Kobe has beaten a total of 2 60 win teams in the playoffs

[Im Still Ballin]

Seattle in 1997
Sacramento in 2002

[Dray n Klay]

How many as his teams best player? 0?

[Im Still Ballin]

FYI LeBron has beaten 2 60 win teams in the playoffs

2011 Chicago
2015 Hawks

[Bankaii]

So in other words, Shaq beat one in 1997 and Shaq+refs beat one in 2002.

[Mr. Jabbar]

FYI LeBron has beaten 2 60 win teams in the playoffs

2011 Chicago
2015 Hawks

2 is his lucky number

[Keno]

lebron about to be the only one to defeat 70+ win team in playoffs. :rockon:

[eliteballer]

That's because the West has been loaded with tons of strong teams beating each other up.

Unless you think the Hawks of last year are a better team than say, Duncan's Spurs in any given year:roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

2 is his lucky number
Kobe's lucky number too! 2/7 FMVPs!

[inclinerator]

lebron about to be the only one to defeat 70+ win team in playoffs. :rockon:
:eek:

[Dray n Klay]

Kobe's lucky number too! 2/7 FMVPs!

Got 'em :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

FYI LeBron has beaten 2 60 win teams in the playoffs

2011 Chicago
2015 Hawks

Worst 60 win teams of all time, by far.

[tpols]

Worst 60 win teams of all time, by far.


who do you think was better ?

derrick rose and his merry band of hustle scrubs or the Kyle Korverless, Paul Millsap led hawks .. ?

[Dray n Klay]

who do you think was better ?

derrick rose and his merry band of hustle scrubs or the Kyle Korverless, Paul Millsap led hawks .. ?

They are both better than any team Kobe faced from 08-10


The Deron Williams Jazz, the one-man Dwight Howard Magic, and the 49 win Celtics team in 2010 that Kobetards hype as 'elite' :oldlol:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Seattle in 1997
Sacramento in 2002

And in 1997 he was a mere role player, so I wont say he beat the 60 wins Seattle team. Only Sacramento counts in this case, so one win over 60 wins team, wow...
:eek:

[Im Still Ballin]

Wait what happened to duh hur 50 win teams beaten

LOLzies!!!

[West-Side]

Kobe beat more 50 win teams from 08' to 10' than LeBRon has in his entire playoff career. 15' Hawks and 11' Bulls don't even get HCA from 08' to 10'.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Kobe beat more 50 win teams from 08' to 10' than LeBRon has in his entire playoff career. 15' Hawks and 11' Bulls don't even get HCA from 08' to 10'.

But honestly, 50-54 wins team aint true contenders, at least most of them(ie. 2008 Nuggets, 2009 Rockets, 2010 Thunder). I think using 55 wins team as the standard may be a better idea.

[Im Still Ballin]

Who cares about 50 win teams when you have 60 win teams LOL

[toprange]

Kobe's lucky number too! 2/7 FMVPs!
Please don't compare the two. Kobe's 2 FMVPs are top tier FMVPs because kobe had no other superstars on his team. :bowdown: whereas lebron's are the lowest of the low fmvps because he was on a colluded SUPERTEAM :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Why are you still creating threads about Kobe a day after an amazing game 7 and two days before the finals

:wtf: :wtf:

[nathanjizzle]

FYI LeBron has beaten 2 60 win teams in the playoffs

2011 Chicago
2015 Hawks

:roll: they were soo good.

[plowking]

who do you think was better ?

derrick rose and his merry band of hustle scrubs or the Kyle Korverless, Paul Millsap led hawks .. ?

The Bulls were a great team. They just ran into an even better Heat team. They go on and win the finals in 2011 if it wasn't for the Heat.

[tpols]

The Bulls were a great team. They just ran into an even better Heat team. They go on and win the finals in 2011 if it wasn't for the Heat.


:oldlol:

no they don't.

[plowking]

:oldlol:

no they don't.

In my opinion they do.

Neither of us can prove it, though I can point to the Bulls consistently being better throughout the season, and the fact they beat them both times that year, home and away.

Your evidence on the other hand, is a bunch of emojis.

[BigBoss]

How many Western Conference teams would have 60 win records if they played in the East this last decade?

[tpols]

In my opinion they do.

Neither of us can prove it, though I can point to the Bulls consistently being better throughout the regular season, and the fact they beat them both times that year, home and away.

Your evidence on the other hand, is a bunch of emojis.


that's cute. how about the playoffs?

[plowking]

that's cute. how about the playoffs?

If LeBron laid an egg the way he did in the finals, then the Heat wouldn't have made it.

[imdaman99]

They are both better than any team Kobe faced from 08-10


The Deron Williams Jazz, the one-man Dwight Howard Magic, and the 49 win Celtics team in 2010 that Kobetards hype as 'elite' :oldlol:
Both went through the #1 seed in the east like they were standing still :lol

[tpols]

If LeBron laid an egg the way he did in the finals, then the Heat wouldn't have made it.


the mavs were on a tear in the playoffs and, the bulls looked like shit for the most part (even before miami). they would have never won anything w/ or w/o the Heat in their way.

[PickernRoller]

They are both better than any team Kobe faced from 08-10


The Deron Williams Jazz, the one-man Dwight Howard Magic, and the 49 win Celtics team in 2010 that Kobetards hype as 'elite' :oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

#youtried.

[Genaro]

They are both better than any team Kobe faced from 08-10


The Deron Williams Jazz, the one-man Dwight Howard Magic, and the 49 win Celtics team in 2010 that Kobetards hype as 'elite' :oldlol:
I can think about one team those 2 beat that won 60 games in the regular season

[PickernRoller]

I can think about one team those 2 beat that won 60 games in the regular season

The clown's circular logic is the gift that keeps on giving.....:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Showtime2001]

They are both better than any team Kobe faced from 08-10


The Deron Williams Jazz, the one-man Dwight Howard Magic, and the 49 win Celtics team in 2010 that Kobetards hype as 'elite' :oldlol:
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/13/136085/2479220-1578648373-gw-cl.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

Please don't compare the two. Kobe's 2 FMVPs are top tier FMVPs because kobe had no other superstars on his team. :bowdown: whereas lebron's are the lowest of the low fmvps because he was on a colluded SUPERTEAM :oldlol:

Lol at people who consider Bosh a superstar and not Gasol. They're either both superstars or they're both not, and I'd say neither ever were

[Im Still Ballin]

Lol at people who consider Bosh a superstar and not Gasol. They're either both superstars or they're both not, and I'd say neither ever were
Gasol definitely was

He arguably outplayed Kobe in 2010, and was no short cookie in 2009

[Showtime2001]

Gasol definitely was

He arguably outplayed Kobe in 2010, and was no short cookie in 2009
http://www.thesportscol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Kobe-Bryant-hoists-his-NBA-Finals-MVP-trophy.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/NBA+Finals+Game+7+Boston+Celtics+v+Los+Angeles+Sj4 3T5Cl5okl.jpg

[riseagainst]

2 is his lucky number


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savage

[Real14]

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#youtried.
Yea he's on crack for that.

[Bigsmoke]

who do you think was better ?

derrick rose and his merry band of hustle scrubs or the Kyle Korverless, Paul Millsap led hawks .. ?


The 98 sonic had Payton teaming up with an alcoholic and an old ass Detlef Schrempf

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol, you can't even count '98 :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol at Chicago beating Dallas.. Nobody was afraid of Chicago. We wanted the Bulls to win.

[toprange]

Lol at people who consider Bosh a superstar and not Gasol. They're either both superstars or they're both not, and I'd say neither ever were
So now kobe's last two rings were on a superteam? :facepalm Protecting the fake king again

[NBAGOAT]

just for informative purposes 55+win teams for Kobe and Lebron.

Kobe: 98 Sonics, 00 Blazers, 01 Kings, 01 Spurs, 01 Sixers, 02 Spurs, 02 Kings, 04 Spurs, 04 Twolves, 08 Spurs, 09 Magic. 11 teams

Lebron: 11 Celtics, 11 Bulls, 12 Thunder(if you extrapolate to a full season), 13 Spurs, 14 Pacers, 15 Hawks, 16 Raptors. 7 teams.

[warriorfan]

I can think about one team those 2 beat that won 60 games in the regular season

:roll:

[guy]

And Jordan beat 7 60+ win teams. Weak competition doe :oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

And Jordan beat 7 60+ win teams. Weak competition doe :oldlol:

you expand it to 55+ it's 13 for jordan. 11 for Kobe and 7 for Lebron.

[Nikola_]

And Jordan beat 7 60+ win teams. Weak competition doe :oldlol:

weak competition doe

MDE swept 5 times in the 90s doe :lol

[Disaprine]

i love how op and the other idiot tries to put 2/7 on kobe instead of where it rightfully belongs. :roll:

[feyki]

FYI LeBron has beaten 2 60 win teams in the playoffs

2011 Chicago
2015 Hawks

:roll: :roll:

[Hey Yo]

And Jordan beat 7 60+ win teams. Weak competition doe :oldlol:
Expansion era, Chico. 6 new franchises in 7yrs. Win totals by teams were inflated.

[Hey Yo]

i love how op and the other idiot tries to put 2/7 on kobe instead of where it rightfully belongs. :roll:
I know....it's crazy.

It's actually 2/3 because Kobe only went to 3 Finals as first option/captain of the team. Those are the only ones that actually count.

[kamil]

They are both better than any team Kobe faced from 08-10


The Deron Williams Jazz, the one-man Dwight Howard Magic, and the 49 win Celtics team in 2010 that Kobetards hype as 'elite' :oldlol:

Hawks? LOL.. that team was a fluke.

[ballinhun8]

Lol at Chicago beating Dallas.. Nobody was afraid of Chicago. We wanted the Bulls to win.



Lmao. "We". You mean you and the Simon's right?



Please, unlike Miami we were more than just one guy. With Dallas that year we would've matched up terrifically and wouldn't have to worry about two superstars going ham on us or having the whole opposing defense swarm in on our one guy.

[choppermagic]

i love how op and the other idiot tries to put 2/7 on kobe instead of where it rightfully belongs. :roll:


LOL exactly. Getting desperate in case LBJ fails again.

Kobe has five rings. Winning championships are what he cared about. weak sauce here by LBJ fans.

[West-Side]

just for informative purposes 55+win teams for Kobe and Lebron.

Kobe: 98 Sonics, 00 Blazers, 01 Kings, 01 Spurs, 01 Sixers, 02 Spurs, 02 Kings, 04 Spurs, 04 Twolves, 08 Spurs, 09 Magic. 11 teams

Lebron: 11 Celtics, 11 Bulls, 12 Thunder(if you extrapolate to a full season), 13 Spurs, 14 Pacers, 15 Hawks, 16 Raptors. 7 teams.

These teams plain suck though (Indy was okay, but honestly they don't get a top 3 seed out west in any year from 08' to 10').
Honestly the 16' Raptors don't make it out the 1st round from 08' to 10' in the west. I don't even know how they beat Cleveland twice. They can't even create shots.

LeBron plays ONE west team a YEAR in the playoffs (NBA finals), and the fact that THREE out of SEVEN teams are from the west, simply solidifies how pathetically weak the east has been since pretty much he entered this league. :facepalm

[SamuraiSWISH]

MJ's Bulls beat the following 60 plus win teams

98 Jazz
97 Jazz
97 Heat
96 Sonics
96 Magic
93 Suns
93 Knicks

So, 7x.

How many for Kobe and LeBron?

[Im Still Ballin]

2 and 2 for Kobe and LeBron

Some of them 90's 60 win teams be inflated by expansion teams

Take away Kobe's rookie season win wherein he was coming off the bench over Seattle and he has 1

[SamuraiSWISH]

Some of them 90's 60 win teams be inflated by expansion teams
Nah. Bad teams exist in any league.

[Im Still Ballin]

Nah. Bad teams exist in any league.
Yep

But more of them existed during the early years of the expansion

Only natural

It's how it works in any sporting league when you introduce new teams

[SamuraiSWISH]

Raptors and Grizzlies. That's it. Like I said, nothing significant enough to boost a teams record that significantly. Easy or should be easy wins exist in any league. Look at this season for prime example. This season was worse than anything I saw during the late 90s in terms of bad to mediocre ball being played through out the league with the exception of like 4x teams. 2x of which had all time great records and struggled or got whooped by an idiotic albeit talented mid 50 win team.

[NBAGOAT]

These teams plain suck though (Indy was okay, but honestly they don't get a top 3 seed out west in any year from 08' to 10').
Honestly the 16' Raptors don't make it out the 1st round from 08' to 10' in the west. I don't even know how they beat Cleveland twice. They can't even create shots.

LeBron plays ONE west team a YEAR in the playoffs (NBA finals), and the fact that THREE out of SEVEN teams are from the west, simply solidifies how pathetically weak the east has been since pretty much he entered this league. :facepalm

Well no one's denying Kobe's list is tougher, just listed for reference. I disagree however with your points. Pacers do in 10, their defense was still elite. Don't completely undersell the Raptors either, it depends who they face but they could get out the 1st round. Creating shots from bad offense is one of the things they do best actually. Hawks played terribly in the playoffs last year but that shit happens often when it's your 1st year contending. I also find a few of the teams on Kobe's list not too impressive like the 01 Sixers, the 01 Kings(Jason Williams is a huge negative and downgrade from Bibby) or 09 Magic(yes ik they beat Lebron).

[guy]

Expansion era, Chico. 6 new franchises in 7yrs. Win totals by teams were inflated.

Sure, bad teams never existed before and after for the goods teams to beat up on, and the talent pool wasn't increasing in size. :rolleyes:

And there's no way that expansion was a bigger benefit to Jordan then playing in the clearly weaker conference has been for Lebron.

[Hey Yo]

Sure, bad teams never existed before and after for the goods teams to beat up on, and the talent pool wasn't increasing in size. :rolleyes:

And there's no way that expansion was a bigger benefit to Jordan then playing in the clearly weaker conference has been for Lebron.
You're missing my point.

I'm not saying it only benefited Jordan. It benefited a lot of teams which led to teams inflated win totals. I'd rather play an expansion team (the 15 win Heat or 20 win Hornets in 1989) than a bad team with a lot of vets.

Then in 1990 you have 2 more expansion teams, Minny(22 wins) and Orlando(18 wins). That's 4 expansion teams in 2 years, plus your usual bottom feeders at the time like the Clipps, Nets and Kings.

Safe to say that teamS win totals were definitely inflated during those years due to the expansion era.