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scuzzy
06-01-2016, 03:34 PM
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http://s33.postimg.org/5p6tkw1pr/paine_datalab_lebron_cast_2.png

Dray n Klay
06-01-2016, 03:49 PM
He's played on some of the worst teams in modern history





the 2015, 2014, and 2007 supporting casts would probably be the wrost team in the league without LeBron. Its a surprise they even made the Finals

scuzzy
06-01-2016, 04:00 PM
Lets rank Kobe's vs. Lebron's supporting casts to make the Finals

Kobe:

#12
#13
#15
#17
#27
#34
#43

Lebron

#10
#21
#40
#56
#61
#62


So on average out of 62 Finals teams:

Kobe's Finals supporting casts overall ranks: 23rd all time

Lebrons Finals supporting casts overall ranks: 41st all time


And that's not including this year where the Cavaliers would be ranked between 50-60

Hey Yo
06-01-2016, 04:44 PM
James haters avoiding this like it's a shower.

ArbitraryWater
06-01-2016, 04:56 PM
Too complex.. '2/6' and 'stat padder who makes teammates worse' is easier.

Gileraracer
06-01-2016, 04:59 PM
You Lebron stans never run out of excuses for all the fails you idol had

NBAGOAT
06-01-2016, 05:02 PM
we all know lazeruss is going pop up in this thread with this stat saying Wilt underachieved the most in the Finals.

Hey Yo
06-01-2016, 05:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj5GnCWXAAAI3UT.jpg

Mr. Jabbar
06-01-2016, 05:22 PM
"one man show"

http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png

3ball
06-01-2016, 05:46 PM
538 ranking of Supporting Casts:

http://s33.postimg.org/5p6tkw1pr/paine_datalab_lebron_cast_2.png



Jordan's 1991 and 1993 casts are ranked lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts - that proves that Jordan WON with less than Lebron ever did

Optimus Prime
06-01-2016, 05:47 PM
"one man show"

http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png

:bowdown: :lol :oldlol: :roll:

STATUTORY
06-01-2016, 05:48 PM
Kevin Love was a top 3 PF and Kyrie Irving was a top 5 PG before Lebron

no excuses

Dray n Klay
06-01-2016, 05:48 PM
Jordan's 1991 and 1993 casts are ranked lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts - that proves that Jordan WON with less than Lebron ever did

This also PROVES that Jordan himself wouldn't have won with Lebrons 2007, 2014, 2015 casts, as they are worse than any cast Jordan won with.


Jordan goes 2/6 with LeBron's cast :confusedshrug:

scuzzy
06-01-2016, 06:02 PM
Kevin Love was a top 3 PF and Kyrie Irving was a top 5 PG before Lebron

no excuses

And yet, Kyrie and Love never sniffed the playoffs prior to Lebron

Shaq, Harper, Grant, Payton, Malone, Horry all made Finals prior to Kobe

Chadwin
06-01-2016, 06:26 PM
That just shows how great Hakeem was in 94.

3ball
06-01-2016, 06:35 PM
This also PROVES that Jordan himself wouldn't have won with Lebrons 2007, 2014, 2015 casts, as they are worse than any cast Jordan won with.


No it doesn't - it only shows that Jordan won with less than Lebron won with - it doesn't show that Jordan couldn't have won with EVEN less.

We don't know how bad a cast Jordan could've won with - none of his non-championship casts are on the list

3ball
06-01-2016, 06:37 PM
Jordan doesn't make it in 2007


The conference was so weak at the time, that Lebron made the Finals by averaging only 25 ppg on 42% in 2nd Round, and 25 ppg on 45% in ECF against Detroit.

These would be the worst stats of any series in Jordan's career.

In playoff battles with the world champion Pistons (Dumars, Rodman), Jordan averaged 31 ppg on 48% - he wouldn't need these stats to beat the 2007 version of Detroit, who only won 53 games and started the dilapidated Webber at center.





Lebron averaged 11 rebounds in 2015 playoffs - Jordan can't replicate that


Lebron can't replicate Jordan's 11.2 assist average in 1991 playoffs..

Here's the reality about the 2015 Finals - the Cavs were competitive and won 2 games, even though Lebron shot 39% and let Iggy get 10 ppg above his normal average..

Accordingly, Jordan would've won because he never let Magic or Drexler average 10 ppg above their norm (let alone Iggy), nor did Jordan ever shoot that poorly against single-coverage.





Jordan loses in 2013


In 2013 Finals, Lebron scored 17, 18, and 17 points in the first 3 games.

Jordan would never play this bad - his career playoff and Finals average was DOUBLE that and he never scored less than 22 points in the Finals.

So Jordan would've had a 2-1 or 3-0 lead after 3 games, not a 1-2 deficit like Lebron.. Jordan wouldn't need Ray Allen to save him like Lebron did.. :pimp:
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