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Dray n Klay
06-06-2016, 01:43 PM
Whats the explanation? :confusedshrug:

sportjames23
06-06-2016, 01:45 PM
Not sure, OP, but tell us more about that 2/7 coming up.

ripthekik
06-06-2016, 01:47 PM
Cuz those two are too busy winning finals.

elementally morale
06-06-2016, 01:49 PM
Whats the explanation? :confusedshrug:

Jorsan wasn't good from the distance. Kobe is no Curry either but he was a better shooter than James. He just took a crazy amount of end ot the shotclock, desperation and and of quarters threes. His shot selection was also poor some of the time, but mostly he just didn't care much about his percentages.

PJR
06-06-2016, 01:50 PM
Why does Wade have more rings than Bran?

Mr. Jabbar
06-06-2016, 01:52 PM
https://awaypoint.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/cherry-picking-1.jpg

ArbitraryWater
06-06-2016, 01:52 PM
Jorsan wasn't good from the distance. Kobe is no Curry either but he was a better shooter than James. He just took a crazy amount of end ot the shotclock, desperation and and of quarters threes. His shot selection was also poor some of the time, but mostly he just didn't care much about his percentages.

:roll:

You dont believe that, do you?

You know, Basketball Reference now makes it possible to check half court shots/full court heaves, so you can check up on your lies yourself.

LeBron's also taken a similar amount in the final 5 seconds of the shot clock.

Just stop spreading myths. Cant have that shit, young kids read on here and you'll influence them with lies.

The Iron Fist
06-06-2016, 01:53 PM
Why does DJ Mbenga have as many rings as bron?

GINOBILI!
06-06-2016, 01:53 PM
Jordan had one of the best J's in the league. OP just trolling by taking it from his name.

sportjames23
06-06-2016, 01:53 PM
Cuz those two are too busy winning finals.

Savage :lol

beastee
06-06-2016, 01:54 PM
When you have one of the best Midrange shots and fadeaways the league has ever seen, lead the NBA in PER for playoff careers... you really don't have to rely on a 3 point shot.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career_p.html

You can have the 3pt %, I'll take the 6/6.

elementally morale
06-06-2016, 01:55 PM
:roll:

You dont believe that, do you?


I do.

I'm not talking about half court shots. End of quarter threes and a lot more often, end of the shotclock threes. He took 2-3 such shots post 2005. Rarely making them.

sportjames23
06-06-2016, 01:55 PM
When you have one of the best Midrange shots and fadeaways the league has ever seen, lead the NBA in PER for playoff careers... you really don't have to rely on a 3 point shot.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career_p.html

You can have the 3pt %, I'll take the 6/6.

Got 'em.

stalkerforlife
06-06-2016, 01:57 PM
Because he's routinely given 5+ feet of space to shoot and he refuses to take low percentage shots to end quarters or before the shot clock ends.

Enjoy 2/7, loser.

ArbitraryWater
06-06-2016, 01:58 PM
I do.

I'm not talking about half court shots. End of quarter threes and a lot more often, end of the shotclock threes. He took 2-3 such shots post 2005. Rarely making them.

half court/full court shots are a pretty clear indicator of that..

I remember seing specifically that stat you need somewhere, and for now, all you have is my word, that Kobe on average did not attempt more end of quarter/shot clock attempts than LeBron...

stalkerforlife
06-06-2016, 02:00 PM
:roll:

You dont believe that, do you?

You know, Basketball Reference now makes it possible to check half court shots/full court heaves, so you can check up on your lies yourself.

LeBron's also taken a similar amount in the final 5 seconds of the shot clock.

Just stop spreading myths. Cant have that shit, young kids read on here and you'll influence them with lies.

Stop the BS, Bransvestite.

He's routinely given 5+ feet of air space to shoot beyond the arc.

He's essentially shooting a wide open stand still three a majority of the time.

elementally morale
06-06-2016, 02:04 PM
half court/full court shots are a pretty clear indicator of that..

I remember seing specifically that stat you need somewhere, and for now, all you have is my word, that Kobe on average did not attempt more end of quarter/shot clock attempts than LeBron...

Neither of them are really good 3 point shooters. However, if I really need a three pointer in an important game, I'd side with Kobe. That said, I hated the amount of ill-advised shots he took. But hey, it came with the package.

Young X
06-06-2016, 02:06 PM
"Ordan"?

How do you still have the nerve to disrespect someone like Michael Jordan after what we're seeing in these finals?

"Ordan" dropped 35 with 6 threes in one half of a finals game to send a message. THAT is living up to your hype. THAT is doing something legendary.

Not getting outplayed by Draymond Green and looking like a chump.

STATUTORY
06-06-2016, 04:33 PM
cause defense leaves him wide open to shoot the 3 since he sucks at it

3ball
06-06-2016, 04:38 PM
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Effective FG% All Jumpshots

(All stats are from NBA.com and linked)


Lebron 2004 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 35.6%, 324/998
Lebron 2005 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 39.9%, 400/1136
Lebron 2006 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 41.7%, 423/1166
Lebron 2007 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 39.5%, 372/1066
Lebron 2008 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 39.4%, 338/1001
Lebron 2009 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 42.2%, 366/1024
Lebron 2010 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 43.4%, 356/970
Lebron 2011 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 45.4%, 393/968
Lebron 2012 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 43.7%, 290/726
Lebron 2013 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 49.0%, 333/784
Lebron 2014 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 47.0%, 288/736
Lebron 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 43.1%, 280/788
Lebron 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 39.0%, 181/543

Jordan 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 51.2%, 727/1528

Bryant 2000 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=1999-00&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 38.5%, 328/851
Bryant 2001 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 43.0%, 460/1141
Bryant 2002 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2001-02&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 41.8%, 478/1184
Bryant 2003 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2002-03&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 44.1%, 597/1494
Bryant 2004 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2003-04&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 40.3%, 282/787
Bryant 2005 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2004-05&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 43.5%, 346/947
Bryant 2006 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 46.5%, 709/1724
Bryant 2007 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 46.7%, 556/1358
Bryant 2008 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 44.6%, 468/1217
Bryant 2009 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 45.0%, 519/1285
Bryant 2010 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/977/stats/shooting/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Regular%20Season): 43.8%, 444/1126



Only Jordan cracked 50% on his jumpshots, despite 30% more volume.

Btw, effective FG% accounts for the benefit of 3-pointers - Jordan was simply a much better jumpshooter than Lebron and Kobe - the stats don't lie

riseagainst
06-06-2016, 05:11 PM
Cuz those two are too busy winning finals.


rekt....

97 bulls
06-06-2016, 05:15 PM
Because the 3 wasn't really used early in Jordans career. He's actually not a bad 3pt shooter when he's taken a decent amount of threes. Even excluding the years with the line moved in

Dresta
06-06-2016, 06:18 PM
And why does Wade shoot a higher percentage than any of them in the playoffs? With Lebron at the bottom btw...

What a regular season warrior Lebron must be.

Done_And_Done
06-06-2016, 06:24 PM
Cuz those two are too busy winning finals.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

OP can hardly feel his ass right now... Roasted

kamil
06-06-2016, 07:11 PM
Cuz those two are too busy winning finals.

Rekt by rip. :cheers:

sportjames23
06-06-2016, 09:26 PM
"Ordan"?

How do you still have the nerve to disrespect someone like Michael Jordan after what we're seeing in these finals?

"Ordan" dropped 35 with 6 threes in one half of a finals game to send a message. THAT is living up to your hype. THAT is doing something legendary.

Not getting outplayed by Draymond Green and looking like a chump.

BOOM

Just about very Finals, Bron gets shown up by a player not on his level. MJ woulda never let a player of Steph's caliber, much less someone like Draymond, show him up. And he damn sure would let a bench player win FMVP over him.

deja vu
06-06-2016, 09:58 PM
His 3-point percentages will go down as he gets older.

Put that into your thick head OP.