LeBron is CLEARLY still the best player in the world

[Fudge]

Most valuable and the best player in the league.

Styll.

[Mr. Jabbar]

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[TheOne]

Yes if he get his mental problem cured

[Im Still Ballin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srH94OR1TbU

WOOP WOOP!!!!

:hammertime: :hammertime: :dancin :djparty

[Fudge]

:bowdown:

[InsanityKills]

Never a doubt in my mind.:pimp:

:djparty

[Fudge]

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[100grandman]

King James baby

[bigkingsfan]

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[Im Still Ballin]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Fudge]

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big show = lebron fam

ric flair = kobe stans


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[KyleKong]

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:roll: :applause:

[Im Still Ballin]

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big show = lebron fam

ric flair = kobe stans


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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[Xiengqichess]

So no excuses when he lose the final, right!?
He got a point guard playing better than other team best player!

[InsanityKills]

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[Fudge]

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[InsanityKills]

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[Im Still Ballin]

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[Keno]

goat.

[livingby3's]

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big show = lebron fam

ric flair = kobe stans


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

so just taking a beating?

[InsanityKills]

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[HenryGarfunkle]

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Wooooooo!

[Fudge]

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[3LiftHeatCurse]

Stephen Curry is the best in the league.

[GrapeApe]

There is no clear cut best player. Curry has been disappointing in the finals, Lebron has been up and down, and Durant and Westbrook choked away The WCF.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

There is no clear cut best player. Curry has been disappointing in the finals, Lebron has been up and down, and Durant and Westbrook choked away The WCF.

It's not that Curry has been disappointing

It's that James and the Cavaliers are determined to make Curry ineffective, even if it means role players on GS start burning them

Curry has so far embraced the role, and has made himself a decoy instead of forcing up shots.

[theaussieguy]

It's not that Curry has been disappointing

It's that James and the Cavaliers are determined to make Curry ineffective, even if it means role players on GS start burning them

Curry has so far embraced the role, and has made himself a decoy instead of forcing up shots.

this, he just needs to be on the floor to be the greatest player in the world. It is that simple and non arguable. Lebron ball only gets you so far, 2/7 is testament to that.

Lebron james is the most versatile player in the league, but the definition of 'best' is a pretty simple one but idiots seem to have a hard time to grasp it. The best player in the world is a player whos talents, with peak optimization, result in the most championships. Lebron has been in a peak optimization of his 'talents' the last 10 years and has come up short more times than not. Curry has been in peak optimization the last 2 years, and will end up with a 100% winning record.

[Fudge]

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Naw'm saiyan?

[LBJMVP]

It's not that Curry has been disappointing

It's that James and the Cavaliers are determined to make Curry ineffective, even if it means role players on GS start burning them

Curry has so far embraced the role, and has made himself a decoy instead of forcing up shots.

Steph is an amazing player but don't spout this bullshit. No other MVP in history has played so bad. He is playing worse than 2011 Lebron. He had 2 first have pints and scored the other 17 when th game was well out of reach.

He is not embracing the rolle, he is playing like shit. I expect him to come back at any moment, but he is playing terrible right now. Not embracing the role.

[Akrazotile]

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big show = lebron fam

ric flair = kobe stans


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


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[Big_Dogg]

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Naw'm saiyan?

That is awesome

[coin24]

Only when his team already has the lead..
He's a great front runner

[Quickening]

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[Akrazotile]

Only when his team already has the lead..
He's a great front runner



The had the lead all game. Score was like 26-8 after 10 minutes.

[Fudge]

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:roll:

[FKAri]

It's not that Curry has been disappointing

It's that James and the Cavaliers are determined to make Curry ineffective, even if it means role players on GS start burning them

Curry has so far embraced the role, and has made himself a decoy instead of forcing up shots.
This excuse only flies in games 1 and 2.

For every superstar in the history of the game the other team will try to put the clamps on them and make the "role players" beat them. The difference is GSW's "role players" are the 2nd best SG, a top 5 PF, a FMVP, a 6MOTY candidate, and a former all NBA-teamer.


Only when his team already has the lead..
He's a great front runner
Curry and Bron are both front runners. Curry stops playing loose and aggressive when shit hits the fan. Klay was the one who kept firing in g6 vs OKC.

PS Curry's still better than Lebron

[D. Toretto]

Last couple weeks it was Durant for Simon. OP is a fakkit

[J Shuttlesworth]

Curry and Bron are both front runners. Curry stops playing loose and aggressive when shit hits the fan. Klay was the one who kept firing in g6 vs OKC.

PS Curry's still better than Lebron
LeBron on the road down 3-2 - gets 45/15 against Boston
Curry - gets rescued by Klay

[k0kakw0rld]

So no excuses when he lose the final, right!?
He got a point guard playing better than other team best player!
Started to play better only in game , next...

[k0kakw0rld]

Only when his team already has the lead..
He's a great front runner
Look who's talking, your Gawd gt carried to 3 ships, he is a front runner.

Gaso, MEtta World Peace saved his leagacy plenty of times. :oldlol:

[Kingwillball]

This excuse only flies in games 1 and 2.

For every superstar in the history of the game the other team will try to put the clamps on them and make the "role players" beat them. The difference is GSW's "role players" are the 2nd best SG, a top 5 PF, a FMVP, a 6MOTY candidate, and a former all NBA-teamer.


Curry and Bron are both front runners. Curry stops playing loose and aggressive when shit hits the fan. Klay was the one who kept firing in g6 vs OKC.

PS Curry's still better than Lebron

When was Curry ever better it's not even close and lebron at peak of powers from few years ago would sh!t down Currys throat an insult to compare the two at the same age.

[ArbitraryWater]

How exactly does Curry get the 'BITW' label these last two years when, when it comes down to it, to the biggest stage and the NBA finals, LeBron is still clearly the more adjusted and ready player, thouroughly outplaying him, and its obvious to everyone going in?

As good as the regular season may be, how, with that being the case, can you call yourself best player?

LeBron and Curry over the past two years have met in 9 finals matchups, LeBron has won 8 of them...

He's still the best player in the world on the basis of what he does and can do in the finals. Curry isn't remotely close to him when it comes to that stage. It's actually baffling how much more LeBron has to do, for his team to have a shot. Curry can struggle his ass off and win in blowouts.

[Dr Hawk]

6/6
5/7

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[r15mohd]

Only when his team already has the lead..
He's a great front runner


you do know Lebron was 4-4 in the 1st qtr right - he helped build that lead dumb dumb :hammerhead:

[Gileraracer]

Lebron is one of the worst shooters ever, gtfo with him being the best player in the world. What a joke

[Dresta]

How exactly does Curry get the 'BITW' label these last two years when, when it comes down to it, to the biggest stage and the NBA finals, LeBron is still clearly the more adjusted and ready player, thouroughly outplaying him, and its obvious to everyone going in?

As good as the regular season may be, how, with that being the case, can you call yourself best player?

LeBron and Curry over the past two years have met in 9 finals matchups, LeBron has won 8 of them...

He's still the best player in the world on the basis of what he does and can do in the finals. Curry isn't remotely close to him when it comes to that stage. It's actually baffling how much more LeBron has to do, for his team to have a shot. Curry can struggle his ass off and win in blowouts.And yet Lebron is getting outplayed by Draymond Green, and in his only win, was outplayed Kyrie. Hardly BITW stuff there.

[theaussieguy]

How exactly does Curry get the 'BITW' label these last two years when, when it comes down to it, to the biggest stage and the NBA finals, LeBron is still clearly the more adjusted and ready player, thouroughly outplaying him, and its obvious to everyone going in?

As good as the regular season may be, how, with that being the case, can you call yourself best player?

LeBron and Curry over the past two years have met in 9 finals matchups, LeBron has won 8 of them...

He's still the best player in the world on the basis of what he does and can do in the finals. Curry isn't remotely close to him when it comes to that stage. It's actually baffling how much more LeBron has to do, for his team to have a shot. Curry can struggle his ass off and win in blowouts.

u clearly don't understand the fundamentals of basketball. Steph is such a huge threat from anywhere on the floor he commands 3 men on him, this leaves other players open, who score. Pretty simple, and thats why his team will win. This is basketball 101 dude.

[ArbitraryWater]

And yet Lebron is getting outplayed by Draymond Green, and in his only win, was outplayed Kyrie. Hardly BITW stuff there.

Lebron is leading both teams in points, rebounds and assists :oldlol: while shooting 47% (more than Green lol) :oldlol:

LeBron with a higher game score, +/-, eFG% and superior raw stats across the board than Kyrie minus 2 assists...


So both of your statements are factually wrong :ohwell:

Try again. Maybe once LeBron will actually play really, really bad, and actually be outplayed, so you can also be right. Because it sure as hell doesnt matter if he is the best in the series, you won't acknowledge it either way. Strong character weakness.

[Hey Yo]

And yet Lebron is getting outplayed by Draymond Green, and in his only win, was outplayed Kyrie. Hardly BITW stuff there.
:oldlol: .......LeBron completely shit on Drayfag last night.

You would have seen it if you weren't giving Wade a rusty trombone.

[SwayDizzle]

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Naw'm saiyan?
sick gif.
lebron at the moment is the best, but the whole season long it was Curry. curry is playing like sh*t the past couple series. don't really know what's up with him, it seems mental.

this reminds me of the Kobe/lebron days. only the roles for lebron are now reversed.

[GINOBILI!]

sick gif.
lebron at the moment is the best

Just to be clear, "at the moment" means 1 game, right?

[Goldrush25]

Lebron is one of the worst shooters ever, gtfo with him being the best player in the world. What a joke

Well it definitely isn't Steph. Worse performance through 3 games by the reigning league MVP in NBA history.:oldlol:

[SwayDizzle]

Just to be clear, "at the moment" means 1 game, right?
i'd say for the majority of the playoffs, Steph hasn't been in top form. after the injury he wasn't the same. and i'm not saying he is injured now, because i believe he recovered physically but it's more a mental aftereffect that is taking over.

[Gileraracer]

Well it definitely isn't Steph. Worse performance through 3 games by the reigning league MVP in NBA history.:oldlol:

That's right

[Dresta]

Lebron is leading both teams in points, rebounds and assists :oldlol: while shooting 47% (more than Green lol) :oldlol:

LeBron with a higher game score, +/-, eFG% and superior raw stats across the board than Kyrie minus 2 assists...


So both of your statements are factually wrong :ohwell:

Try again. Maybe once LeBron will actually play really, really bad, and actually be outplayed, so you can also be right. Because it sure as hell doesnt matter if he is the best in the series, you won't acknowledge it either way. Strong character weakness.
If you're going to parrot stats at me (completely irrelevant stats at that) at least try to not be selective about it. Green has been more efficient than Lebron (58TS% to 55TS%), and most of Lebron's numbers have come at unimportant moments of the game, with his team cruising. And let's see, last game: JR Smith +33 (163 ORTG, 93 DRTG), James +24 (115 ORTG, DRTG 92), Kyrie + 24 (ORTG 135, DRTG, 99), TT (ORTG 193, DRTG 99--the guy cleaning up all Lebron's bricks btw). Kyrie also had two more assists and 3 less turnovers than Lebron.

You can say "Lebron is leading both teams in blah, blah, blah , but he's played shitty, and you ignore the stats that suggest this. For instance, Green has 19 assists for the series, with only 6 turnovers; Lebron has 24 assists, but also [I]16 turnovers. Do have any idea how much tunring it over that often against Golden State kills your team? Evidently not... And behaving like he's a better rebounder than TT is hilarious. TT has 16 offensive boards to Lebron's 6. Golden State aren't even trying to crash the offensive boards, and Lebron is statpadding defensive boards like he usually does.

So you're lying/ distorting reality regardless. Lebron was arguably the 4th best/ most important player on the Cavs in game 3.

Anyway, aggregate stats in a playoff series are irrelevant. It's when you score, when you have the big games, and how well you play in each individual game. Aggregated stats can have little relevance to actual games and performances. You can't add up a bunch of accumulated stats from abysmal Lebron performances, when he got blown out, and statpadded like a loser, and pretend that makes his overall performance the best. He's been outplayed by Draymond Green over 3 games: that is undeniable to anyone that isn't a fanatical Lebron James fan and who has watched this series (you know, aside from boxscore watching over in Germany).

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron is not the best player in the world.

Right now, I can't give it to anyone. Curry was in the regular season but his playoffs have been lack luster. Westbrook and Durant have so many mental errors.

There's no clear cut number 1 player. I honestly feel 1-2-3 is interchangeable right now.

I believe Lebron is top 3, but I can't give him number 1.

[Dresta]

:oldlol: .......LeBron completely shit on Drayfag last night.

You would have seen it if you weren't giving Wade a rusty trombone.
Lebron has been getting shat on and embarrassing himself all series (how many torpedoes is he gonna rocket off the backboard exactly?), and last night got bailed out by his teammates playing an exceptional all-around game. If they hadn't, Lebron would be 3-0 down by now. Stop being such an ungrateful piece of shit.

[Kingwillball]

Lebron has been getting shat on and embarrassing himself all series (how many torpedoes is he gonna rocket off the backboard exactly?), and last night got bailed out by his teammates playing an exceptional all-around game. If they hadn't, Lebron would be 3-0 down by now. Stop being such an ungrateful piece of shit.

Wake up and Lebron is about to take over this series he is just getting going..

[Kingwillball]

Lebron is not the best player in the world.

Right now, I can't give it to anyone. Curry was in the regular season but his playoffs have been lack luster. Westbrook and Durant have so many mental errors.

There's no clear cut number 1 player. I honestly feel 1-2-3 is interchangeable right now.

I believe Lebron is top 3, but I can't give him number 1.

He is the best all around and when his offensive game is on he is clearly the best still. No other player has to do what lebron doese. I mean even Curry the UMVP can be role player and warriors win handily. U never see lebron have that little impact and his team wins by 20-30 points.

[LikeABosh]

Thick

[PP34Deuce]

He is the best all around and when his offensive game is on he is clearly the best still. No other player has to do what lebron doese. I mean even Curry the UMVP can be role player and warriors win handily. U never see lebron have that little impact and his team wins by 20-30 points.

I just think best player has gotten tougher because at this stage, everyone has a gap that is making it tough for them to take the reigns.

Curry is Randy Moss. Loses interest and is 50-50 to check out plays mentally.
Lebron is Peyton Manning. He dominates and then over thinks situations and has mini melt downs.
Westbrook is like Adrian Peterson- Continually attacks, fumbles the ball and can cost you a game as much as a win.
Durant is like ____ He should be the number one, but he's regressed in skill.

Personally all these guys have so many business obligations, I don't believe they work on their basketball skills as much as others. Curry I believe it, and Westbrook also. Lebron works on his body and endurance, but you can't tell me he shoots 1000 jumpers even 2 times a week.

[STATUTORY]

And yet Lebron is getting outplayed by Draymond Green, and in his only win, was outplayed Kyrie. Hardly BITW stuff there.
Exactly, let's not discount that
Kyrie set the tone for the game with the early explosion in the 1st quarter

Cavs lose if Kyrie doesn't just go off that quarter

Once Kyrie gave Lebron a healthy league, Bran was able be the front runner he was raised to be

[tmacattack33]

And yet Lebron is getting outplayed by Draymond Green, and in his only win, was outplayed Kyrie. Hardly BITW stuff there.

:roll:




Something so ridiculous would be okay for a guy on the street to say, but you took to the time to make a username and post on a basketball forum, yet you still say something as stupid as this....:facepalm








:lol

[chazzy]

It's disappointing Curry's faded lately because he was having a historic year. And the thing is, outside of the 2nd half of yesterday, Lebron wasn't playing well either. But if this trend continues this will be one of the weaker best players in the game in a while

[chazzy]

He's still the best player in the world on the basis of what he does and can do in the finals.
You swear like he hasn't been playing very pedestrian the first two and a half games. He couldn't make a basket in any type of isolation set to save his life and was careless with the ball, getting stripped left and right. He's only back in the best player in the game conversation on the basis of how bad Steph has been in these finals, not how good he has

[GrapeApe]

I always see a lot of people say "nobody has to do what Lebron does", or other things to that effect. People have been saying this for his entire career. Hasn't it ever occured to them that HE might he the reason for that?

[Young X]

:roll:




Something so ridiculous would be okay for a guy on the street to say, but you took to the time to make a username and post on a basketball forum, yet you still say something as stupid as this....:facepalm








:lolDraymond outplayed him in the first 2 games...not that ridiculous.

As far as the best player, it's Curry or James and then everybody else as far as I'm concerned.

[ArbitraryWater]

I always see a lot of people say "nobody has to do what Lebron does", or other things to that effect. People have been saying this for his entire career. Hasn't it ever occured to them that HE might he the reason for that?

when a Heat fan tries to disrespect LeBron (fail)


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You could just never see Curry wet the bed like this, a few weeks ago.. dont know why it happened.

He had a great following and is immensely popular and has everything going for him with the GOAT support on his team. Not sure to the reason for such melting down mentally when there is so little resistance put on him.

[ArbitraryWater]

If you're going to parrot stats at me (completely irrelevant stats at that) at least try to not be selective about it. Green has been more efficient than Lebron (58TS% to 55TS%), and most of Lebron's numbers have come at unimportant moments of the game, with his team cruising. And let's see, last game: JR Smith +33 (163 ORTG, 93 DRTG), James +24 (115 ORTG, DRTG 92), Kyrie + 24 (ORTG 135, DRTG, 99), TT (ORTG 193, DRTG 99--the guy cleaning up all Lebron's bricks btw). Kyrie also had two more assists and 3 less turnovers than Lebron.

You can say "Lebron is leading both teams in blah, blah, blah , but he's played shitty, and you ignore the stats that suggest this. For instance, Green has 19 assists for the series, with only 6 turnovers; Lebron has 24 assists, but also [I]16 turnovers. Do have any idea how much tunring it over that often against Golden State kills your team? Evidently not... And behaving like he's a better rebounder than TT is hilarious. TT has 16 offensive boards to Lebron's 6. Golden State aren't even trying to crash the offensive boards, and Lebron is statpadding defensive boards like he usually does.

So you're lying/ distorting reality regardless. Lebron was arguably the 4th best/ most important player on the Cavs in game 3.

Anyway, aggregate stats in a playoff series are irrelevant. It's when you score, when you have the big games, and how well you play in each individual game. Aggregated stats can have little relevance to actual games and performances. You can't add up a bunch of accumulated stats from abysmal Lebron performances, when he got blown out, and statpadded like a loser, and pretend that makes his overall performance the best. He's been outplayed by Draymond Green over 3 games: that is undeniable to anyone that isn't a fanatical Lebron James fan and who has watched this series (you know, aside from boxscore watching over in Germany).


LeBron was not arguably the 4th most important player on the team last game... thats in your head dude.

Right, leading the series in points/rebounds/assists is TOTALLY arbitrary..

what you're doing is insanely easy, you try to find a guy here or there that outplayed him, nobody will be the best on their team every game... this is BITW talk and you post about him getting good contributions.... no, really?! About time, no? If this was Wade you'd cry about the massive lack of support so far.... through 2 games he had one guy show up: Richard Jefferson.... apparently the massive difference in performance between him and say, Irving, doesnt count anymore, then?

Go ahead and pull up the unimportant moments of the game for me.... he hasnt scored at any time when Kyrie wasnt last game, lol. Or Curry, who's scored at later points than he did.

You still believe he has 'stat padded like a loser', there is no convincing you, LeBron's presence is too deeply set in your mind for you to ever reach a neutral state of thinking when it comes to him. He owns you.

Draymond Green just had a 6-point game on 2-8 shooting while getting shitted on defensively, while LeBron went for 30+ on a nigh triple double, and you believe Green has outplayed him through 3 games, and that its undeniable... the difference last game is night and day, imagine if it was the other way around... you'd blow up.

The ad hominem at the end :oldlol: Oh Dresta you still haven't learned have you.

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when a Heat fan tries to disrespect LeBron (fail)


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You could just never see Curry wet the bed like this, a few weeks ago.. dont know why it happened.

He had a great following and is immensely popular and has everything going for him with the GOAT support on his team. Not sure to the reason for such melting down mentally when there is so little resistance put on him.

I like Lebron and I'm not a fan of Curry. I'm sick of GS's arrogance and I'd like to see them get knocked down a peg. Regarding the comment I made, I've been saying that for years. Lebron's style is not conducive to optimal balance. Part of it is coaching related and more of a systematic flaw, but part of it is Lebron himself. In some ways he's too good for his own good.