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FireDavidKahn
06-09-2016, 01:30 AM
Sam Amico ‏@AmicoHoops 2h2 hours ago
LeBron repeatedly yelled to "get ball to who he's guarding" while looking in Curry's direction. One time #Cavs did & JR hit 3. LeBron nodded

LeAlpha comes out swinging:applause:

HenryGarfunkle
06-09-2016, 01:35 AM
LeBron is killing Curry the way MJ used to kill guys. Psychologically and physically destroying him. This is really really great to watch. For guys who like power, size, athleticism, ferocity, and individual dominance... watching LeBron is a very special treat. :applause:

Curry doesn't belong out there with the King. Just nor fair.

FireDavidKahn
06-09-2016, 01:37 AM
LeBron is killing Curry the way MJ used to kill guys. Psychologically and physically destroying him. This is really really great to watch. For guys who like power, size, athleticism, ferocity, and individual dominance... watching LeBron is a very special treat. :applause:

Curry doesn't belong out there with the King. Just nor fair.
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moongaze
06-09-2016, 01:48 AM
Kyrie had curry looking like he was on skates several times. Njust flat out embarrassing ball. Curry's defense consists of hacking on every drive

FireDavidKahn
06-09-2016, 03:50 PM
Kyrie had curry looking like he was on skates several times. Njust flat out embarrassing ball. Curry's defense consists of hacking on every drive
Yep

ArbitraryWater
06-09-2016, 03:53 PM
LeBron is killing Curry the way MJ used to kill guys. Psychologically and physically destroying him. This is really really great to watch. For guys who like power, size, athleticism, ferocity, and individual dominance... watching LeBron is a very special treat. :applause:

Curry doesn't belong out there with the King. Just nor fair.

Thats that killer instinct nobody seems to be able to give us besides Bron bron.. Shaq was the last one to be able to step up on demand since MJ.

miggyme1
06-09-2016, 03:56 PM
LeAlpha comes out swinging:applause:


lol its funny how guys grow balls when they play in front of their home crowd. lol



LeBron looked like sheep sh$t in shallow water when he was in the bay

Goldrush25
06-09-2016, 05:22 PM
I don't know why it took the league this long to stop letting that little shite hide on defense.

Sarcastic
06-09-2016, 05:31 PM
But he led the league in steals. :confusedshrug:

KungFuJoe
06-09-2016, 05:33 PM
Curry's defense was actually really bad last game. And I don't think he's a bad defender...but he couldn't keep track of his man at all. I think Kerr benched him momentarily because of this, and not necessarily because of his sloppy play on O.

hold this L
06-09-2016, 05:50 PM
Curry's defense was actually really bad last game. And I don't think he's a bad defender...but he couldn't keep track of his man at all. I think Kerr benched him momentarily because of this, and not necessarily because of his sloppy play on O.
I think he benched him because he was terrible in defense and offense. I heard he asked if he was ok once he brought him to the bench before putting him back on a few minutes later. Don't know what's happening with him to be honest.

RedBlackAttack
06-09-2016, 06:08 PM
I think he benched him because he was terrible in defense and offense. I heard he asked if he was ok once he brought him to the bench before putting him back on a few minutes later. Don't know what's happening with him to be honest.
I think there comes a point where the defense has to get a little credit. There's a huge difference between regular season basketball and what you see in the post-season.

Before the Cavs were completely exhausted playing a 6-man rotation, Curry was incredibly underwhelming in last year's Finals. At this same point last year, after Game 3, Curry was averaging 24 points on 39/32/92 splits and was averaging over 5 turnovers a game.

It's not like he was sucking at the end of the OKC series either and that has carried over. He had three straight 30+ point games to close them out.

It could be that the Cavs, when given time to game-plan for Curry (ie the playoffs), put together a really challenging look that takes him out of rhythm.

It could still be a long series and I expect he'll have his moments before it is over, but it isn't just about "what's wrong with Steph." This is now a trend of him struggling to get a rhythm in the playoffs against this team.

hold this L
06-09-2016, 08:17 PM
I think there comes a point where the defense has to get a little credit. There's a huge difference between regular season basketball and what you see in the post-season.

Before the Cavs were completely exhausted playing a 6-man rotation, Curry was incredibly underwhelming in last year's Finals. At this same point last year, after Game 3, Curry was averaging 24 points on 39/32/92 splits and was averaging over 5 turnovers a game.

It's not like he was sucking at the end of the OKC series either and that has carried over. He had three straight 30+ point games to close them out.

It could be that the Cavs, when given time to game-plan for Curry (ie the playoffs), put together a really challenging look that takes him out of rhythm.

It could still be a long series and I expect he'll have his moments before it is over, but it isn't just about "what's wrong with Steph." This is now a trend of him struggling to get a rhythm in the playoffs against this team.
I do give the Cav defense credit, they're trapping Curry and even doubling teaming Klay who looks confused when it happens at times to let everyone do the dirty work. I still think they have gotten open looks. There is an aspect of Curry that is greatly underrated and that is off the ball movement. That looks off, as does his quick dribble when he gets away from players. I don't know if it's injury, if he hasn't gotten into rhythm, or mental, I'm not a doctor and don't know his body. But I think at his top shape, he would be able to do more than he has so far. He was 7/11 in game 2 where IMO he was playing real well other than dumbass fouls he received and had to be rested once the game out of reach.

I'm not going to lie though, last game he pissed me off. Even though he was missing easy shots and looking like a scrub when shooting in game 1, he was always active and on point. He took Kyrie's soul that game and was extremely aggressive, his shots were just not going in. Yesterday it was like he was out with his family strolling on by, walking around the park, instead of playing in a fking final. :facepalm That is inexcusable. He needs to get it together because he owes his team two great performances on Friday and Monday(?). Hopefully he delivers at least tomorrow, but I'm unsure of the way he's been playing this final. Though that 5 minute blitz in the 3rd was a small positive to take out of the game. But until I see a larger sample out of him, that still means little at this point. He needs to not only step up in game 4 but dominate.

GrapeApe
06-09-2016, 09:55 PM
Curry is a poor defender but he's actually decent within the Warriors' scheme. I wouldn't necessarily say they "hide" him, but their defensive system is designed for him to be disruptive in the passing lanes rather than being a man-defender. They normally do a good job with their switches and rotations, but in game 3 they were disjointed and a step slow. Curry plays his defensive role pretty well when everyone is in sync. I think the Warriors will play much better on that end in game 4.

SamuraiSWISH
06-09-2016, 10:01 PM
He actually was good on the ball in game 1. Game 3 he got lit up. Overall individually his below average. The players and versatile perimeter on ball defenders around him plus the scheme hide him or make him adequate enough.

Smoke117
06-09-2016, 10:08 PM
He doesn't suck at defense...but he's playing a position that is customarily weak as far as defense in general...For every Payton, Kidd, Paul, Clyde Frazier there's many, many guards that truly are shitty defenders. Curry is more an above average defensive player. Considering how few high impact defenders there have been at that position, he does get a lot of nonsensical flack.

SamuraiSWISH
06-09-2016, 10:12 PM
He's not say a complete liability on that end like say, fellow two time MVP, Steve Nash. Whose only redeeming trait was his ability to draw and take charges. Having a quality defender at the PG position like GP, Stockton, Kidd can allow a team to completely disrupt another team's offensive flow.

gigantes
06-10-2016, 12:49 AM
I think there comes a point where the defense has to get a little credit. There's a huge difference between regular season basketball and what you see in the post-season.

Before the Cavs were completely exhausted playing a 6-man rotation, Curry was incredibly underwhelming in last year's Finals. At this same point last year, after Game 3, Curry was averaging 24 points on 39/32/92 splits and was averaging over 5 turnovers a game.

It's not like he was sucking at the end of the OKC series either and that has carried over. He had three straight 30+ point games to close them out.

It could be that the Cavs, when given time to game-plan for Curry (ie the playoffs), put together a really challenging look that takes him out of rhythm.

It could still be a long series and I expect he'll have his moments before it is over, but it isn't just about "what's wrong with Steph." This is now a trend of him struggling to get a rhythm in the playoffs against this team.
cool. it only took 12 posts before a smart, mature comment occurred. :eek:

warriorfan
06-10-2016, 01:18 AM
I think there comes a point where the defense has to get a little credit. There's a huge difference between regular season basketball and what you see in the post-season.

Before the Cavs were completely exhausted playing a 6-man rotation, Curry was incredibly underwhelming in last year's Finals. At this same point last year, after Game 3, Curry was averaging 24 points on 39/32/92 splits and was averaging over 5 turnovers a game.

It's not like he was sucking at the end of the OKC series either and that has carried over. He had three straight 30+ point games to close them out.

It could be that the Cavs, when given time to game-plan for Curry (ie the playoffs), put together a really challenging look that takes him out of rhythm.

It could still be a long series and I expect he'll have his moments before it is over, but it isn't just about "what's wrong with Steph." This is now a trend of him struggling to get a rhythm in the playoffs against this team.

Curry was in rhythm for last year's finals

Curry dropped 26/6/6 on 60% TS on the Cavs last finals while they were blitzing him from 30 feet out

This year he has been battling an MCL injury all playoffs

You are acting like he has averaged under 20 points while completely healthy while in single coverage...like someone by the name of Klay Thompson...

sportjames23
06-10-2016, 01:20 AM
lol its funny how guys grow balls when they play in front of their home crowd. lol



LeBron looked like sheep sh$t in shallow water when he was in the bay


That's what kills me about this generation of players.

Yeah, we know road teams have to overcome a hostile crowd and home cooking from the refs, but that's what Legends thrive on. MJ loved playing on the road. Bird loved going into enemy territory. Magic loved showing up a team on its own court.

Hell, I got more joy in seeing my team win on the road than at home. You're supposed to win at home, especially if you're a championship contender. But going on the road and winning on the opposing team's home turf drives a stake in their hearts.

Most of my all time favorite MJ era Bulls games took place on the road: The Shot vs CLE 1989, 69 pts vs CLE 1990, The Shot II vs CLE 1993, Gm 5 ECF vs NY 1993, Double Nickel Game 1995, Flu Game NBA Finals 1997.

The only players of today with that mentality are either retired (Kobe), damn near or should be retired (Duncan, Garnett, Pierce, Dirk) or unpredictable (GOATbrook).

LAZERUSS
06-10-2016, 01:45 AM
Curry was in rhythm for last year's finals

Curry dropped 26/6/6 on 60% TS on the Cavs last finals while they were blitzing him from 30 feet out

This year he has been battling an MCL injury all playoffs

You are acting like he has averaged under 20 points while completely healthy while in single coverage...like someone by the name of Klay Thompson...

A GRADE 1 MCL sprain...which can take from 1-3 weeks to recover from. Most athletes would have continued to play with it. Glass took longer than the standard time to return. And then has had the luxury of several days off between games since.

If anything, Mild Knee Bruise Curry is probably the healthiest, and most certainly, the most rested starter in these Finals.

Great players, like Wilt, McHale, Bird, et al, not only PLAYED with FAR greater injuries, they generally played WELL, if not BRILLIANTLY with them.

BTW, Chamberlain played every minute of a seven game series with a tear in his calf muscle...which usually requires crutches for a couple of weeks, and anywhere from 4-6 weeks to fully recover from. And all he did in that series, and against Russell BTW, was to average a 22-25-7.

Oh, and how about Wilt dominating a clinching game five of the '72 Finals with a FRACTURED wrist (to go along with a sprained wrist on his other hand)...with a 24 point, 29 rebound, 8 block game?

I wonder how a broken hand, and a sprained wrist would affect GAC?

GrapeApe
06-10-2016, 04:58 AM
Curry was in rhythm for last year's finals

Curry dropped 26/6/6 on 60% TS on the Cavs last finals while they were blitzing him from 30 feet out

This year he has been battling an MCL injury all playoffs

You are acting like he has averaged under 20 points while completely healthy while in single coverage...like someone by the name of Klay Thompson...

The MCL sprain was over a month ago. He's past the time table for recovery, and if anything the Warriors were extra careful to not rush him back and give it plenty of time time to heal. He's struggling right now, plain and simple. There could be a lingering psychological issue related to the injury (not uncommon), but physically he's fine.

Tarik One
06-10-2016, 10:20 AM
The Cavs made Steph work in this past game. They'd have whoever he was on run screens and stuff instead of letting Steph guard someone who was just chilling in the corner. Shump ran 8 screens in game 3 with Steph on him, compared to just 4 in the previous 2 combined.

Thought that was interesting. Most of the success they had in game 3 is probably due to intensity, but they definitely threw some different stuff at GS.

FireDavidKahn
06-10-2016, 11:59 AM
Curry was in rhythm for last year's finals

Curry dropped 26/6/6 on 60% TS on the Cavs last finals while they were blitzing him from 30 feet out

This year he has been battling an MCL injury all playoffs

You are acting like he has averaged under 20 points while completely healthy while in single coverage...like someone by the name of Klay Thompson...
:sleeping

This is the Finals. If you are playing then you have no excuses.

Boogey
06-10-2016, 02:23 PM
If your watching ESPN and analysts talk about what's going, you'd see that they're pretty much creatures of the moment. The fukked up thing is, curry is going to have the last laugh.

HenryGarfunkle
06-10-2016, 02:34 PM
If your watching ESPN and analysts talk about what's going, you'd see that they're pretty much creatures of the moment. The fukked up thing is, curry is going to have the last laugh.
No, but the Warriors might. There's nothing funny about 0/22... sure, he'll enjoy another year where's he carried to a champiosnhip... rings are always good. But he himself can't be too happy about his individual play. Playing like shit and getting carried to rings has to effect his ego. I think even he bought into his own hype, so now he's getting a painful reality check - one where he's not even the best on his own team when it matters. And compared to guys like LeBron? Not even in the same stratosphere.

Kinda makes all that dancing nonsense in the regular season look cringeworthy. :hammerhead: :facepalm