Jordan stans this is your last year at number 1

[warriorfan]

Curry's MCL is healing as this post is being typed

Once he is healed next season will be even greater than this years

Enjoy your time while it lasts

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GO68fi0o3ig/T34PPlGDk_I/AAAAAAAAAJ0/xsRrFYZcwpQ/s1600/hour-glass-move2.gif

[Captvic]

It's gone be a party.

https://giant.gfycat.com/HelpfulWideeyedAnole.gif

[Mr Feeny]

Op is right. Curry moving into the elite bracket knocks Kobe down even FURTHER :lol

[3ball]

Enjoy your time while it lasts


You're still pining about the lower-competition regular season?... That's like Fredette pining about the good ol' college days.

Curry has never been great in the playoffs.. fact... :confusedshrug: :banana: :rockon: :oldlol:

So keep dreaming - he's nowhere near the goat

[Mr Feeny]

You're still pining about the lower-competition regular season?... That's like Fredette pining about the good ol' college days.

Curry has never been great in the playoffs.. fact... :confusedshrug: :banana: :rockon: :oldlol:

So keep dreaming - he's nowhere near the goat

He's not a Jordan fan. He's a Kobe fan boy who realize king Curry is 10 times better than any version of his hero and is about to surpass his hero on the all time list. So he's trying to jump on curry's bandwagon:lol
:roll:

[Bless Mathews]

Op is a clown.

6/6 with 6 finals MVP is > 2/2 with no finals MVP

What is wrong with you fucc boy??

You FUCCIN clown boy.

All that frisco dicc got you dumb.

[Mr Feeny]

Op is a clown.

6/6 with 6 finals MVP is > 2/2 with no finals MVP

What is wrong with you fucc boy??

You FUCCIN clown boy.

All that frisco dicc got you dumb.

Kobe fanboy. His hero has 1 mvp in 20 years. What do you expect :applause:

[Gileraracer]

Curry is a great guy, but let's be real, Jordan never had 16ppg in a PO series

[Spurs m8]

This finals series has been another massive L for Curry fans in the race that never really was.

Curry is a regular season hero.

He is pathetic.

[AirFederer]

Not hating on Curry but OP:
0 FMVP votes
14 ppg in the Finals

1 ring as of now.

Yeah :facepalm

https://media.giphy.com/media/sS4MsUr5PkdO0/giphy.gif

[ShawkFactory]

Poor guy

[rodman91]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/eda3c99e6ff29890c33d51a9eaf1cbf3/tumblr_mj0kuevY5W1rg8ypco1_250.gif

[k0kakw0rld]

Op is a clown.

6/6 with 6 finals MVP is > 2/2 with no finals MVP

What is wrong with you fucc boy??

You FUCCIN clown boy.

All that frisco dicc got you dumb.
Stop giving him attention then, thats all he wants..

[Steven Kerry]

Curry is amazing, but we all know he isn't touching Jordan.

[k0kakw0rld]

Curry is amazing, but we all know he isn't touching Jordan.
And if you know anything about basketball he is not touching LeBron either.

[SwayDizzle]

And if you know anything about basketball he is not touching LeBron either.
and if you know anything about bball, lebron is not touching kobe either

[Kingwillball]

and if you know anything about bball, lebron is not touching kobe either

He already passed Kobe Nikka..

[warriorfan]

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/281/a19/233/resized/saw-meme-generator-begin-tic-toc-ab7e9f.jpg

[diamenz]

Curry's MCL is healing as this post is being typed

Once he is healed next season will be even greater than this years

Enjoy your time while it lasts

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GO68fi0o3ig/T34PPlGDk_I/AAAAAAAAAJ0/xsRrFYZcwpQ/s1600/hour-glass-move2.gif

no. there's more to basketball than just threes and layups.

[warriorfan]

no. there's more to basketball than just threes and layups.

if you think that is currys game there is not much to your bball iq

have fun watching come fly with me in your basement as curry is crowned the new king

:roll:

[bond10]

LOL, one good season with a lackluster finals performance somehow threatens 6 straight championships and 8-10 years of straight dominance??? You need to be smacked.

[warriorfan]

LOL, one good season with a lackluster finals performance somehow threatens 6 straight championships and 8-10 years of straight dominance??? You need to be smacked.

Yeah...Curry has had one good season

:roll: :roll: :roll:

jordan stans getting SHOOK

[bond10]

Yeah...Curry has had one good season

:roll: :roll: :roll:

jordan stans getting SHOOK

he's about to let a bench player win fmvp again....b-b-b-b-but curry is top 10 :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[warriorfan]

he's about to let a bench player win fmvp again....b-b-b-b-but curry is top 10 :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

the MCL is healing

wait till next season

until then enjoy it while it lasts

:cheers:

[Asukal]

the MCL is healing

wait till next season

until then enjoy it while it lasts

:cheers:

Never. Ever. Go full retard OP. :no:

[MP.Trey]

Have you even watched these last two Finals series? :roll:

It doesn't matter if he's 100% healthy or not. He shrinks on the biggest stage.

[warriorfan]

Have you even watched these last two Finals series? :roll:

It doesn't matter if he's 100% healthy or not. He shrinks on the biggest stage.

Curry shrank last years Finals?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

stans be getting SHOOK

[MP.Trey]

Curry shrank last years Finals?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

stans be getting SHOOK
There's a reason the MVP didn't get a single FMVP vote. And it's because he let his teammates do the heavy lifiting and only could manage to score when he was up or down 20, just like this year. Ultimate frontunner.

[diamenz]

if you think that is currys game there is not much to your bball iq

have fun watching come fly with me in your basement as curry is crowned the new king

:roll:

actually i'm a curry fan as well, i'm not a 3ball type. his performance this series has been fckn disappointing.

[warriorfan]

There's a reason the MVP didn't get a single FMVP vote. And it's because he let his teammates do the heavy lifiting and only could manage to score when he was up or down 20, just like this year. Ultimate frontunner.

26/6/6 on 60 TS% while facing double teams all series

now i know why you take espn and bleacher reports word for gospel

because u dont know shit about basketball

[3ball]

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Jordan was a far better jumpshooter than Curry from midrange and inside 20 feet, on 6 times the volume:



Links to NBA.com "midrange %" stats (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)



JORDAN 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):. 48.9%, 1202 fga

S Curry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 41.1%,. 285 fga
S Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season):.. 42.5%,. 200 fga



........................MJ 1997 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)...................Cur ry 2015 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)............ Curry 2016 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/) <--- link to nba.com data

5-9 ft.......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 48.6%, 72 fga

10-14 ft....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 50.9%, 57 fga

15-19 ft....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 37.3%, 102 fga



Interestingly, Curry's goat 3-point shooting and Jordan's goat midrange shooting isn't needed to be a top scorer in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) and 3-point, yet they're still top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim.

MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had the goat midrange efficiency shown above, which would put him in Curry's category as a goat shooter, and gave him a similarly massive advantage over the aforementioned non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.
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[diamenz]

26/6/6 on 60 TS% while facing double teams all series

now i know why you take espn and bleacher reports word for gospel

because u dont know shit about basketball

you're right i suppose, his performances just haven't been up to par with what we're used to seeing from him. i wanna see him go ham.

your jordan comparisons are ridic though, especially at this point.

[bukowski81]

26/6/6 on 60 TS% while facing double teams all series

now i know why you take espn and bleacher reports word for gospel

because u dont know shit about basketball

Good numbers, but you are delusional if you think thats a threat to Jordan

[warriorfan]

Good numbers, but you are delusional if you think thats a threat to Jordan

if you are autistic and just look at numbers in black and white comparisons

true basketball minds know there is much more context behind the statistics that tell the whole story

you are going to need better arguments than this

[3ball]

.
Jordan was involved in MORE possessions for his team (usage), while producing more per-possession (ORtg) - he simply DID MORE:



1991 vs. 2016:



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 32.9% Usage.. 125 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:. 32.6% Usage.. 125 ORtg



Career



JORDAN REG SEASON:. 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 REG SEASON:. 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg

JORDAN PLAYOFFS:. 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
CURRY4 PLAYOFFS:. 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg


Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (per possession efficiency)... :confusedshrug:
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[3ball]

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Jordan's 1991 was on another level:



Per 100 Possessions

JORDAN 1991 RS:. 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..4 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48
CURRY 4 2016 RS:. 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..4 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48
JORDAN 1991 PO:. 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48


Jordan produced more points-per-possession (ORtg) and Player Efficiency Rating, even though Curry's efficiency was boosted by carrying a smaller load: Jordan produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with less turnovers, while also carrying a larger load on defense.. Jordan is FAR better than Curry's fragile ass.

Ultimately, Jordan achieved the highest honor (winning championship and FMVP), while carrying a bigger load on both ends at higher efficiency per possession - that covers all the bases.
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[3ball]

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-30-2015/jkrR_v.gif


Curry spaces the floor



Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see Isiah Thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.

Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.

Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.

[3ball]

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Summary of Jordan and Curry's offense:


Jordan made up for his inferior 3-point efficiency compared to Curry with far superior midrange (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31) efficiency, and far less turnovers.. These things gave him superior per possession efficiency (ortg), which is more important than Curry's shooting efficiency - shooting efficiency FALLS UNDER THE UMBRELLA of per-possession efficiency.

Jordan's higher efficiency is remarkable considering he carried a bigger load: he produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with far less turnovers, while also carrying a bigger load on defense.

Jordan had higher efficiency per possession and carried a bigger load even though Curry enjoys an offense-friendly era due to spacing and hands-off defense - Curry achieves his stats with teammates spacing the floor (Warriors attempt 30 threes per game), while MJ achieved his stats without teammates spacing the floor (Bulls attempted 5 threes per game in 1991).. Obviously, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing and hands-off (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438473&postcount=10) defense.

Consider that Lebron's 3-point percentage is 31.9% in playoffs, and his midrange percentage is below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389794&postcount=17).. Westbrook, Wade, Derozan, & Butler have similarly (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) poor jumpshot efficiency, yet they remain top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows easier rim access.. MJ would get the same rim access, except he could also live off his midrange jumpshot, since it's efficiency was better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31), and since the today's spacing forces defenses to give up midrange.
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[MP.Trey]

if you are autistic and just look at numbers in black and white comparisons

true basketball minds know there is much more context behind the statistics that tell the whole story

you are going to need better arguments than this
Exactly what I was thinking. You need to look at the context of those numbers and you'll realize Curry really had a minimal output compared to what we usually see from him, much less from MJ, and everybody saw it, Curry was not playing like the best player on the court last year and he sure as hell isn't now.

[warriorfan]

Exactly what I was thinking. You need to look at the context of those numbers and you'll realize Curry really had a minimal output compared to what we usually see from him, much less from MJ, and everybody saw it, Curry was not playing like the best player on the court last year and he sure as hell isn't now.

You dont know shit about basketball

It's obvious you are trolling now

Welcome to ignore

P.S. the MCL is healing, the 3 peat is coming

tick tock

[3ball]

tick tock


This was Curry's first REGULAR season as the NBA's best offensive player (9 more in a row to match Jordan) - and he's NEVER been the best offensive player in the playoffs like Jordan was every... single... year... :facepalm

Jordan is the only all-time great to lead his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career, and he did it by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) (let that sink in).. And don't forget - Jordan led the Bulls in passing too - he led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49).

Accordingly, his goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the goat performance and biggest overall burden ever - Curry's performance is a joke by comparison.. :confusedshrug:

[kamil]

He already passed Kobe Nikka..

When did that happen?

[bukowski81]

if you are autistic and just look at numbers in black and white comparisons

true basketball minds know there is much more context behind the statistics that tell the whole story

you are going to need better arguments than this

Please enlighten us in what context is Curry better than MJ

[Keno]

I agree with op, a 3rd finals MVP and ring for Lebron to add to the goat resume. Jordan is shaking in his boots hoping gsw wins.

[3ball]

:rolleyes:

[3ball]

Lebron's stats vs. MJ


MJ scored 5.5 more ppg in the playoffs with better efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg) and clutch (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438582&postcount=24) - these things control the game better than Lebron's 2.5 def rebound edge (with less offensive rebounds) and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

There's never been a #1 option that scored 5.5 more on better efficiency that wasn't considered the far better player.

The scoring gap is even bigger than people realize - Lebron has many series and even entire playoff runs where he isn't the team's leading scorer.. Otoh, MJ is the only all-time great to lead his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career, and he did it by an average of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) (let that sink in).. MJ also led his team in passing, just like Lebron - he led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49), so he assisted on the highest proportion of teammate field goals.

Jordan's goat scoring load, team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the goat performance and biggest load ever carried.





Lebron gets great spacing


Today's era is offense-friendly due to the spacing - Lebron and Curry achieve their stats with teammates spacing the floor (their respective teams attempt 30 threes per game), while MJ achieved his stats without teammates spacing the floor (the Bulls took 5 threes per game in 1991).. Obviously, Jordan's stats would explode with today's spacing and hands-off (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438473&postcount=10) defense.

Consider that Lebron's 3-point percentage is 31.9% in playoffs, and his midrange percentage is below 40% for 10 of 13 seasons (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389794&postcount=17).. Westbrook, Wade, Derozan, & Butler have similarly (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389778&postcount=41) poor jumpshot efficiency, yet they remain top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows easier rim access.. MJ would get the same rim access, except he could also live off his midrange jumpshot, since it's efficiency was better than Curry's (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12438405&postcount=31), and since the today's spacing forces defenses to give up midrange.







Lebron can't shoot and holds/pounds the ball forever


In addition to a poor jumpshot, the biggest problem with Lebron's game is that he needs an excessive time of possession to get his stats - he and Harden are the only non-point guards in the top 50 (http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1) for time of possession.. In the 2015 Finals, Lebron scored 35.8 ppg on 33 shots by holding the ball for an insane 12.0 minutes (http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1) time of possession, which was 50% higher than the RS leader John Wall's 8.2 minutes (http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1).

Ultimately, Lebron is 2/7 because his ball-dominant style from the forward position invariably fosters inferior teamwork and brand of basketball than MJ's quick-decision, more off-ball repertoire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXErOmq3owg&t=0m52s).

Specifically, Lebron lowers his teammates' APG (playmaking), and increases their assisted rate (play-finishing). Here's the APG and assisted rate of key teammates, with and without Lebron:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11709473&postcount=1
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[hateraid]

Lol, Jordan stans are the most sensitive and easiest to antagonize. Like fish in a barrel, fish who create their own barrel

[SamuraiSWISH]

Right.

This is Curry'a most iconic moment in the championship series

http://cdn.niketalk.com/9/9c/9c85bba0_Ckhq77cWEAA9RsI.jpeg

[Remix]

Lol, Jordan stans are the most sensitive and easiest to antagonize. Like fish in a barrel, fish who create their own barrel
Agreeable. Really have no idea why people spend so much time defending their favorite player when realistically Curry is nowhere near him lol

[livinglegend]

Agreeable. Really have no idea why people spend so much time defending their favorite player when realistically Curry is nowhere near him lol

They need to fill the huge empty space in their lives.
They got nothing better to do.

[TomCat]

I usually agree with the OP, but this one is farfetched.

[Mr Feeny]

They need to fill the huge empty space in their lives.
They got nothing better to do.

Tbf that huge empty space is your mother's loose ******.

[warriorfan]

Right.

This is Curry'a most iconic moment in the championship series

http://cdn.niketalk.com/9/9c/9c85bba0_Ckhq77cWEAA9RsI.jpeg

you are shook

tick tock

tick tock

[FKAri]

Right.

This is Curry'a most iconic moment in the championship series

http://cdn.niketalk.com/9/9c/9c85bba0_Ckhq77cWEAA9RsI.jpeg



Wait I think I found him... nvm it's Igoudala.

[warriorfan]

Wait I think I found him... nvm it's Igoudala.

this is the first time u have ever seen a beach :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wait I think I found him... nvm it's Igoudala.
:oldlol:

[HighFlyer23]

Lol rookie Jordan is better than the best version of that prebupescent girl Curry

Jordan with a broken foot is superior

[sportjames23]

Wait I think I found him... nvm it's Igoudala.

Oh shit :lol

[sportjames23]

Lol, Jordan stans are the most sensitive and easiest to antagonize. Like fish in a barrel, fish who create their own barrel

LOL you're the #1 fggt on this board. We only keep you around to laugh at your weak ass trolling.

Now, go make us some sammiches, bitch.

[GrapeApe]

Curry is nowhere near Jordan as a player or in terms of overall resume. Not even close. Even if he wins a title and FMVP this season he'll still be trailing by 4 titles, 5 FMVP's, 3 MVP's, 9 scoring titles, and double digit all-NBA and all-defense selections, not to mention Curry having significantly worse career numbers.

[HenryGarfunkle]

Cringeworthy plea for attention

[Spurs m8]

Just remembered how pathetic Curry is....OP is so shook hahahaha

Such a garbage player when it actually matters.