Be honest.... Does this Cavs team make the playoffs without LeBron?

[Dray n Klay]

They're best players outside of Bron are 35 years old Richard Jefferson and 33 year old Channing Frye :roll:



Do they even make the playoffs ?

[STATUTORY]

still a top 3 seed in the east

Kyrie and Love are all star top 3 in their position if there's no Lebron.

You have to factor in that Lebron makes his teammates much worse

[ripthekik]

Hell yeah, cause Irving and Love would be playing like Wade and Bosh earlier. Lebron is holding them back

[CelticBaller]

Damage control :oldlol:

[ekosky]

Nope, same results pre-LeBron return.

No playoffs. Just irrelevant "empty stat stars" on a bottom dwelling team leading the way.

[Real14]

Yes. End thread.

[Bigsmoke]

With Kyrie Irving missing like a third of the Season? No

[Done_And_Done]

Absolutely and even moreso in the east

Try again f*uckboy

[Im Still Ballin]

2-14 without LBJ since he returned

we already know the answer OP

The facts speak for themselves

[PsychoBe]

be honest.... does op make it out of his mom's basement without ish to distract him?

[bobopenguin]

clearly lebron made all stars into role players.

wade played like a superstar without Bron.

[Dray n Klay]

clearly lebron made all stars into role players.

wade played like a superstar without Bron.


Wade missed the playoffs without LeBron last year dumbass :oldlol:

[Tmuston Beltics]

Yes because if they had no Lebron they would have like 20m salary cap left to get another superstar. Are you assuming if they had no Lebron they would not get someone to fill the spot?

[NattyPButter]

no because defense would be horrible.

[TheReal Kendall]

In the east. Yes.

Put this team with LeBron in the west and they won't make the playoffs

[Bigsmoke]

Yes because if they had no Lebron they would have like 20m salary cap left to get another superstar. Are you assuming if they had no Lebron they would not get someone to fill the spot?

That wasn't the question

They had the extra salary cap from 2010-2014 and what did they accomplished?

[SpecialQue]

It's crazy. I bet if Lebron were in control of what players they got and who they hired as coach, the team would do so much better.

Oh wait...

[Noyze]

So you guys remember the year before LeBron came back? Most Media personalities had the Cavs making the playoffs, east was very weak at the time. Everyone was high on Kyrie, he won MVP of the World's and the Uncle Drew commercials were rollin. The dude is a loser, recorded a couple 0 assist games, he couldn't even lead the Cavs to more then 25 wins. Kevin Love is soft and just as bad plus they're both negative defenders.

Not a huge LeBron fan but he makes this team so much better when he's on the floor. Without him their in the lottery cause Kyrie and Love don't know how to win.

[Bigsmoke]

Yes because if they had no Lebron they would have like 20m salary cap left to get another superstar. Are you assuming if they had no Lebron they would not get someone to fill the spot?

That wasn't the question

They had the extra salary cap from 2010-2014 and what did they accomplished?

[FireDavidKahn]

No chance.

[jayfan]

So you guys remember the year before LeBron came back? Most Media personalities had the Cavs making the playoffs, east was very weak at the time. Everyone was high on Kyrie, he won MVP of the World's and the Uncle Drew commercials were rollin. The dude is a loser, recorded a couple 0 assist games, he couldn't even lead the Cavs to more then 25 wins. Kevin Love is soft and just as bad plus they're both negative defenders.

Not a huge LeBron fan but he makes this team so much better when he's on the floor. Without him their in the lottery cause Kyrie and Love don't know how to win.

You realized the Cavs overhauled the roster for Lebron, right? Kyrie didn't have this team pre-lebron.



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[GrapeApe]

Wade missed the playoffs without LeBron last year dumbass :oldlol:

The Heat missed the playoffs in 2015 because their opening night lineup played 8 games together all season and they had 28 different starting lineups. Hardly anyone is making the playoffs under those circumstances.

This year Wade carried his team to within one game of the ECF without Bosh and with Whiteside missing over half the ECSF. He led the Heat in total points, assists, rebounds, blocks, and 3pt%, the oldest player in NBA history to do that in a playoff series.

[Bigsmoke]

You realized the Cavs overhauled the roster for Lebron, right? Kyrie didn't have this team pre-lebron.



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The Pistons > Cavaliers without LeBron