson]

Florida has 20 million people, just surpassed NY for number 3 in the country behind ****huge California and Texas.

It isn't retirees; they don't reproduce and very often live in gated community type things with golf courses and shit. Not proper cities or family homes. And what does an old fart even have to worry much about factors like cost of living, commute time, long term investment, etc if they're retired and living off a pension?

the retirees thing as compared to the whole is massively overstated.
This is ridiculous.

Who said anything about commute time and long term investment? Do you really think retirees don't worry about cost of living? Obviously a young whippersnapper who has much to learn.

[FillJackson]

3 of the 4 oldest counties in America are in Florida

By many measures, Florida – which has long attracted snowbirds and retirees – is one of the nation’s grayest states. Overall, 19.1% of the Sunshine State’s population is 65 and older, the highest percentage in the nation. Sumter County, west of Orlando, is the only U.S. county where more than half (52.9%) of residents are 65 and older. Sumter County also has the highest median age in America: At 65.9, it beats the county or county equivalent with the lowest median age (Lexington city, Va.) by nearly 44 years.

Ranking second in percentage of people who are 65 and older is Charlotte County, Fla., with 37.7%, followed by La Paz County in Arizona (36.1%) and Citrus County in Florida (35.2%). In Florida, 53 of 67 counties have an above-average share of people 65 and older when compared with the percentage of Americans in that demographic (14.5%, or 46.2 million).

[UK2K]

except san francisco is growing, not shrinking

http://sfist.com/2014/07/17/san_franciscos_population_boom_and.php

a lot of the cities on that list of shrinking cities are actually growing
Sure, they are.

Illegals **** like stoned rabbits.

[BasedTom]

This is ridiculous.

Who said anything about commute time and long term investment? Do you really think retirees don't worry about cost of living? Obviously a young whippersnapper who has much to learn.
Cost of living in the more immediate sense of a working class family with kids, you know the proverbial backbone of America. Not about how much they'll lose at bingo or if they'll find a motorised scooter at the grocery store or if a worthless lazy fattie will be using it.

Are you expecting a mass population decline in certain states in 5-10 years as these elderly populations die off? As in millions of people and economies in ruins as a result of it?

Of course not. What you're trying to peddle as fact is absurd. But it's not in any way surprising the jew yorker would prefer to believe every single occurrence in this world somehow traces back and owes itself to NY- so of course every free agent would want to play with melo on the knicks! :oldlol:

[BigNBAfan]

Portland has high taxes and high cost of living, but people move here cause its a really nice place to live.

Also I doubt San Fran and San Jose are really losing population based on whats been happening with property values down there.

No it doesn't.... Portland is quite affordable, just go out 13-15miles out of the city to say beaverton or forest grove... or little out east

I'm surprised to see nashville on that list, good i suppose. I'm trying to find a nice place by the gulch. It feels odd to be a few years older than the students i'll be teaching and also hanging around the same area. Something i'll have to adapt to i suppose.

[BasedTom]

3 of the 4 oldest counties in America are in Florida

By many measures, Florida – which has long attracted snowbirds and retirees – is one of the nation’s grayest states. Overall, 19.1% of the Sunshine State’s population is 65 and older, the highest percentage in the nation. Sumter County, west of Orlando, is the only U.S. county where more than half (52.9%) of residents are 65 and older. Sumter County also has the highest median age in America: At 65.9, it beats the county or county equivalent with the lowest median age (Lexington city, Va.) by nearly 44 years.

Ranking second in percentage of people who are 65 and older is Charlotte County, Fla., with 37.7%, followed by La Paz County in Arizona (36.1%) and Citrus County in Florida (35.2%). In Florida, 53 of 67 counties have an above-average share of people 65 and older when compared with the percentage of Americans in that demographic (14.5%, or 46.2 million).
Right, look up Sumter County. It's in the middle of the state, and not really near any of the major cities or population centres. Yes it's technically "west of Orlando" about the same way Kobe was technically a frontcourt player for the ASG and Sasha Grey is technically an author.

Has it came up in any of the discussions in this thread? Is it growing the same way Tampa and other places are? Are people here (20s-30s demographic mostly) considering property or relocating there?

You're conflating one trend of the past with a newer, 100% different one.

[FillJackson]

Cost of living in the more immediate sense of a working class family with kids, you know the proverbial backbone of America. Not about how much they'll lose at bingo or if they'll find a motorised scooter at the grocery store or if a worthless lazy fattie will be using it.

Are you expecting a mass population decline in certain states in 5-10 years as these elderly populations die off? As in millions of people and economies in ruins as a result of it?

Of course not. What you're trying to peddle as fact is absurd. But it's not in any way surprising the jew yorker would prefer to believe every single occurrence in this world somehow traces back and owes itself to NY- so of course every free agent would want to play with melo on the knicks! :oldlol:

So how far is the J key from the N key? :rolleyes:

[BasedTom]

So how far is the J key from the N key? :rolleyes:
Who cares? Just fun little names like Detroilet, Chicongo, Choklahoma City. Are you really so triggered by it? Hit the report button and cuddle your ken doll if it bothers you

[Nanners]

No it doesn't.... Portland is quite affordable, just go out 13-15miles out of the city to say beaverton or forest grove... or little out east

I'm surprised to see nashville on that list, good i suppose. I'm trying to find a nice place by the gulch. It feels odd to be a few years older than the students i'll be teaching and also hanging around the same area. Something i'll have to adapt to i suppose.

Thats like saying San Francisco is affordable because you can just go 15 miles out of the city to Richmond or East Oakland.

Sure Portland has some suburbs that are more affordable than the city center, thats true for almost every city.

According to the OP article Portland has a median home sale price of $416k, that aint cheap.

[UK2K]

No it doesn't.... Portland is quite affordable, just go out 13-15miles out of the city to say beaverton or forest grove... or little out east

I'm surprised to see nashville on that list, good i suppose. I'm trying to find a nice place by the gulch. It feels odd to be a few years older than the students i'll be teaching and also hanging around the same area. Something i'll have to adapt to i suppose.
I know a ton of people who want to move to Nashville. Nashville and North Carolina are the two places I constantly hear about.

Both have booming economies, cheap cost of living, and beautiful scenery.

[KiiiiNG]

The cringe is real :lol .

Tbh this has to be one of the more surprising and awkward melts Ive seen in a while. Pretty random. But Im not gonna go back and forth about it. Go see a shrink.
:roll:

Murder

[Bosnian Sajo]

Im looking currently looking at town homes in Tampa. I have a friend there who's ready to split with me and manage the properties. Real estate is very cheap and rentals are high, seems like a dream market to me. With all this influx of lower income families that live month to month and don't have the credit to buy their home, it can only get better. Especially when these town homes were selling for ~25% higher before the real estate crash.


Ayyy, I'll close the sale bruh, good ass salesman who does real estate on the side. I'm in the area, hmu.

[mlh1981]

Moved to St. Pete FL 5 years ago and it hasn't always been easy at times, but for the most part, I like it. The Summers are pretty tough, but at the end of the day, you just deal with it.

[BigBoss]

NYC is crowded enough as it is. Plus it's getting harder and harder to afford anything close to the city. 1 bedroom apartments in Queens (about 25-30 mins from Manhattan via train) are like 1800 a month. I don't remember how much of a harsh winter we had but it already feels like summer here.

It looks like the cities losing the most population are the biggest cities :lol taxes do suck :oldlol:

In those high rises? That's expensive