Kids, Do You Understand Now How GOAT 6 for 6 With 6 FMVP Is?

[Bless Mathews]

GOAT gonna FUCCIN GOAT

Bron ain't shit.

Curry gonna be 0/2 on FMVP


6/6 with 6 FMVP

Absolute GOAT

[sportjames23]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SouBeachTalents]

Too bad they weren't around in his era, Russell would have been 11/12 with like 7 FMVP's

[FireDavidKahn]

Too bad they weren't around in his era, Russell would have been 11/12 with like 7 FMVP's
But didn't.

[KiiiiNG]

Could've been 8 for 8 had he not got his father killed. GOAT.

[Showtime2001]

GOAT gonna FUCCIN GOAT

Bron ain't shit.

Curry gonna be 0/2 on FMVP


6/6 with 6 FMVP

Absolute GOAT
:bowdown: :bowdown:

[ClipperRevival]

It's a learning process. As these youngsters get older and get more postseasons in their bag, they will realize just how impressive it is. Eventually, the truth will settle in for most of them at some point.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

It's a learning process. As these youngsters get older and get more postseasons in their bag, they will realize just how impressive it is. Eventually, the truth will settle in for most of them at some point.

And then they will take our place..... arguing with the new kids that Karl Anthony Towns or whoever is not GOAT.

The cycle continues.

Michael Jordan was special, we all knew it when he was still playing. He was once in a lifetime... like Babe Ruth, Ali, etc

[Bless Mathews]

It's a learning process. As these youngsters get older and get more postseasons in their bag, they will realize just how impressive it is. Eventually, the truth will settle in for most of them at some point.


Word.

:applause:

Looking back, those of us to witness it, are lucky.

Lucky to see the goat athlete in any sport.

No one is really even close.

No one realistically even has a CHANCE

[oarabbus]

It's a learning process. As these youngsters get older and get more postseasons in their bag, they will realize just how impressive it is. Eventually, the truth will settle in for most of them at some point.


And one day you'll realize how much more impressive Russell 11/12 with ELEVEN RINGS is than Jordan's measly six

[ClipperRevival]

And then they will take our place..... arguing with the new kids that Karl Anthony Towns or whoever is not GOAT.

The cycle continues.

Michael Jordan was special, we all knew it when he was still playing. He was once in a lifetime... like Babe Ruth, Ali, etc

Yeah, there are all-time great players and then there are icons: guys who transcended the sport and will never be forgotten. Jordan, Ali and Ruth are 3 from a very short list.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yeah, there are all-time great players and then there are icons: guys who transcended the sport and will never be forgotten. Jordan, Ali and Ruth are 3 from a very short list.

Gretzky too. That's probably the sports mount rushmore

[ClipperRevival]

Word.

:applause:

Looking back, those of us to witness it, are lucky.

Lucky to see the goat athlete in any sport.

No one is really even close.

No one realistically even has a CHANCE

Yeah, as a person who loves this game, I feel privileged to have seen MJ. As the years pass by, the more I appreciate his greatness. He was pretty much the perfect bball player both athletically and mentally. Athleticism alone takes you so far. The desire to win only takes you so far. But give one guy the perfect bball body/athleticism and mind and you had MJ, the GOAT.

:bowdown:

[ClipperRevival]

Gretzky too. That's probably the sports mount rushmore

Well, he was about as dominant as MJ at his sport but I don't know if he transcended the sport. MJ did by becoming a global icon and influenced every day culture with his shoes, baggy shorts and ability to generate more money than any athlete outside the court. He even influenced every day culture with the term, "the Michael Jordan of...." That statement is used in every facet of life when someone becomes so great at something.

I think Tyson is another icon.

[Soundwave]

Yup, probably dawning on a bunch of kids now.

Gretzky was incredible, but a single hockey player simply can't control an entire game by himself, not even Gretzky.

Most star forwards play 20-23 minutes a night at best, that means they're on the bench for 2/3rds of the game basically.

The 80s Oilers were also stacked beyond belief, it would be like Jordan on the Showtime Lakers in addition to Magic and Kareem.

They won another Cup without Gretzky, and two Conference Finals even after that without Gretzky AND Messier.

Jordan is the GOAT.

[Duffy Pratt]

Yes. And if Curry goes on to win this year, and the next four years, but never picks up a FMVP, I am sure that he will think back on his career as being unsatisfactory. It's a team game. Curry is not in competition with his teammates.

Today he only had 18 9 and 4 in 25 minutes, in a 30 point blowout. What a horrible game. He should be ashamed to show himself in Cleveland on Wednesday.

[livinglegend]

But didn't.

But he has the FMVP named after him. :applause: :applause:
Russell is the GOAT.

[Young X]

Especially when he had some of the greatest, most legendary performances and moments in the process.

I'm just sitting here picturing Michael Jordan letting Draymond Green outplay him in the finals and I can't do it.

[Soundwave]

But he has the FMVP named after him. :applause: :applause:
Russell is the GOAT.

Not even top 3.

Basketball in the 60s simply wasn't a mature sport, what kind of coaching would one have recieved in the 40s/50s, few teams, 70% of the league was white and under 6'6, 80% of black people lived in poverty where making ends meet was more important than playing sports, etc. etc. etc.

Russell played in a weak era. I know some people don't want to accept that but it's the damn truth.

A player like JR Smith or Tristan Thompson would a star in that era.

Not a goddamn chance those 60s Celtics win multiple titles in any other decade post-ABA merger IMO. They'd get wrecked by the 80s Lakers, 76ers, Celtics, Pistons (take your pick) and wouldn't even be competitive against the 90s Bulls or Shaq-Kobe Lakers.

[SouBeachTalents]

Especially when he had some of the greatest, most legendary performances and moments in the process.

I'm just sitting here picturing Michael Jordan letting Draymond Green outplay him in the finals and I can't do it.

Or Jordan having 29 points combined after Game 2 of the Finals

[Bless Mathews]

Or Jordan having 29 points combined after Game 2 of the Finals

Nope. never.


Goat gonna goat.

Played BETTER when it counted the most.

Pure goat

[livinglegend]

Not even top 3.

Basketball in the 60s simply wasn't a mature sport, what kind of coaching would one have recieved in the 40s/50s, few teams, 70% of the league was white and under 6'6, 80% of black people lived in poverty where making ends meet was more important than playing sports, etc. etc. etc.

Russell played in a weak era. I know some people don't want to accept that but it's the damn truth.

A player like JR Smith or Tristan Thompson would a star in that era.

Not a goddamn chance those 60s Celtics win multiple titles in any other decade post-ABA merger IMO. They'd get wrecked by the 80s Lakers, 76ers, or Celtics (take your pick).
You can't prove the parts in bold so they don't mean anything.
The other part of your post are things russell didn't have control over.
He did the best with what he had which makes him goat. The greatest winner ever.
Jordan also played in a weak era. His team was contending without him, that's how the rest of the league was compared to the Bulls.

[Bless Mathews]

But he has the FMVP named after him. :applause: :applause:
Russell is the GOAT.

Russell's team was STACKED.

And was an 8 team league. Going up against white 6'6" 200 pound camel non filter smokers.


GTFO.

[livinglegend]

Nope. never.


Goat gonna goat.

Played BETTER when it counted the most.

Pure goat

Russell also did that.
He had some of the greatest game 7 performances ever.
And he never lost a game 7.
GOAT

[livinglegend]

Russell's team was STACKED.

And was an 8 team league. Going up against white 6'6" 200 pound camel non filter smokers.


GTFO.

And bulls were not stacked? :roll: :roll: :roll:
They won 55 games when jordan was replaced with a scrub.
They would have won more if their key players didn't miss games.

[Bless Mathews]

Yup, probably dawning on a bunch of kids now.

Gretzky was incredible, but a single hockey player simply can't control an entire game by himself, not even Gretzky.

Most star forwards play 20-23 minutes a night at best, that means they're on the bench for 2/3rds of the game basically.

The 80s Oilers were also stacked beyond belief, it would be like Jordan on the Showtime Lakers in addition to Magic and Kareem.

They won another Cup without Gretzky, and two Conference Finals even after that without Gretzky AND Messier.

Jordan is the GOAT.

Goat knowledge on Gretzky.

:applause:

I thought Gretzky was close to mj in overall goatness, but that just kills that. M

:applause:

[Soundwave]

You can't prove the parts in bold so they don't mean anything.
The other part of your post are things russell didn't have control over.
He did the best with what he had which makes him goat. The greatest winner ever.
Jordan also played in a weak era. His team was contending without him, that's how the rest of the league was compared to the Bulls.

Russell is one of the most overrated athletes ever.

His Celtics would not even be competitive against any of the dynasty teams post 1980. Even put the Bulls aside, put them against the 80s Lakers or Celtics or Pistons or 76ers. Put them agains the 90s Magic or Pacers or Knicks or Sonics or Suns or Blazers or Jazz. They would get demolished.

Basketball development was a joke in the 40s/50s (the era in which Russell's competition would have developed in).

Russell himself has said he didn't even played till he was like 13 and even then it wasn't on a proper basketball hoop because they didn't have any around.

The only guys who really had proper facilities to train in constantly were unathletic white stiffs who were 6'6/6'7 at best and could dribble with only one hand.

I can him credit for developing the league and developing the ground work for proper basketball, but he is no where close to the best basketball player ever. No f**king way.

If he played in any other era he would be lucky to have 1 or 2 titles as a secondary option.

[Bless Mathews]

And bulls were not stacked? :roll: :roll: :roll:
They won 55 games when jordan was replaced with a scrub.
They would have won more if their key players didn't miss games.

8 teams.

8 teams.

STACKED.

Jordan less team won "regular season " games.

Whoopty doo.

Seriously, there were 8 teams back then.

STACKED team.

Did the Jordan less Bulls play teams that had 6'6" 185 pound centers that smoked camel non filters????

[FKAri]

The best player ever. He was also lucky enough to have a great team and mgmt around him while still in his prime (many superstars of the past didn't have that luxury and don't get the cred the deserve cuz of it). Still the GOAT tho. I also wish he hadn't taken that 2 year layoff. I always wonder what could've been. Would he have burnt out? Would he have lost? How many would he win in a row?

[livinglegend]

Russell is one of the most overrated athletes ever.

His Celtics would not even be competitive against any of the dynasty teams post 1980. Even put the Bulls aside, put them against the 80s Lakers or Celtics or Pistons or 76ers. Put them agains the 90s Magic or Pacers or Knicks or Sonics or Suns or Blazers or Jazz. They would get demolished.

Basketball development was a joke in the 40s/50s (the era in which Russell's competition would have developed in).

Russell himself has said he didn't even played till he was like 13 and even then it wasn't on a proper basketball hoop because they didn't have any around.

The only guys who really had proper facilities to train in constantly were unathletic white stiffs who were 6'6/6'7 at best and could dribble with only one hand.

All the bolded parts of your post are statements that you can't prove or you have no prove of. THey don't mean anything.

[livinglegend]

8 teams.

8 teams.

STACKED.

Jordan less team won "regular season " games.

Whoopty doo.

Seriously, there were 8 teams back then.

STACKED team.

Did the Jordan less Bulls play teams that had 6'6" 185 pound centers that smoked camel non filters????

Who cares if they were 8 teams? It only means the talent was more cocentrated.
Also, how many contenders are there each season in today's game? 3-4 max.
Jordan also had expension teams. :lol
Jordan less team also won playoffs games. They were LEGIT contenders when they replaced jordan with a scrub.
And let me remind you, jordan without a stacked team is 1-9 in the playoffs.

[Bless Mathews]

All the bolded parts of your post are statements that you can't prove or you have no prove of. THey don't mean anything.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

You lost.

You're a FUCCIN clown. 50's/60's players straight SCRUBS.

jr smith would average 50 in the 50's

[livinglegend]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You lost.

You're a FUCCIN clown. 50's/60's players straight SCRUBS.

jr smith would average 50 in the 50's

All the bolded parts of your post can't be proven.
Therefore, it doesn't mean anything.

[Bless Mathews]

Who cares if they were 8 teams? It only means the talent was more cocentrated.
Also, how many contenders are there each season in today's game? 3-4 max.
Jordan also had expension teams. :lol
Jordan less team also won playoffs games.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Talent????

:roll:

6'6" 185 pound white centers that smoked non filter camels??

Talent???

Oh my My stomach !!!!

The dribbling of the 50's !! Have you seen it??

Their shooting form!!! That skill!!!!

You are a clown.

Ps

Did the Jordan less bulls play 6'6" white boy centers that smoked non filter camels at halftime??

[livinglegend]

I do have a great argument for Russell as the GOAT:
- He is the greatest winner in history by far. Everywhere he went, winning followed him. The GOAL of the game is to win and Russell did it the best by far. Today, winning is everything. Everyone only cares about winning, but when it comes to talking about GOAT, everyone ignores how Russell kills anyone else in that category.
- He has as many MVPs as Jordan. So you can't say he was just another Horry. He was clearly the best player of the Celtics. He was the leader.
- he is the only player-coach who ever won a championship.
- He stepped up his game in the big games.
- He is considered the greatest defender ever and one of the greatest rebounders ever.
- FMVP is named after him.

[livinglegend]

Did the Jordan less bulls play 6'6" white boy centers that smoked non filter camels at halftime??

Wilt wasn't 6,6. Bob petit wasn't 6,6.

[atljonesbro]

Curry sweeps the 90s in that garbage expansion era. What a low quality game that was being played back then

[Bless Mathews]

Wilt wasn't 6,6. Bob petit wasn't 6,6.

Dang.

You are dumber than I thought.

:facepalm

Follow along corky ..

We were arguing about competition and how the Jordan less Bulls won 55 games.

Follow ????!

Meaning Jordan's competition wasn't tough because pretty much the same team won 55 games.

Got it ???

Russells competition was 6'6' and literally smoked cigarettes at halftime.

Bob petit was 6'9 205

Wooooooo. WATCH OUT!!!!!!!

[Bless Mathews]

Curry sweeps the 90s in that garbage expansion era. What a low quality game that was being played back then

Iggy got FMVP

Draymond about to.

[atljonesbro]

Iggy got FMVP

Draymond about to.
See the difference between Curry and Jordan is that Steph will do ANYTHING it takes to win. He's willing to let his teammates step up and sacrafice his own glory for the sake of the team. Jordan is NOT willing to do that hence the reason he got smacked around and bullied in the 80s. He has always been most concerned with getting his own before others. Maybe if he played a more team oriented game he would have got further but he just waited until the watered down 90s so he could stat pad and win. Curry has actually shown he's a true leader and a guy that his teammates love. Jordan on the other hand? :lol

[livinglegend]

Dang.

You are dumber than I thought.

:facepalm

Follow along corky ..

We were arguing about competition and how the Jordan less Bulls won 55 games.

Follow ????!

Meaning Jordan's competition wasn't tough because pretty much the same team won 55 games.

Got it ???

Russells competition was 6'6' and literally smoked cigarettes at halftime.

Bob petit was 6'9 205

Wooooooo. WATCH OUT!!!!!!!

All the bolded part are useless trash that i shouldn't have read.
Bob petit was 6'9 and Russell was 6'10. WOW such a huge difference!

NEXT RETARD please.

[Bawkish]

See the difference between Curry and Jordan is that Steph will do ANYTHING it takes to win. He's willing to let his teammates step up and sacrafice his own glory for the sake of the team. Jordan is NOT willing to do that hence the reason he got smacked around and bullied in the 80s. He has always been most concerned with getting his own before others. Maybe if he played a more team oriented game he would have got further but he just waited until the watered down 90s so he could stat pad and win. Curry has actually shown he's a true leader and a guy that his teammates love. Jordan on the other hand? :lol

Curry is so beta, no wonder he will get crushed badly by alpha MJ had they met in the finals

[Bless Mathews]

All the bolded part are useless trash that i shouldn't have read.
Bob petit was 6'9 and Russell was 6'10. WOW such a huge difference!

NEXT RETARD please.

Dang. You are borderline handicapped !'n

6'9" 205 AINT SHIT!!!!!

THE DUDE WOULDNT HAVE MADE A D 1 SCHOOL!!!

RUSSELS COMPETITION WAS NOTHING BUT WHITE SCRUBS THAT SMOKED CIGARETTES AT HALFTIME.

HIS COMPETITION WAS COMPLETE GARBAGE

6'9 205 WAS ONE OF HIS IF NOT TOUGHEST COMPETITION

ARE YOU FUCCIN SERIOUS????

[Bless Mathews]

See the difference between Curry and Jordan is that Steph will do ANYTHING it takes to win. He's willing to let his teammates step up and sacrafice his own glory for the sake of the team. Jordan is NOT willing to do that hence the reason he got smacked around and bullied in the 80s. He has always been most concerned with getting his own before others. Maybe if he played a more team oriented game he would have got further but he just waited until the watered down 90s so he could stat pad and win. Curry has actually shown he's a true leader and a guy that his teammates love. Jordan on the other hand? :lol

Curry is a rich beta white boy from the upper upper upper class.


No match for mj.

[Soundwave]

All the bolded parts of your post are statements that you can't prove or you have no prove of. THey don't mean anything.

:lol

In the MODERN era, you know you the one that has an NBA with dozens of 7 footers and black people aren't living in segregated mass poverty and basketball development and coaching is actually a thing ... aka: REAL basketball, you're not going to see 6 NBA titles with one guy winning 6 FMVPS any time soon.

Shaq was probably the one guy who had the ability to do it and he didn't want to put in the work.

And by the way, a prime Shaq would eat Bill Russell like a plate of BBQ wings and toss Cousy around like a little child.

[Straight_Ballin]

Well, he was about as dominant as MJ at his sport but I don't know if he transcended the sport. MJ did by becoming a global icon and influenced every day culture with his shoes, baggy shorts and ability to generate more money than any athlete outside the court. He even influenced every day culture with the term, "the Michael Jordan of...." That statement is used in every facet of life when someone becomes so great at something.

I think Tyson is another icon.

Was there a single kid on the courts from 90-96 that didn't have their tongue hanging out their mouth trying to emulate MJ? I never saw one that wasn't.

[coin24]

MJ GOAT:bowdown:

Only morons at espn hyping james as a money maker (even they are prob laughing about it) knows hes garbage:lol

[Psileas]

Not even top 3.


Only Wilt, Kareem and Jordan contend with Russell. Magic, if you stretch it.


Basketball in the 60s simply wasn't a mature sport, what kind of coaching would one have recieved in the 40s/50s, few teams, 70% of the league was white and under 6'6, 80% of black people lived in poverty where making ends meet was more important than playing sports, etc. etc. etc.

Bullshit. Your height estimate figures are off. Few teams mean nothing as far as competition goes and black people living in poor areas and excelling later in basketball isn't something that ended when Russell's era ended. Whites have always been living under more wealthy/healthy conditions and the NBA is nowhere near a "rich kid's league".


Russell played in a weak era. I know some people don't want to accept that but it's the damn truth.

A player like JR Smith or Tristan Thompson would a star in that era.

No such crap is truth unless you prove so.


Not a goddamn chance those 60s Celtics win multiple titles in any other decade post-ABA merger IMO. They'd get wrecked by the 80s Lakers, 76ers, Celtics, Pistons (take your pick) and wouldn't even be competitive against the 90s Bulls or Shaq-Kobe Lakers.

Right, they "wouldn't even be competitive" against teams that weren't anywhere near as deep as they were. :rolleyes: Let me guess, you won't be on the analogous boat when in 2030 (or even nowadays) someone claims that the 90's Bulls wouldn't even be competitive against the 2030 NBA, because, you think that basketball development stopped somewhere in the 80's or the 90's and from then on, it either remains unchanged or moves backwards, right?

[plowking]

It's a learning process. As these youngsters get older and get more postseasons in their bag, they will realize just how impressive it is. Eventually, the truth will settle in for most of them at some point.

It is a learning process. Just how you learnt only 2 or 3 weeks ago that Payton didn't guard Jordan for the first 3 games of the 1996 NBA finals. :oldlol:

Stanning a player you never actually saw play. :oldlol:

[Overdrive]

See the difference between Curry and Jordan is that Steph will do ANYTHING it takes to win.

You mean riding the pine for half the game, because his shooting is off once he faces tougher defenses?

For real, though, the Warriors during these playoffs didn't show sophisticated basketball. The make 1 pass and then it's either a three point attempt or the paint is open. They thrive on the defenses' expectation that everyone can shoot and has to be defended like it. This also means that Curry can have off nights and disappear for stretches without the Warriors getting into deep drouble. They still have others that open the floor with their 3threes. Most other teams go down with their first option, the Warriors don't and that doesn't have anything to do with Curry sacrificing stats and more with the team make up.