Which players historically could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 other top 5 PER's

[3ball]

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What if David Robinson teamed up with Drexler and Shawn Kemp?

What if Isiah Thomas teamed up with Bird and McHale?

What if Karl Malone teamed up with Hakeem and Grant Hill?



This is why Lebron isn't top 10 all-time - MANY players in history could've done gone 2/4 by teaming up.
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[FreezingTsmoove]

Not to mention only winning 11 out of 23 finals games during 2/4 :facepalm :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

Somehow I feel like a team of Drob, Drexler, and Kemp would still lose provided you gave Hakeem someone else Drexler(slightly declined) level to play with in 95.

Maybe... Warriors Sprewell?

I just feel that combo would be destined to be an all time "WTF happened...." story.

And per is funny at times. Whiteside and Enes Kanter 7th and 10th this year. In 84 Dantley was #1...Kiki #3...Aguirre #4.

In one year Durant is second...Melo 4th...Brook Lopez 5th. I can see that team winning 54 games and losing in the first round to Memphis.

Every time I look at a list of advanced stat leaders I get annoyed. Not that any number is gonna give you accurate results when trying to judge a skill or a total player anyway. Just saying.

[3ball]

Just saying.


You guys all thought Lebron was the GOAT a few years ago - I'm guessing you have posts from 2013 or earlier where you said Lebron was GOAT - everyone was saying that back then, which is why I started posting.

But if Lebron was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to collude, nor would he be 2/7.

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 50 guys) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 guys who were top 5 in PER

[ShawkFactory]

You guys all thought Lebron was the GOAT a few years ago - I'm guessing you have posts from 2013 or earlier where you said Lebron was GOAT - everyone was saying that back then, which is why I started posting.

But if Lebron was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to collude, nor would he be 2/7.

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 50 guys) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 guys who were top 5 in PER
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[livinglegend]

You guys all thought Lebron was the GOAT a few years ago - I'm guessing you have posts from 2013 or earlier where you said Lebron was GOAT - everyone was saying that back then, which is why I started posting.

But if Lebron was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to collude, nor would he be 2/7.

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 50 guys) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 guys who were top 5 in PER

Prove it or STFU.

[3ball]

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he has posts saying Lebron was goat doesn't he??... i knew it - all you guys thought he was goat back then.

But if Lebron was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to team-up with 2 other top 5 guys, nor would he be 2/7

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 50 guys) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 other top 5 guys

[3ball]

Prove it or STFU.


I don't need to prove it - Lebron teamed up with 2 other guys who were top 5 in PER - that's already established.

if he was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to team-up, nor would he be 2/7.

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 100+ players historically) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 other top 5 guys

[ShawkFactory]

he has posts saying Lebron was goat doesn't he??... i knew it - all you guys thought he was goat back then.

But if Lebron was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to team-up with 2 other top 5 guys, nor would he be 2/7

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 50 guys) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 other top 5 guys
You're more paranoid and delusional than I previously believed.

[Kblaze8855]

You guys all thought Lebron was the GOAT a few years ago - I'm guessing you have posts from 2013 or earlier where you said Lebron was GOAT - everyone was saying that back then, which is why I started posting.

This is one of those things easier to say than to prove.

Forget GOAT. I dont believe you could turn up a post where I said Lebron was better than Bird or Magic. Or for that matter Hakeem. This is from 2013:



Just depends on if you mean basketball or resume. Lebron has a better resume already than most legends. Hes gonna blow Hakeems away.

Id still rather have Hakeem on my team. All the rest is pretty whatever to me in situations like this where I have seen the entire career of both sides. Im not guessing like I am with some older players.

I know what Hakeem could do...and Lebron. Not taking Lebron. Its not like....5 levels apart. But its not something id have to look at the team first either.

Id take Hakeem every time. Too disruptive on defense with the right mix of skill and aggression on offense.

If Lebron more often played the way hes capable of id take him. Id take out to prove a point Lebron over Hakeem. I wouldnt take average Lebron though.



Most of ISH has hated Lebron since he was in high school. I was here when his HS games were on ESPN and we were arguing over Eddy Curry and Stackhouse saying he was NBA ready and Bill Walton saying he was ready to start on all 30 teams. People were saying Lebron was the next Darius Miles.

He had people hating on his first game....he had people hating in the summer league before his first season. He had people hating as he held up the trophy and finals MVP.

Lebron has never been more loved/repped here than hated. The idea that most of ISH had him as better than Jordan is just factually incorrect. Im not sure ive seen anyone I took serious say it on here.

I think even Pauk was saying like....#3 back then.

The list of people to make an honest argument he was better than Jordan? Short. If it exists at all. It was a troll argument then and now.

[livinglegend]

I don't need to prove it - Lebron teamed up with 2 other guys who were top 5 in PER - that's already established.

if he was as great as you guys all thought he was, he wouldn't need to team-up, nor would he be 2/7.

The truth is that MANY players (maybe like 100+ players historically) could go 2/4 if they teamed up with 2 other top 5 guys

That's what I thought, STFU.


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[stalkerforlife]

I have Karl Malone higher on my all time list than Bran because I feel he'd have easily won two rings or more had he gone title chasing in his prime.

And there's many others that never won a title that have a very, very strong case over Bran because of his title chasing and colluding. Such as Barkley or Wilkins. Etc. etc. etc.

[SouBeachTalents]

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What if David Robinson teamed up with Drexler and Shawn Kemp?

What if Isiah Thomas teamed up with Bird and McHale?

What if Karl Malone teamed up with Hakeem and Grant Hill?



This is why Lebron isn't top 10 all-time - MANY players in history could've done gone 2/4 by teaming up.
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Bosh was never as good as any of the players you listed

[3ball]

Bosh was never as good as any of the players you listed


Relative to his competition, he was far BETTER

Bosh is a 10-time all-star, which is more than anyone on that list - being an all-star means he was voted a top 3 player at his position in his conference.. No one on that list was considered a top 3 player in their conference 10 times..

It isn't his fault that Lebron's presence cratered his stats, like he does to all talented big men - but Bosh still showed his 10-time all-star pedigree and versatility by becoming a 40% three-point floor-spreader for Lebron-ball... Very impressive for a traditional high post big man that was used to operating primarily from the triple-threat position.

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[ShawkFactory]

Relative to his competition, he was far BETTER

Bosh is a 10-time all-star, which is more than anyone on that list - being an all-star means he was voted a top 3 player at his position in his conference.. No one on that list was considered a top 3 player in their conference 10 times..

It isn't his fault that Lebron's presence cratered his stats, like he does to all talented big men - but Bosh still showed his 10-time all-star pedigree and versatility by becoming a 40% three-point floor-spreader for Lebron-ball... Very impressive for a traditional high post big man that was used to operating primarily from the triple-threat position.
Wade's too

[bigkingsfan]

3ball whining

[G0ATbe]

Pretty much any all star, and most would do better than 1.5*/4

[Hey Yo]

Relative to his competition, he was far BETTER

Bosh is a 10-time all-star, which is more than anyone on that list - being an all-star means he was voted a top 3 player at his position in his conference.. No one on that list was considered a top 3 player in their conference 10 times..

It isn't his fault that Lebron's presence cratered his stats, like he does to all talented big men - but Bosh still showed his 10-time all-star pedigree and versatility by becoming a 40% three-point floor-spreader for Lebron-ball... Very impressive for a traditional high post big man that was used to operating primarily from the triple-threat position.
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[GrapeApe]

When are people going to understand that you can't put 3 first options on a team and expect them all to play like they did as first options? You could create a team with the 5 best players in the league and 2 of them will essentially be role players. There's only one basketball and there's only so much production to go around. A great first option might not be a good second or third option. You can't just throw talent together and assume it will make an optimal team.

[Smoke117]

Curry > MJ

[tmacattack33]

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What if David Robinson teamed up with Drexler and Shawn Kemp?

What if Isiah Thomas teamed up with Bird and McHale?

What if Karl Malone teamed up with Hakeem and Grant Hill?



This is why Lebron isn't top 10 all-time - MANY players in history could've done gone 2/4 by teaming up.
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Lebron did not have Bosh in 2012 for Rounds 2 and 3, and he obviously wasn't near 100% in the Finals.

Lebron did not have Love for 3 Rounds in 2016 and Irving for the Finals and half the ECF.

So your whole premise is wrong.

So, the real question is who could have still lead those depleted teams to the Finals, and won one of those Finals? Maybe MJ. And that's about it.

[Round Mound]

Was Bosh Really Top 5 in PER When Lebron Joined The Heat? I Know For Sure Pippen Was Top 4 in PER: The Season MJ Left :confusedshrug:

[GrapeApe]

Was Bosh Really Top 5 in PER When Lebron Joined The Heat? I Know For Sure Pippen Was Top 4 in PER: The Season MJ Left :confusedshrug:

I think Bosh was 4th, but that was obviously as a first option. What 3ball isn't grasping is that being a highly productive first option doesn't make someone a good third option. For example, there are many players I'd rather have as a first option than Draymond Green but few if any I'd rather have as a third option.

[Hey Yo]

Was Bosh Really Top 5 in PER When Lebron Joined The Heat? I Know For Sure Pippen Was Top 4 in PER: The Season MJ Left :confusedshrug:
The first time MJ quit, Pippin's scoring avg and rebounding avg. were the highest of his career. Plus made 1st team all-NBA for the first time in his career.

Horace Grant also had his highest PPG, TRB and asissts avg of his career. Plus that year was the only time he made the all-star team in his career.

BJ Armstrong avg. the highest ppg for his career and made the all-star team for the first and only time in his career w/o MJ.

Clearly these guys were getting held back by MJ. By them only winning 2 less games the year before with MJ makes it look even more factual.

[HighFlyer23]

Lebron is easily top 10 and a top 5 talent