Your basketball IQ means nothing if Lebron isn't in your top 10

[Nilocon165]

I mean lets keep it real here

[TomCat]

So watching a guy hold onto the ball for 20 seconds, then do an outlet pass to player to make a last second shot is high bball IQ?

So watching a guy stiff arm his competition for no calls is considered high bball IQ?

[Chokefree]

I mean lets keep it real here
You left your toilet cleaning supplies at my house....dont forget to pick it up when you can

[Nilocon165]

You left your toilet cleaning supplies at my house....dont forget to pick it up when you can
Dammit that always happens. Will stop by soon

[Chokefree]

:rockon:
Dammit that always happens. Will stop by soon
:rockon:

[Nilocon165]

:rockon:
:rockon:
You really are a ****ing retard though aren't you. Did you even graduate high school?

[stalkerforlife]

You're 15, OP.

You just started growing pubes and touching yourself.

Don't talk to me about basketball IQ, son.

[stephanieg]

LeBron has a good case for top 10 of the 21st century. Lots of competition (Duncan, Shaq, Curry, KG, Kobe, Wade, Dirk, CP3, etc.), but certainly up there.

[Nilocon165]

You're 15, OP.

You just started growing pubes and touching yourself.

Don't talk to me about basketball IQ, son.
Was I talking to you? And how could I be 15? You know my other account is Im Still Ballin right?

[stalkerforlife]

Was I talking to you? And how could I be 15? You know my other account is Im Still Ballin right?

You said you were 15 multiple times.

I know Bransvestites are delusional and pathological liars, though.

[Mr. Jabbar]

https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/31983/file-13732472-jpg/images/bigstockphoto_toilet_cleaning_5303381-resized-600.jpg

op and his selfies :oldlol:

[r15mohd]

So watching a guy hold onto the ball for 20 seconds, then do an outlet pass to player to make a last second shot is high bball IQ?

So watching a guy stiff arm his competition for no calls is considered high bball IQ?


complains about Lebron stiff arming his competition with drives to the paint, and then also complains how today's league is soft and not aggressive enough

pick one or shut it :hammerhead:

[toprange]

I mean lets keep it real here
This coming from a member of the bran club that puts a 5 time champion who won 2 FMVPs with no superstars on his team and who has the most all-nba selections and all-defensive selections in the history of the game outside of the top 10. :wtf: :wtf: :hammerhead:

[Nilocon165]

This coming from a member of the bran club that puts a 5 time champion who won 2 FMVPs with no superstars on his team and who has the most all-nba selections and all-defensive selections in the history of the game outside of the top 10. :wtf: :wtf: :hammerhead:
......I think kobe is also top ten. I didn't mention him though.

[stalkerforlife]

This coming from a member of the bran club that puts a 5 time champion who won 2 FMVPs with no superstars on his team and who has the most all-nba selections and all-defensive selections in the history of the game outside of the top 10. :wtf: :wtf: :hammerhead:

To be fair, OP does admit Kobe is better than Bran.

[toprange]

......I think kobe is also top ten. I didn't mention him though.
its okay to rain check a spot for lebron in the top 10. But he has to get a couple legit rings without stacking up teams and then he can claim a spot in it. All his accomplishments have been based off a weak conference and stacked teams. If you have ever played any competetive game you will know that doesn't count for much

[r15mohd]

its okay to rain check a spot for lebron in the top 10. But he has to get a couple legit rings without stacking up teams and then he can claim a spot in it. All his accomplishments have been based off a weak conference and stacked teams. If you have ever played any competetive game you will know that doesn't count for much


guess we should start diminishing other "stacked" teams titles too

MJ/Pip/Worm - 6th MOY rated Kukoc
Magic/KAJ/Worthy and the rest of Showtime
KG/Jesus/Pierce
TD/French/Gino
what about that 60s Celtics squad that made 6 straight finals?
2015 Curry/Klay/Green/Iggy and 6th MOY rated MoBuckets

you know, when you look at it - the 2004 Pistons have the best title ever in the NBA - non-stacked ftw! :facepalm pour water on your keyboard, please.

[toprange]

guess we should start diminishing other "stacked" teams titles too

MJ/Pip/Worm - 6th MOY rated Kukoc
Magic/KAJ/Worthy and the rest of Showtime
KG/Jesus/Pierce
TD/French/Gino
what about that 60s Celtics squad that made 6 straight finals?
2015 Curry/Klay/Green/Iggy and 6th MOY rated MoBuckets

you know, when you look at it - the 2004 Pistons have the best title ever in the NBA - non-stacked ftw! :facepalm pour water on your keyboard, please.
Sure. It makes more sense to diminish other stacked teams than to applaud stacked teams and accomplishments in weak conferences. We are getting somewhere now :cheers: Just don't start calling all teams stacked teams.

[r15mohd]

Sure. It makes more sense to diminish other stacked teams than to applaud stacked teams and accomplishments in weak conferences. We are getting somewhere now :cheers:

showtime Lakers faced just as weak competition in the 80s as were the late 2000 and early 2010s :facepalm

and all those teams above are the definition of stacked - superstars and all-star level players combined to equal a dominant team. it's not rocket science. :rolleyes:

[Gileraracer]

Top 10 loser of all time

[riseagainst]

he is absolutely a top 10 player...


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this season.

[Dray n Klay]

he is absolutely a top 10 player...


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this season.


Your trolling is crap, pm me for tips brah :oldlol:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Your trolling is crap, pm me for tips brah :oldlol:

he aint trolling bro

[Keno]

you mean top 3, right.

[feyki]

I have him in top 3 FOAT .

[Dray n Klay]

he aint trolling bro

What does Eye Test think about these Finals btw

[CAstill]

I hate Lebron and I have him in the top 10.

[SexSymbol]

you mean like top 10 of players that are still active?
Because he's def not in the top 10 ATG list, has absolutely zero case.

[sd3035]

op and his selfies :oldlol:

looks pretty damn clean though

[Nilocon165]

you mean like top 10 of players that are still active?
Because he's def not in the top 10 ATG list, has absolutely zero case.
:coleman:

[3ball]

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Lebron fosters poor teamwork and a 2nd-best brand of basketball because he turns teammates into play-finishers by lowering their APG (playmaking) and increasing their assisted rate (play-finishing):



................................................AP G, ASSIST %....... ASSISTED RATE

Wade before Lebron (04'-10'):..... 6.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game), 34.8% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:advanced)..................29.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:shooting) <---- links to nba.com data
Wade with... Lebron (11'-14'):..... 4.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game), 25.5% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced)..................40.3% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:shooting)

Irving before Lebron (12'-14'):.... 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:per_game), 33.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:advanced)..................31.9% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:shooting)
Irving with... Lebron.. (2015):..... 5.0 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2016-sum:per_game), 25.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2016-sum:advanced)..................32.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2016-sum:shooting)

Bosh before Lebron (04'-10'):...... 2.2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game), 10.5% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:advanced)..................55.8% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:shooting)
Bosh with... Lebron (11'-14'):...... 1.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game), 8.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:advanced) ...................71.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:shooting)

[3ball]

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Love before Lebron (09'-14'):...... 2.5 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:per_game), 13.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:advanced)..................62.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:shooting)
Love with ...Lebron (15'-16'):...... 2.3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2016-sum:per_game), 11.4% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2016-sum:advanced)..................80.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2016-sum:shooting)

Mo Will before Lebron (05'-08'):.. 5.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2005-2008-sum:per_game), 30.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2005-2008-sum:advanced)..................39.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2004-2008-sum:shooting)
Mo Will with... Lebron (09'-10'):.. 4.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:per_game), 22.3% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:advanced)..................47.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:shooting)


FYI...

Pippen with... Jordan 91'-93':...... 6.5 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:per_game), 24.5% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:advanced)
Pippen w/out Jordan 94'-95':...... 5.4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1994-1995-sum:per_game), 23.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1994-1995-sum:advanced)
Pippen with... Jordan 96'-98':...... 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:per_game), 25.1% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:advanced)



Not surprisingly, his teammates' predictable play-finishing roles can't succeed against the best teams, so the story is always how Lebron's teammates underperformed.. But in reality, Lebron's style prevents them from playing to capacity, which means the team can't play to capacity and needs colluding talent to win.
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[knicksman]

For casual fans yes but for hardcore who takes context into account-no. Top 10 is all about respect factor. Nobody respects bran/wilt coz theyre all bark no bite. Their stats are inflated but you dont fear them when it matters. They are cheaters. They cheated the system coz mvps are given after RS instead of finals. They wouldnt have that resume if winning is given so much value

[LakersForlife]

2/7 you dont need iq for that you need simple math little buddy

[Gileraracer]

I hate Lebron and I have him in the top 10.

I love Lebron and i have him in my top 50

[CAstill]

I love Lebron and i have him in my top 50

He's has his deficiencies but you can't deny his resume.

[Gileraracer]

He's has his deficiencies but you can't deny his resume.

For me he has too much deficiencies.

- flopping
- bad shooting
- all the excuses
- the collusions
- the 4th quarter choking
- the sabotage job in 2011 because Wade was about to win FMVP
- the promises he didn't keep (not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, ...)
- the stiff arm, which would be an offensive fould from everyone else


All in all this excludes him from being top 30 ever

[LebronsHairline]

For me he has too much deficiencies.

- flopping
- bad shooting
- all the excuses
- the collusions
- the 4th quarter choking
- the sabotage job in 2011 because Wade was about to win FMVP
- the promises he didn't keep (not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, ...)
- the stiff arm, which would be an offensive fould from everyone else


All in all this excludes him from being top 30 ever

- small weiner

[SexSymbol]

He's has his deficiencies but you can't deny his resume.
there's 10 better resumes

[Nilocon165]

I still stand by this

[Keno]

you mean top 3, right.

called it easily too. :rockon: