Phil Jackson: LeBron needs to take over like Michael Jordan

[AirTupac]

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-phil-jackson-michael-jordan-0-2-nba-finals-cleveland-cavaliers-chicago-bulls-060716

Phil Jackson believes LeBron James can bring the Cleveland Cavaliers back from an 0-2 hole and beat the Golden State Warriors in the NBA Finals. But it's going to take an unworldly performance from James, much like the one Michael Jordan put on 23 years ago.

[riseagainst]

So in other words: Cleveland is going to lose.

[sportjames23]

So in other words: Cleveland is going to lose.


Pretty much.

[Akrazotile]

Such a terrible comparison.

Jordan was a great iso player. That was his strength. As long as his teammates rebounded and played D, he could take on a big scoring load.

Lebron's strength is setting up teammates. And because of his ability to get to the rim he does it better than any other player in the league. But these guys have to at least be able to knock down a few shots.

Dudes wanna clown on Lebron because he doesnt chuck a bunch of bad shots trying to be the hero. Guys with low IQ's thinkin basketball is all about "killer instinct" cliches, rather than finding the most practical approach to beating your opponents as a team.

Phil's obviously just trying to hype up MJ as usual, but it's pretty crappy analysis. They have different styles of play. He doesnt need to do what MJ did, he needs to do what he's capable of doing at a high level, and he needs his teammates to do what theyre supposed to do, at a high level. And even then, the Warriors are just better. Thats why Curry hasnt "taken over like MJ" either. It's a team game.

Phil just bein a cornball.

[Ai2death]

Such a terrible comparison.

Jordan was a great iso player. That was his strength. As long as his teammates rebounded and played D, he could take on a big scoring load.

Lebron's strength is setting up teammates. And because of his ability to get to the rim he does it better than any other player in the league. But these guys have to at least be able to knock down a few shots.

Dudes wanna clown on Lebron because he doesnt chuck a bunch of bad shots trying to be the hero. Guys with low IQ's thinkin basketball is all about "killer instinct" cliches, rather than finding the most practical approach to beating your opponents as a team.

Phil's obviously just trying to hype up MJ as usual, but it's pretty crappy analysis. They have different styles of play. He doesnt need to do what MJ did, he needs to do what he's capable of doing at a high level, and he needs his teammates to do what theyre supposed to do, at a high level. And even then, the Warriors are just better. Thats why Curry hasnt "taken over like MJ" either. It's a team game.

Phil just bein a cornball.

If you're such a wiz kid, why are you dribbling shit on ISH and not making millions coaching an NBA team to a title?

[bobopenguin]

If you're such a wiz kid, why are you dribbling shit on ISH and not making millions coaching an NBA team to a title?

he is just a typical bron stan, complains bron has no help, and it's all bron's teammates' faults, or coach's fault, or organiztion's fault, or opponent is stacked.

[Soundwave]

Such a terrible comparison.

Jordan was a great iso player. That was his strength. As long as his teammates rebounded and played D, he could take on a big scoring load.

Lebron's strength is setting up teammates. And because of his ability to get to the rim he does it better than any other player in the league. But these guys have to at least be able to knock down a few shots.

Dudes wanna clown on Lebron because he doesnt chuck a bunch of bad shots trying to be the hero. Guys with low IQ's thinkin basketball is all about "killer instinct" cliches, rather than finding the most practical approach to beating your opponents as a team.

Phil's obviously just trying to hype up MJ as usual, but it's pretty crappy analysis. They have different styles of play. He doesnt need to do what MJ did, he needs to do what he's capable of doing at a high level, and he needs his teammates to do what theyre supposed to do, at a high level. And even then, the Warriors are just better. Thats why Curry hasnt "taken over like MJ" either. It's a team game.

Phil just bein a cornball.

You need to be a great ISO player to be a great player nowadays.

Yes, people always point to the Lakers/Celtics of the 80s, but they actually did have great ISO players, Worthy and Kareem were fantastic scoring in isolation, and Bird could score 1-on-1 versus anyone.

You cannot win as a superstar if your basic tenant as a player is to kick the ball out to lesser players and hope that they win the game for you.

I also think the "LeBron gets to the rim better than anyone" is grossly overrated. He doesn't, the NBA is too good to dribble up the court, put your head down, and get to the rim *consistently* in the playoffs.

Yes, LeBron can do it 3-4 times a game and it looks spectacular when he does, but he also in playoff series where he melts down, you'll notice he also seems to get stripped/blocked trying that same move as many times if not moreso.

Bottom line is he's never developed a proper post game and his jumper is still wildly inconsistent.

[Asukal]

You need to be a great ISO player to be a great player nowadays.

Yes, people always point to the Lakers/Celtics of the 80s, but they actually did have great ISO players, Worthy and Kareem were fantastic scoring in isolation, and Bird could score 1-on-1 versus anyone.

You cannot win as a superstar if your basic tenant as a player is to kick the ball out to lesser players and hope that they win the game for you.

I also think the "LeBron gets to the rim better than anyone" is grossly overrated. He doesn't, the NBA is too good to dribble up the court, put your head down, and get to the rim *consistently* in the playoffs.

Yes, LeBron can do it 3-4 times a game and it looks spectacular when he does, but he also in playoff series where he melts down, you'll notice he also seems to get stripped/blocked trying that same move as many times if not moreso.

Bottom line is he's never developed a proper post game and his jumper is still wildly inconsistent.

All I saw was when he travelled or lost the ball with his bad handles or got stripped clean by Iggy. Leflop is vastly overrated. :hammerhead:

[pauk]

Jordan did that in Eastern Conference Finals (and Lebron did something similar aswell there).... according to the majority of ISH historians (like the OP and the 2 posters beneath him) that doesnt count.... winning/losing before Finals doesnt count, missing the playoffs is even more prestigious... sorry Phil...

[ripthekik]

Jordan did that in Eastern Conference Finals.... according to the majority of ISH historians (like the OP and the 2 posters beneath him) that doesnt count.... winning/losing there doesnt count... sorry Phil...
You didn't get the memo? East was good back then.. it was after Jordan retired when East went to shit..

[pauk]

On a more serious note, Jordan averaged 25-30 FGA or sometimes more, in the playoffs & especially Finals, that was his offensive mindset every single game.... Lebron played with that offensive mindset only when he really has to, like last Finals for example, hoisting shots going out guns blazing, but only because he was forced into with literally no other scoring target whatsover around, he just isnt that "unselfish" or excuse me "has that score-first mindset" to do that essentially every game.... right now he has help, he has Kyrie/Love (and even Jr Smith) who are completely underperforming, i dont think he will ever lose trust on them and thats what he will have to do to play more like Jordan... it will require for him to ignore his teammates alot to average 25-30 FGA this series... sure, it maybe could result in wins as Kyrie/Love/Smith could have underperformed again if he didnt go out guns blazing, but if he trusted them that game they could catch fire / play up to their standards instead, thats why its a gamble, every game is different........

For especially guys like Lebron/Bird, who are hybrids offensively between two very extremly opposite gamestyles (scoring & passing/facilitating) its a gamble every game, you just dont know exactly what your offensive mindset should have been / what you really should have done until the game is over..... like last 2 games for Lebron for example, he probably beats himself because he knew he could have instead tried to take over the game (the entire game) ignoring teammates knowing how they performed that game....

For Jordan that wasnt a problem at all, he had only ONE role & mindset offensively.... and he was the GOAT at it....

Point #1:
Lebron has a different game, namely the offensive mindset/style... an offensive mindset that is much more closer to Magic or even Bird... all he actually needs this Finals is for his teammates to simply give him some help, just the usual help, to just play up to their standards, which they have yet to do in the Finals... now that Love is injured (might miss game 3) makes things only worse, but it could give a better reason to "take over like Michael Jordan".

Point #2:
Jordan is the greatest scorer i have ever seen, by far... nobody can take over like Michael Jordan when it really matters... especially not a point-forward... well, not every single game....

[fourkicks44]

WOW Phil Jackson trolling hard....

[Smoke117]

lol Scottie Pippen 23 years ago in that 93 finals was way better than anyone Lebron has by far.

[GINOBILI!]

So in other words: Cleveland is going to lose.
Yep.

[3ball]

https://media.giphy.com/media/C26Vin6xxUWJ2/giphy.gif

[3ball]

You need to be a great ISO player to be a great player nowadays.

Yes, people always point to the Lakers/Celtics of the 80s, but they actually did have great ISO players, Worthy and Kareem were fantastic scoring in isolation, and Bird could score 1-on-1 versus anyone.

You cannot win as a superstar if your basic tenant as a player is to kick the ball out to lesser players and hope that they win the game for you.

I also think the "LeBron gets to the rim better than anyone" is grossly overrated. He doesn't, the NBA is too good to dribble up the court, put your head down, and get to the rim *consistently* in the playoffs.

Yes, LeBron can do it 3-4 times a game and it looks spectacular when he does, but he also in playoff series where he melts down, you'll notice he also seems to get stripped/blocked trying that same move as many times if not moreso.

Bottom line is he's never developed a proper post game and his jumper is still wildly inconsistent.


Agreed.

People don't realize that isolations require the most skill, because the player has to MAKE A MOVE, which often includes pulling up for contested jumpshots

Lebron doesn't have many moves, nor can he shoot... Nor does he have a post or off-ball game to mix it up and throw off the defense/give defense different looks.
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[bigkingsfan]

If only Lebron could swap Pippen for Love

[sd3035]

Agreed.

People don't realize that isolations require the most skill, because the player has to MAKE A MOVE, which often includes pulling up for contested jumpshots

Lebron doesn't have many moves, nor can he shoot... Nor does he have a post or off-ball game to mix up his game and throw off the defense/give defense different looks.

solid post :applause:

[3ball]

If only Lebron could swap Pippen for Love


If only Lebron could average 6 more PPG in the playoffs on better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg)... Can you imagine if Lebron averaged 6 more PPG on better efficiency... He'd be on a completely different level.

Jordan's massive scoring and efficiency edge is far more valuable and controls the game better than Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds), and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).
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[bigkingsfan]

If only Lebron could average 6 more PPG in the playoffs on better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg)... [I]Can you imagine if Lebron averaged 6 more PPG on better efficiency?... He'd be on a completely different level.

See Miami championship runs. :banana:

[3ball]

See Miami championship runs. :banana:


Lebron averaged 28 ppg in the playoffs during that 2-year run.. That's 5.5 less than Jordan's career average, and 7.0 less than Jordan's high during a championship run (1992 and 1993).

Sorry bud.

Btw, in order for ANY scorer to "take over" and score in bunches, that player needs a very good jumpshot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12435191&postcount=10).. period.. So Lebron is INCAPABLE of doing what Jordan did..

Heck, Lebron has many series and even entire playoff runs where he isn't his team's scoring leader, whereas Jordan led his team in scoring for every series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).. No all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their career, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.

[bigkingsfan]

Lebron averaged 28 ppg in the playoffs during that 2-year run.. That's 5.5 less than Jordan's career average, and 7.0 less than Jordan's high during a championship run (1992 and 1993).

Sorry bud.

Btw, in order for ANY scorer to "take over" and score in bunches, that player needs a very good jumpshot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12435191&postcount=10).. period.. So Lebron is INCAPABLE of doing what Jordan did..

Heck, Lebron has many series and even entire playoff runs where he isn't his team's scoring leader, whereas Jordan led his team in scoring for every series of his career, by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920).. No all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their career, let alone by 15 ppg like Jordan.
Lebron never been known for elite scoring, feel free to compare the rest of their #'s :banana:

[STATUTORY]

enough with the mindset excuse,

the truth of the matter is that Lebron is INCAPABLE of playing like Jordan from a skill and athleticism stand point.

Lebron is a garbage iso scorer, has a pedestrian first step and flat out poor two feet leaper. that means he's a very limited half court scorer, below average in fact.

So he can't take over games teh way Jordan or Kobe could. And the Warriors are playing exactly to that deficit right now, they are exposing him by covering his teammates and forcing him to beat them.

Lebron is left on an island in single COVERAGE all game long, if that was Jordan or Kobe being defended the same way they would drop 50+ on the warriors defense. But Lebron is a pathetic half court scorer, so he can't do it and his team is suffering as a result

[3ball]

Lebron never been known for elite scoring, feel free to compare the rest of their #'s :banana:


Jordan's massive scoring and efficiency edge (6 more ppg in playoffs on better TS, FG, ORtg)




is far more valuable and controls the game better than




Lebron's 2.5 defensive rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds), and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

[Dragonyeuw]

Remember when MJ had like 54 on mostly jumpshots against NYK in 93? Without the ability to generate high volume off mid-range shots, he's not going to 'take-over' like MJ did in those moments. That's what's needed with what Golden state is doing, and he can't do that.

[Da_Realist]

I just want to see Cleveland win A GAME. This is starting to look like Nets Lakers in 2002.

[jlip]

Are we truly using the '93 series against the Knicks as the example of "MJ pulling his team out of a hole?"

[Dragonyeuw]

Are we truly using the '93 series against the Knicks as the example of "MJ pulling his team out of a hole?"

MJ scored 51% of his team's points in a game that either ties the series, or puts them in a 3-1 hole with the Knicks having HCA. Pippen, Grant, and BJ were a combined 14 for 30 in the same game for 39 points....to MJ's 54.

What would you call it?

[90sgoat]

The main difference is that MJ could ALWAYS get a decent shot up by pulling up for a midrange or doing a fadeaway.

Lebron simply does not have a high percentage shot he can get every time. We've been saying this for years. It's not that Lebron doesn't want to or doesn't 'have that attitude', it's that he does not have a high percentage SHOT, he has a high percentage stiff arm, letravel move, but when that isn't going, what do you want him to do?

Use his non-existing post moves?

Shoot a sub 30% 3 point shot?

A very low percentage baseline fade?

In 2011 Dirk won the finals by basically being able to get a high percentage post shot every time.

Also, Magic was not a great shooter, but he had a high percentage go-to shot in the Baby Sky Hook. If he needed to get a score he could go to that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAMuXrTegSY

Look at that shot, the difficulty of such a hook shot, Lebron is simply not skilled enough. Try it out for yourself, see how difficult a running hook like that is to hit.

Here is MJ talking about the fadeaway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EcFQ7j4qo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTLSQqhFQ6M

Does Lebron have any move which he can talk about in such detail? MJ clearly understands every little detail about his go-to move, it is not some random occurence, what looks simple and basic is the result of MJ stripping away every unnecassary movement, perfecting the shot to it's only needed fundamentals. That's why MJ has that incredibly fast fluid movement, leaving players fumbling without dribbling even once.

Look at Kareems sky hook:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPcniUfKRlU

Kareem can do that shot blindfolded in his sleep. He's done it 10000s of times. Perfected it. He knows exactly how to do it, when his defender pushes left or right, when his defender jumps or goes body. Everything about it he knows instinctually.

What move has Lebron perfected in the iso setting?

Lebron's strongest move, the bully rush, requires a screen and so is dependant not only on himself but on another player. Much more difficult to train.

[Disaprine]

thats just mean phil. :lol

[jlip]

MJ scored 51% of his team's points in a game that either ties the series, or puts them in a 3-1 hole with the Knicks having HCA. Pippen, Grant, and BJ were a combined 14 for 30 in the same game for 39 points....to MJ's 54.

What would you call it?

Or Pippen led the team in the previous game preventing them from going down 0-3 by scoring 29 on 83% shooting while MJ scored 22 pts on 17% shooting. MJ came through in game 5, especially in the 2nd half, but every objective observer who saw the series and is not clouded by blind worship of MJ knows that Pippen came through offensively and closed out game 6 while MJ was struggling with his shot. But true to form, the cult of MJ acts like this comeback was all about the one dominating scoring game that MJ had. MJ is the only player in the history of all team sports that is not allowed by his fans to have quality help that every now and then actually carries the team when he isn't playing well. :facepalm

[Dragonyeuw]

Or Pippen led the team in the previous game preventing them from going down 0-3 by scoring 29 on 83% shooting while MJ scored 22 pts on 17% shooting. MJ came through in game 5, especially in the 2nd half, but every objective observer who saw the series and is not clouded by blind worship of MJ knows that Pippen came through offensively and closed out game 6 while MJ was struggling with his shot. But true to form, the cult of MJ acts like this comeback was all about the one dominating scoring game that MJ had. MJ is the only player in the history of all team sports that is not allowed by his fans to have quality help that every now and then actually carries the team when he isn't playing well. :facepalm

Whose to say the Bulls don't tie the series at 1-1 if not for Pippen scoring a paltry 17 in game 2? Kudos to him for outscoring MJ in one of the 6 games, I suppose. But considering they lost game 2 by 5 points, a little more offensive from the 2nd option may have avoided the game 3 situation you describe above. The worst knock against MJ that series was the efficiency, no doubt it was shit. But take away that scoring, and you get the 94 series result.

[Replay32]

I get tired of the comparisons to MJ. Lebron is no Michael Jordan. He's not as good. He's Lebron james and he needs to play better. He needs to stop being so passive. Last game they were giving him the mid range jump shot. He refused to take it and the Cavs end up getting a bad shot or turning the ball over because of it.

Dude needs to take open shots and just play the game. Stop over thinking things. He has a bad habit of doing this. IMO, a couple years of college would of helped him. It's just basketball and not rocket science. The entire cavs team needs to take the open shots when they get them and play faster. If they lose, so what. I bet they won't loose by 30 points though. They also need to stop switching unnecessarily and play their normal defense.

Steph and klay has got these dudes shook. It's sad to watch. :lol

[HylianNightmare]

If only he could

[pegasus]

I'm not sure if he'll be able to do that in Space Jam 2 even with the help of special effects, let alone in the NBA finals.

[IllegalD]

On a more serious note, Jordan averaged 25-30 FGA or sometimes more, in the playoffs & especially Finals, that was his offensive mindset every single game.... Lebron played with that offensive mindset only when he really has to, like last Finals for example, hoisting shots going out guns blazing, but only because he was forced into with literally no other scoring target whatsover around, he just isnt that "unselfish" or excuse me "has that score-first mindset" to do that essentially every game.... right now he has help, he has Kyrie/Love (and even Jr Smith) who are completely underperforming, i dont think he will ever lose trust on them and thats what he will have to do to play more like Jordan... it will require for him to ignore his teammates alot to average 25-30 FGA this series... sure, it maybe could result in wins as Kyrie/Love/Smith could have underperformed again if he didnt go out guns blazing, but if he trusted them that game they could catch fire / play up to their standards instead, thats why its a gamble, every game is different........

For especially guys like Lebron/Bird, who are hybrids offensively between two very extremly opposite gamestyles (scoring & passing/facilitating) its a gamble every game, you just dont know exactly what your offensive mindset should have been / what you really should have done until the game is over..... like last 2 games for Lebron for example, he probably beats himself because he knew he could have instead tried to take over the game (the entire game) ignoring teammates knowing how they performed that game....

For Jordan that wasnt a problem at all, he had only ONE role & mindset offensively.... and he was the GOAT at it....

Point #1:
Lebron has a different game, namely the offensive mindset/style... an offensive mindset that is much more closer to Magic or even Bird... all he actually needs this Finals is for his teammates to simply give him some help, just the usual help, to just play up to their standards, which they have yet to do in the Finals... now that Love is injured (might miss game 3) makes things only worse, but it could give a better reason to "take over like Michael Jordan".

Point #2:
Jordan is the greatest scorer i have ever seen, by far... nobody can take over like Michael Jordan when it really matters... especially not a point-forward... well, not every single game....

Damn. A whole thesis meltdown just to come to terms that LeBron can't take over games offensively like Jordan and Kobe can.

Funny how you're changing up your tune now all of a sudden after years of spewing the opposite... :roll:

[G0ATbe]

:lol They're doomed.

[Born Sinner]

Lebron is no mj. He sucks compared to mj

[Blue&Orange]

Such a terrible comparison.

Jordan was a great iso player. That was his strength. As long as his teammates rebounded and played D, he could take on a big scoring load.

Lebron's strength is setting up teammates. And because of his ability to get to the rim he does it better than any other player in the league. But these guys have to at least be able to knock down a few shots.

Dudes wanna clown on Lebron because he doesnt chuck a bunch of bad shots trying to be the hero. Guys with low IQ's thinkin basketball is all about "killer instinct" cliches, rather than finding the most practical approach to beating your opponents as a team.

Phil's obviously just trying to hype up MJ as usual, but it's pretty crappy analysis. They have different styles of play. He doesnt need to do what MJ did, he needs to do what he's capable of doing at a high level, and he needs his teammates to do what theyre supposed to do, at a high level. And even then, the Warriors are just better. Thats why Curry hasnt "taken over like MJ" either. It's a team game.

Phil just bein a cornball.
lol this sorry ass loser. Lebron can take over because he can't shoot, and he can't beat his man without traveling and without using the stiff arm. Passing the ball to some random guy standing behind the 3pt line is setting up shit.

Lebron brand of basketball is the one that turns hyped teams, favorite teams, historic team into crap teams.

Stacked team, Not 1, not 2, not 7, not 8, it's going to be easy, they are going to beat bulls record, turns into "he has horrible teammates".

Stacked team, $198 million payroll, cavs would have won if healthy, 16-0 playoff run, turns into "he has horrible teammates".



You should be grateful we are beyond natural selection.

[HighFlyer23]

MJ was a killer

Lebron can't even beat a prebupescent mulatto girl, despite being a 6'9" 265 lb athletic monster

[PP34Deuce]

I believe Phil was not comparing them but saying Lebron needs to realize his legacy rides on this.

Lebron coasts. Everyone knows he probes and coasts through a game. Mostly for cerebral purposes. Everyone is waiting for Lebron to become the intimidator instead of intimidated.

[smoovegittar]

enough with the mindset excuse,

the truth of the matter is that Lebron is INCAPABLE of playing like Jordan from a skill and athleticism stand point.

Lebron is a garbage iso scorer, has a pedestrian first step and flat out poor two feet leaper. that means he's a very limited half court scorer, below average in fact.

So he can't take over games teh way Jordan or Kobe could. And the Warriors are playing exactly to that deficit right now, they are exposing him by covering his teammates and forcing him to beat them.

Lebron is left on an island in single COVERAGE all game long, if that was Jordan or Kobe being defended the same way they would drop 50+ on the warriors defense. But Lebron is a pathetic half court scorer, so he can't do it and his team is suffering as a result

That's a wrap. :applause:

[stalkerforlife]

Jackson is trolling, as always.

He knows damn well Bran can't do that Jordan would do, and he's rubbing it in the faces of all the people who ever even mentioned them in the same breathe.

[diamenz]

I get tired of the comparisons to MJ. Lebron is no Michael Jordan. He's not as good. He's Lebron james and he needs to play better. He needs to stop being so passive. Last game they were giving him the mid range jump shot. He refused to take it and the Cavs end up getting a bad shot or turning the ball over because of it.

Dude needs to take open shots and just play the game. Stop over thinking things. He has a bad habit of doing this. IMO, a couple years of college would of helped him. It's just basketball and not rocket science. The entire cavs team needs to take the open shots when they get them and play faster. If they lose, so what. I bet they won't loose by 30 points though. They also need to stop switching unnecessarily and play their normal defense.

Steph and klay has got these dudes shook. It's sad to watch. :lol

great post. didn't realize there were still a few level headed peeps here.

[livinglegend]

WTF is Phil talking about?


1993 game 3 Knicks-Bulls: Here are Jordan's stats:


22 points on 3/18 shooting!

Pippen's stats:


29 points on 10/12 shooting!

He got bailed out by Pippen and his stacked team in that game 3.
Take over like Jordan :roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheMan]

WTF is Phil talking about?


1993 game 3 Knicks-Bulls: Here are Jordan's stats:


22 points on 3/18 shooting!

Pippen's stats:


29 points on 10/12 shooting!

He got bailed out by Pippen and his stacked team in that game 3.
Take over like Jordan :roll: :roll: :roll:
Hug and cuddle the 2/7 coming up, fggot:lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

So in other words: Cleveland is going to lose.

how savage can ish be :lol

[Bankaii]

He's right. And Lebron is perfectly capable of doing it, even without his jumper.

Kyrie is just chucking and the rest of the team just sucks.
I'd rather see him go down swinging.

[Smoke117]

MJ scored 51% of his team's points in a game that either ties the series, or puts them in a 3-1 hole with the Knicks having HCA. Pippen, Grant, and BJ were a combined 14 for 30 in the same game for 39 points....to MJ's 54.

What would you call it?

LMFAO...so what about game 3? When they were down 0-2 and Jordan was 3/18 for 22 points? Pippen had 29 on 12 shots. They would have been down 0-3 and done if not for Pippen.

[STATUTORY]

turned out Kyrie is the MJ of the team

Bran cheering on the bench :roll:

[bluechox2]

kyrie heard the message...

[Dragonyeuw]

LMFAO...so what about game 3? When they were down 0-2 and Jordan was 3/18 for 22 points? Pippen had 29 on 12 shots. They would have been down 0-3 and done if not for Pippen.

Quite true. But does that dismiss that MJs 54 ultimately swung the momentum over to Chicago's side for good? That was the pivot game. Considering how Pippen scored 14 on 4 of 14, the Bulls needed MJs 54 to avoid going down 3-1 heading back to New York.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Quite true. But does that dismiss that MJs 54 ultimately swung the momentum over to Chicago's side for good? That was the pivot game. Considering how Pippen scored 14 on 4 of 14, the Bulls needed MJs 54 to avoid going down 3-1 heading back to New York.
Smoke117 is a Pippen jocking, Jordan hater. You didn't get that memo, bro?

[livinglegend]

Quite true. But does that dismiss that MJs 54 ultimately swung the momentum over to Chicago's side for good? That was the pivot game. Considering how Pippen scored 14 on 4 of 14, the Bulls needed MJs 54 to avoid going down 3-1 heading back to New York.

Game 3 was more important. If they lose, they are down 0-3 and the series is basically over.
Ordan shot 3-18 and got carried by Pippen and the refs.
And Phil is acting like Jordan did something incredible in game 3 :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[TrueBlue89]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Lebron23]

And he played like Mike in the last 5 games in the NBA Finals.

[Nilocon165]

And he played like Mike in the last 5 games in the NBA Finals.
3. Game 4 was awful.

[riseagainst]

Amazing. Last 3 games of the series he played like a man possessed. I don't know if even MJ could have led his team from down 3-1.

[tmacattack33]

And he played like Mike in the last 5 games in the NBA Finals.

:biggums:

Mike would not have been the defensive paint presence that Lebron was, nor the rebounder, nor the playmaker.

[WadeBronDonJuan]

turned out Kyrie is the MJ of the team

Bran cheering on the bench :roll:

I love seeing moron haters like this guy after lebron literally takes over the series and will be remembered as one of the greatest finals performers of all time.

[warriorfan]

Looks like LeBron finally took over and called up the commish and got Draymond Suspended

[Nilocon165]

Looks like LeBron finally took over and called up the commish and got Draymond Suspended
0/22

:yaohappy: :hammertime: :djparty :dancin

[Keno]

Amazing. Last 3 games of the series he played like a man possessed. I don't know if even MJ could have led his team from down 3-1.

this. jordan would've lost in the ecf with this cavs team let's be real here.

[Just2McFly]

And he played like Mike in the last 5 games in the NBA Finals.
Nope. He played like Lebron.